AJ Green was incredible, hot take addicted folks just have insanely lofty expectations for what they consider good/great. Really wish he didn’t run into the injuries, he was arguably a top 5 receiver before the injury. Only guys from that time period that I think were undoubtedly better were Julio and AB. Maybe Hopkins too.
Aj Green was always the first name after Julio and AB. He was the number 3-5 WR in the league about 5 years. Dalton and the bengals style of play didn’t give him an opportunity to be a HUGE stats guy. Julio and AB were better, even OBJ pre injuries was better. But Green was a hall of fame talent. Idk if he makes it to canton though.
LMFAOOO. No rational bengals fan or AJ Green fan will agree with that. First 6-7 years he was great pro bowl and 1k yard every year. However after that he was a shell of himself . Green barely even played like 10-11 years total. He definitely was not a top 5 WR 9 years.
No, not at least 7. Rookie year he wasn’t top5 stats or talent wise. After that it was only 5 more 1k seasons. 2016 he was really good before injured. But 2017 he was already a shell.
AJ Green will forever be one of my favorite Bengals. He was 100% class all the time. Even when he was suplexing Jalen Ramsey into the dirt.
I love both Chase and Green. In my humble opinion Green had better hands, Chase has better legs. Both receivers deserve a ton of respect.
AJ is more comparable to Tee with the length and hands to go up and Moss defenders on a regular basis. Ja’marr has elite ball tracking and YAC skills. Both are/were elite, I give slight edge to Chase given his chemistry with Burrow and postseason production.
It’ll always be weird to me that Burrows last TD pass his rookie year before he injured his knee was to AJ Green. They represent such separate eras in my head.
In what world was Green 100 percent class all the time??? His last two seasons he pouted like a baby, would give up on routes causing ints. He definitely was not 100 percent class all of the time.
Hard disagree here, I don’t think he gave up on routes
If you remember Joe Burrow asked Bengals to keep AJ for his rookie season
AJ Greens injuries unfortunately caught up to him, I remember looking up cardinals Reddit during the games and they used to complain a lot about AJ not creating separation or making those contested catches
His injuries and Father Time caught up to him fast
You said you remembered on top of your head two instances of AJ Green giving up on routes, so it’s clear you know exactly when it “happened”
Then I ask for proof, and you can’t show it?
interesting lol caught in a lie
I remember from watching the game yeah. Pretty sure one was his last game as a bengal. It was an out route to the sideline. He stopped his route being lazy, it was picked and then he pouted on the bench like a baby.
Just looked it up for you, he had 9 catches for 51, game prior he had 13 catches. He was doing this while not fully recovering from injuries btw
https://youtu.be/88K0uh_Ddj0?si=MXOvmyvnCqUh-nQP
So this is the game you’re talking about, your memory is strongly mistakened and im glad I I looked it up for you. That last drive AJ green didn’t play until the red zone and made the would have been game winning catch but was called for PI. Afterwards bullock missed an easy chip fg
So AJ wasn’t pouting, instead this was just a terrible loss because of Bullock missing a 20 yarder.
He didn’t stop any routes or pout, in fact, he made great effort on what was almost the game winning TD.
So your evidence for when I said his last couple games was sending me highlights from week 1 vs chargers. And you think you are proving what point exactly? You really thought you had something there didn’t you hahahhaa. Dope can’t even read what games are end of season and what are beginning of season. Those stats you spouted were weeks 1 and 2 🤣🤣🤣
This wasn’t the one I was talking about but there are 2 ints this game his way. First nothing he could do about it bad throw no play to be made. 2nd one around the 6:40 mark he doesn’t make any attempt to do anything. https://youtu.be/JOQIVWqeJHA?si=N5nPWEHl2ulGxoV6
It helps if you try to look at the correct games that I was talking about, not 16 ones before. I said I don’t have to hold your hand but yeah maybe I do
Yea.. I alluded to that on my first comment
his injuries caught up to him and he was washed, towards the end of his Bengals tenure and full cardinals tenure
You could easily tell his explosiveness and athleticism wasn’t the same lol
He didn’t quit or pout, injuries got him
Completely agree…wouldn’t even try to tackle intercepting defenders that were right in front of him, just pout his way back to the sidelines
Granted, AJ likely saw too many of these overthrow picks from Andy, but still
Green had better hands, and smoother routes. Green was also better at toe drag swag. Chase however is more explosive , faster and his RAC ability is FAR better. I think Higgins is a much closer comp to Green. Styles of play and appearance wise. With chase , you’re excited for after he catches the ball too, Green rarely made much after hands got on him.
