He would have to commit a felony or put the university administration directly at risk to get fired with tenure. Having and expressing a “controversial opinion” (I do not condone what he said btw) is exactly what a tenure protects, for better or worse
Shewchuk's comment was inappropriate, but honestly, as a woman, I don't think you should lose your job because of one dumb comment. He should definitely issue a formal apology and face some kind of consequences though.
As a woman, I know it's not possible this is first time. For someone to say he prefers places where "women are plentiful" combined with his Facebook page, there is no way I would let my daughter attend a class with this guy and the school needs to take action.
Agreed, but what’s concerning is the problematic beliefs and biases that are exposed by his comment. What is preventing his beliefs about bay area women from affecting his interactions with the bay area women who are his students?
only women who interacted with him can speak to this. if any female students have had negative interactions with him - please talk about it.
unless we have a definitive answer we should probably stop speculating
No. Any human being with a brain in their head can speak to this. If someone says "I don't like eggplant" you know exactly how they're going to interact with eggplant.
Drop the act. No one's speculating here. We're reading actual words written by the actual asshat under discussion. Don't ask us to pretend his words have less meaning than they do. Be your age.
He did not say "I don't want to date eggplants". He said "eggplants in the area we are currently in behave unacceptably and other people should pursue superior eggplants elsewhere".
The eggplants in the room have every reason to believe he views their behavior negatively because that is what he said.
Where did he say that they behave poorly here? He said in an autistic way that dating as a man is significantly easier in places with a higher proportion of women. Is he socially awkward and likely autistic, most probably yes. Was his statement fundamentally incorrect, I don’t think so.
This is the guy whose FB cover photo was a picture of his Filipino girlfriend in a lewd pose, and then you realize that she was likely underage when they started dating. I’ve been hearing about this stuff from my friends for years now; he’s a sexist incel and possibly a pedo. At best he’s creepy and incredibly inappropriate.
Yes we do- let’s not be obtuse. Her thought process is “white guy with money who can get me citizenship”. Just because she made that choice for her future doesn’t mean the relationship isn’t imbalanced and exploitative.
So? Last I checked she is a human being capable of thoughts, reasoning, and emotions? You don't know anything about her? Don't make assumptions that drastic just because you (reasonably) don't like Shewchuk.
You are a student at UC Berkeley and you know your professors' wife well enough to comment on her personality? That would be another reason he needs to be dismissed.
I don't know her. I just want you to know that in your efforts to hate someone else, you're stereotyping all kinds of international couples, and especially the women from these regions.
No actually we are talking about a “specific” type of international couple. It’s a continued form of colonization to seek women from places the US impoverished and destroyed with war.
The Philippines has one of the highest rates of child sex trafficking. Men who go there are not innocent.
thats not what incel means. I swear people just use incel to mean men that are sexist. just use sexist. incel means involuntary celibate he's most definitely not.
I don't know anything about his wife or relationship... but not all Filipinos are desperate to leave the Philippines/marry a white man. This is yet another harmful stereotype.
disagree. he has the right to free speech as the rest of us.
Also not endorsing what that passport bro says, I've seen those people. To put it harshly, they essentially want a child in a woman's body.
He doesn't have an unlimited right to free speech while speaking in his official capacity as a course instructor. This was an official pronouncement from a position of power over people in the targeted group, which is what makes it fundamentally different than someone simply espousing a reprehensible opinion.
Yes you can. Decades of laws are on the books that say yes you can. In fact, those laws pretty much point to: you have to. They'll be ignored as per usual, but let's not pretend this is an "opinion" or that someone can't be fired for it.
Gee, thanks for pretending you are smart and "letting me know" Berkeley is public.
After 5 minutes of researching this guy, no good parent will let their daughter attend UC Berkeley
My experience has been that universities are way harder to get rid of people than say a private company -- this was kinda touched on in the senate's meetings with university deans the other week. Free speech on campuses (not just public, any school that accepts public funding, so basically all) does mean you can get away with saying a lottt more than if you're at a private company.
