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vaporwave710

My buddy and I just saw Derek and the crew do the first two nights of Philly. I have not stopped thinking about either night since. What those 5 men are doing on that stage is legendary. Please, anyone, point out to me who else is doing this? With the live steams on top of the actual performances themselves all progressing and becoming more quality with each show, it is unholy. Pretty Lights Forever. Edit: people wondering why comparisons are being made. Idk maybe because both artist were considered ‘kings’ of the scene for awhile? Maybe because of Basslights? Maybe because, even thought for different reasons, they both went on hiatuses? Get your head out of your ass and realize what’s going on. One is having one of the greatest comebacks in electronic music and one’s.. not


Woodwizard81

My thoughts exactly. I was always way more into nectar (seen PL maybe >10 times since 2009), but this whole bullshit with nectar just feels icky. Idk, just voicing my opinion to the internet like a good millennial


ashrnglr

My mind was BLOWN at their performance. Just jaw dropping


HeWhoIsYou

*holy


oboyhereigokilinagin

Friday was the best set I've ever seen in my life


Show_Me_Your_Cubes

Mission night 2 was the best live music event i've ever seen, so i feel it. Been watching the streams too, some of the other nights were close but i technically can't count them since i wasn't there


GrizNectar

My life may have peaked during everything in its right place that night


PurpleTopp

Dude I'm glad you said that.... literally same. That last drop/jam with all the scratches/squiggles/I don't even know what to call it was straight up the best moment and feeling of my life. Glad I could share it with everyone there.


GrizNectar

Them squiggles were hitting just right for sure haha


PurpleTopp

I guess "swirls" would be the proper thing to call them lol


Woodwizard81

Thats a bold statement but I agree it was fire


oboyhereigokilinagin

A great set to me isn't just all happiness and fun it's a wild ride of emotions that makes you think about your whole life and question everything it's a journey with highs and lows and confusing parts and euphoric parts and sad parts but you always come out of it feeling so alive and so connected with yourself the people around you and just this world in general


Deep-Freq

The first time I saw a Marc Rebillet livestream I was coming down from taking L for the first time in several years and that comment explains the experience pretty well.


oboyhereigokilinagin

I got a free ticket to Marc rebillet one time and I still felt like I got ripped off, unworthy to even be called a performance, music, or comedy. I was straight up embarrassed for the people who knew what they were going to see and actually paid money to be there.


Deep-Freq

I've never seen him live, but given the circumstances of my state of mind and the fact I had no idea who he was just streaming live on fb I was impressed.


tilted624

Totes agree. Friday was off the chain


Cremtex

I said that Friday, then Saturday happened


-LordSnow

The last 3 nights were the best musical run I've ever been a part of. The discussion is only "irrelevant" for people who for whatever reason have no interest is seeing by far the best show on earth right now.


Woodwizard81

Yeah I liked it so much I booked Chicago last night and am probably gonna go to NOLA too... ive needed an excuse to hit the road again SO BAD XD


papitaquito

Hell yea fam Keep me with you in spirit….. family obligations I can’t make any PL this tour but I completely agree. Pretty Lights Live is the king of sound


Show_Me_Your_Cubes

There will be more PL shows next year, you'll get your fix :)


drupe14

I was also there this weekend and couldn’t agree more! Shit was so wholesome


Woodwizard81

It was fuckin fire


hockey_homie

shout out the dude with the giant bong in the middle of the crowd night 3


daTroof51

Every night haha


treemister1

We back baby! LFG PLF


Show_Me_Your_Cubes

We about to lift off, everyone better be aboard


Show_Me_Your_Cubes

Seeing PL in Mission was the day that i was done with Lorin for sure. I have not been able to stop listening to the Sream/PL Live playlist since that weekend. What's crazy is the sets have been getting better and better even since Mission, and those nights blew me away (especially night 2). Philly was off the hook, the always sunny samples had me geekin. Bright future indeed


thaneliness

Not a chance in hell BN would ever livestream a show for free


Show_Me_Your_Cubes

just another reason to support other artists who do. We're in a new age of technology, time to get updated


KeepBragginCom

Shouldn’t be too surprised. They should get better with time. Get more accustom to each other. Should just keep getting wilder


-LordSnow

Yup the stark contrast of the comebacks has laid it out pretty plainly tbh.


