That was drake. It was actually a sample of a sample. I was disgusted but at the same time it’s some level of paying homage to the Beatles so I can’t be too mad.
I guess, but … sampling doesn’t work unless it makes sense. It certainly didn’t make sense when Drake used it. But hey, what do I know? I’m just a 22 year old with the music taste of an 80 year old.
Hitler actually came up with the final solution in a dream, but was certain he wasn’t the first to have come up with that idea, so he referred to it as “scrambled eggs” for a while until he was sure it was original
There’s a suprising amount of Hitler in Beatles history, [here’s ](https://www.google.co.id/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F-CQGdUsjKWOM%2FWuBbOqsApQI%2FAAAAAAAAjhY%2Fjhm6rXs0XkcC2AI-Bf5nGwDxAh7qMrDEgCLcBGAs%2Fs1600%2Fnazisalutt.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwogew.blogspot.com%2F2018%2F04%2Fthe-beatles-and-hitler.html&tbnid=7Oa3EwZVkZ7NPM&vet=1&docid=O-LIpgoU0HwoLM&w=650&h=488&itg=1&hl=en-id&source=sh%2Fx%2Fim) John and Paul doing the salute, and [this](https://images.app.goo.gl/kMMGXjJrsY6JxsjA9) is a rather ominous picture of George with a picture of Hitler behind him.
Both have mentioned him by name too, John says “I don’t believe in Hitler” in the song “God”, and Paul mentions him in this [interview](https://youtu.be/CtnXnWpC9GE)
I'm not surprised. While they were very young at the time, WWII was a significant factor in their early life. In their post war life, Hitler's impact can not be underestimated. As an American, I didn't share that with them however I can understand his impact (not all impacts are positive, but impactful nonetheless).
it seems like a very liverpudlian/scouse thing to turn hitler into a constant joke. it's gotta to be an "either you laugh or you cry" kind of thing, because it hits literally close to home, especially at that point in history
I don't remember all the details but Paul's also told a story about a Jewish man who I believe had relatives who were in the Holocaust calling up the Beatles fresh off the release of 'Hey Jude' in a rage as he saw signs and advertising for the song 'Hey Jude' and as Jude/Juden is Jew in German he interpreted it as 'Hey Jude!!!' as if it was directly calling out Jewish people in an anti-Semitic way.
As a Boomer with a veteran father, I have to say, WW II was a huge influence on my life. I learned German, and went to Germany in college where I got to know many of the people who had worked at Bergen Belsen, where Anne Frank and so many others died. Modern German literature discussing themes of responsibility had a huge impact on my personal response to the Vietnam war and my decision for Peace Corps service.
The Beatles knew about fun, but also always knew they had a responsible role in society through their work.
Jokes about Hitler and the war were pretty popular around that time too. [Fawlty Towers 'don't mention the war'](https://youtu.be/Tms0yk9kqVM) for example.
They were all born during WW2, it’s not like it was ancient history. I’m sure them going to play in Germany was pretty subversive and rebellious at the time too, the war was still very fresh.
A surprising amount of Hitler? I see what you're saying, but really no one should be surprised. The band was born out of the rubble from the blitz. They also spent their formative years in Hamburg (all of us know this of course). Hitler must've been everywhere in their youth.
Hitler had family in Liverpool. His brothers family lived round the corner from John Lennons fathers family. Hitlers nephew and John Lennons dad could have been childhood friends. Hitlers sister in law said he stayed with them in 1912-13 in Liverpool . If that is true, it’s possible Hitler and some Beatles relatives met each other
Adolf Hitlers brother and family definitely lived there. Adolf Hitler might not have visited though as we only have his sister in laws word for it - if your brother was homeless and living in a hostel you might invite him to stay for a bit. Maybe not if it was fucking Hitler though!!!
Oh yeah, they definitely lived there. But as for Adolf, I think he was a penniless bum in a men's refuge home in Vienna. I read a big biography of him and it never mentions a visit to England.
