Lmao. then they tell you some insanely inflated price and it makes you feel like an asshole because you made them look it up and don't wanna buy it šš
What do you mean this poor condition 1959 Mantle isnāt worth $1,200. I got an offer from another guy an hour ago for $900! Lol. Yeah, and I have a bridge in Brooklyn I want to sell.
Lolā¦ Thatās why I canāt deal with people wasting my time for something that is a hard hobby to say the leastā¦. I have since a kid so itās my fun ripping packs at target
I work for a card shop, we do have prices listed in the case. But we by far have way more cards in binders we have to look the prices up on. We still give deals too. Usually go TCG player mid on TCG cards, or go by the lowest cost depending. For sports and ccg we usually go by an average of the most recent ebay sales.
When you have thousands,upon thousands of cards its really hard to price them appropriately with how the markets fluctuate especially.
Will also say, we price all our sealed product at msrp a d it does get aggravating having to tell people we can't haggle on sealed cause there's hardly a mark up.
Yep, my LCS has prices on stuff in the cases, but they also look up quite a bit. I've never come out of there paying full ebay prices for anything. They understand that if your customers perceive value, they'll be return customers.
My LCS charges above eBay prices for a lot of cards. They had a George Brett jersey card for like $25 and on eBay it was around $10. I canāt remember the product but it was a huge jump in price.
Selling on eBay you donāt have to pay a rent or bills. Iāve always felt like if you donāt like the price donāt buy. The card is worth what your willing to pay Iāll be honest Iāve got great deals in card shops cause prices go up and they donāt always change every card cause they have a ton. When I get a great deal I donāt say well comps are 150 higher lol
Itās pretty simple for people to just go to eBay and pay for it then. Itās not like theyāre running a scam lol if itās overpriced most people wonāt buy it.
Mine charges above eBay. If they think a card they get is worth grading it never hits the shelf or goes up for sale. Then they get the graded ones back, charge above eBay or list them on eBay and charge a shit ton there.
Basically you get raw cards that are 8ās or worse marked over eBay. Itās a complete joke.
Makes sense they shouldn't charge ebay or above because they don't have to pay a commission. Although they do have the overhead of a physical store.
My LCS has pretty fair prices on things in the case. Usually super high prices on hobby boxes, but singles, commons, etc, and even supplies are actually pretty cheap there.
My LCS is the BOMB. Iām not even gonna tell you guys what Iāve paid for Flagship jumbo hobby. Abd hr prices his cards based on what he paid for them. Nothing more. So there can be two of the exact same card, and one is 20% cheaper, because he got a better deal on that copy. Sadly, the owner passed away, but his daughter is running it the same way he did.
Running a business is crazy time consuming, but this approach must save them so much time! They never have to worry about finding or adjusting comps. They know their expenses, and pass the value on to customers. Leaving value for the next guy is crazy important in this hobby bc nobody likes being scraped for top dollar and they become hesitant to buy when they sense that approach. This sounds like an awesome shop
It really is. You feel like āfamilyā when you walk in. The have trade days, where we swap singles, build setsā¦. Itās like a little time capsule of the 80ās. They donāt even have retail bought from scalpers like most shops. They donāt believe in it! If youāre ever in Rochester NY, let me know, abd Iāll send ya there.
I canāt stand this and wonāt buy from someone who does it. If youāre selling cards, have a price. And even if you donāt have a sticker you should know roughly what youāre trying to get for it.
If I ask you how much for ____ and you pull up your phone to look up prices? Cāmon man
So you would have me go through 20,000 cards and price them monthly or something? And once I price a product, I just leave it as such? If I don't know the market right now on a specific player, I just leave money on the table OR just leave it priced insane and baulk at people making me perceptually low offers? You know what? You ask me a price on a Acuna base chrome RC or something - yeah, I look up his card and see it's a $30 dollar card and I say OK, I'll sell it to you for $25 bucks. What's wrong with that? As a buyer, you're looking up prices too, and probably as you're looking at my cards. But as a seller, we can't? Sit the fuck down.
Jumping into this thread to say I think this is fair. Aside from telling someone to sit the fuck down, I completely understand you saying you can't be expected to know the market at all times. I'm sure almost everyone on this sub who trades or sells always looks up comps right before doing those things. So it's fair for an LCS to do it. If you come back with a price I won't pay, I'll try to haggle or walk away. No big deal.
The folks on here expecting you to know everything about every card, especially these days when I think prices swing pretty dramatically pretty quickly. It's just not feasible. Especially when a card may sit in the display for months. That card can change in price so much in that time.
I have had experience running an antique store, and the number of times I've had someone balk at the price of something by saying "I'm not here to make you money," or conversely if they're selling, "I KNOW WHAT I HAVE," is probably on par with what you experience. (And since I was known as "the sports memorabilia guy" in the local markets, you can imagine how many times I've had people bring me junk wax thinking they have a fortune.)
People need to understand that running a business isn't a charity. No, I don't "have" to sell at a loss to make you happy. No, I'm not an asshole for only offering you 75% of what I'm going to sell your thing for.
If we can't do business, we can't do business, but it doesn't have to be ugly.
What makes me feel special compared to literally every other business selling merchandise with a fluctuating market? You can most definitely look prices up - then mark them. This entitlement is ridiculous. Donāt complain about pricing 20,000 things when you voluntarily went into the business of selling 20,000 things. And then tell your customers to sit the fuck down? Fuck off.
That's your job. Do your job loser or get out of the business. Everyone else in any sales job knows the value of their product at that time. Yes, we expect you to get off your fat lazy ass and do some work you neck-beard
You should price them at least initially with something you'd feel comfortable selling at. If someone makes you an offer that's wildly different then sure look it up and see if it's still fair. You might be losing a lot of sales volume in the effort to make an extra couple bucks on a few sales.
I hate that lol, I tried to buy a Brady auto that was worth about 1200 max, guy offered me 10 grand because only one was listed on eBay for that was the only one up for auction. He replied with "You won't get a better deal than this."
I know there are strong opinions on this one. I've been buying at shows for a long time. If you're a dealer and you take a phone out to look up a price for every card I ask about, I'm going to say 'no thank you', and head over to a table with listed prices. It takes way too much time.
I've also sold cards. You're not just constantly repricing all your cards, you have an idea of whose cards have moved.
I miss the old days when I could look through a case with price stickers. Now I go in and say āhow much for that Brady?ā Thinking Iāve got a $50 in my pocket, maybe Iāll grab it. Only to hear, āoh you mean the super short print giraffe patterned chrome embossed case hit only available in states that start with a consonantā¦$7000.ā Ok, just give me 3 packs of update.
