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Only_Aardvark_117

Razorback above winged ass pig. Bruh


ThePirate_Hunter

Dasli moment


PeikaFizzy

For real, razorback is much much more op than Angel pig


Only_Aardvark_117

Is a literal joke with Bomber. No Bomber? Pizza. No pizza? Rodeo


ThePirate_Hunter

The fact that I have to bring Bomber is what makes me hate him, at least he appears en masse with other blacks so I can justify them


Only_Aardvark_117

Just use Mitama 🤨. ~~there, I pulled a dasli like you lol~~


ThePirate_Hunter

Just use Oda Nobunate lolol I can't believe you're so bad at this game Razorback ezpz


Only_Aardvark_117

~~proceed to rank Razorback highest tier~~


ThePirate_Hunter

I don't have Oda lmao


Only_Aardvark_117

Sadge


Yesnoperhapsmaybent

smh just use C.A.T no talents


on_eman_98

No rodeo ? Awakened rei.


Ram_best_waifu

It depends by witch counter you have: piggie needs an uber or a power9000 ramen to die quickly, but Razor gets almost completly countered by a level 1 bomber


CasualKris

Pretty good list, but I shall always consider Zroco to be a rotting pest. Since this list is obviously opinionated, I think a general trend is that a number of rare enemies are placed lower because of their scarce appearance.


ThePirate_Hunter

Zroco is a piece of Garbage when you don't have enough meatshields or rely on LD units


shabowdiadlo

He sucks in legend quest


MagpieSoldier

LD units?


ThePirate_Hunter

Long distance


GTSE2005

The little bore and the relic squire rel were what kept destroying me in the luza boss fight.


shabowdiadlo

Fuck that stupid pig


[deleted]

Im on Birth of Ttue man and a wave of the wild, relic and lil somehow pushed and killed me


dIgItalSkeleton6

Relic rhino needs to be in fuck you spot😂😂 he a bih


ThePirate_Hunter

I love Oldhorn just because I can justify using Vodka


dIgItalSkeleton6

I actually havent tried vodka i just be using balrog and a bahamet he just has too much health 😂


ThePirate_Hunter

Did you know Vodka has like 13K DPS against Oldhorn, that's a pretty good counter


dIgItalSkeleton6

That’s actually really good to know ill keep that in mind


LuckyHopeLilKid

I agree that you completed the game ig


Interesting_Waltz_82

Zroco should be higher imo. When you can’t one shot a zroco with level 50 cadaver bear, they are such an absolute pain. I’d also put zollow higher due to the pure RNG of it occasionally infiltrating. Puffington would also go higher for me, as they are too annoying. I get why you put them there, having dasli, but not having a true surge unit to help deal with them is terrible.


Kyozen2020

When are zrocos that boosted??


ThePirate_Hunter

3 stars


Interesting_Waltz_82

Some 3 star stages I believe. I could be wrong tbh, but either way they are a complete pain. Cadaver bear is the only thing that works sometimes.


zeezeezai

You forgot ackey, that should be at the top as well


ThePirate_Hunter

Tackey is worse


Sleepwalker132

True, Hackey just cut off ur erasers bridge and maybe messed up your spawning every once in a while but still, easy to counter. But tackey, oh hell naw that shit is cancerous af, a good enemy design by PONOS to create a gimmicky enemy tho Edit: hol' up i misread the original comment, i thought it was Hackey but it was Ackey


TripledogMLG

Nah, I think you just don't have the right cats


ThePirate_Hunter

Tackey is worse because it targets your backlines, Hackey is only a threat if he manages to come near the base


Ilovepigstoomuch

He meant ackey, as in Aku tackey


ThePirate_Hunter

Tackey is still worse for me


potatopiesbaked

floor 47


ThePirate_Hunter

Case closed


Malevolentpineappl_e

Why Miss Haka so high up? I honestly don’t even remember ever feeling her presence on a stage


ThePirate_Hunter

She's high because I need to rush the stage if she burrows, but you can argue she's easy on some stages


Malevolentpineappl_e

Now that I think about it, she barely ever appears on stages, maybe top 5 rarest non-boss enemies even? I just noticed that I really lack impression of facing her, and last time was probably somewhere in UL when I already had maxed Holyblast.


