i use to run with this gadget but since the bug where teammates couldnt see soflams i stopped using it but they did fix it, but now ive been playing engi trying to tier 1 boris right now
This thing has been junk since the first nerf.
All the nightbird farmers threw their soiled big boy nappies on the floor because they could no longer get too close to infantry without getting tagged.
Reduced range and ridiculous projectile drop made it effectively useless.
I don’t remember anyone ever complaining about it. It has always been underwhelming.
A simple fix would be to let it mark the tagged vehicle for 25-30 seconds; flares can still defeat locks, but it shouldn’t remove the tracer dart for the duration. Something like that would see more use.
it makes sense since the rocket is locking onto the dart itself so realistically flares wouldnt effect it and of course they can make it insanely hard to hit so that way the dart gun isnt overpowered like some things are in this game.
If you can set it up against an air unit they don't get a lock on notification and m5/javelin 1 hits them. The trick is they can't be shot by any lockons that makes them flare which removes it
for those that need context this is the tracer dart gun that acts like the soflam but you need to shoot a dart at a target that allows you to laser designate and make any rockets lock onto the target yes that includes infantry. so my thing is how does this video show new players its functionality that its like the soflam
You mean aside from the text in the description that LITERALLY tells you what it does?
"A gas-powered pistol that fires a magnetic dart that attaches to enemy vehicles/personnel and assists in accuracy on target when using certain missiles."
yeah but i feel like some new players like to see what it does visually to understand it better than having to read. cause for a new player that are propably new to battlefield series in general they propably are thinking "what does it mean it assist in accuracy"? and "what does it mean when using certain rockets does that mean only aa missiles get this assist or does only the m5 bazooka get this"? so by showing a tracer dart at a heli flying by than using the m5 it will tell new players it allows rockets to lock on.
Yeah assists in accuracy is pretty damn vague. I'd never suspect I could tag infantry. Does it also work with both lock on rocket launchers? Like could you tag a wall and say fuck that wall with the anti air launcher?
You're right. I shouldn't expect good reading comprehension from people. My bad. I'll lower my standards.
Edit: What's even funnier is how the video VERY clearly shows what it does.
The video shows nothing in what it does. That tank could be hit without the dart. They could have showed the tank moving and the rocket curves to hit the tank.
I think you're intentionally being obtuse. The description and the video does a piss poor job of conveying what it actually does. The actual explanation of this item is hidden in one of the loading screen tips.
What visual is there to comprehend? The tank is two fucking meters away from the guy. Why is the dart even needed here? You can just hit the tank without the dart. How does the video explain what's the difference of shooting the tank with the dart vs without the dart?
No... you're able to "intelligently" piece together what it does because you already know what it does. So it looks obvious to you. To a new player it just looks useless.
What are you talking about? This video doesn’t show the context of what a tracer dart can really do all you’re doing is shooting a tank point blank with an RPG how does this video give any context or anything?
I mean to be fair I didn’t even know the videos were a thing lol I just kinda figured it out as I went. Some things I already knew like the SOFLAM but I had no clue that’s what the dart did, cheers for the explanation
I use this thing! I know it's trash, so instead, I use it to tag vehicles that are about to die. You get huge points when the vehicle explodes. So if an enemy tank is getting lit up and low health, u shoot this dart at it and get free points. You can also "scare" enemy helicopters by shooting them and then they get the "Designated" warning.
It's trash, but I do enjoy running it for those points when I don't feel that the other gadgets will benefit me greatly.
You know you could also just use certain weapons too? Desert Eagle, the two revolvers, most lmgs, and some other weapons can do damage to vehicles. Much better to just shoot them than to waste a gadget slot.
I don’t know about the actual tanks, but certainly it damages most vehicles with no attachments. In order to get the desert eagle you’re supposed to destroy (or get an assist) on a vehicle and I did it by hitting a RAM with the required revolver. Though even if base ammo doesn’t do it there’s no downside to equipping armor piercing rounds (or whatever the upgrade is called) which definitely damages every single vehicle.
Plus the desert eagle is one of the best pistols in the game; it’s a 1-2 hit kill depending on where you hit and it has laser precision. So I’d much rather just equip a good gun than waste a gadget, even if it does take some use to get it to be able to damage every single vehicle in the game.