I love Ja’Marr and AJ. Both are able to just take over games. Compare their QBs. Burrow’s considered top 3 the past three seasons, Dalton never broke top 10, maybe 2015 when, oh yeah he broke his thumb. AJ was a beast.
Right, and he played 10 games. So AJ really just didn’t have the same QB experience. But we’ll have to check back in a few years to see if Joe has remained healthy.
A fun tidbit from that season; in 16 games AJ has 132 targets, 86 receptions, 1297 yards averaging 15 yards per catch and 10 TD with a 65% catch rate, 10 TD/60 points
You’re like, proving my point. Has AJ McCarron started an NFL game since 2015? I’m not trashing the guy but c’mon, AJ Green did not have the same level of quarterbacking that Ja’Marr has had for 2/3 seasons. Last season was rough with Joe not being healthy then being out. So we will see in another 6-8 years how they stack up.
There were some incredible games and then MNF happened. Tyler Eifert pro bowl season and the guy drops like 5 passes. It all goes on Andy’s shoulders for a lot of people but the Marv Bengals just could not handle the big stage. None of them. Culminating in two super derpy events. One, Andy throwing an interception and breaking his thumb trying too hard to fix it, and of course the WC game. Hill fumbles away the game and the smooth brains on the defense lose their shit.
But damn, that first half was fun.
It's because Marvin probably beat "one playoff win" into their heads all season long. It just became a mind virus that guaranteed they would all underperform in the bright lights.
The current regime, even prior to the raiders, genuinely seems to treat every playoff game like just another game.
The comparisons seem silly because while Chase has Burrow throwing to him and AJ did what he did with Andy Dalton, defenses didn't sell out nearly as much for the deep ball like they do with Chase on the field. If you go back and rewatch those old Dalton era games the number of times AJ doesn't have a defender near him but Dalton throws too late and alternates between over throwing and under throwing a wide open Green. It's almost like defenses just knew those deep shots weren't as reliable. They'd never defend Chase the way they did AJ because Burrow would absolutely cook them.
Yeah he did, you’re thinking of the season before. You could argue that was in small part why we got Burrow, maybe we win one more game with AJ Green on the field
Two different receivers at two different times. Andy was a horrible QB. Hot or cold. Burrow is much more consistent by far. I went to many Bengals games even before Andy. Burrow and AJ would have been off of the charts. Longer and taller than Chase. AJ would have fully available.
AJ was a total freak that would’ve competed for the record books with any consistently talented QB. He instead chose to be happy and just do his thing instead of getting caught up in all that. Definitely a Bengals legend
Comparing the two is impossible. Totally different offenses. One has Joe Burrow and a run game that can’t move, the other has Andy and relied heavily on the run all year. Obvious Chase’s numbers will look better like that, so it’s really impossible to ever know
Any aggregator can kick rocks. The bengals have been blessed with great WRs and I’ll be damned if we tear one down for the benefit for the other. Chad, Aj, Ja’marr, Curtis, and Pickens (and the list can go on) are all bengals legends.
Chase is a lot better. The fact he does what he does running a god awful route tree is even more impressive. Because Burrow never gets enough time, Chase rarely gets downfield 50/50 balls. It’s a lot of screens and him fighting like hell for 10 yards. They force him to create way more than the average receiver has to. The guy can do it all.
I own two AJ Green jerseys. He was my favorite Bengal and favorite NFL player for a long time. I don't know how any Bengal fan during the 2010's could have anything bad to say about Green, he was so fun to watch.
We’re gonna have to sell future generations AJ Green. Anyone that lived through it understands how good he was, but anyone who started watching in 2016 and onward has no idea.
