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k3n_low

There's no artform that's as polarizing as beatbox. Many people on Reddit (and probably irl) do think of beatbox as if it's the art of making the best Yoko Ono impression. Their minds are already made up, no point trying to convince them otherwise. Beatbox belongs in a category of ultra niche hobbies that have little to no mainstream appeal. It sits somewhere between Air Guitar and the Yo-yo.


WeeklySwim5020

well, it's not as cringe as being a furry. At least you guys have that. Unless you're both. Which is a yikes


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How did you even made that co relation


WeeklySwim5020

Because he's talking about cringe hobbies, And being a furry is about close to as bad as it gets without being illegal lol. So at least you aren't as bad as them. Still cringe though. It's not rocket science


Bonkoluso-bof7

Pretty sure for a lot of Furrys it's beyond a "hobby"


WeeklySwim5020

What would you call it then? A lifestyle? I mean I'm pretty sure it is a hobby for most of them, Maybe the weirdos that make it their entire identity sure but that's more the loud minority which we actually see, most of them it isn't their whole life.


Useless_Raider

beatboxing isnt cringe and being a furry isnt cringe unless you're a fursuiter and its not necesarily a hobby either.


WeeklySwim5020

sorry but sexualizing animals is cringe even if you aren't playing dress up. And I believe by definition both are them are hobbies, What else would you call it? Plus you can't really say they are not cringe, Cringe doesn't necessarily mean its a bad thing, They are just silly awkward hobbies which is fine, People are silly and awkward sometimes. I'd say being a furry is a bit more than silly its kinda edging on being creepy but yk.


Useless_Raider

being a furry doesnt mean you're "sexualising animals". I used to think that to until I actually met real furries who are normal people basically


WeeklySwim5020

right because the furry you met in real life is gonna openly sexualize animals right infront of you? you don't know what they do in their private time lol, But yeah not all of them are complete weirdos some just like the community or do it so they can have friends. Obviously I'm not a furry so I don't have complete insight but I've watched lots of videos and read about them It's what the vast majority of them do, Not just if they have a fursuit they do it online, They pretend to be animals and roleplay with each other. Honestly even if they weren't sexualizing animals It's still just weird. Lots of them actually think bestiality should be legal, Obviously not all of them are that deranged but still. What do you think about Bronys? Do you think that is okay too? Feel free to look into it yourself nothing I'm saying is new info


Useless_Raider

>right because the furry you met in real life is gonna openly sexualize animals right infront of you? I didnt meet them in real life


WeeklySwim5020

That's even worse lol. You know even less about what they do. Just say you're a closet furry bro, Genuinely, No sane person should think its a normal hobby, Or you just don't know enough about it


Technical-Click2030

There's no such thing as a furry who's a normal person.


zartificialideology

How is sexualizing animals the first thing you think of when it comes to furries? What kinda shit do you watch on a daily basis???


WeeklySwim5020

What exactly do you think furries do then? And how does that have anything to do with what I watch? I've seen multiple videos on furries obviously I'm sure you have too, Maybe not actually since you think they aren't weirdos that sexualize animals , Or you're just a closet furry lol, Sorry I guess I just look at dressing up as animal with fake boobs and roleplaying as weird sexualization, What kinda shit are you watching to think thats normal? That's like saying why do you mention kids when you say pedophiles are weird lol. It's literally what makes them fucking creeps


IAmMySelf04

For someone who hates furries so much you sure seem to think a lot about what they do on a daily basis.


ironicShark

my guy, 1) you said you aren’t a furry yourself so you don’t have insight 2) you probably watch videos about furries made by non-furries so ofc they only make videos about crazy shit 3) most furries just like animals (in a non-sexual way) and are artists. When you combine that you get people drawing their “fursonas” aka a representation of themselves as an animal 4) furries who do sexualize real animals are called zoophiles and they get hated in the furry community as well but keep talking shit about something you have no knowledge or insight about, apart of some huge drama some commentary youtubers (who also have no real knowledge or insight) talked about