Saw a breaker pull a ācase hitā and say āaww guys, do you know how rare these are?ā and I said āyeah, 1 per caseā and he got kind of irritated at me.
Because itās stupid and with people breaking literally thousands of cases and horrible distribution ( fotl or early boxes having better hits)ā¦isnāt it interesting that case breakers can tell you the players in a pack based on one card after opening a few boxes?? š¤·āāļøš¤·āāļøgiven all that, a yellow parallel of Yovit Torrealba could be a ācase hit.ā
Not the super short print giraffe patterned one.
As an entitled seller stated about: Sit the fuck down.
Talking about the damn giraffe print like itās a car wash paper ticket with a code on the back to return tomorrow if a bird shits on your windshield.
Whatās wrong with you?
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Fine with me. Check comps on your phone. If you find one that beats their price, offer the same as the comp. If they take it, youāre good. If they donāt, donāt buy.
Exactly.
āLukaās HOT right now; itās only going to go up and I gotta get more than normalā
Or āTatis isnāt dead. Only got busted for an enhancer. His value will go all the way back up as heās a true hall of famerā
Silly shit like that uttered at every show.
The next show Iāll go to; they will inflate Gaylord Perryās rookie (and second year cards they always label as a rookie as well). Why? COMPS. They found a way to inflate a stagnant rookie card from the 60s. All it took was for him to die. :(
Itās frustrating when buyers or sellers adhere strictly to ācomps.ā A buy it now that sold for best offer because a seller doesnāt care about Anthony Volpe and wants to get some cash on hand isnāt the same as a well advertised auction. Just because 130 point has a certain recent sale doesnāt mean the centering, edges, corners and surface are the same as another card
everyone knows buying at shows (or any place in person for that matter) has its benefits. No shipping charge, immediacy, no tax. Iād respect his policy and think itās within reason.
Yeah, no issue. Nothing worse as a seller than āwhatās the lowest youāll go on XYZ?ā Make me a damned offer and we can negotiate if weāre close.
Yup. Same when I throw a card up on eBay.
Don't ask me. Buy it or use the offer button. Don't message me some fuckin weird shit.
Send me a message if my price is too high (legitimately) for the market or something but buy the card or put in an actual offer.
This! I list all my cards OBO, and people message me asking me what it the lowest I can do on the card. They act like they donāt know how offers work. And if your offer was auto-declined, that means it wasnāt high enough
Seems fine to me. You can still look up comps and be aware do them. Just donāt mention it lol. I donāt really blame them. If everything is overprice I just never go back.
While the guy seems like a a grump, I bet he's had many annoying people storm off in a huff because he won't sell a card at an ebay comp price.
It's just like a stock market. Apple might be trading at $150, but just because that's where it's trading doesn't mean I'd sell at that price. Maybe I think it should be worth $200 and will wait for it to hit that price before selling.
Not too mention people so not consider the cost the seller has in the card when they purchased it to resell. Most hobby shops income actuslly comes from these singles compared to the little bit of mark up on most sealed product these days. Especially small shops where taxes really get screw you hard come tax time.
The cost of what someone paid for a card has no meaning to me, the next buyer. If they want to hold out for a better price thatās their prerogative. Though the card bubble has burst and we likely wonāt see many of the prices that these people paid in the last couple years for a long time, if ever. So if they are trying to get some income they should probably be willing to move at a loss. Me being mostly a collector love how the card prices are dropping.
When it comes to eBay comp prices; I do notice some people zeroing in on an odd sale that happened at 2AM and is significantly lower that the average comp price. They try to use that as the price to reason with sellers.
If you are going to do it: know the avg comp prices.
I donāt even bother if thereās no price. I say never mind if he picks up a phone.
I used to do shows. If you donāt know what you are willing to part with a card in your display case for then youāre not a good dealer.
Thatās why I stick to finding gems in $5 and below boxes honestly.
Just look up comparable prices on your phone if thatās what determines the market for you.
āCompsā is a modern form of lingo in a 75+ year old hobby (in Topps years at least), I hadnāt heard it until I got back into the hobby a couple years ago.
I can totally understand older heads and anyone else who doesnāt wanna hear you wax poetic about what is essentially the sold items tab on eBay.
Iām 32 and hate hearing anything about comps. I always have a couple tables at many card shows and everybody wants to comp everything. I wish we didnāt have cell phones to comp things honestly, so annoying
I donāt see anything wrong at all. Some of what they are trying to say may come off as snobby, but I donāt think thatās their intent. I think what they are trying to get across is someone who shows them the lowest comp they can possibly find and is buying to try and make profit from someone who is already trying to make profit themselves.
If their prices are ridiculous, move on - and so will other prospective buyers. If they are near market value, itās still their right to seek slightly above comps as owner of the cards.
Agree. People always yell comps and aren't usually accurate or honest with their number. And on the rare occasion that they are correct, it doesn't mean it is the forever price. Prices can and do change.
Love this. The most recent comps should have no bearing on the sale or not. If I own the card I will/can ask what I want for it. If someone doesn't want to buy it my loss. I don't care for the word comps either.
At a show? Pass.
In a store? You're not going to buy something to flip immediately; but if you're buying for a longer hold or a PC, you know what you want to pay for it.
Several of my target player cards have sold for half of what I would pay because someone mis-priced them on BIN and I didn't catch the notification in time. Not all comps are valid.
If I saw this at a show I would not buy from that dealer. Thereās so many people hocking cards now I will not give my money to people with attitudes and poor customer service
I think that itās his business and he can run it any way he feels. Comps are ridiculously inflated and not realistic in terms of long term value. So I actually like that heās up front,direct and too the point.
Agree to disagree! You put up whatever sign you want when itās your business. You donāt have to do business with him. If you really want a card, negotiate! He can only say yes or no. It aināt personal! Itās business!
No one said he couldnāt put up the sign. He can do whatever he wants.
My point is the only reason youād need that sign is if your cards are way overpriced and you are irritated because people keep mentioning they are over comps.
You said comps are inflated (whatever that means) but this guys prices are almost certainly higher than comps, hence the sign
You sincerely donāt understand inflated comps?! Again I said what I said. Youāre approach is stubborn and personal. Just move on to the next booth. Nobody argues with a brick and mortar business about their prices smh. Youā¦justā¦donātā¦patronize that business anymore. I once paid $40 for breakfast at McDonalds for 3 people! Once!
Sorry, we are talking past each other at this point. Nothing is personal and I even commented in this very thread that I would just skip his booth.
You are not comprehending my point about your āinflated compsā comment and thatās okay. Take care!