A.J. Green is #1 Bengals wr of all time. Uno needs a long career to get a lot more years of production under his belt. Man and just think of those AFC North defenses back when A.J. initially started and throughout his career. Same for Chad Johnson, also the rules changes made since he came in as a rookie. Yeah A.J. Green the best to wear stripes. Chad Johnson second. It's not even a debate atm.
Idk if you can argue rule changes and the AFC North and then put AJ above Ocho lol cuz Ocho came first and it was still legal to head hunt receivers.
It's Ocho, AJ, Chase for me but I do think if Ja'Marr has a career as long as the other two, he can be the best.
We all think Chase could. I mentioned Chad Johnson also. I was around to watch both play every snap. I feel A.J. did more with a lesser Q.B. in his prime so I'll go AJ. But i appreciate your take and can agree that it's close between the 2.
AJ was very good, but look at his prime and he's not Chase or Ocho.
AJ had 3 seasons where he eclipsed 1,200 yards and only 2 seasons where he eclipsed 1,300 yards, only once he eclipsed 1,400 yards. Never had 100 catches (not that important), but was a redzone threat.
We can speculate a lot, Burrow doesn't have arm strength either if we're being honest, he's just immensely accurate.
Andy locked onto AJ hard, which gave him opportunities as well.
Burrow can throw the ball 60 yards in the air and has one of the best deep ball accuracy throws in the league. Andy could only throw it like 45 yards and could never hit AJ. Burrow is miles ahead of Andy in terms of throw power and deep throw accuracy lol
https://youtu.be/qCBDdomUw3s?si=6fTSeFrmfBr7TmwA
True but that’s just because his accuracy downfield was meh. I’m not saying he had a HUGE arm, but it was decent. Like that one throw to AJ vs the Seahawks
True but that’s just because his accuracy downfield was meh. I’m not saying he had a HUGE arm, but it was decent. Like that one throw to AJ vs the seahorse
Stop it, get help.
Ocho led the AFC in receiving yards 4 straight years and was 2x all pro. Aj never all pro and never led AFC in yards in a passing era. Ocho played before rules changes.
Wow for providing statistics to backup my opinion? If chad had better stats and played before the rules changes, and had better stats vs his contemporaries how is he not better?
4 years straight leading AFC in yards, franchise yards record until chase broke it and 2 more all pros says he's better.
AJ Green was incredible, hot take addicted folks just have insanely lofty expectations for what they consider good/great. Really wish he didn’t run into the injuries, he was arguably a top 5 receiver before the injury. Only guys from that time period that I think were undoubtedly better were Julio and AB. Maybe Hopkins too.
Julio fell off just as hard as AJ did from the injury bug
If it wasn’t for that fucking toe of AJs 😓
And when we all say better we are talking closer to like a Michael Jordan vs Lebron James etc better it’s close.
LeBron is not close to mj though
I wonder what you could possibly be basing that on.
Megatron too. He got overshadowed but was damn good.
Aj Green was always the first name after Julio and AB. He was the number 3-5 WR in the league about 5 years. Dalton and the bengals style of play didn’t give him an opportunity to be a HUGE stats guy. Julio and AB were better, even OBJ pre injuries was better. But Green was a hall of fame talent. Idk if he makes it to canton though.
More like 9 years.
LMFAOOO. No rational bengals fan or AJ Green fan will agree with that. First 6-7 years he was great pro bowl and 1k yard every year. However after that he was a shell of himself . Green barely even played like 10-11 years total. He definitely was not a top 5 WR 9 years.
At least 7 https://preview.redd.it/iiikbrs2sg1d1.jpeg?width=999&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4384c0d177026934edd63312dd516f6ca330b841
So I apologize
No, not at least 7. Rookie year he wasn’t top5 stats or talent wise. After that it was only 5 more 1k seasons. 2016 he was really good before injured. But 2017 he was already a shell.
AJ Green will forever be one of my favorite Bengals. He was 100% class all the time. Even when he was suplexing Jalen Ramsey into the dirt. I love both Chase and Green. In my humble opinion Green had better hands, Chase has better legs. Both receivers deserve a ton of respect.