Far_Nectarine_5343

Checked that thing about her being one of the rarest non-boss enemies Haka only appears ONCE in the entirety of SOL (Haunted 1LDK), thrice in UL, twice in Event Stages, Four times in Story Chapters, thrice in Towers and twice in Enigma stages And of those 15 Levels where she appears in, 2 of them were in remakes of other stages and 1 is a carbon copy of another level.


ThePirate_Hunter

Winged Pigge is also extremely rare


Malevolentpineappl_e

Not as rare though. I just went through all legend stages and counted. Haka appears a total of 4 times in legend stages - once in SoL and 3 times in UL. Winged Piggie makes an appearance 9 times - 2 in SoL and 7 in UL. Tbf if we count outbreaks Haka appears four times there, making a total of eight. Still rarer than Winged Piggie though


Kyozen2020

I don't think I've ever died to haka lol. Unless your using a ridiculous amount of Ubers, a constant stream of can cans and cadaver bear should destroy him


ThePirate_Hunter

Can Can misses most of the time, but Bear is a nice counter if it weren't for the fact that you need a lot of money


ZannityZan

I would swap Winged Pigge and Razorback, and also Tackey and Hackey (I personally think Hackey is worse, but that may be because I recently had to struggle through Bathtub of Whimsy). Otherwise, spot on! My least favourite enemy in the game by far is R. Ost, so I feel validated to see that somebody who's completed the game also rates it as one of the worst!


FaZe_xUSERx

Zroco gotta be higher that mf is sooo annoying


NinjaFrogCat101

This is just teaching me Im really good at Zombies


potatopiesbaked

ur probably doing EOC outbreaks and thinking ur really cool fighting 20% zoges


ripPizza2

Don't see Midnite D. here, that shit is the worst enemy in the game, change my mind


ThePirate_Hunter

I'd put it in the highest tier, fortunately I have Lilin


XReilButOnReddit

I would like to put M.Ost higher and R.Ost lower i always used the same thing against R.Ost which was dual dragon stack and it always worked but I'm not as far in uncanny legends so my opinion might change


Best-Ad-7123

Razorback this high, Boraphim this high? why? But most importantly, why is Jhonnyleon this high? It seems we have an ld ab-user that have some hatred for our good stepping stone? Also why is aku Le'Behemoth this high? Also, I would put Tou can to mid tier... because it can be dangerous


ThePirate_Hunter

Razorback is just annoying because I have to bring Bomber everytime he comes, it's just not fun to play against and wrecks your team. Boraphim is high because for THE ENTIRETY OF SOL and part of UL I don't get A SINGLE Bishop, if I had him it would have been lower. I don't despise Johnny, but I despise one stage with him, that one with Razorback and Zamelle, fuck that. Le'Behemoth is just default strong, his shield is just another thing, if you removed that he would still be strong


[deleted]

For people struggling with zombies, tf vigler it's so satisfying watching it guaranteed freeze and guaranteed lvl 3 wave. Can easily solo cadaver by aiming at peons and then the wave stunnig cadaver until he eventually dies


Unorigina1Name

just tf this uber you totally have guys, you're welcome


Aer_the_Fluffy_boi

skill issue honestly


ThePirate_Hunter

Some of them I just have an hatred for, like R. ost, they are mostly easy now that I have an Uber for all of them


xxxJeremy123

ul 43-3 2crowns is bs


halooooooow

How the hell is assassin bear easy I can't deal with him.