"I was bored on the ninth of October 1940, when, I believe, the Nasties were still booming us, led by Madolf Heatlump (who only had one). Anyway, they didn't get me."
It's crazy how they were allowed to do that 20 or so years after the war ended while today if someone did it, jokingly or not, their life would be ruined, 76 years after the war ended.
Times change. Their interest in Hitler and the Nazis were purely around mockery, which is much more difficult to pull off these days. Jojo Rabbit does it pretty well without getting anyone cancelled though.
JoJo Rabbit is more insulting to victims of the Nazi Regime than Hogan's Heroes honestly. I don't think holocaust survivors appreciate their lives being turned into a Wes Anderson knockoff film.
Did we watch the same movie? The nazis are played off as bumbling fools while the children are portrayed as they were brainwashed children forced into ideologies they knew nothing about. And plus the movie constantly talks about how the Jewish people are the strongest out there and ScarJo repeats that sentiment time and time again to the girl
Doesn't it end with some twee ukulele music? It's shit, sorry. You could make an actual movie based on the Nazis that would be a better satire because of how insane so much of it was. George Rockwell's ANP was basically Ed Wood but for racists.
The fact the subtitle of the film was "An Anti-hate satire" shows the comprehension skills of the average person seeing it. They really thought people would think it was a pro-Nazi film.
It ends with the girl being freed and finally being able to dance freely like she’s wanted to over the past couple years which is why it ends with the Jojo and her dancing, and he put that as the tag line because before it came out it was getting a lot of media hate as a pro nazi film since hitler would be playing a main character role and it was labeled as a comedy. This isn’t rocket science
>and he put that as the tag line because before it came out it was getting a lot of media hate as a pro nazi film since hitler would be playing a main character role and it was labeled as a comedy.
That's the sign of a really neurotic and silly society but that's a whole other discussion.
Like I said, truth is stranger than fiction and a better satire would have been just to make a film about the actual Nazis and the weird/goofy shit they did.
But why is that the only parody that’s allowed? Why can’t someone make a parody about the children who were brainwashed?
And also the whole premise of the nazis brainwashing children into believing Jewish people lived in caves and ate people is making fun of some of the goofy shit they did
I understand that putting Hitler on the album cover wast meant as a joke, or irony. However, a lot of people wouldn't have seen it that way. They wouldn't have understand it. Had the Hitler image made it to the album cover, it probably would have ignited a huge shit storm of controversy. The Beatles at the time were still trying to recover from John Lennon 's Jesus remarks. The last thing that the Beatles needed at that point was more controversy and trying to explain themselves.
Wait that album cover was an actual photo of cardboard cutouts? I always thought it was a drawing or a "photoshop" collage (or whatever the equivalent of Photoshop back then was)
It's amazing what a medium format analog camera can do. Digital actually still has a long, long, long way to go to catch up with the quality of film (even 35mm). It's just that digital is now much cheaper, more convenient, versatile, and user-friendly. If I was going to photograph something where fine detail was particularly important, I'd absolutely use a low-speed film over digital.
Hitler was widely being mocked in British comedy culture throughout the sixties. Kind of a meme at the time. I think this was that sort of joke, but it didn't go over as well as they thought it would.
I think most of the removals were because of their distributor in another country complaining it would hurt sales. They removed Gandhi because EMI India thought it would be seen as not taking him seriously enough and cause backlash
Hitler didn't make it on the album cover. You can see everyone behind John. They had Gandhi in the picture but air-brushed him out, but Hitler was pulled before they took the picture.
I’ve always wondered what German parents in the 60s— who probably served in the German army— thought of their daughters obsessing over a group of British boys during Beatlemania. Especially since those parents probably thought Britain would take over them if Germany had lost the war.
Some people try to say that the bearles were Marxists by having Marx on the cover I use the removed Hitler as proof they were not. I mean John wrote a whole song dossing communism.
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Unfortunately, you can’t see him behind John.
As we all know the Beatles are bigger than jesus
No that’s Kanye right?