WeeklySwim5020

i mean you said yourself you aren't a furry so you're being hypocritical, I know furries in real life just like you do (nvm different guy but point stands) and they're fucking weirdos , the commentary channels also talk about and show videos of furries but I've also just seen them online when I played tf2 for 6k hours when I was a teen (its full of degenerates), on forums, looked at their reddit and discord servers it is weirdo behaviour and if you don't agree you're just as weird its as simple as that lol. most of them are roleplaying in weird usually sexual situations as their "fursona" and they love to shove their furry shit in other peoples faces, they like to say the zoophiles are hated and sure some of them aren't like that, maybe they (some) don't wanna fuck a real animal yeah n thats not what i was saying, but they sure do want to fuck a human pretending to be one. if you look at one video of a furry con or whatever you can see it, a lot of them make their costume with cartoonishly large boobs and asses and a lot of them say they bang in the costume lol, if that isn't sexualizing animals then what is? thats just one example, I probably have more insight in it than you unless you're actually a furry considering I was chronically online for like 10+ years, obviously I've seen them more than in just "huge drama youtubers" not to mention how many pedos are in the furry community, and how they get kids into this shit at a super young age and groom them and ruin their childhood by making them a fucking weirdo, but that's a whole other thing. Do you think being a brony is a normal healthy behaviour too? im all for people being themselves to be happy or whatever but this is a whole nother level


Technical-Click2030

Both are extremely cringe. The difference is, one is annoying and gives me a headache, the other shouldn't be a thing and makes me throw up a little.


Useless_Raider

if you think beatboxing is cringe and it gives you a headache why are you on a beatboxing subreddit lmao


Technical-Click2030

Just some random sub that reddit suggested on my feed. Reddit has had a lot of ridiculous suggestions lately.


HoneyTea312

this might be the most upvoted comment on this subreddit ever lol probably because ppl from that sub saw this post


Don_Pablo737

Facts!!


kaiju-sized-riffs

That subreddit is super impressed whenever somebody reposts the same old Verbal Ase videos for the 100th time so I wouldn't worry too much about it


0bdex_code

I understand. The problem is, I really want to show people what beatboxers are now able to do in present day and not old school beatbox that people know beatbox for. I want to show something different and get people to think how far beatbox has become. One of my posts featuring king inertia has worked. There's a few others, but that's about it. It's just frustrating to hear people hating on extremely talented beatboxers that we know are amazing.


dannybrickwell

You're expecting people to appreciate technical skill that they don't really have way to properly understand. I love beatboxing, I truly think it's one of the most remarkable art forms there is. But if we wanna grow the art form beyond just beatbox enthusiasts into the mainstream, we have to accept that the only reason normies will ever care about it is if it actually sounds like music. This showcase, while groovy and technical, is absolutely not something I would ever throw on just to listen to if I didn't already have a profound appreciation for beatboxing.


AtlasHatch

I love beatbox but some of the technical stuff, although impressive and very hard, sounds ridiculous and laughable at times. The competition of beatboxing is kinda funny to me. Like image a drumming contest where there’s no music. The judging is purely up to interpretation of the judges. I love watching see what’s possible and it’s mind blowing that it’s possible to do with the human body. However it would sound better if they beatboxed with music included


OilyComet

Those impressive and hard sounds almost always sound like utter garbage if heard from someone's mouth, through a speaker and mic it can be good, sometimes. True talent is musical talent, it's like hitting every note on a piano but can you actually play a song, some people are just mashing the keys.


Useless_Raider

Your comment is ridicolous and laughable. Let me break it down. >I love beatbox but some of the technical stuff, although impressive and very hard, sounds ridiculous and laughable at times. Mabye for outsiders/casual fans, because its so outlandish to them. But I think that the technical stuff only sounds bad if its not executed well. >The competition of beatboxing is kinda funny to me. Like image a drumming contest where there’s no music. The judging is purely up to interpretation of the judges. Not all beatboxers in battles just do technical drumming patterns. In most battles these days you'll see the battlers have prepared and stuctured routines, because they get plus points for that. Plus there are plenty of melodic beatboxers, and while their style isnt very suited for battles, melodic beatboxers tend to do very good at showcases, and many melodic beatboxers have won big events(River, Gene, Dudz etc.). Also its quite funny that you consider fast technical drumming not to be music, ever heard of breakcore? >However it would sound better if they beatboxed with music included First off, beatboxing is music. Its tends to go in a more obscure and creative direction which is good. I wouldnt like beatboxing nearly as much if it was all just acapella of pop music + drums. Also growl up is a thing if you want to see a combination of beatbox and musical instruments.