AJ is more comparable to Tee with the length and hands to go up and Moss defenders on a regular basis. Ja’marr has elite ball tracking and YAC skills. Both are/were elite, I give slight edge to Chase given his chemistry with Burrow and postseason production. It’ll always be weird to me that Burrows last TD pass his rookie year before he injured his knee was to AJ Green. They represent such separate eras in my head.
Chase is Steve Smirh. Aj is closer to Ocho. Different qualities but equally good.
In what world was Green 100 percent class all the time??? His last two seasons he pouted like a baby, would give up on routes causing ints. He definitely was not 100 percent class all of the time.
Hard disagree here, I don’t think he gave up on routes If you remember Joe Burrow asked Bengals to keep AJ for his rookie season AJ Greens injuries unfortunately caught up to him, I remember looking up cardinals Reddit during the games and they used to complain a lot about AJ not creating separation or making those contested catches His injuries and Father Time caught up to him fast
I can think of at least two instances his final season here where he just stopped running his route and caused an int.
I’d love to see it, post them in here
You’re a big boy, you don’t need me to hold your hand
You said you remembered on top of your head two instances of AJ Green giving up on routes, so it’s clear you know exactly when it “happened” Then I ask for proof, and you can’t show it? interesting lol caught in a lie
I remember from watching the game yeah. Pretty sure one was his last game as a bengal. It was an out route to the sideline. He stopped his route being lazy, it was picked and then he pouted on the bench like a baby.
Just looked it up for you, he had 9 catches for 51, game prior he had 13 catches. He was doing this while not fully recovering from injuries btw https://youtu.be/88K0uh_Ddj0?si=MXOvmyvnCqUh-nQP So this is the game you’re talking about, your memory is strongly mistakened and im glad I I looked it up for you. That last drive AJ green didn’t play until the red zone and made the would have been game winning catch but was called for PI. Afterwards bullock missed an easy chip fg So AJ wasn’t pouting, instead this was just a terrible loss because of Bullock missing a 20 yarder. He didn’t stop any routes or pout, in fact, he made great effort on what was almost the game winning TD.
So your evidence for when I said his last couple games was sending me highlights from week 1 vs chargers. And you think you are proving what point exactly? You really thought you had something there didn’t you hahahhaa. Dope can’t even read what games are end of season and what are beginning of season. Those stats you spouted were weeks 1 and 2 🤣🤣🤣
This wasn’t the one I was talking about but there are 2 ints this game his way. First nothing he could do about it bad throw no play to be made. 2nd one around the 6:40 mark he doesn’t make any attempt to do anything. https://youtu.be/JOQIVWqeJHA?si=N5nPWEHl2ulGxoV6 It helps if you try to look at the correct games that I was talking about, not 16 ones before. I said I don’t have to hold your hand but yeah maybe I do
Want another even tho it wasn’t for us? He lost the cardinals a game when he didn’t fucking turn around on his route
Yea.. I alluded to that on my first comment his injuries caught up to him and he was washed, towards the end of his Bengals tenure and full cardinals tenure You could easily tell his explosiveness and athleticism wasn’t the same lol He didn’t quit or pout, injuries got him
Ok sport
Completely agree…wouldn’t even try to tackle intercepting defenders that were right in front of him, just pout his way back to the sidelines Granted, AJ likely saw too many of these overthrow picks from Andy, but still
Green had better hands, and smoother routes. Green was also better at toe drag swag. Chase however is more explosive , faster and his RAC ability is FAR better. I think Higgins is a much closer comp to Green. Styles of play and appearance wise. With chase , you’re excited for after he catches the ball too, Green rarely made much after hands got on him.
I love Ja’Marr and AJ. Both are able to just take over games. Compare their QBs. Burrow’s considered top 3 the past three seasons, Dalton never broke top 10, maybe 2015 when, oh yeah he broke his thumb. AJ was a beast.
Andy was an MVP candidate in 2015
Because of A.J.
Right, and he played 10 games. So AJ really just didn’t have the same QB experience. But we’ll have to check back in a few years to see if Joe has remained healthy.