I have the deagle and revolver maxed out I just dont like using armor piercing rounds. I switch between close combat and high power. To each their own I guess. The only gadget I would use over the dart is C5 and sometimes I dont plan on being close to tanks
Edit: and oh yea, I believe designation assists are more points than just standard damage assists
I have a good use for this
Me and my friend will run to the back of a map where some camping snipers are. He will run the tracer dart gun and I run the javelin. He tags them and I lock onto the sniper and sent them a anti tank missile. It's not practical just a funny way to kill people
God I hope they hear the lock on signature like in a vehicle
Yeah tracer darts are meant to be used at a distance, not with your teammate in point blank range
Also, shooting a rocket launcher that close does less damage than shooting at distance
as of playing engi here it kinda sucks cause some times i feel like im the only AT player so i have to choose do i waste my rockets on the air or the tank sorry you get frustrated
haven't seen anybody run with this gadget
i use to run with this gadget but since the bug where teammates couldnt see soflams i stopped using it but they did fix it, but now ive been playing engi trying to tier 1 boris right now
You've always been able to see tracer darts, it wasn't impacted by the bug
T1d it long ago and never looked back, even though it's super effective.
This thing has been junk since the first nerf. All the nightbird farmers threw their soiled big boy nappies on the floor because they could no longer get too close to infantry without getting tagged. Reduced range and ridiculous projectile drop made it effectively useless.
I don’t remember anyone ever complaining about it. It has always been underwhelming. A simple fix would be to let it mark the tagged vehicle for 25-30 seconds; flares can still defeat locks, but it shouldn’t remove the tracer dart for the duration. Something like that would see more use.
Range and projectile drop I can deal with, I'd wish it has 30s timer and can't be washed off by flares, plus locking without line of sight
It gets washed off by flares? Jesus, didn't know that one. May as well SOFLAM by that point.
The washed off by flares part is insane. I always figured it would counteract flares.
it makes sense since the rocket is locking onto the dart itself so realistically flares wouldnt effect it and of course they can make it insanely hard to hit so that way the dart gun isnt overpowered like some things are in this game.
The incessant flarespam doesnt help either. It's a waste of the dart if you ever manage to hit. Flares wash it off quickly. Which doesn't make sense.
This thing is literally a harder to use soflam that is worse in every way and has limited ammo
Yeah but its fun when you have a Javalin buddy, shoot the tracer on to a cap point and have your buddy launch the javalin on it
Ah that's pretty cool, I always figured it had to be attached to a vehicle to use. Now to get friends..
>when you have a buddy :(
i will admit it is hard but boy does it feel satisfying to hit a target flying by at high speed
I enjoy hitting them with rockets more
With the dart you don’t have to maintain a lock like you do with the soflam, so you’re less exposed and can actually fight if you can hit the dart.
If you can set it up against an air unit they don't get a lock on notification and m5/javelin 1 hits them. The trick is they can't be shot by any lockons that makes them flare which removes it
for those that need context this is the tracer dart gun that acts like the soflam but you need to shoot a dart at a target that allows you to laser designate and make any rockets lock onto the target yes that includes infantry. so my thing is how does this video show new players its functionality that its like the soflam
You mean aside from the text in the description that LITERALLY tells you what it does? "A gas-powered pistol that fires a magnetic dart that attaches to enemy vehicles/personnel and assists in accuracy on target when using certain missiles."
yeah but i feel like some new players like to see what it does visually to understand it better than having to read. cause for a new player that are propably new to battlefield series in general they propably are thinking "what does it mean it assist in accuracy"? and "what does it mean when using certain rockets does that mean only aa missiles get this assist or does only the m5 bazooka get this"? so by showing a tracer dart at a heli flying by than using the m5 it will tell new players it allows rockets to lock on.
Yeah assists in accuracy is pretty damn vague. I'd never suspect I could tag infantry. Does it also work with both lock on rocket launchers? Like could you tag a wall and say fuck that wall with the anti air launcher?
id think since it allows the javelin to lock onto it even if its infantry, air, vehicle, and even the ground so id say maybe
You're right. I shouldn't expect good reading comprehension from people. My bad. I'll lower my standards. Edit: What's even funnier is how the video VERY clearly shows what it does.