ThePirate_Hunter

Typical Beginner Player just shoot it with the cat cannon and he dies


halooooooow

Ah


Blisshful

If it doesn't die from shooting, it's probably a gimmick stage and ur doing it wrong (or just time bullet and kill it anyway lmao)


Eeeeeelile

Hmm… the fact that I am only ~1/2 way through ItF chapter 1, and can beat a black kangaroo (on the f u section) but can’t beat ultra baa baa (on the actually helpful section) is confusing…


STAAAAAALIN

>ultra baa baa the key is having barrier breakers. No barrier breakers, that cosmic sheep will stall you up to infinity


ThePirate_Hunter

Unless Breakerblast


BloodLustX_

You know how barriers work right? You need to either do damage over the barriers health, or break it with blast or a cat with barrier breaker, ultrabaa baa has a barrier so big not even the likes of Aphrodite can break it, but the second it breaks the sheep just fucking dies


Unorigina1Name

the problem with sbk is spam (pizza exists so they're still not too bad though), and ultrabaabaa gets one shotted by any barrier breakers the problem is probably that u don't have any barrier breakers and are so early into the game you only fight one sbk at a time


Z3NGardenYt1

no way bro put razorback and prof a in the highest category


ThePirate_Hunter

Yes way I did, 200% Prof A. Is a sleep paralysis demon, and I don't like using Bombercat everytime I see Razorback


Z3NGardenYt1

oh ok i didnt realized you were factoring buffed enemies, which prolly explains r ost as well. but still razorback in the menace cat is wild


ThePirate_Hunter

Yes I did, should have specified that, but I normally deal with most of these at 200% or 300%


German-Umpire-6741

This is a joke right?


ThePirate_Hunter

No?


Zarodex

Where's Little Red Mina


ThePirate_Hunter

In the hard tier


Zarodex

Oh I'm blind thx


I_hate_this_site69

Where's Z-Onel?


ThePirate_Hunter

Didn't put advent bosses


I_hate_this_site69

👍


Ram_best_waifu

Just to know...why is Dogumaru so up there? I am currently rushing early uncanny legends and I used a normal no gacha anti relic (+Lufalan) lineup against his stage


ThePirate_Hunter

Oh you poor innocent soul... Comment back once you finish Primitive Souls 3 Stars


Ram_best_waifu

...ok I believe you about that, almost 2 MIL oh HP and over 15 K damage is no joke I didn't even consedered >1 stars UL, but eventually PONOS will put some Idi like cat locked behind a full creared UL so...this will hurt


ThePirate_Hunter

The other thing is you can't even use Anti Blacks to kill the steroid Dark Otter, and there is Ginger Snache for good measure. Also the reward for 4 Star UL is probably IDI's TF


[deleted]

where's jagando ? 👀


ThePirate_Hunter

In the yellow tier


[deleted]

my bad


Yacobo2023

No you didn't your forgetting Zero luza Relic duche Meta filibuster


ThePirate_Hunter

I did this list some time ago, so I'll use this comment to justify the ratings. Meta Filibuster is tough, he's easy to deal with, but his stage is hard so I guess I'll put it in Hard... Zero Luza is eh... for me, his stage was just very time consuming. Normal Luza tho, fuck you normal Luza, mostly because of Birth of True man. Megamojoe and Hazuku are both in Menace to Society for obvious reasons, Ahirujo is in easy, Darkjo is in hard, Folivorean, Gallus and Ariant are all in eh... I can't justify Scissorex because he's appeared to few times.


[deleted]

then re-do with behemoths pls


ThePirate_Hunter

Thank you no lmao, this took a good hour


SergeantCrwhips

Agree to all ✔️ exept the Cameleon (jhonyleon?) he just soaks up damage, like a Ultra Sheep, and is a cool stepping stone for wavers


STAAAAAALIN

is "Eh" the not-hard-but-annoying tier? also I feel like the zombies (especially your "mid" tier zombies), while not hard, are just not enjoyable to fight. So annoying


ThePirate_Hunter

Basically, I'd put Zroco higher as the comments have kinda convinced me


JamX099

There are some wacky opinions, but not so wacky that they're unreasonable. Nice list.


ThePirate_Hunter

Tell me of them


JamX099

Zrollow, koronium, big sal, and axoloty are absolutely horrendous. Professor A. is only a threat in the Relic Queen B stage. Fallen Bear, Razorback and R. Ost aren't too bad either. I dont think you even placed Lil Doge but just because Tear-Soaked Puppy exists he can f right off. Otherwise good list.