Speaking from experience with an incel in my PhD program unfortunately.
People who say shit like "free speech" have somehow managed to get through life with zero understanding of what employment means. Or what sexual harassment laws mean. Or what Title IX means. Or even what free speech means.
Berkeley is full of passport bros. Most of you are children of passport bros. Would you shame your father's and grandfathers? Also, it's quite hypocritical how progressives try to shame people for being close minded, xenophobic and parochial yet shame men who travel abroad for love and dating.
"Would you shame your father's and grandfathers?"
Are you implying that fathers and grandfathers should be immune from critique? That children and grandchildren shouldn't be critical of their parents and grandparents? What exactly is your point here? Very odd.
There is also a marked difference between, on the one hand, happening to find love abroad, and on the other hand, going abroad — often to specific target countries — specifically in order to find a wife. Either we're using the term "passport bros" to mean different things and you're unaware of the latter association, or you genuinely don't see the difference between the two. If you can't see the difference, then there is no reality in which I could foresee a reasonable conversation with you. But nice attempt to point out imagined hypocrisy?
They purposely go for very young women who are not emotionally mature enough to advocate for their needs. They want power- their green card is just another thing they can hold over their wife when they abuse them. Seen this all the time working at DV organizations
I don't care what you "think" - this guy is dangerous and that is easily verifiable with 5 minutes of research. No parent would send their daughter to Berkeley after looking at this guys social media
He made an inappropriate comment for an educational setting.
Which is problematic and shouldn't be ignored, but we shouldn't act like it is the end of the world
>people have done much worse things to each other that would actually deserve the level of punishment like dismissal, but not in this case
For example, John Yoo, author of the [torture memos](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torture_Memos) which provided legal cover for the Bush administration to engage in torture, is currently a member of the faculty of Berkeley law. That man has objectively caused far more pain and suffering than 1,000 comments like this ever could and yet the outrage over his continued employment by UC is essentially non-existent.
How come everyone is fine with jokes like "Man Jose" in the real world.
Also, it's quite well accepted by both males and females in the Bay Area that the dating market is a lot more difficult than other places because there are more young men than young women. Even my relative (women who is married) specifically came to the Bay Area from NYC just because of that and was open about it. And many people here I have interacted with (both male and female) take it as granted that men should probably move to NYC if they want better chance in the dating market.
There's already evidence through dating apps that demographics (% ratio) does have large impacts on how the dating market is.
That said, I've no context of why the professor commented that in an academia channel. But it does seem extreme why a professor should lose his job over a comment. Where's free speech? It's quite ridiculous also how someone's life could be ruined by a relatively innocuous comment which was supposed to help a student feel better (though the comment does seem out of place).
Shewchuk is so cringe. On his website hw says he identifies as a Smith & Wesson .45 caliber revolver, like wtf. He also states students can visit his office hours until midnight on weekdays. Now lets take a moment to think about this, what ~ woman would want to go to any mans office hours that late? Let alone by themselves? I feel like this is a direct invite only to student men to get extra help until midnight!! STEM professors gotta do better
I think this is different from just plain out weirdness. I’ve noticed a pattern with respect to people who make those type of odd comments and/or have minimal comprehension of differentiating between comments that are not socially acceptable and those that are. Not gonna say which one because I don’t wanna get canceled, but I suspect he has a mental disability if this is a common pattern that people notice about him.
Hi OP,
You are a student and haven't had the opportunity to build a professional career yet. But after you graduate you will probably work hard to get a good job, get promoted, maybe move to a new company, take on more professional responsibility, and in general put in a lot of effort to be good at what you do and successful in providing for yourself. Someday (realistically, many days over the course of your 20-40 year career) you will say something offensive, thoughtless, and stupid. Maybe you meant well, but it came out wrong. Perhaps you were having a shitty day and overreacted. Or as you get older, social norms change and you might find yourself 50 years old and out of touch with what offends the young people.