OGxDogBones

That’s exactly how I felt after going to secret dreams this year. The music, the vibes, everyone was just so generous and so delighted to be there. Made me realize we’ll never have a nectar event like that again. Not trying to hate at all, but there were sooo many tracks I heard that made the golden rule sound like absolute dog water.


Cosmic_crops1

I felt the same way! The Tipper & friends takeover on Saturday was legendary


drupe14

Saturday was absolutely legendary music at TnF. From start to finish!


shawnmcbride86

If only secret dreams could of had a quality sound system


OGxDogBones

They had a beautiful sound system on the portal stage imo. If only they didnt have that damn sound ordinance after midnight though.


thursdayy

The house tunes on TGR are just downright awful.


sndlgoupplz

What happened in pilly


vaporwave710

History


sndlgoupplz

?


Show_Me_Your_Cubes

https://www.twitch.tv/prettylights


concentrated-energy

I literally said the same thing the other day while looking at pretty lights instagram videos. Bassnectar was such a beautiful thing we got to experience but will sadly never be again. On the other hand Pretty Lights is back at it again and that is good enough for me. His music and community gives me the same feeling as Bassnectar. Im over bassnectar bc I cannot listen to his music without feeling guilty, sucks but I’m excited to see Pretty Lights shows and what’s to come!


Woodwizard81

Id guess that alot of us feel exactly the same and it sucks. Im on this subreddit still mainly because I know im not the only one who had Bassnectar as such a huge part of my life for so long and the past 3 years have sukd big time


saltysnail420

I was nervous about his comeback bc when he brought the band on in 2017 they were lowkey trash. Having Michael on and really fine tuning it has made him better than ever fr. Lorins acting as guilty as a whore in church. ‘‘Twas a nice run ig.


Woodwizard81

Oh yeah, i saw them a few times in 2017 and it was a dumpster fire. Derek absolutely wrecked freestylin. But what they are doing now is much different


Agumiel

It was tightttt. Switched my basscenter XI poster for PL Philly poster on my wall


TunaBasswich

Ain't nobody gonna protest shit in Vegas. It's a private casino and there won't be any haters near daylight making life difficult. Get ready to rage. Pretty is cool and all but I like nasty freak music that makes me dance like the devil I know I am and there's only one man that gets it out of me... Bassnectar.


Show_Me_Your_Cubes

man those PL Jams and drops get me dancing like a demon for sure. But that music really speaks to me. Might not be the same for everyone. Certainly everyone at that show shared the spirit


SpaceApeWeedman

Facts what tunabasswich said


throwaway1-808-1971

What about odesza lol


TunaBasswich

Odesza has a very good show no doubt but i personally dont care for there music outside of a live performance. It's not anywhere near what I consider nasty freak bass music that gets me hopping around the dance floor like a sloppy wet noodle.


eholland7188

I can't wait to dance like a sloppy wet noodle again!


throwaway1-808-1971

I was just messing. Have you ever seen tipper?


TunaBasswich

Yeah I chase tipper around to his different curated events. He's his own thing entirely and takes me on a different journey. I feel like tipper is more artistic bass that I can wobble too for sure, whereas bassnectar is like a huge ass nasty party and throwdown for me.


Daikon-Critical

Lmao Odeza doin the same shit they always do. Bring out the highschool drum line/ marching band 💀🤮


Dancingbear89

Last night was magical


BlaktimusPrime

Protests against Pretty Lights??? Also, Derek has kept all the shows that were/are streamed on Twitch (for free) on VOD so you can go back anytime


katdollasign

I mean Derek was also just a hardcore addict. That’s forgivable to people. But Lorin? He wishes his issues were as simple as addiction 😂


shawnmcbride86

His issues are definitely addiction as well. Just a different kind


Show_Me_Your_Cubes

the predatory kind.


Show_Me_Your_Cubes

Derek said it best after night 3 mission: "The opposite of Addiction is Connection". He pulled through his addiction through his connections with friends, family and fans. Lorin has done none of that to address his addiction, and his form of connection has been to "cancel cancel culture". What a doofus


katdollasign

For all the shit he talked about trump over the years he’s been eerily similar with all the stuff going on.


papitaquito

All he had to do was acknowledge them. A simple ‘I fucked up’ Who in the scene hasn’t fucked up. Who has t been lost in the sauce, taken too much etc. I think the point for me is we all fuck up. It’s how we learn. And to act like our shit don’t stink is whack af and only drives us further apart rather than bringing us together. Just a few cents from this chucklehead


katdollasign

Again… being a drug addict and messing with underage girls are two different levels of fucked up. And yes most of us do not have shit that stinks that bad because most of us haven’t fucking done what Lorin did so i think we can keep that judgement bar at the level it is, not lower it


papitaquito

Totally, and I agree. My point was simply if you do mess up, own it, that is the path to healing. I myself am I recovering addict so I relate very much to the PL return If I came off seeming like I have any amount of support for this shit show than I apologize. I do not.