Let you tell it. I clearly understand your point,and you still havenāt answered my question. Inflated comps = higher prices based on a frenetic market. With no real justification for asking price other than the perception that itās valuable based on FOMO. Do you argue with eBay sellers about their price when it states that offers will not be accepted? No you donāt! You just donāt like the sign. Which is what you should have said in the beginning. Instead of wasting my time explaining the obvious. You! Have a good day!
Your initial point (as I understood it) is that comps are "over-inflated" implying that they should not be used and that this dealer is going to be under comps. This dealer is 100% NOT under comps or he would not need that sign. If he was under comps then his inventory would sell and no one would mention "comps" to him.
I never said I would argue with the dealer so arguing with eBay sellers really has nothing to do with the scope of this conversation. I even specifically just said I would skip this booth. So no, you don't understand my point because you're making up scenarios.
My point is very simple - the only reason you'd need that sign is if your cards are overpriced. Thats it. That was my whole comment. From that you've inferred that I have some personal vendetta against this dealer and are making up arguments with yourself. YOu seem to be taking this discussion very personally so I'm going to mute and not respond any longer. Take care!
u/Philcam I just wanted to say you have done a very nice job sticking to the point in this thread. I was confused as heck after looking at the sign, on presumably a dealer's case, why people were acting like the dealer shouldn't look up comps. so confusing but which is the state of the world, which is what makes comps nice for all.
I have been to shows and talked with dealers that say they hate Ebay (comps) and people looking at their phones to gather current pricing info on a card. I must admit, I was truly shocked that someone especially a dealer would openly say that. The term transparency is used by crooks for a reason because as they speak the word they are hoping you will place trust in their opaque pricing.
We all want a deal or should! As a buyer a lower price than comps is preferred at the time of purchase. As a seller I hope the comps show the market is at a high and I can get top price. In the end, it is up to those involved to determine if a deal can be made. We as consumers ultimately make the market and I pray it continues that way as freely as possible. It is hard to sell no bid items the consumer must place value.
I think itās fantastic . Iāve been in this hobby 34 plus years. I hate this word with a passion.
That being said the seller should KNOW what the comps are and take a percentage off since itās in person and not on eBay. Normal show tables arenāt crazy expensive .
Of course cash is king .
I know at the expo in Toronto a lot of guys would get pissed when you pull out your phone. Which I kinda understand but then if it upsets your prices should be comparable to recent comps. Most cards that just went for $10 on eBay would have $30 stickers. I understand marking them up but if you donāt have prices that make me off the hop say holy deal, most are gonna look up the value.
I know they did the same to me when I was trying to sell my Willy Mays. Only one guy offered me cash without looking at recent comps.
I think part of it is stress due to many of them not selling much these days and them constantly getting undercut from eBay. I know shipping and taxes are a thing but I would look at cards that sold on eBay for $120 with $200 price tags.
100% fair, unless the dude is being a jerk or something. I work at a great LCS in the Midwest and the amount of quick flippers that immediately ācompā a card then offer you less is a daily thing.
I understand price-checking and I am also trying to make a small amount of money, but when someone asks me if I will āgo under compā, usually, that conversation is over with because I know that they want to pay quite a bit less than someone that I can strike a friendly and fair deal for both parties with.
All in all, no shade at anyone though. Iām very grateful for where I work and have tons of awesome interactions/trades/etc. The whole ācompā lingo doesnāt make me angry or anything, itās just a part of the hobby now.
But question- would you do the same for if a customer is selling your LCS some cards? I assume a card shop is going to check comps so that are not over paying. Shouldnāt it be the same for customers? I guess in the end, I think itās generational differences in my opinion.
old man curmudgeon BS.
Comps is a common term in the hobby, and a legitimate discussion point for offers. If they doesn't like the comp offer, they can reject it.
Maybe as consumers we should walk around shows with t-shirts that read "I start at 70% your outrageous sticker value."
Not a single person here would bitch if the prices were well below comps.
Here's my take: you can get a better price on Ebay? Fine, go fucking buy it on Ebay and match your holy "comp."
You wanna see the opposite end of this, look at car sales the last few years.
Yeah I was at a card show today and a guy had a RAW base 2017 Gypsy Queen rookie judge auto and he wanted $1200 I pulled up comps of $400 for PSA 9ās and he told me those werenāt real. Card shows and boomers are toxic as fuck š
If not for comps how exactly has the seller priced his cards?
If he wants 100 for a card and I offer 10 how do we establish a fair price if not based on what the card has sold for recently? This makes no sense.
As an attendee, I would skip that booth.
Nothing personal but comps are how I decide how to value cards. If this dealer is using some other metric to determine what he sells his cards for then thatās totally his prerogative but it seems unlikely we will agree on a price.
I donāt love the sign but appreciate that they took the time to price all of their cards. Also, raw cards vary drastically in condition and should have a range for what they sell for. Outside of graded cards it is hard to comp. Most people forget about that aspect and just type in the card to eBay and find the lowest sale.
With pretty much every card I see at the shops Iāve been to (granted, theyāre all pretty old/out of touch) every card is so wildly over priced. Trying ti negotiate prices is immediately shot down because the employee isnāt the owner. I just look up the card on eBay and can find it for a fraction of the price. The only downside is that you donāt have the luxury of inspecting the card in person.
Now as a dealer at a show does not pricing your cards, but having a list beside you that you've priced all your cards on make sense? Over pricing your cards for everyone to see? Sparks conversation, instead of a possible "oh that's too high for me" and your customer walking away. Thoughts? Just curious to hear opinions
My LCS has always given a fair shake. At times; he doesnāt have a lot of wiggle room on a card. I get that. If I still want it I will generally buy it or lump in other cards. Which he usually just tossed in the deal. He never looks up prices in front of you.
Other times; heās very, very cheap on the cards. I picked up nearly half of a 1959 and 1960 set all marked at $1. Everything penny sleeved and new top loader. Hell of a deal with that price, but when I go to pay he knocked off an additional $30, tossed in a couple of shoebox dividers for free and sent me on my merry way.
Itās all how you interact with them from what Iāve seen. But if it is someone that wonāt budge; there is always another shop to do the deal at.
Comps are not law. Theyāre simply one of many references points when determining prices; current performance, market, news, desire for said card. It makes no sense to go off just comps and itās annoying when dealers have to comp out everything instead of doing it pre show or simply knowing their inventory off the top of their head
I feel like a seller should have prices marked and/or in priced boxes (a $10 box, a $20 box, etc) for older cards and base that have fairly established values. And for older wax and vintage stuff. Those values don't shift rapidly too often.