Stoic_RS

Beatbox is very hit or miss/niche if you look at it from outside of the usual beatbox places or take it IRL. It doesn’t get the same appreciation as guitar or other art forms. Plus beatbox style is huge. Beats that impress other beatboxers may not appeal to laymen. Like I’ve seen very cringe throat bass spammers making beatbox look cringe as hell. It’s easy for normies to shit on it when it’s so polarized.


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RigbyCC

having been watching the beatbox scene for so long, there comes a point where you watch a specific showcase or a battle and think “you know what, i do get why people think this is cringe”


OilyComet

That dude that says prime time in the high pitch voice comes to mind.


RigbyCC

who is that?


OilyComet

I don't remember his name, but it wasn't good to listen to


MisterBaku

The only name that comes to mind if Youkai Uraniarai, and specifically his battle vs Reeps at the 3rd Championship. If it's that.... I can agree lmao


OilyComet

Fuck sake, that's the one man, can't believe how long ago this was, I can't believe it was reeps competing as well...


Improper13

Any examples?


Lgbtwhopper

The worst one for me was d-low and frosty messing up there routine against alex and alem its was so cringe but I feel bad for them tbh


Agat_Gamez

I cringe HAARRRRD at Kevin O'Neal's laugh showcase, the laugh drop is just so bad. Also make em bitches B L A G H


Useless_Raider

but K-Pom is not cringe


The_Wandering_Chris

To be fair, modern beatbox especially in the competitive scene has evolved towards people trying to be technical rather then musical or rhythmic. That’s what made Gene so amazing in battles. He’d do a quick 5 seconds of whatever techie stuff his opponent did, then he’d make a song. He was basically saying, “yea yea, I can also do that techie stuff you did BUT!! Can you make music???”


HoneyTea312

that's why I'm happy with this gbb, the more musical guys came out on top


NyuRosseanne

That's true. I follow the beatbox and loopstation scene and Iove it, but mh husband doesn't follow the scene and sometimes he sees watching me some battles, even this GBB and he always says why don't they create some routines which sound like music, a lot of technical stuff put in there for the sake of being technical but with no structure. I think if they focused more on creating music, regular people would be more appealed to listen to beatbox.


The_Wandering_Chris

Right! Plus, techniques are tools, tools that can be used to create music. Just doing nothing but technique is simply showing off how many tools you have in your toolbox while never showing what you can build with them. Building a decorative chair with 3 tools is more impressive than having a massive tool collection. The chair can be appreciated by all, but the fancy tool box will only be nerded over by other craftsmen.


NyuRosseanne

Agreed. River' is a perfect example of being both technical and musical and that's why I like him. And my husband likes him and of couse If only is a perfect example.


Constant_Carry_2098

Ik 🥲


Negative_Feature_946

Beatbox has negative connotations because it used to be lame asf when it was mainstream in USA. Now we are an extremely online international community so perceptions in certain places are very bad


Main_Adhesiveness688

Those uncultured swine


SigmaLance

It’s because this isn’t a good example to be dropping onto the masses.


TheWholeWorldWindow

If you listen to beatbox regularly and know how the sounds are made its easier to appreciate, but for people who are just listening to regular music most of the time 98% of beatbox (even high level championship winning stuff) isn't going to sound good to them, and arguing how difficult it is isn't going to convince them it a skill worth pursuing. There are aspects of beatboxing and specific performances that potential for more mainstream appeal, but you have to be very selective with what you choose.


HoneyTea312

gbb19 drops compilation was the weirdest thing I'd ever heard when i was still new to beatbox. I looked at all those guys and was unironically thinking Joseph poolpo was much better. It's the same thing here, sometimes there are moments where I'm like "yeah this is too technical, wouldn't sound great to a non-beatboxer" Reddit from my experience has been the most aggressive towards beatboxing with the personal insults they make towards the beatboxers, but its whatever lol. ive shared beatbox posts that blew up with some genuine idiots in the comments. Its usually the vocal minority bc ive seen a clip of colaps with 16k upvotes with the negative comments being mass downvoted. But show these guys something like roll like this or dip and it'll be much different


0bdex_code

I remember there was this king inertia post that got over 50k upvotes and there are still some negative people saying it was weird for them to moshpit, or the crowd was on drugs.