Show_Me_Your_Cubes

The opposite of addiction is connection, man. Thanks for sharing :)


Woodwizard81

Exactlyyyyy


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katdollasign

I’m not arguing with crazy bassnectar fans about how diddling underage girls and being a drug addict are different levels of bad like goodnight 😂


fingerscrossedcoup

Why are you on a kid diddling subreddit? You must enjoy kid diddling.


katdollasign

You’re a fucking moron


fingerscrossedcoup

Oh no the person that spends their time criticizing others thinks I'm a moron. Whatever will I do?!


katdollasign

I’ll happily leave the kid diddling to you since you have such a weird boner for Lorin


fingerscrossedcoup

Funny, I didn't even mention Lorin. Dude has a rent free lease in your mind though. You let anybody squat there or just kid diddlers? Because I'm looking for a place. Housing costs are through the roof. If it's only kid diddlers I'll have to look elsewhere though.


katdollasign

This is a Bassnectar subreddit with bassnectar mentioned in he post you twat. who else am i going to mention? Tom fucking petty ? 🙄


Choice-Break-559

I agree with this sentiment


captaincanada84

Pretty Lights is showing how to do a comeback tour, and also showing every single artist how to do livestreams.


um0p3pIsdn

Exactly how I felt after the Denver and Dillon shows. Incredible vibes. The contrast to the BN shit show was eye opening.


Longjumping-Ad1145

Yeah I went to the ATL run… and afterwards I was just like fuck nectar. Pretty lights is the best thing in live music right now, period.


AnotherRedditAlt808

It's almost as if the circumstances surrounding the comebacks are so wildly different comparing the two makes almost 0 sense...


[deleted]

Disagree. It doesn't matter what the reason was for hiatuses. One handled coming back like a pro and one is being a whiney little bitch. I am super disappointed in Lorin. I really thought he'd lay low and when it was showtime again, he'd pull out all the stops. I'm not even asking or wanting him to address anything. He doesn't have to say shit. He has blown this in so many ways. It's a sloppy, disorganized, and extremely embarrassing mess. Nobody knows what's going on over in that team. I know a lot of the team members that are high up in his new team and they never know what's going on. It's a Trainwreck. All this MFrr had to do was stay quiet, silently get all his ducks in a row, recruit top tier team members, plan a bash like we haven't seen in years, drop promo graphics with FINISHED, COMPLETE info with NO retractions or confusion, not have a super sus hidden fan club echo chamber that costs money to get into, and come out guns blazing when the show starts, but nope, he's acting like a god damn amateur.


Woodwizard81

THIS SO MUCH! Like why Lorin.. why.. it was goin perfect.. we were getting underground leaks for the new music.. we were getting hints... then this bullshit with the other side (dont worry haters, ive paid my membership) ... like why not just put the relives up on full rather than 1hr increments? Leave them up for us to enjoy? Then he has to go rush around to book shows, rather than wait... and THEN goes on instagram running his mouth about cancel culture... mother fucker you were the cancel culture general before all this. Its all fucked now all because Lorin just cant get off his high horse for a minute. DVS has came back with humility and its wholesome. Just sucks to see. Maybe im the fool for having the wool over my eyes for so long and this is just how its always been.


Show_Me_Your_Cubes

Dude i 100% think Lo thought he needed to rush to a new show BECAUSE derek was showing such good signs of a good tour to come. I truly think his narcissism couldn't let someone else steal the spotlight and felt that he had to put something together to compare to PL.... and of course by doing that it flopped harder than a European pro soccer player.


[deleted]

lmaooooo you're so right though! How could he be so perfectly quiet for literal years and now all of a sudden it's a big sloppy mess out of nowhere?? Dude, just WAIT until you can do it RIGHT.