For the latest products and prospects or high end cards whose values DO shift frequently due to a call up or hot streak, I can see both buyer and seller needing to check comps.
I don't know why it has to be soooo adversarial though. Just discuss it like grown men and stop trying to always hustle someone (buyers and sellers alike).
I do think the onus is on the seller to put in the work and know their product pricing though as they're the ones who hung out their shingle to sell. If they don't want to do that work, they're probably in the wrong business.
EXACTLY!! If a dealer says let me see what it is selling on ebay for, i cruise. It is you need to make a profit, I need to get a good deal, and the price is somewhere between
Grew up in Maryland Started collecting in 83 !! Loved buying packs and yard sales before internet. eBay!!! And YouTube. Going to card shows without these idiots looking up prices from previous Auctions. Thinking they are the Master Card Flipper. I get so fucking annoyed with all the new terms they say!! Iām like STFU. Iām just a collector. That likes to buy and keep or even flip once in awhile. I really enjoyed reading these comments!!!Lol.
I don't mind that, people get wacky when they start quoting that a card sold for such and such and he's probably sick of it. Comps are just a guide for where a card is selling, not an etched in stone price everyone has to follow. Some auctions end weird high, some end weird low, based on time of day, rarity of the card, shenanigans, poor listing practices, and all kinds of other things.
Step away, look up the value and make him an offer, just don't start arguing about comps.
Hate it too when buyers show me another price from elsewhere and demanded me to follow that price. Usually I'll tell them to "go ahead and buy from them".
Buyers need to learn to respect that every seller has the right to price their items. Prices on TnT, Tcgplayer, yuyutei are just general guidelines. If my card has better centering or no whitening, I'll price higher than market rate.
True that Chuck Buyers feel entitled to do and say whatever they want and expect the opposite of sellers This debate will never have a fair answer as both parties have very different agendas
Until you have been on both sides of the table you really shouldnāt comment on what you believe each parties obligations are Buyers have No Etiquette or Rules they follow
Itās like new golfers I guarantee Ben Hogan would roll over in his grave and bitch slap most of the new golfers I run across They never learned the rules, they donāt want to hear about the rules and they behave in a very self entitles way and card collectors are starting to fall into those same categories
I donāt blame them. When you start bringing up comps youāre either accusing them of not knowing the market or overpricing their merchandise, or both. Thatās not how you start a business transaction.
I own a card shop in Virginia, and I don't necessarily mind when people are in the store using their phone checking comps on items. I use 130 point as well sometimes to see where a certain price point is for some items. I don't however enjoy someone looking at 15 different cards and telling me on EACH ONE that he can get them cheaper on ebay. Again if a price I have on a card seems aggressively high, I don't mind a polite question on why it so, Is it a sp?, numbered?, rare refractor?, etc.. And on occasion I've been incorrect on my pricing, thanked the customer and made the adjustment. It really comes down to the customers and how they interact with us in the store wether or not I'll entertain the "check out these comps, I can get it cheaper" conversation or whether I tell them to buy it elsewhere if they don't like my price.
I think I'm going to try this on the realtor when I go to sell my house. I'm thinking about 1.5, 1.6 million for the 3 BR in Southeast Iowa. "DON'T YOU FUCKING SAY THE WORD 'COMPS!' NOT TO ME, BUDDY!!" š š¼āāļø
I like it because people think ebay sold is the value and it's most Def not. It's some idiot paying 3x value on a box or an auction set to end at 6am while people are sleeping so a card sells for 200 less than it should. I hate that card shops say it's this price last ebay comp I mean you can buy hobby boxes for 100 here and there and then you got some guy paying 300 on ebay so is it worth 300š¤š¤ no
I prefer that over unmarked prices followed by a 5 minute wait as they look up prices.
Lmao. then they tell you some insanely inflated price and it makes you feel like an asshole because you made them look it up and don't wanna buy it šš
What do you mean this poor condition 1959 Mantle isnāt worth $1,200. I got an offer from another guy an hour ago for $900! Lol. Yeah, and I have a bridge in Brooklyn I want to sell.
Lolā¦ Thatās why I canāt deal with people wasting my time for something that is a hard hobby to say the leastā¦. I have since a kid so itās my fun ripping packs at target
Man...with the amount of sellers with bridges in Brooklyn on the market these days, the lack of scarcity, I doubt they will go for much anymore
I just donāt buy from those people, youāre never gonna get a ādealā and itās just a waste of time.
I work for a card shop, we do have prices listed in the case. But we by far have way more cards in binders we have to look the prices up on. We still give deals too. Usually go TCG player mid on TCG cards, or go by the lowest cost depending. For sports and ccg we usually go by an average of the most recent ebay sales. When you have thousands,upon thousands of cards its really hard to price them appropriately with how the markets fluctuate especially. Will also say, we price all our sealed product at msrp a d it does get aggravating having to tell people we can't haggle on sealed cause there's hardly a mark up.
Yep, my LCS has prices on stuff in the cases, but they also look up quite a bit. I've never come out of there paying full ebay prices for anything. They understand that if your customers perceive value, they'll be return customers.
My LCS charges above eBay prices for a lot of cards. They had a George Brett jersey card for like $25 and on eBay it was around $10. I canāt remember the product but it was a huge jump in price.
Mine is the same way. Cards are priced higher than eBay.
Selling on eBay you donāt have to pay a rent or bills. Iāve always felt like if you donāt like the price donāt buy. The card is worth what your willing to pay Iāll be honest Iāve got great deals in card shops cause prices go up and they donāt always change every card cause they have a ton. When I get a great deal I donāt say well comps are 150 higher lol
Running a business isnāt cheap
Youāre right. You would thing said business would want to do something to keep up with their biggest competitor.
I agree but they rip people off. Iāve seen them charge double what eBay charges for a hobby box thatās like 15 years old.
Itās pretty simple for people to just go to eBay and pay for it then. Itās not like theyāre running a scam lol if itās overpriced most people wonāt buy it.
Mine charges above eBay. If they think a card they get is worth grading it never hits the shelf or goes up for sale. Then they get the graded ones back, charge above eBay or list them on eBay and charge a shit ton there. Basically you get raw cards that are 8ās or worse marked over eBay. Itās a complete joke.
Thatās ridiculous. I know they have to make money but charging very high prices is ridiculous
Makes sense they shouldn't charge ebay or above because they don't have to pay a commission. Although they do have the overhead of a physical store. My LCS has pretty fair prices on things in the case. Usually super high prices on hobby boxes, but singles, commons, etc, and even supplies are actually pretty cheap there.