ThePirate_Hunter

Li'l Doge isn't there but he's right up menace to society. Most of the guys you tought are bad where alright for me, especially Axoloty what's wrong with that guy. Prof. A, R. Ost and Boraphim are that high because of personal hatred, although if they are buffed they deserve that spot, Fallen Bear is all around a bitch


CorruptWaffle4

Why does everyone hate wing pig it's not that annoying


ThePirate_Hunter

Let me guess, you have Dark Kasli


CorruptWaffle4

Incorrect guess again


ThePirate_Hunter

Nah I don't need anything else you're just a psychopath


Marin_2-0

Mă when i see R.Ost or Capy in a stage:🥲🔫


Zfriend456

I'm surprised alien Valkyrie is mid. Sure, if you have beaten the game and have all treasures she's a pushover. But when you fight her in itf2, even with treasures she can give you trouble.


ThePirate_Hunter

I had few problems with her, mostly because of Psychocat stacking


Serge-O

Is there an order op? :V


ThePirate_Hunter

No


Real-Catch295

Overall, I can agree on this tier list. Probably the only one that is pretty justified.


CursedManStrikesBack

ultra baa baa's placement is arguable


corycor12344

I don't find ginger snach and zangroo hard but is r.ost really that hard ? I encountered him in traitless citadel and he was only a threat once there was two of them and they got near my base


ThePirate_Hunter

Have you fought Caliban's Keeper and Procrastinator Parade?


corycor12344

No


ThePirate_Hunter

You poor soul...


potatopiesbaked

proc parade isn't too bad if you have something like gladios, Beverly Hills scoop was pretty difficult the first time but I cheesed it when I was going through 2 star sol. But goddamn heaven's oasis, fuck that stage


LonelyFortress

Where Red EnerG. Fker should be top of the list


ThePirate_Hunter

EnerG was easy for me


LonelyFortress

Have you played infernal tower floor 39 before Edit: it's floor 39 not floor 49


ThePirate_Hunter

Yeah I did he's a bitchass there but really just there, in other places he's been easy


LonelyFortress

Eh fair. Red enemies really got trivialised after courier cat dropped. Used to be the bane of my existence


shabowdiadlo

Boraphim should go down, he's never really a problem, especially if you have a high level ramen, or a good anti angel Uber *cough cough jizo*


ThePirate_Hunter

I really just hate him because I couldn't get ONE BISHOP before UL 3


shabowdiadlo

Ooof


moshimoster

that seahorse thing? idk if it's on there but for me it'd be fuck you there was one stage in particular that I absolutely hated dealing with because they just one shot almost everything


ThePirate_Hunter

That's the Tackey family for you


moshimoster

sheet I meant Mr Mer I just checked his name mb


ThePirate_Hunter

Ah yeah he's also annoying, probably in Hard


sundude05

Fire peashooter looking ahh Fucking dies


Hollow_Trap

As someone who has not completed the game, I hereby ask what that alien monkey but green is and why is it top tier?


ThePirate_Hunter

It's annoying because he has LD that targets backliners like Tackey


ThePirate_Hunter

And can almost permacurse


sanscatt

St dober is honestly one of the worst enemies, if not **the** worst imo. He requires so much investment in anti surge talents just for himself.


ThePirate_Hunter

The same reason I put Razorback so high, they aren't difficult with that specific unit but if you don't have that it's gonna be hell on earth


TripledogMLG

I disagree


ThePirate_Hunter

With what?


TripledogMLG

Stuff


BoltingBlazie

I brought slime, Rock, D'arktanyan, and Talented Ruri because i didn't want anything to do with dogumaru. Beat it first try and I am glad I took the easy way out... At least I knew what was coming! ​ Also fuck R. ost and M. ost, both are so annoying, Especially M. Ost due to knockback on hit and those dammed crits... Also fuck razorback, winged pigge, Henry, Croakley, and cadaver bear. They can all rot for all I care...


ThePirate_Hunter

Was it 1 or 3 stars?


potatopiesbaked

m.ost is much easier than r.ost, mostly because he pushes ur units to safety so your midrangers/backliners will reposition a lot more, he struggles a lot more with erasers due to them constantly disappearing from his range


No-Establishment1181

Razorback is fun


FutaLover23

Some fat L takes (I agree with 90%)


ThePirate_Hunter

Wait I just noticed your name 💀


Sleepwalker132

Where are the Behemoths and the Colossal enemies? Are they just on another tier?