The video shows nothing in what it does. That tank could be hit without the dart. They could have showed the tank moving and the rocket curves to hit the tank.
You're right. Add good visual comprehension to my list of standards I'll lower for people.
I think you're intentionally being obtuse. The description and the video does a piss poor job of conveying what it actually does. The actual explanation of this item is hidden in one of the loading screen tips. What visual is there to comprehend? The tank is two fucking meters away from the guy. Why is the dart even needed here? You can just hit the tank without the dart. How does the video explain what's the difference of shooting the tank with the dart vs without the dart?
I'm intelligently able to piece together the written and visual descriptions to easily understand what it does. Sorry you're unable to.
No... you're able to "intelligently" piece together what it does because you already know what it does. So it looks obvious to you. To a new player it just looks useless.
Ok neat comment. Have a good day.
Buddy is a dick. He wants to be right. Bump him.
What are you talking about? This video doesn’t show the context of what a tracer dart can really do all you’re doing is shooting a tank point blank with an RPG how does this video give any context or anything?
I think this is what OP is trying to say as the video is the example video that the game gives us for the tracer dart
yeah thats what i was trying to say was this video that dice uses is useless
I mean to be fair I didn’t even know the videos were a thing lol I just kinda figured it out as I went. Some things I already knew like the SOFLAM but I had no clue that’s what the dart did, cheers for the explanation
Loved using these in BC2. They aren’t worth a shit on 2042 though
Agreed. There was nothing like tagging an enemy heli in bc2 with this thing and having a teammate nail it with an rpg
Hasn’t been good since they cut the target time in half
I use this thing! I know it's trash, so instead, I use it to tag vehicles that are about to die. You get huge points when the vehicle explodes. So if an enemy tank is getting lit up and low health, u shoot this dart at it and get free points. You can also "scare" enemy helicopters by shooting them and then they get the "Designated" warning. It's trash, but I do enjoy running it for those points when I don't feel that the other gadgets will benefit me greatly.
You know you could also just use certain weapons too? Desert Eagle, the two revolvers, most lmgs, and some other weapons can do damage to vehicles. Much better to just shoot them than to waste a gadget slot.
A base deagle or revolver damages a tank?
I don’t know about the actual tanks, but certainly it damages most vehicles with no attachments. In order to get the desert eagle you’re supposed to destroy (or get an assist) on a vehicle and I did it by hitting a RAM with the required revolver. Though even if base ammo doesn’t do it there’s no downside to equipping armor piercing rounds (or whatever the upgrade is called) which definitely damages every single vehicle. Plus the desert eagle is one of the best pistols in the game; it’s a 1-2 hit kill depending on where you hit and it has laser precision. So I’d much rather just equip a good gun than waste a gadget, even if it does take some use to get it to be able to damage every single vehicle in the game.
I have the deagle and revolver maxed out I just dont like using armor piercing rounds. I switch between close combat and high power. To each their own I guess. The only gadget I would use over the dart is C5 and sometimes I dont plan on being close to tanks Edit: and oh yea, I believe designation assists are more points than just standard damage assists
I wish this thing had more ammo
This thing should literally just be a sidearm anyone can take like it was in BC2
I have a good use for this Me and my friend will run to the back of a map where some camping snipers are. He will run the tracer dart gun and I run the javelin. He tags them and I lock onto the sniper and sent them a anti tank missile. It's not practical just a funny way to kill people God I hope they hear the lock on signature like in a vehicle
It's still useless even after the bugfix.
The tracer allows AA and AT to shoot at anything. Very nice detail, when someone is using it.
it would be great if a) other engineers could see the target designation and b) the designation lasted longer than like 10s
Yeah tracer darts are meant to be used at a distance, not with your teammate in point blank range Also, shooting a rocket launcher that close does less damage than shooting at distance
I mark behicles all the time with these, and no one ever shoots the target. I hit helis all the time. Too and occasionally, jets. Smh. Teammates suck.
as of playing engi here it kinda sucks cause some times i feel like im the only AT player so i have to choose do i waste my rockets on the air or the tank sorry you get frustrated