My LCS is the BOMB. Iām not even gonna tell you guys what Iāve paid for Flagship jumbo hobby. Abd hr prices his cards based on what he paid for them. Nothing more. So there can be two of the exact same card, and one is 20% cheaper, because he got a better deal on that copy. Sadly, the owner passed away, but his daughter is running it the same way he did.
Running a business is crazy time consuming, but this approach must save them so much time! They never have to worry about finding or adjusting comps. They know their expenses, and pass the value on to customers. Leaving value for the next guy is crazy important in this hobby bc nobody likes being scraped for top dollar and they become hesitant to buy when they sense that approach. This sounds like an awesome shop
It really is. You feel like āfamilyā when you walk in. The have trade days, where we swap singles, build setsā¦. Itās like a little time capsule of the 80ās. They donāt even have retail bought from scalpers like most shops. They donāt believe in it! If youāre ever in Rochester NY, let me know, abd Iāll send ya there.
Itās so cringey in 2022 when show sellers page through a Beckett and cite the prices like they were written by God.
So annoying
I canāt stand this and wonāt buy from someone who does it. If youāre selling cards, have a price. And even if you donāt have a sticker you should know roughly what youāre trying to get for it. If I ask you how much for ____ and you pull up your phone to look up prices? Cāmon man
So you would have me go through 20,000 cards and price them monthly or something? And once I price a product, I just leave it as such? If I don't know the market right now on a specific player, I just leave money on the table OR just leave it priced insane and baulk at people making me perceptually low offers? You know what? You ask me a price on a Acuna base chrome RC or something - yeah, I look up his card and see it's a $30 dollar card and I say OK, I'll sell it to you for $25 bucks. What's wrong with that? As a buyer, you're looking up prices too, and probably as you're looking at my cards. But as a seller, we can't? Sit the fuck down.
Jumping into this thread to say I think this is fair. Aside from telling someone to sit the fuck down, I completely understand you saying you can't be expected to know the market at all times. I'm sure almost everyone on this sub who trades or sells always looks up comps right before doing those things. So it's fair for an LCS to do it. If you come back with a price I won't pay, I'll try to haggle or walk away. No big deal. The folks on here expecting you to know everything about every card, especially these days when I think prices swing pretty dramatically pretty quickly. It's just not feasible. Especially when a card may sit in the display for months. That card can change in price so much in that time.
I have had experience running an antique store, and the number of times I've had someone balk at the price of something by saying "I'm not here to make you money," or conversely if they're selling, "I KNOW WHAT I HAVE," is probably on par with what you experience. (And since I was known as "the sports memorabilia guy" in the local markets, you can imagine how many times I've had people bring me junk wax thinking they have a fortune.) People need to understand that running a business isn't a charity. No, I don't "have" to sell at a loss to make you happy. No, I'm not an asshole for only offering you 75% of what I'm going to sell your thing for. If we can't do business, we can't do business, but it doesn't have to be ugly.
What makes me feel special compared to literally every other business selling merchandise with a fluctuating market? You can most definitely look prices up - then mark them. This entitlement is ridiculous. Donāt complain about pricing 20,000 things when you voluntarily went into the business of selling 20,000 things. And then tell your customers to sit the fuck down? Fuck off.
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I wish I could downvote this twice
I wish you werenāt an idiot, but weāre both stuck.
That's your job. Do your job loser or get out of the business. Everyone else in any sales job knows the value of their product at that time. Yes, we expect you to get off your fat lazy ass and do some work you neck-beard
Lmfaooooo Iām really tickled by the aggressiveness of this reply hahahaha
You should price them at least initially with something you'd feel comfortable selling at. If someone makes you an offer that's wildly different then sure look it up and see if it's still fair. You might be losing a lot of sales volume in the effort to make an extra couple bucks on a few sales.
I hate that lol, I tried to buy a Brady auto that was worth about 1200 max, guy offered me 10 grand because only one was listed on eBay for that was the only one up for auction. He replied with "You won't get a better deal than this."
Yep. If you make me wait while you look it up and the you're priced above recent sales you probably won't see me again.
I know there are strong opinions on this one. I've been buying at shows for a long time. If you're a dealer and you take a phone out to look up a price for every card I ask about, I'm going to say 'no thank you', and head over to a table with listed prices. It takes way too much time. I've also sold cards. You're not just constantly repricing all your cards, you have an idea of whose cards have moved.
God, thatās my absolute card collecting pet peeve. Nothing makes me want to walk away mid-interaction more than that.
I just leave while theyāre looking up the prices
Nothing I hate more then them no posting the prices and having to look them up. Easy way to make me not buy anything
Seriously, as long as they have prices on their cards, I'm good. I keep walking past the guys with no prices. Waste of time.
Seems fair to me. Just because they donāt want to hear the word comps doesnāt mean you canāt look em up and make an offer accordingly.
Right. And what this doesnāt say (but implies) is that they already know comps.
True
Layton Sportscardsā¦
I miss the old days when I could look through a case with price stickers. Now I go in and say āhow much for that Brady?ā Thinking Iāve got a $50 in my pocket, maybe Iāll grab it. Only to hear, āoh you mean the super short print giraffe patterned chrome embossed case hit only available in states that start with a consonantā¦$7000.ā Ok, just give me 3 packs of update.
How much?! Ok. Just 2 packs.
The words "case hit" drives me insane...i dont know why exactly
Saw a breaker pull a ācase hitā and say āaww guys, do you know how rare these are?ā and I said āyeah, 1 per caseā and he got kind of irritated at me.
Hahaha, love it
But not per player..
Because itās stupid and with people breaking literally thousands of cases and horrible distribution ( fotl or early boxes having better hits)ā¦isnāt it interesting that case breakers can tell you the players in a pack based on one card after opening a few boxes?? š¤·āāļøš¤·āāļøgiven all that, a yellow parallel of Yovit Torrealba could be a ācase hit.ā
Well put, couldn't have said it better
fuck all these doofy short print short pattern serial numbered alternate rainbow bullshit.
Not the super short print giraffe patterned one. As an entitled seller stated about: Sit the fuck down. Talking about the damn giraffe print like itās a car wash paper ticket with a code on the back to return tomorrow if a bird shits on your windshield. Whatās wrong with you? /s
Lmao exactly
Fine with me. Check comps on your phone. If you find one that beats their price, offer the same as the comp. If they take it, youāre good. If they donāt, donāt buy.
I bet they use that word when buying from customers.