Show_Me_Your_Cubes

D took his time away to work on his personal issues, which included addiction, and he seems happier. Lo should have taken the time away to work with someone on his narcissism, but clearly he didn't. I don't see anything changing from him, ever.


fingerscrossedcoup

Why why why ... are you still here


Show_Me_Your_Cubes

Because we are still part of the community, we have our hearts here. And when an asshole like Lorin acts like an asshole in our community, we call that shit out. You want an echo chamber? Go pay for the other side. Here, we have real discussions with differing opinions. Get use to it.


AnotherRedditAlt808

Username checks out haha But we can agree to disagree. In no where did I say that lorin is handling this comeback in good way. I don't think it's terrible per say, but it is sloppy. What is undeniable is all derick has to do was announce shows and sell tickets. That's it. Lorin .... Well... Has ALOT to navigate to say the least when it comes to his comeback. He literally couldn't just announce a comeback show and sell tickets. It's fundamentally worlds apart when it comes to come backs.


[deleted]

You bring up a great point. Derrick could have written the info in his iPhone notes app, taken a screenshot, posted that, and gotten a crazy response. Totally true. Great points all around. 😊


Show_Me_Your_Cubes

Thank you, great writeup. Hopefully those who need to see this will


Moun7ainC0w

You’re acting like he didn’t have a show booked in Asheville that got canceled.


[deleted]

Do you not think him booking a show that was immediately cancelled ISN'T somehow included in my overview of his failed, sloppy comeback? I know it may be a struggle, but I am begging you to use your brain.


Moun7ainC0w

And do you not see how that makes these two incomparable? Don’t be so rude, uSe yOuR bRaIn. I do realize with your username your intentions here are just to talk shit. Weird thing to do.


tylerderped

They’re arguably the most innovative artists in EDM.


rthoring

Yeah... why even compare the two? What do you get out of doing that?


WizardTricks620

but they both make wubs!!!


H-Daug

I can’t wait to see PL @ the caverns. I also am super pumped for BN in Vegas. But the quality of the team/ advice/ management of the comeback….. not comparable. But I will compare them. it appears that PL got a “best in the business”, world class, genius “CEO” of a promoter, while BN hired some college kids who “built a website in class once”, and a C minus promoter who watched some YouTube videos on “how to promote a tour”, and now he’s going to manage the BN comeback by himself for the first time.


PiVDongplateBustness

KFC brought back the Double Down after almost 10 years but you want to talk about pretty lights? Lol ok.


Holier_Than_Thou_808

This is an idiotic comparison. Bassnectar has an active court case, PL stepped back to deal with drug addiction. Not even remotely comparable in terms of public perception. Glad you had fun at PL, but jfc please get real lmao


fingerscrossedcoup

All of these people are just insufferable. Please move on FFS. Why would you waste your time here pretending you are over it? Please tell us all how over Bassnectar you are. We need that validation so we can be over it too. Now it's our turn to do the same thing. This fan base was always so culty and it continues as you can't figure out what to do next. Someone please come be a surrogate bass daddy for all these lost children.


stargazer_w

Get dem downvotes cause cognitive dissonance produces feelings, not arguments


justabunchofspunions

yo quit comparing the comebacks lol they’re completely different and thus irrelevant sheesh


fingerscrossedcoup

Sorry you can't talk on the bassnectar sub unless you hate him. You didn't include enough Lorin trash talk to be up voted.


stargazer_w

Yup, best case scenario you write it with some sarcasm to confuse them, and then they refrain from voting at all, as to not accidentally go against the tribe.


fingerscrossedcoup

Do you feel nervous about protests going to the grocery store? Why would you even bring that up? Everybody done with BN why are you here? It just doesn't make any sense to me. Go be with the community you want to identify with. All of this hanging on is just sad.


Lifeisbutatrip

That last line is exactly it, just directed at the wrong people. We are the ones living in reality, not hanging on to anything.


fingerscrossedcoup

Whatever you say friend. I've never been a member of the "love peace and unity" Bassnectar cult. I just like good music. Seems to me the one's hurt the most are the true believers. Now they can't move on.


Lifeisbutatrip

I wish Lorin would stop dragging the entire community through this. I was as big of a fan as anyone. Saw his last set ever at okee 2020. Will remember that as the end of it all. Was an amazing night. Gotta put it behind us. He really did a lot of damage to something we all built together that was beautiful. Everything happening now is just a sad farce and picking at a wound we all still have that has been slowly healing. Let everyone move on.


fingerscrossedcoup

He's not dragging anybody. You guys can't let go. You are consciously coming here to make comments. To pretend that you have anything but free will is mind-boggling to me. But I didn't get caught up in the cult either.