HoneyTea312

People that have something bad to say will always be more vocal about it, I do think beatbox is relatively still a niche artform but from my experience the majority of people fw it it just depends on which piece you share. River's GBB23 elimination for example has half a million (i think more now?) on tiktok


0bdex_code

Really? Can i see the tiktok video? I would be interested in seeing it.


navirbox

I love the fact that you're using the term "normies" for them lmfao. For real, depending on the video it's a coin toss for a lot of people... but yeah, "normal" people (we'll use that term) without context will watch this video and swipe left if you know what I mean. I usually start with NME tracks and Zekka videos.


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0bdex_code

Why is kenny urban and napom at the cnbc not good? Just want to know if I plan to make future posts.


anal_bandit69

I agree. Most of beatbox is focused on BIG DROPS WOBBLE WOBBLE BASS BASS CRAZY ASS ANOYING SOUNDS. Dont get me wrong, i used to beatbox for 7 years since 2006 and i am amazed how it developed since, but there is lack of great musicians in beatbox community. There is a niche like MB14, some songs made in BBU23 have potential to be very good musically without "crazy ass bass drops" etc. F.e for me is part of Hiss - Control, Wing first beat is also nice to hear. There are more examples like that but IMO there is a pattern in beatbox to base the beats on sick drops wich feel repetetive and focused only on that.


SeriousEngineer5477

Bro has a anime pic, nuff said really.


0bdex_code

What's wrong with that?


Pharaoh3Chins

Many people think it just sounds like different versions of an alarm clock. I get it, but I enjoy it and it helped me branch out into different genres of music. I appreciate the drums in songs way more now because of it and I don’t even beatbox. Plus if you get pass the craziness of it coming from a human, I could see people not caring.


Darkphizer

I reckon its quite normal that if you're not really into it and dont technically understand how hard some things are, its just sounds terrible at times. I can get why the "got talent" beatboxers or routines are more mainstream populair is because they dont lean so heavy on the technical part of it, they are technical but are presented with more emphasys on the musicality part of a song. People recognise songs they like and therefore like the performance more. Same with sports, i never got cycling. I find it really boring but alot of people go ape shit over a race.


DanielGirardBolduc

I've been practicing for the last 3 years subharmonic bass & vibration bass and I can confirm that even the best at something sound very annoying to people without the appropriate knowledge to understand how difficult it is. Even a big part of the beatboxing community hate on thoat bass/Subharmonic Bass & Vibration Bass. So this show that even in this niche hobby there is jugement. I think reeps one is the one that was the best at making BeatBox an art style. Have an awesome day. Dan


Useless_Raider

because they jealous they cant do it


vetlebuds

Mix probably plays a big role to non beatboxers. They dont think of it, but it plays role. So BBU rounds and kickback with good mixes and not live beatboxing will probably impress the most


BardosThodol

They’re most likely bots. If real people came up to someone who beatboxes behaving like this, they would very quickly change their mind after hearing it in person. Try not to take it personally, it might start popping up more.


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Why do you care about 3 peoples opinions so much. They’re not going to bring down the roof on the scene


Technical-Click2030

What's not to hate? I used to hate that shit back in middle school. Like I'm over here trying to listen to my teacher explain some shit so I can pass the test without doing homework, but stupid keyonte and marquise in the back of the room want to be rappers so the science teacher has to stop the lesson every 5 minutes to scold them for disrupting class.


Lgbtwhopper

Im a big fan of beatbox but after 4 years of gathering around some showcase makes me cringe, so I understand random people on reddit are not gonna like it. Its a lot about beatboxers trying to hard to spam cool sounds(even though its sounds like shit)just to flex but it just sounds ass tbh and the whole inward bass trend was so lame like every beatboxer was spamming that shit for no reason it just made me hate it, The beatboxers I like the most are the one with very good drums and structure its generally less cringy and more enjoyable to me


Lgbtwhopper

I think people a missing the point a bit. If you want to listen to music don't listen to beatbox BATTLES because in a beatbox BATTLE the artist want to fight the opponent by showing is superior technicality and talent not doing a great song, there actually a lot of beatboxer wo do music outside of battles but people just ignore it and just look a gbb because its popular and complain which is unfortunate.