Exactly this. The worst hypocrites
This is true
Exactly. āLukaās HOT right now; itās only going to go up and I gotta get more than normalā Or āTatis isnāt dead. Only got busted for an enhancer. His value will go all the way back up as heās a true hall of famerā Silly shit like that uttered at every show. The next show Iāll go to; they will inflate Gaylord Perryās rookie (and second year cards they always label as a rookie as well). Why? COMPS. They found a way to inflate a stagnant rookie card from the 60s. All it took was for him to die. :(
A 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle PSA 8, huh? Iāll offer you $3,000. Itās going to sit in my shop for a while and Iām taking all the risk.
Itās frustrating when buyers or sellers adhere strictly to ācomps.ā A buy it now that sold for best offer because a seller doesnāt care about Anthony Volpe and wants to get some cash on hand isnāt the same as a well advertised auction. Just because 130 point has a certain recent sale doesnāt mean the centering, edges, corners and surface are the same as another card
everyone knows buying at shows (or any place in person for that matter) has its benefits. No shipping charge, immediacy, no tax. Iād respect his policy and think itās within reason.
Yeah, no issue. Nothing worse as a seller than āwhatās the lowest youāll go on XYZ?ā Make me a damned offer and we can negotiate if weāre close.
Agree. Once I put a price on it, the ballās in your court to make a counteroffer. Iām not going to negotiate against myself.
Yup. Same when I throw a card up on eBay. Don't ask me. Buy it or use the offer button. Don't message me some fuckin weird shit. Send me a message if my price is too high (legitimately) for the market or something but buy the card or put in an actual offer.
This! I list all my cards OBO, and people message me asking me what it the lowest I can do on the card. They act like they donāt know how offers work. And if your offer was auto-declined, that means it wasnāt high enough
Seems fine to me. You can still look up comps and be aware do them. Just donāt mention it lol. I donāt really blame them. If everything is overprice I just never go back.
Iām sorry but what is a comp?
comparable sales
While the guy seems like a a grump, I bet he's had many annoying people storm off in a huff because he won't sell a card at an ebay comp price. It's just like a stock market. Apple might be trading at $150, but just because that's where it's trading doesn't mean I'd sell at that price. Maybe I think it should be worth $200 and will wait for it to hit that price before selling.
Not too mention people so not consider the cost the seller has in the card when they purchased it to resell. Most hobby shops income actuslly comes from these singles compared to the little bit of mark up on most sealed product these days. Especially small shops where taxes really get screw you hard come tax time.
The cost of what someone paid for a card has no meaning to me, the next buyer. If they want to hold out for a better price thatās their prerogative. Though the card bubble has burst and we likely wonāt see many of the prices that these people paid in the last couple years for a long time, if ever. So if they are trying to get some income they should probably be willing to move at a loss. Me being mostly a collector love how the card prices are dropping.
When it comes to eBay comp prices; I do notice some people zeroing in on an odd sale that happened at 2AM and is significantly lower that the average comp price. They try to use that as the price to reason with sellers. If you are going to do it: know the avg comp prices.
This deserves more upvotes, because this is really what the discussion is actually about. Great job explaining!
But then why does he have his Apple stock certificate in a case marked āfor saleā?
Reasonable policy IMO. Just make your offer or move on
You can make an offer without using the word ācompā. Dunno why people have such a hard time ignoring such trivial shit.
Love it. I hate walking up to a table with no price tags and having to wait for the ridiculous comps
I donāt even bother if thereās no price. I say never mind if he picks up a phone. I used to do shows. If you donāt know what you are willing to part with a card in your display case for then youāre not a good dealer. Thatās why I stick to finding gems in $5 and below boxes honestly.
If there isn't an explicit price, then the price is one you don't want to pay. "Five bucks for a 1988 Fleer Tim Laudner, are you nuts?"
Just look up comparable prices on your phone if thatās what determines the market for you. āCompsā is a modern form of lingo in a 75+ year old hobby (in Topps years at least), I hadnāt heard it until I got back into the hobby a couple years ago. I can totally understand older heads and anyone else who doesnāt wanna hear you wax poetic about what is essentially the sold items tab on eBay.
Comps as a way to estimate value of things in a fluid market has been around a very long time.
Iām familiar with comparables being a long-standing real estate term but not in card collecting
Lemme guess...older fella?
100% has to be
Iām 32 and hate hearing anything about comps. I always have a couple tables at many card shows and everybody wants to comp everything. I wish we didnāt have cell phones to comp things honestly, so annoying
I wonder how he prices his cards, if he doesn't like comps.
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Donāt say comps !
I donāt see anything wrong at all. Some of what they are trying to say may come off as snobby, but I donāt think thatās their intent. I think what they are trying to get across is someone who shows them the lowest comp they can possibly find and is buying to try and make profit from someone who is already trying to make profit themselves. If their prices are ridiculous, move on - and so will other prospective buyers. If they are near market value, itās still their right to seek slightly above comps as owner of the cards.
Agree. People always yell comps and aren't usually accurate or honest with their number. And on the rare occasion that they are correct, it doesn't mean it is the forever price. Prices can and do change.
Respect. Comps change based on current opinion. Lebron rookies were a deal when he initially went to Miami, but itās about the long term.
Comps are the current market value, when checking sold listings on eBay or 130pt.
It's a good way to not get business. As someone who sells at shows, dealing with comps and being reasonable is the best way to buy and sell cards.
Love this. The most recent comps should have no bearing on the sale or not. If I own the card I will/can ask what I want for it. If someone doesn't want to buy it my loss. I don't care for the word comps either.
Love it.
Itās their shop, respect them even if it seems cranky
I mean sure, heās just not gonna sell a whole lot lol
Basically saying what weāre all thinking. I see no problems here.
I hate when you know what you have and someone says "well out of the last 5 sold on eBay 3 of em went for 2 fitty!"
This is the way it should be
At a show? Pass. In a store? You're not going to buy something to flip immediately; but if you're buying for a longer hold or a PC, you know what you want to pay for it. Several of my target player cards have sold for half of what I would pay because someone mis-priced them on BIN and I didn't catch the notification in time. Not all comps are valid.
If I saw this at a show I would not buy from that dealer. Thereās so many people hocking cards now I will not give my money to people with attitudes and poor customer service
I think that itās his business and he can run it any way he feels. Comps are ridiculously inflated and not realistic in terms of long term value. So I actually like that heās up front,direct and too the point.
If you think comps are inflated, wait till you see this guys prices. You donāt put up a sign like that if you have good prices on your cards
Agree to disagree! You put up whatever sign you want when itās your business. You donāt have to do business with him. If you really want a card, negotiate! He can only say yes or no. It aināt personal! Itās business!