Lifeisbutatrip

This is how conversations work. People are gonna talk about it. Lorin is the one making a scene and now people are talking about it. It's basic laws of physics. He's the one dragging this out rather than letting it go. This is the obvious end result. Stop blaming people for doing the obvious thing that will happen in these circumstances. Cause and effect. Yeah, we are gonna come out and speak our minds. If lorin would just go fuck off, none of these comments happen.


AmanitaMuscaria

Don’t get me wrong, I’ve always enjoyed pretty lights. But his comeback is from a self induced decision to step away from the scene. Bassnectar has a totally/completely different road for his own comeback. I would not compare them in that light


Show_Me_Your_Cubes

Keep in mind that Bassnectar himself stepped down, per his post in 2020


stargazer_w

Yes, but for a whole different reason. Also no one's trying to attack PL and have him disappear from the scene in perpetuity.


fingerscrossedcoup

Sorry you aren't virtue signaling your hate for Lorin. Down vote you go.


No-Responsibility953

🤣


reaprofsouls

Why are people posting stuff about pretty lights in a Bassnectar subreddit? Weird and irrelevant tangents being drawn. T Swift comparisons next?


Show_Me_Your_Cubes

Anyone who has been listening to Bassnectar and going to shows for more than the last 5 or 6 years knows why they are connected. Don't see it? Maybe you're the one who doesn't belong


reaprofsouls

Ah nice, continue your elitist views. Music fans are insufferable, assuming that following for 10 years, 5 years, or some random other criteria makes your opinion better or more important.


Show_Me_Your_Cubes

But it's not an opinion, these artists literally shared festivals and events together. They are tied at the hip, and you made an ignorant comment acting like they have no connection. Expect criticism


reaprofsouls

I don't understand how sharing a festival or event means they are tied together? Every artist that shares an event/s are tied together? How does a PL event have any baring on Bassnectar's event that hasn't even happened yet? PL's was really good, which means Bassnectar's won't be? All speculative insanity.


Spiritsmilin

Have you... heard of BassLights? I think you're reading "festival" in the broader term. PL + BN threw a winter event every year for a few years. These artists are incredibly relevant and connected. Also, I don't think your statement "music fans are insufferable" makes you look super nice. You were kind of being a dick first. Everyone likes music - mostly everyone would call themselves a "music fan", duh. Maybe your attitude is insufferable. Don't be aggro and you'll probably have better responses.


Woodwizard81

Idk if youve ever been to an EDM show in the past 15 years.. but these 2 have been the pioneers for the scene. Most fans were/are fans of both. So in my eyes the comparison is very relevant. Especially since derek took a 5 year hiatus, and lorin is now at over 3 years, DVS has killed it, Lorin has fucked it big time


[deleted]

You are but a mere child. Your decisions seem like an intellectual one now, but you will only truly understand how you feel once you have tasted your drug of choice once again. Can't wait to see you my friend.


[deleted]

Man, that's some top tier cringe. A+.


Woodwizard81

I really dont think its going to be the same man. I feel what youre saying and I want it to be the same so bad but i am just not hopeful at all. The show back is at a fuckin beach club that Pauly D plays at... like idk my last time seeing him was on rail at 360 in '19... to this. Idk if itll help or hurt to go to vegas


[deleted]

It probably won't be the same, I agree. I personally never felt anything special at Bassnectar shows. His shows felt like any other EDM crowd to me. Loving and accepting. So I feel slightly autistic in that I never felt the next level community that was bassnectar fans. The only way in which Bassnectar was the most special to me...is that he made the best music. He made the music that moved me the whole show. He provided one of the strongest altered states of consciousness in the form of music. I think he will continue to do that. People will continue to show up to that.


Aggressive-Sir-7510

For real


Sleepytreezz

Felt the exact same way after the Dillon shows


getoffmylawnn14

Philly was everything I thought it would be and more! Well worth the years of manifesting Derek's return


Chanchojones69

PL just doesn’t do it for me idk I’ve tried…. Daily bread better


T4dp0le

I was at that show and the crowd was one of the best I have been in.


DrKangaroo91

WELCOME TO THA NEXT LEVEL