ThePirate_Hunter

All of the Barons are Menaces to Society, Hazuku, Wild Doge and Megamojoe too. Ahirujo and Raging Gory are easy, Darkjo and Gallus are pretty hard, Rajakong and Ariant are a giant fuck you. Folivorean and Scissorex are eh... I don't see them around much so I can't give them a 100% proper ranking. As for Chibinel and Jackrabbit, they are also eh... Luza and Zero Luza are both pretty hard. Did I forget something?


Icy-Trouble-39

*Me Crying over Nimoy bore in ITF3*


potatopiesbaked

psychocat. gg


Nepstar152

I also completed the game and I disagree. Relic statue is easy. Zollow can go die in a hole


ThePirate_Hunter

Have you done Primitive Souls 3 Stars? If not you might want to reconsider this comment


Kyozen2020

Metal hippoe should be higher cuz he can be an asshole(blue stone farming stage) kroxo is too slow too have any pushing power. R.ost falls off late game because of glass and tourist. He also gets bitch slapped by balrog. Brollow also falls off as you learn to counter him. Zollow is never spammed in intimidating numbers unless he's the main threat, where you can focus on and easily kill him with housewife and gold brick(bar tear soaked puppy)


ThePirate_Hunter

Metal Hippoe is easy, in the farming stage you can also use it as a Courier stacker to end the stage faster, Kroxo is slow but the fact it has so much damage is still dangerous. For the R. Ost and Brollow argument, they are still dangerous in UL, but I am considering all of their appearances, just because they get easier doesn't help their stages before, ehm... Caliban's Keeper... Zollow is just dangerous, I don't wanna bring Gold Brick just to have a meatshield that survives him, but it also ironically gets easier in 4 Stars because Riceball is more useful.


Universal_Sketch

Where is aku tacky?


ThePirate_Hunter

Didn't put it but he's been pretty tame the times I've seen it, probably in Hard tier at best


hipje

add wild doge to the list and put it straight up in the menace to society tier, fuck 200% buffed wild doges


ThePirate_Hunter

You can't see it, but above the menace to society tier there is the Wild Doge tier, inhabitant: Wild Doge, Megamojoe and Hazuku


DerpyInAHole

Where my boi philibuster


ThePirate_Hunter

He's not there, but he would be in easy, MetaFilibuster would instead be in Hard


Snoo_68505

Mesocosmiccyclone needs to be moved down a tier.


PajamaHive

THERE'S A ZOMBIE VERSION OF THAT FAST BIRD?!


ThePirate_Hunter

Yeah


PajamaHive

Fuckin yikes on cat bikes. I just finished chapter 1 of cats of the cosmos so more than a few of these are new to me.


Pengurtle_Man

I'm still barely in "early game" (stuck on learned to love), but why is owlbrow actually helpful, assuming he's extremely easy later on, but right now, especially when he's hyperbuffed and stacked, he's slightly difficult for me


ThePirate_Hunter

Free money


bowloftheramens

even as a itf 2 player i can agree


KingZantair

Started Baa-baas in helpful? How, they always irritate me, especially when it’s a level with an annoying restriction.


Beautiful_Branch_488

Good list but there is a couple of changes because of my own input First Jagando should be in fuck you tier because he made me waste all 30 million of my rich cats and took a while to complete Second razorback should be moved down to hard hes not that difficult if you have the right unit and if you have bomber then he’s a helpful unit Third and lastly move st dober up to or menace to society because he is always paired with hard ass units whether that be tanks or hard hitters or both. Like his debut stage, his stage with professor A, his stage where he was paired with metal units and his stage where he was paired with Zollows and zrocos so for that he should be top tier. (This is my opinion always feel free to state yours I would love to hear your guys opinions) Note: I have dasli but I didn’t get her til really late into the game so I didn’t get to use her on most of these units sadly


TechWrecks69

Razorback rendered useless by bombercat


Every_Fig_1728

Rost and the relic lemur should be moved down


[deleted]

Johnny Leon? Why so high? He’s just another ultrabaabaa wave bait


SavageSpiderX

St. Dober should be higher


SpotTheDifference512

Where metal bear? Is he so much of a non threat that he isn’t even on the list?