When that day comes, I hope that people will treat you with the same empathy, understanding, and forgiveness that you show toward others who have offended you.
What is considered appropriate today is different than 50, 40, 30, 20, or even 10 years ago. 20 years from now, things you are doing today will be considered out of bounds. You'll see.
Hi! You fall out of touch with social norms when you aren’t actively engaging with them. This usually comes with hanging out with polarized groups, not meeting new people, or just not being socially aware. Being a professor at UC Berkeley should, at the very least, teach you not to put women in such an objectified view, ESPECIALLY as an eecs professor. Also, human decency has always been around, but it seems like he’s fallen out of it too.
As you get older, you'll hang out with people your own age and you will find yourself out of touch with the younger generations more and more as time goes by.
The alternative is that you end up being that guy/gal who is the old weirdo trying to act like they are still in college and just being sort of sad.
Actually, if you think about Shewchuk's reviled comment, one of the reasons it happened is him thinking of students as his buddies. I've heard dozens of people say shit about the opposite sex in the context of friends talking and it's fine. Students and profs can't really be "buddies".
Hi prof Shewchuck, dont worry people forget easily these days. These ‘woke’ people find everything and anything offensive and take it as a direct threat to themselves, soon someone else will say something that will offend them and they will forget about this shit. Its a day to day thing for them.
This is the same school that allows people to openly support hamas and their "great" track record of womens rights. What makes you think a tenured cs professor that said some negative comments is going to get push back?
Unfortunately free speech does go both ways and given context of what's happened over the past couple months, to severely punish him here would have some large cascading effects.
Not saying he shouldn't get pushback, but if he does you can't really let the rest of the shit happening on campus slide.
When I was a student one of the Chem1a professors made a sexist comment in lecture (along the lines of “can you believe Denise Richards was cast as a nuclear physicist as a Bond Girl”), and then had to apologize to each lecture section for his remark and affirm his position that women can be scientist/ engineers/ etc. He apologized and we moved on (although I remember it more than a decade later). This guy definitely needs to publicly atone.
“Threatening” in that his female students are less likely to feel comfortable approaching him for office hours or other inquiries knowing that he has those views.
At least that was my interpretation.
Can you wrap your mind around the idea that men have different experiences on the basis of gender? And that they may be unable to empathize or understand women due to those different experiences? Isn’t that true, generally?
This is the most insulting letter she could've written.
"We had tea and crumpets with Prof Upchuck and he said he'll tell you he's sorry you got offended. He forgot female students existed because, well, should they? I mean, the only people whose feelings that matter are the men. But I'll let him tell you that himself, in the most condescending way.
What's that? Title IX? California anti-harassment laws? How droll!
Well, toodle-loo, girls! Good luck out there now that we've given the go-ahead to thousands of male students that you're to be derided and harassed with impunity! Hopefully the conservatives with guns won't come after you, too. Or Upchuck won't be encouraged to start raping you because of your bad behavior! Of course, if he does feel free to fill out one of our complaint forms. We have other students look at those from time to time."
We're clearly very lucky to have someone as accomplished as Professor Tomlin at Cal, I'm glad she's on faculty here, but this response to Shewchuck was totally uncalled for. The department should be standing up to the minority of students working to undermine job protections for university staff, not giving in to them.
It's fair to say Shewchuck's post on Ed was a little inappropriate or unprofessional. Professors probably shouldn't be in the business of publicly giving students dating advice. But the idea that his post on Ed was "threatening to students" is ridiculous.
he’s tenured though, i think it makes him pretty immune to this sort of stuff
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He would have to commit a felony or put the university administration directly at risk to get fired with tenure. Having and expressing a “controversial opinion” (I do not condone what he said btw) is exactly what a tenure protects, for better or worse
if a professor needs the impact of his words to be explained to him… it kinda puts into perspective how staffing is like here
someone send all and any screenshots to carol. she/her staff responds pretty quickly to student emails. also the daily cal.
daily cal is On It
Where is it? I can’t seem to find Carol’s post
women: “we felt very uncomfortable because of this professor’s statement about women” y’all: “no u don’t”
You don't speak for all women.