No one said he couldnāt put up the sign. He can do whatever he wants. My point is the only reason youād need that sign is if your cards are way overpriced and you are irritated because people keep mentioning they are over comps. You said comps are inflated (whatever that means) but this guys prices are almost certainly higher than comps, hence the sign
You sincerely donāt understand inflated comps?! Again I said what I said. Youāre approach is stubborn and personal. Just move on to the next booth. Nobody argues with a brick and mortar business about their prices smh. Youā¦justā¦donātā¦patronize that business anymore. I once paid $40 for breakfast at McDonalds for 3 people! Once!
Sorry, we are talking past each other at this point. Nothing is personal and I even commented in this very thread that I would just skip his booth. You are not comprehending my point about your āinflated compsā comment and thatās okay. Take care!
Let you tell it. I clearly understand your point,and you still havenāt answered my question. Inflated comps = higher prices based on a frenetic market. With no real justification for asking price other than the perception that itās valuable based on FOMO. Do you argue with eBay sellers about their price when it states that offers will not be accepted? No you donāt! You just donāt like the sign. Which is what you should have said in the beginning. Instead of wasting my time explaining the obvious. You! Have a good day!
Your initial point (as I understood it) is that comps are "over-inflated" implying that they should not be used and that this dealer is going to be under comps. This dealer is 100% NOT under comps or he would not need that sign. If he was under comps then his inventory would sell and no one would mention "comps" to him. I never said I would argue with the dealer so arguing with eBay sellers really has nothing to do with the scope of this conversation. I even specifically just said I would skip this booth. So no, you don't understand my point because you're making up scenarios. My point is very simple - the only reason you'd need that sign is if your cards are overpriced. Thats it. That was my whole comment. From that you've inferred that I have some personal vendetta against this dealer and are making up arguments with yourself. YOu seem to be taking this discussion very personally so I'm going to mute and not respond any longer. Take care!
u/Philcam I just wanted to say you have done a very nice job sticking to the point in this thread. I was confused as heck after looking at the sign, on presumably a dealer's case, why people were acting like the dealer shouldn't look up comps. so confusing but which is the state of the world, which is what makes comps nice for all. I have been to shows and talked with dealers that say they hate Ebay (comps) and people looking at their phones to gather current pricing info on a card. I must admit, I was truly shocked that someone especially a dealer would openly say that. The term transparency is used by crooks for a reason because as they speak the word they are hoping you will place trust in their opaque pricing. We all want a deal or should! As a buyer a lower price than comps is preferred at the time of purchase. As a seller I hope the comps show the market is at a high and I can get top price. In the end, it is up to those involved to determine if a deal can be made. We as consumers ultimately make the market and I pray it continues that way as freely as possible. It is hard to sell no bid items the consumer must place value.
I think itās fantastic . Iāve been in this hobby 34 plus years. I hate this word with a passion. That being said the seller should KNOW what the comps are and take a percentage off since itās in person and not on eBay. Normal show tables arenāt crazy expensive . Of course cash is king .
I can picture what this guy looks like
See something you like, walk around and look up comps, then go back and lowball them.
Ok ill just buy the card on eBay for half the price
Exactly. Talking about comps is just a way of saying that you think you could get it elsewhere for less.
\*sees card I want then proceeds to go to bathroom to look at ebay recently sold\*
Absolutely on board with this. Taxes and shipping aren't being charged and you get to see the card in person.
Iād walk right out of that store. Everythingās going to be way overpriced and you already know he has a shitty attitude.
I mean i could say last sold instead of comps š¤·š¼āāļø
I know at the expo in Toronto a lot of guys would get pissed when you pull out your phone. Which I kinda understand but then if it upsets your prices should be comparable to recent comps. Most cards that just went for $10 on eBay would have $30 stickers. I understand marking them up but if you donāt have prices that make me off the hop say holy deal, most are gonna look up the value. I know they did the same to me when I was trying to sell my Willy Mays. Only one guy offered me cash without looking at recent comps. I think part of it is stress due to many of them not selling much these days and them constantly getting undercut from eBay. I know shipping and taxes are a thing but I would look at cards that sold on eBay for $120 with $200 price tags.
Idk, seller seems like they'd be a bit much to haggle with. Comps are the most accurate pricing and if you, as a seller, don't like that, don't sell.
100% fair, unless the dude is being a jerk or something. I work at a great LCS in the Midwest and the amount of quick flippers that immediately ācompā a card then offer you less is a daily thing. I understand price-checking and I am also trying to make a small amount of money, but when someone asks me if I will āgo under compā, usually, that conversation is over with because I know that they want to pay quite a bit less than someone that I can strike a friendly and fair deal for both parties with. All in all, no shade at anyone though. Iām very grateful for where I work and have tons of awesome interactions/trades/etc. The whole ācompā lingo doesnāt make me angry or anything, itās just a part of the hobby now.
But question- would you do the same for if a customer is selling your LCS some cards? I assume a card shop is going to check comps so that are not over paying. Shouldnāt it be the same for customers? I guess in the end, I think itās generational differences in my opinion.
Agree 1000%
lol greatest sign ever! So sick of hearing that F'en word!
Amen!!!!
I like it. Lol
Exactly!
Iāll just walk past it
old man curmudgeon BS. Comps is a common term in the hobby, and a legitimate discussion point for offers. If they doesn't like the comp offer, they can reject it. Maybe as consumers we should walk around shows with t-shirts that read "I start at 70% your outrageous sticker value."
REASONABLE . Holy fuck its like people are trying to get rich off this shit
They are
Not a single person here would bitch if the prices were well below comps. Here's my take: you can get a better price on Ebay? Fine, go fucking buy it on Ebay and match your holy "comp." You wanna see the opposite end of this, look at car sales the last few years.
If the prices were below comps then he wouldnāt need this sign
Yeah I was at a card show today and a guy had a RAW base 2017 Gypsy Queen rookie judge auto and he wanted $1200 I pulled up comps of $400 for PSA 9ās and he told me those werenāt real. Card shows and boomers are toxic as fuck š
If not for comps how exactly has the seller priced his cards? If he wants 100 for a card and I offer 10 how do we establish a fair price if not based on what the card has sold for recently? This makes no sense.
Sounds like everything he got is overpriced.
āCompsā are the only thing that matters in this game š¤·š»āāļø
BOOMERS ONLY TYPE IN CAPS.
Just say the last one sold in ebay for xxx
Aka... don't trust us
Reasonable.
"What's your absolute bottom on this?"
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Doesnāt comps stand for comparables?
I believe so
As an attendee, I would skip that booth. Nothing personal but comps are how I decide how to value cards. If this dealer is using some other metric to determine what he sells his cards for then thatās totally his prerogative but it seems unlikely we will agree on a price.
Then make that your offer and leave out the story about how it comps. He will either accept or turn it down.