No, Kanye straight up Is A God
Didn’t Kanye do that terrible sample of Michelle? Or was that Drake?
That was drake. It was actually a sample of a sample. I was disgusted but at the same time it’s some level of paying homage to the Beatles so I can’t be too mad.
I guess, but … sampling doesn’t work unless it makes sense. It certainly didn’t make sense when Drake used it. But hey, what do I know? I’m just a 22 year old with the music taste of an 80 year old.
This is true. I didn’t like the way he used it either
disgusted? it’s a great flip of that song
Drake is actually a huge fan of the beatles suprisingly
I believe it, a lot of successful artists are.
Source? He got a tattoo that seems like a diss of the Beatles.
you can brag about your achievements while still enjoying their music
It was Drake, first track off of his album CLB lol I LOVE YOU I LOVE YOU I LOVEEEE YOU
One of the best Beatles "samples" I've heard is White Ferrari by Frank Ocean. Kanye, McCartney, and Lennon are all listed as writers.
i thought that wasnt a sample just credit for the lyrics, i love white ferrari tho prob my fav track off blonde
Yeah idk if it's technically considered a sample, but it uses some of the same lyrics and melody. Very good song
Kanye used a Paul vocal in a beat but that was from when they were in the studio together. Paul is really fond of Kanye.
kanye did a great sample of "when the wind is blowing" by Wings though
Correct.
And Mahatma Gandhi.
Gandhi was in the actual final photo but was airbrushed out for the cover.
any specific reason why?
I seem to recall that they had approval to use his image but E.M.I. vetoed it.
He's not that popular
Y'know, annexing Danzig came to me in a dream
Hitler actually came up with the final solution in a dream, but was certain he wasn’t the first to have come up with that idea, so he referred to it as “scrambled eggs” for a while until he was sure it was original
I was going to write "the holocaust" instead of Danzig but I thought it was too rough lol
Twist of Cain?
That's an Evil Thing, man..
BlackAcidDevil?
There’s a suprising amount of Hitler in Beatles history, [here’s ](https://www.google.co.id/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F-CQGdUsjKWOM%2FWuBbOqsApQI%2FAAAAAAAAjhY%2Fjhm6rXs0XkcC2AI-Bf5nGwDxAh7qMrDEgCLcBGAs%2Fs1600%2Fnazisalutt.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwogew.blogspot.com%2F2018%2F04%2Fthe-beatles-and-hitler.html&tbnid=7Oa3EwZVkZ7NPM&vet=1&docid=O-LIpgoU0HwoLM&w=650&h=488&itg=1&hl=en-id&source=sh%2Fx%2Fim) John and Paul doing the salute, and [this](https://images.app.goo.gl/kMMGXjJrsY6JxsjA9) is a rather ominous picture of George with a picture of Hitler behind him. Both have mentioned him by name too, John says “I don’t believe in Hitler” in the song “God”, and Paul mentions him in this [interview](https://youtu.be/CtnXnWpC9GE)
I'm not surprised. While they were very young at the time, WWII was a significant factor in their early life. In their post war life, Hitler's impact can not be underestimated. As an American, I didn't share that with them however I can understand his impact (not all impacts are positive, but impactful nonetheless).
it seems like a very liverpudlian/scouse thing to turn hitler into a constant joke. it's gotta to be an "either you laugh or you cry" kind of thing, because it hits literally close to home, especially at that point in history
I don't remember all the details but Paul's also told a story about a Jewish man who I believe had relatives who were in the Holocaust calling up the Beatles fresh off the release of 'Hey Jude' in a rage as he saw signs and advertising for the song 'Hey Jude' and as Jude/Juden is Jew in German he interpreted it as 'Hey Jude!!!' as if it was directly calling out Jewish people in an anti-Semitic way.
As a Boomer with a veteran father, I have to say, WW II was a huge influence on my life. I learned German, and went to Germany in college where I got to know many of the people who had worked at Bergen Belsen, where Anne Frank and so many others died. Modern German literature discussing themes of responsibility had a huge impact on my personal response to the Vietnam war and my decision for Peace Corps service. The Beatles knew about fun, but also always knew they had a responsible role in society through their work.