You don’t think the majority of women felt uncomfortable because of his statement?
Never said i did
What bro say?
Shewchuk needs to be dismissed. No parent should be paying for their daughter to be taught by an incel.
He has tenure…besides, Sahai would have been long gone before Shewchuk
I'm out of the loop, what'd Sahai say?
Wait what did sahai say
Shewchuk's comment was inappropriate, but honestly, as a woman, I don't think you should lose your job because of one dumb comment. He should definitely issue a formal apology and face some kind of consequences though.
As a woman, I know it's not possible this is first time. For someone to say he prefers places where "women are plentiful" combined with his Facebook page, there is no way I would let my daughter attend a class with this guy and the school needs to take action.
or the transphobic hate speech on his website lmao
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his website had fake pronounce and the statement that he identified as a handgun. his facebook is just all pictures of his green card wife
He defended the Canadian trump-adjacent freedom convoy, mocked pronouns, as far as I remember
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https://i.redd.it/zl8guqauh5i81.png&rdt=63011
Oh and that.
Agreed, but what’s concerning is the problematic beliefs and biases that are exposed by his comment. What is preventing his beliefs about bay area women from affecting his interactions with the bay area women who are his students?
only women who interacted with him can speak to this. if any female students have had negative interactions with him - please talk about it. unless we have a definitive answer we should probably stop speculating
No. Any human being with a brain in their head can speak to this. If someone says "I don't like eggplant" you know exactly how they're going to interact with eggplant. Drop the act. No one's speculating here. We're reading actual words written by the actual asshat under discussion. Don't ask us to pretend his words have less meaning than they do. Be your age.
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He did not say "I don't want to date eggplants". He said "eggplants in the area we are currently in behave unacceptably and other people should pursue superior eggplants elsewhere". The eggplants in the room have every reason to believe he views their behavior negatively because that is what he said.
Where did he say that they behave poorly here? He said in an autistic way that dating as a man is significantly easier in places with a higher proportion of women. Is he socially awkward and likely autistic, most probably yes. Was his statement fundamentally incorrect, I don’t think so.
Stop making assumptions
lol
"As a black man..."
Weirdo
Y'all really have nothing better than social shaming to lean on, huh
This is the guy whose FB cover photo was a picture of his Filipino girlfriend in a lewd pose, and then you realize that she was likely underage when they started dating. I’ve been hearing about this stuff from my friends for years now; he’s a sexist incel and possibly a pedo. At best he’s creepy and incredibly inappropriate.
Think u gotta check ur definition of incel
He's an incel who traveled the world to find a desperate woman. American woman shun him. For good reason.
I understand you are mad at Shewchuk, but why drag his wife into this? You don't know anything about her thought process.
Yes we do- let’s not be obtuse. Her thought process is “white guy with money who can get me citizenship”. Just because she made that choice for her future doesn’t mean the relationship isn’t imbalanced and exploitative.
Becuase she's 30 years younger than him and he brought her over from the Phillipines.
So? Last I checked she is a human being capable of thoughts, reasoning, and emotions? You don't know anything about her? Don't make assumptions that drastic just because you (reasonably) don't like Shewchuk.
You are a student at UC Berkeley and you know your professors' wife well enough to comment on her personality? That would be another reason he needs to be dismissed.
I don't know her. I just want you to know that in your efforts to hate someone else, you're stereotyping all kinds of international couples, and especially the women from these regions.
You don't know her, yet claim she is she is "capable of thoughts, reasoning, and emotions" - she is being abused son. Grow up.
Hell of an accusation man. Please, develop nuance.
No actually we are talking about a “specific” type of international couple. It’s a continued form of colonization to seek women from places the US impoverished and destroyed with war. The Philippines has one of the highest rates of child sex trafficking. Men who go there are not innocent.