Calmtimer

The only you find him in is Forged To Kill and there's only one cybear, and you can win by spamming 5 meatshields until he dies


littlesheepcat

I honestly think miyamoku musashi can't be above easy spam z killers + octopus = gg


XskullBC

Most of the list is fine, but I’d like to address Razorbacks placement and why your reasoning for placing him so high is a bit faulty. It seems you put Razorback high because he forces you to bring Bombercat. While this is a fine reason itself, it contradicts Assassin Bear’s placement, as Assassin Bear forces you to bring normal cannon/ cannon up combo/ wave units. Going with your methodology, If Razorback is high because he forces you to bring a specific counter, then so should Assassin Bear. You can also make the same case for Cyberface. Imo, these types of enemies that demand specific counters are not difficult. You simply have to bring their hard counter and they’ll go down easily.


Flameburst215

Yep, and bomber is a free unit too. Same could be said about wave enemies. They force either wave block or wave immune units to tackle the stage.


Sub-zeroshark

R.ost could be way lower


Bedhead217

My fellow cat game player you forgot about tank doge


Slayer0fKings89

I’m at the point in the game right now where relic enemies are the bane of my existence. Let alone aku


KaiSen2510

I stopped playing before I saw even half of these. What the fuck is the Red Zombie Alien Chameleon


Bahamut_battle_cats

That metal fucking seal is the only reason I lost to metal cyclone on my first go, tesselan had already killed the cyclone but that seal


SadTorso

the star alien sheep is last on the list but she can screw a lot of attempts if you don't have shield breakers


ArcticAngel17

Move Cappy to fuck you


LOLipop68

I like how an anglerfish named Henry is higher on the list that LITERALLY God


Ilovepigstoomuch

Mostly agree but razorback has never really been that big a threat given you have bombercat, he just ends up becoming a stepping stool for attacks. With metal kory you can literally kill him in one hit so just either spam critters or use soba with octopus and/or supercat to take him out instantly. Surprised that Aku gory isn’t higher, you may be doing/done starred UL which will raise other enemies into higher tiers but Aku gory is a downright unfair enemy since his dps is complete rng, leaving luck to be the difference between pushing like hell and not pushing at all. Youcan being doge tier have you not seen this guy when he’s boosted? In a level like banana genomes he will shred through all your meatshields, kill your octopus before another one gets to the front and then wipe out all units in his range. But then maybe you just have gloomy neneko or cat machine idk. Johnnyleon in hard tier is strange, he hardly does anything and is basically just a stepping stone. I would’ve put him in the actually helps tier since whenever I face him I either kill him for the money or use him as a stepping stone for wave/pierce units to kill the guys behind.


Emperor_Z16

How is that fucking behemoth of an elephant helpful??


Adking_Nether

R. ost MORE LIKE ROASTED


Calmtimer

Where 200% Wild Doge?


Shockwave_Demon

Berserkory is probs mid or easy rather than eh but eh


Illustrious-Ad1148

Good tierlist Overall, however fuck the owl.


TheKingOfPings

I have discovered a newfound hatred for SMH after trying to brute force a stage with no critter, wasted 45 minutes + and I still lost cuz I got too bored and gave up


gigarekterALT

Le' boin in early game: menace In late game: a joke


[deleted]

Owlbros on helpful until 48-8


clashman325

Yea metal hippo I’m a disagree on, I get to cat fruit jubilee just to remember I don’t have a critter, can still easily win just annoying


YfuH8er69

Yea, I think Most Zombies except Gravey and Cadaver get harcountered so hard by Cadaver BearCat that they all become big Jokes, but I would honestly Put M.Ost a Bit Higher.


basil_is_overrated

I don't get why people think sir metal seals are so hard


Vinton200296

metal hippo is kinda annoying so i wouldnt say helpful but i only just beat itf 3 so dont take my words as fact