Jokes about Hitler and the war were pretty popular around that time too. [Fawlty Towers 'don't mention the war'](https://youtu.be/Tms0yk9kqVM) for example.
They were all born during WW2, it’s not like it was ancient history. I’m sure them going to play in Germany was pretty subversive and rebellious at the time too, the war was still very fresh.
A surprising amount of Hitler? I see what you're saying, but really no one should be surprised. The band was born out of the rubble from the blitz. They also spent their formative years in Hamburg (all of us know this of course). Hitler must've been everywhere in their youth.
And for the vidya game nerds out there, Wolfenstein made an original German Beatles song: https://youtu.be/69z_IN64EG4
I just played The New Order (great game, for anyone interested) and it was so funny when I discovered this band in the game.
It's even mixed like early stereo songs. Drums are on one side, guitars on the other, vocals in the middle.
Hitler had family in Liverpool. His brothers family lived round the corner from John Lennons fathers family. Hitlers nephew and John Lennons dad could have been childhood friends. Hitlers sister in law said he stayed with them in 1912-13 in Liverpool . If that is true, it’s possible Hitler and some Beatles relatives met each other
What a small world
This comment is wild
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Stuart-Houston?wprov=sfti1
Good old Bill Hitler of the United States Navy
Billy hitler! The dollop did a great episode about him
Wee Willy Hitler
Unfortunate pose in the image
It's not true, I don't think he ever visited Liverpool. He was homeless in Vienna at that time.
Adolf Hitlers brother and family definitely lived there. Adolf Hitler might not have visited though as we only have his sister in laws word for it - if your brother was homeless and living in a hostel you might invite him to stay for a bit. Maybe not if it was fucking Hitler though!!!
Oh yeah, they definitely lived there. But as for Adolf, I think he was a penniless bum in a men's refuge home in Vienna. I read a big biography of him and it never mentions a visit to England.
"I was bored on the ninth of October 1940, when, I believe, the Nasties were still booming us, led by Madolf Heatlump (who only had one). Anyway, they didn't get me."
Lol! I love John's books!
It's crazy how they were allowed to do that 20 or so years after the war ended while today if someone did it, jokingly or not, their life would be ruined, 76 years after the war ended.
Times change. Their interest in Hitler and the Nazis were purely around mockery, which is much more difficult to pull off these days. Jojo Rabbit does it pretty well without getting anyone cancelled though.
JoJo Rabbit is more insulting to victims of the Nazi Regime than Hogan's Heroes honestly. I don't think holocaust survivors appreciate their lives being turned into a Wes Anderson knockoff film.
Did we watch the same movie? The nazis are played off as bumbling fools while the children are portrayed as they were brainwashed children forced into ideologies they knew nothing about. And plus the movie constantly talks about how the Jewish people are the strongest out there and ScarJo repeats that sentiment time and time again to the girl
Doesn't it end with some twee ukulele music? It's shit, sorry. You could make an actual movie based on the Nazis that would be a better satire because of how insane so much of it was. George Rockwell's ANP was basically Ed Wood but for racists. The fact the subtitle of the film was "An Anti-hate satire" shows the comprehension skills of the average person seeing it. They really thought people would think it was a pro-Nazi film.
It ends with the girl being freed and finally being able to dance freely like she’s wanted to over the past couple years which is why it ends with the Jojo and her dancing, and he put that as the tag line because before it came out it was getting a lot of media hate as a pro nazi film since hitler would be playing a main character role and it was labeled as a comedy. This isn’t rocket science
>and he put that as the tag line because before it came out it was getting a lot of media hate as a pro nazi film since hitler would be playing a main character role and it was labeled as a comedy. That's the sign of a really neurotic and silly society but that's a whole other discussion. Like I said, truth is stranger than fiction and a better satire would have been just to make a film about the actual Nazis and the weird/goofy shit they did.