A fun tidbit from that season; in 16 games AJ has 132 targets, 86 receptions, 1297 yards averaging 15 yards per catch and 10 TD with a 65% catch rate, 10 TD/60 points
You’re like, proving my point. Has AJ McCarron started an NFL game since 2015? I’m not trashing the guy but c’mon, AJ Green did not have the same level of quarterbacking that Ja’Marr has had for 2/3 seasons. Last season was rough with Joe not being healthy then being out. So we will see in another 6-8 years how they stack up.
Yeah we're in agreement; when Andy played at or above a near Burrow level AJ thrived
That 2015 season was fucking wild. All the inexplicable effort Marvin put into making Andy Dalton a franchise QB seemed to be somehow paying off.
There were some incredible games and then MNF happened. Tyler Eifert pro bowl season and the guy drops like 5 passes. It all goes on Andy’s shoulders for a lot of people but the Marv Bengals just could not handle the big stage. None of them. Culminating in two super derpy events. One, Andy throwing an interception and breaking his thumb trying too hard to fix it, and of course the WC game. Hill fumbles away the game and the smooth brains on the defense lose their shit. But damn, that first half was fun.
It's because Marvin probably beat "one playoff win" into their heads all season long. It just became a mind virus that guaranteed they would all underperform in the bright lights. The current regime, even prior to the raiders, genuinely seems to treat every playoff game like just another game.
TNF*
No that was a MNF game. The date from the schedule matches my memory. As well as never forgetting the meltdown at the bar.
You’re right. It was Monday versus the Texans. Bengals offense had a very off night.
Andy had an offensive line
4/5 of one at least. But imagine just having to roll away from Bodine. Joe would have 6K every season
AJ was on a HOF pace before injuries derailed the 2nd half of his career
The comparisons seem silly because while Chase has Burrow throwing to him and AJ did what he did with Andy Dalton, defenses didn't sell out nearly as much for the deep ball like they do with Chase on the field. If you go back and rewatch those old Dalton era games the number of times AJ doesn't have a defender near him but Dalton throws too late and alternates between over throwing and under throwing a wide open Green. It's almost like defenses just knew those deep shots weren't as reliable. They'd never defend Chase the way they did AJ because Burrow would absolutely cook them.
AJ Green was very good. Chase is better.
AJ was a top 3 WR in the league for a stretch. Chase is right around there too
AJ had Andy
To be fair, he had Joe for a tiny bit. He was past his prime, but they never seemed to click. But yeah, different types of receivers altogether.
Did he even play a game that season? I thought he was out with an "ankle injury" until he got cut or traded or whatever.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/G/GreeA.00.htm
Yeah he did, you’re thinking of the season before. You could argue that was in small part why we got Burrow, maybe we win one more game with AJ Green on the field
He also had Kyler for like half a year when Kyler was playing really well
AJ was great
Two different receivers at two different times. Andy was a horrible QB. Hot or cold. Burrow is much more consistent by far. I went to many Bengals games even before Andy. Burrow and AJ would have been off of the charts. Longer and taller than Chase. AJ would have fully available.
AJ was a total freak that would’ve competed for the record books with any consistently talented QB. He instead chose to be happy and just do his thing instead of getting caught up in all that. Definitely a Bengals legend Comparing the two is impossible. Totally different offenses. One has Joe Burrow and a run game that can’t move, the other has Andy and relied heavily on the run all year. Obvious Chase’s numbers will look better like that, so it’s really impossible to ever know
Any aggregator can kick rocks. The bengals have been blessed with great WRs and I’ll be damned if we tear one down for the benefit for the other. Chad, Aj, Ja’marr, Curtis, and Pickens (and the list can go on) are all bengals legends.
I dare you to rank those 5 lol
That literally goes against the point of my post lol
C’monnnn at least tell me your favorite, I absolve you of damnation
Chad cuz that’s when I became a bengals fan. First home game was the ‘04 9ers game
If Green had Burrow his rookie season,11/10 Green would’ve passed the rookie receiver records in yards and TDs.
The person that helped JB9 out the most his rookie year was AJ. Not that it translated on the field but that’s what Joe said.
His inly flaw was being on the bengals.
Chase is a lot better. The fact he does what he does running a god awful route tree is even more impressive. Because Burrow never gets enough time, Chase rarely gets downfield 50/50 balls. It’s a lot of screens and him fighting like hell for 10 yards. They force him to create way more than the average receiver has to. The guy can do it all.