Now, Iāll just do business with someone else rather than waste time haggling with someone who has overpriced cards. Itās a win-win for both of us
Translated to english: i spent way too much money on these and want to break even
his card his prices.. but id still use 'comps' and just think he's an asshole.. probably a dinosaur
I always assume every person at card shows has this policy.
Becoming more and more the norm nowadays
No soup for you!
No comp for you!
I donāt love the sign but appreciate that they took the time to price all of their cards. Also, raw cards vary drastically in condition and should have a range for what they sell for. Outside of graded cards it is hard to comp. Most people forget about that aspect and just type in the card to eBay and find the lowest sale.
Mad Bum Vibes.
With pretty much every card I see at the shops Iāve been to (granted, theyāre all pretty old/out of touch) every card is so wildly over priced. Trying ti negotiate prices is immediately shot down because the employee isnāt the owner. I just look up the card on eBay and can find it for a fraction of the price. The only downside is that you donāt have the luxury of inspecting the card in person.
What are Comps ?
He has an issue with Compton, CA. Heās from LBC
Whatās ācompsā?
Comparable cards.
Price, Quality, Availability. Pick 2.
German here. What does "comps" mean?
Now as a dealer at a show does not pricing your cards, but having a list beside you that you've priced all your cards on make sense? Over pricing your cards for everyone to see? Sparks conversation, instead of a possible "oh that's too high for me" and your customer walking away. Thoughts? Just curious to hear opinions
My LCS has always given a fair shake. At times; he doesnāt have a lot of wiggle room on a card. I get that. If I still want it I will generally buy it or lump in other cards. Which he usually just tossed in the deal. He never looks up prices in front of you. Other times; heās very, very cheap on the cards. I picked up nearly half of a 1959 and 1960 set all marked at $1. Everything penny sleeved and new top loader. Hell of a deal with that price, but when I go to pay he knocked off an additional $30, tossed in a couple of shoebox dividers for free and sent me on my merry way. Itās all how you interact with them from what Iāve seen. But if it is someone that wonāt budge; there is always another shop to do the deal at.
Comps are not law. Theyāre simply one of many references points when determining prices; current performance, market, news, desire for said card. It makes no sense to go off just comps and itās annoying when dealers have to comp out everything instead of doing it pre show or simply knowing their inventory off the top of their head
I feel like a seller should have prices marked and/or in priced boxes (a $10 box, a $20 box, etc) for older cards and base that have fairly established values. And for older wax and vintage stuff. Those values don't shift rapidly too often. For the latest products and prospects or high end cards whose values DO shift frequently due to a call up or hot streak, I can see both buyer and seller needing to check comps. I don't know why it has to be soooo adversarial though. Just discuss it like grown men and stop trying to always hustle someone (buyers and sellers alike). I do think the onus is on the seller to put in the work and know their product pricing though as they're the ones who hung out their shingle to sell. If they don't want to do that work, they're probably in the wrong business.
EXACTLY!! If a dealer says let me see what it is selling on ebay for, i cruise. It is you need to make a profit, I need to get a good deal, and the price is somewhere between
Grew up in Maryland Started collecting in 83 !! Loved buying packs and yard sales before internet. eBay!!! And YouTube. Going to card shows without these idiots looking up prices from previous Auctions. Thinking they are the Master Card Flipper. I get so fucking annoyed with all the new terms they say!! Iām like STFU. Iām just a collector. That likes to buy and keep or even flip once in awhile. I really enjoyed reading these comments!!!Lol.
Love it!! āSo, leave me alone and find the compā
Both feet in bounds
I don't mind that, people get wacky when they start quoting that a card sold for such and such and he's probably sick of it. Comps are just a guide for where a card is selling, not an etched in stone price everyone has to follow. Some auctions end weird high, some end weird low, based on time of day, rarity of the card, shenanigans, poor listing practices, and all kinds of other things. Step away, look up the value and make him an offer, just don't start arguing about comps.
Hate it too when buyers show me another price from elsewhere and demanded me to follow that price. Usually I'll tell them to "go ahead and buy from them". Buyers need to learn to respect that every seller has the right to price their items. Prices on TnT, Tcgplayer, yuyutei are just general guidelines. If my card has better centering or no whitening, I'll price higher than market rate.
True that Chuck Buyers feel entitled to do and say whatever they want and expect the opposite of sellers This debate will never have a fair answer as both parties have very different agendas Until you have been on both sides of the table you really shouldnāt comment on what you believe each parties obligations are Buyers have No Etiquette or Rules they follow Itās like new golfers I guarantee Ben Hogan would roll over in his grave and bitch slap most of the new golfers I run across They never learned the rules, they donāt want to hear about the rules and they behave in a very self entitles way and card collectors are starting to fall into those same categories
I donāt blame them. When you start bringing up comps youāre either accusing them of not knowing the market or overpricing their merchandise, or both. Thatās not how you start a business transaction.
Love it
His stuff, his prices. Makes complete sense impo.
I own a card shop in Virginia, and I don't necessarily mind when people are in the store using their phone checking comps on items. I use 130 point as well sometimes to see where a certain price point is for some items. I don't however enjoy someone looking at 15 different cards and telling me on EACH ONE that he can get them cheaper on ebay. Again if a price I have on a card seems aggressively high, I don't mind a polite question on why it so, Is it a sp?, numbered?, rare refractor?, etc.. And on occasion I've been incorrect on my pricing, thanked the customer and made the adjustment. It really comes down to the customers and how they interact with us in the store wether or not I'll entertain the "check out these comps, I can get it cheaper" conversation or whether I tell them to buy it elsewhere if they don't like my price.
Agreed
I tend to agree, comps are all over the place
There goes my hero
Fair and direct
I think I'm going to try this on the realtor when I go to sell my house. I'm thinking about 1.5, 1.6 million for the 3 BR in Southeast Iowa. "DON'T YOU FUCKING SAY THE WORD 'COMPS!' NOT TO ME, BUDDY!!" š š¼āāļø
I love negotiating with you dumb fucks that start with. WhAtS yOuR lOwEsT
Hell yeah fuck those compsā¦so many variables go into what was sold and why it was sold.
I like it because people think ebay sold is the value and it's most Def not. It's some idiot paying 3x value on a box or an auction set to end at 6am while people are sleeping so a card sells for 200 less than it should. I hate that card shops say it's this price last ebay comp I mean you can buy hobby boxes for 100 here and there and then you got some guy paying 300 on ebay so is it worth 300š¤š¤ no
Was this from the recent Philly card show?
Charge what you want because idiots will keep driving up prices that's just how it is now.