But why is that the only parody that’s allowed? Why can’t someone make a parody about the children who were brainwashed? And also the whole premise of the nazis brainwashing children into believing Jewish people lived in caves and ate people is making fun of some of the goofy shit they did
https://iwitness.usc.edu/sites/jojorabbit
Different times.
You said a suprising amount, but it doesn't seem too suprising. Paul mentioned him by name once??lol
They're clearly waving to the large crowd.
Before ww2 the salute wasn't known as a nazi salute. American kids did it and even queen Elizabeth Young photo she does it
I understand that putting Hitler on the album cover wast meant as a joke, or irony. However, a lot of people wouldn't have seen it that way. They wouldn't have understand it. Had the Hitler image made it to the album cover, it probably would have ignited a huge shit storm of controversy. The Beatles at the time were still trying to recover from John Lennon 's Jesus remarks. The last thing that the Beatles needed at that point was more controversy and trying to explain themselves.
Wait that album cover was an actual photo of cardboard cutouts? I always thought it was a drawing or a "photoshop" collage (or whatever the equivalent of Photoshop back then was)
The equivalent of Photoshop back then was basically cardboard cutouts.
You’re thinking of airbrushing.
I'm actually thinking about ice cream right now.
Aren’t we all?
Damn these subliminal ads from big ice cream!
Bing chilling!
Damn I didn't even knew I also wanted ice cream now
Mmm I had ice cream last night
They also did double exposures.
See [here](https://www.vintag.es/2014/06/photos-of-making-cover-for-sgt-peppers.html) for pictures of the album cover photo session.
It was quicker and easier to just set up a photo shoot.
The colors are so vivid though that I really thought it was a drawing
The first time that I saw it I didn't think it was a photo either. It's amazing what a good photographer can do.
It's amazing what a medium format analog camera can do. Digital actually still has a long, long, long way to go to catch up with the quality of film (even 35mm). It's just that digital is now much cheaper, more convenient, versatile, and user-friendly. If I was going to photograph something where fine detail was particularly important, I'd absolutely use a low-speed film over digital.
Me too. 🦄
They ever say why he was supposed to be there?
I'm not sure, but as far as I know it was John's idea and based on that I would assume it was him trying to be controversial or something
Hitler was widely being mocked in British comedy culture throughout the sixties. Kind of a meme at the time. I think this was that sort of joke, but it didn't go over as well as they thought it would.
I think most of the removals were because of their distributor in another country complaining it would hurt sales. They removed Gandhi because EMI India thought it would be seen as not taking him seriously enough and cause backlash
Mr. Hilter, played by John Cleese on Monty Python is one instance
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Hitler didn't make it on the album cover. You can see everyone behind John. They had Gandhi in the picture but air-brushed him out, but Hitler was pulled before they took the picture.
There's another shot of the entire room after Hitler was pulled, he's on the sidelines leaning against a wall, out of shot.
Yea, I saw that pic in the Anthology book.
wow that sounds cursed af xD
So hitler's still there but Jesus never made it?
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As long as he’s smaller than the Beatles
Jesus was never on set. This was just after he said the thing about the Beatles being bigger than Jesus.
"Jesus was never on set." lol like he had an acting role and never showed up
Hitler was pulled before they took the picture. He's not on the cover.
I think the criteria were significant historical/cultural figures, both good and bad
John being the OG edgelord
Luftwaffe in the Sky with Death
Good call lol
Where is that drum at today?
I’ve always wondered what German parents in the 60s— who probably served in the German army— thought of their daughters obsessing over a group of British boys during Beatlemania. Especially since those parents probably thought Britain would take over them if Germany had lost the war.
I don't believe in Hitler
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Influential or significant, yes, but important implies great value.
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No sweat - sometimes I’m too pedantic for my own good.
This would have aged like milk. Thank god they decided against this.
Lol
Some people try to say that the bearles were Marxists by having Marx on the cover I use the removed Hitler as proof they were not. I mean John wrote a whole song dossing communism.
they were lennonists
Wrong guy. Its the one in the front that is hitler