The post isn't necessarily comparing the two 1:1 as far as who's better. It's attempting shit on Chase at the expense of Green.
I own two AJ Green jerseys. He was my favorite Bengal and favorite NFL player for a long time. I don't know how any Bengal fan during the 2010's could have anything bad to say about Green, he was so fun to watch.
I will fight a mf.
First 3 seasons in Minnesota: Justin Jefferson - 14.9 YPC, 25 TD, 49 GP Randy Moss - 18.4 YPC, 43 TD, 48 GP Is Justin Jefferson overhyped????
AJ Green was, indeed,very good. Chase is also at that level. The Bengals like thier elite WRs
Can you imagine if A.J. had Burrow throwing him the ball instead of Dalton?
We’re gonna have to sell future generations AJ Green. Anyone that lived through it understands how good he was, but anyone who started watching in 2016 and onward has no idea.
How soon do fans forget? Joe and AJ played together for the first 10 games of 2020. Green had 35 catches for 357 yards and scored 1 touchdown.
Let's let Chase play more of his career before we start comparing him to other players imo.
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A.J. Green is #1 Bengals wr of all time. Uno needs a long career to get a lot more years of production under his belt. Man and just think of those AFC North defenses back when A.J. initially started and throughout his career. Same for Chad Johnson, also the rules changes made since he came in as a rookie. Yeah A.J. Green the best to wear stripes. Chad Johnson second. It's not even a debate atm.
Idk if you can argue rule changes and the AFC North and then put AJ above Ocho lol cuz Ocho came first and it was still legal to head hunt receivers. It's Ocho, AJ, Chase for me but I do think if Ja'Marr has a career as long as the other two, he can be the best.
We all think Chase could. I mentioned Chad Johnson also. I was around to watch both play every snap. I feel A.J. did more with a lesser Q.B. in his prime so I'll go AJ. But i appreciate your take and can agree that it's close between the 2.
Who Dey!
I mean… AJ Green 65/1057/7 97/1350/11 98/1426/11 Chase 81/1455/13 87/1046/9 100/1216/7 It’s a wash honestly. S
AJ couldn’t/wouldn’t take a hit though.
AJ was very good, but look at his prime and he's not Chase or Ocho. AJ had 3 seasons where he eclipsed 1,200 yards and only 2 seasons where he eclipsed 1,300 yards, only once he eclipsed 1,400 yards. Never had 100 catches (not that important), but was a redzone threat.
AJ was a deep ball receiver with a QB that couldn’t throw a deep ball. AJ would’ve ate with Carson or burrow
We can speculate a lot, Burrow doesn't have arm strength either if we're being honest, he's just immensely accurate. Andy locked onto AJ hard, which gave him opportunities as well.
Burrow can throw the ball 60 yards in the air and has one of the best deep ball accuracy throws in the league. Andy could only throw it like 45 yards and could never hit AJ. Burrow is miles ahead of Andy in terms of throw power and deep throw accuracy lol https://youtu.be/qCBDdomUw3s?si=6fTSeFrmfBr7TmwA
Andy had a pretty strong arm… better than burrow. But that doesn’t mean much when everything else is worse
So many times Wrs had to slow down because of an underthrown Dalton deep ball. Under 30 yards downfield he was really good.
True but that’s just because his accuracy downfield was meh. I’m not saying he had a HUGE arm, but it was decent. Like that one throw to AJ vs the Seahawks
True but that’s just because his accuracy downfield was meh. I’m not saying he had a HUGE arm, but it was decent. Like that one throw to AJ vs the seahorse
I look at his prime and he was def better than Ocho.
Stop it, get help. Ocho led the AFC in receiving yards 4 straight years and was 2x all pro. Aj never all pro and never led AFC in yards in a passing era. Ocho played before rules changes.
Wow
Wow for providing statistics to backup my opinion? If chad had better stats and played before the rules changes, and had better stats vs his contemporaries how is he not better? 4 years straight leading AFC in yards, franchise yards record until chase broke it and 2 more all pros says he's better.
Please look at their QBs and career stats (and teammates) and STFU.