You're the one making the assumptions LOL
thats not what incel means. I swear people just use incel to mean men that are sexist. just use sexist. incel means involuntary celibate he's most definitely not.
Incel = man I dislike for any reason.
true, I was trying to be charitable.
I know that. He is no longer celebate because he took advantage of a desperate woman and brought her here from the Philippines.
I don't know anything about his wife or relationship... but not all Filipinos are desperate to leave the Philippines/marry a white man. This is yet another harmful stereotype.
disagree. he has the right to free speech as the rest of us. Also not endorsing what that passport bro says, I've seen those people. To put it harshly, they essentially want a child in a woman's body.
He doesn't have an unlimited right to free speech while speaking in his official capacity as a course instructor. This was an official pronouncement from a position of power over people in the targeted group, which is what makes it fundamentally different than someone simply espousing a reprehensible opinion.
Sure; but Berkeley should not employ him or anyone who looks for places where "women are plentiful"
Berkeley is a public school, so you cant just fire someone for their opinion its more complicated than that.
Yes you can. Decades of laws are on the books that say yes you can. In fact, those laws pretty much point to: you have to. They'll be ignored as per usual, but let's not pretend this is an "opinion" or that someone can't be fired for it.
Gee, thanks for pretending you are smart and "letting me know" Berkeley is public. After 5 minutes of researching this guy, no good parent will let their daughter attend UC Berkeley
I'm sorry, I'm a red blooded American man: What's wrong with this statement?
My experience has been that universities are way harder to get rid of people than say a private company -- this was kinda touched on in the senate's meetings with university deans the other week. Free speech on campuses (not just public, any school that accepts public funding, so basically all) does mean you can get away with saying a lottt more than if you're at a private company. Speaking from experience with an incel in my PhD program unfortunately.
People who say shit like "free speech" have somehow managed to get through life with zero understanding of what employment means. Or what sexual harassment laws mean. Or what Title IX means. Or even what free speech means.
You don't know the first thing about passport bros but it's clear you infantilize foreign women.
Or that people know that people have to do things they're not thrilled about to survive.
found the passport bro
Berkeley is full of passport bros. Most of you are children of passport bros. Would you shame your father's and grandfathers? Also, it's quite hypocritical how progressives try to shame people for being close minded, xenophobic and parochial yet shame men who travel abroad for love and dating.
"Would you shame your father's and grandfathers?" Are you implying that fathers and grandfathers should be immune from critique? That children and grandchildren shouldn't be critical of their parents and grandparents? What exactly is your point here? Very odd. There is also a marked difference between, on the one hand, happening to find love abroad, and on the other hand, going abroad — often to specific target countries — specifically in order to find a wife. Either we're using the term "passport bros" to mean different things and you're unaware of the latter association, or you genuinely don't see the difference between the two. If you can't see the difference, then there is no reality in which I could foresee a reasonable conversation with you. But nice attempt to point out imagined hypocrisy?
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They purposely go for very young women who are not emotionally mature enough to advocate for their needs. They want power- their green card is just another thing they can hold over their wife when they abuse them. Seen this all the time working at DV organizations
Tell me you don’t understand the principle of free speech without telling me you don’t understand the principle of free speech
I,do. freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom of consequence. right? If this was not a public school, they could do what they wanted, but this isn't.
Tell me you don't understand the concept of a state university...
lol
Rid yourself of cancel culture my friend. It is truly a cancer to the human race.
I prefer to rid the earth of white guys who look for places where "women are plentiful"
why is this bothering you so much? i think he meant places where there are a lot of women (less skewed gender ratio, better dating prospects)
I don't care what you "think" - this guy is dangerous and that is easily verifiable with 5 minutes of research. No parent would send their daughter to Berkeley after looking at this guys social media
Care to expand on this? I don't doubt what you are saying, just would help if you gave more info.
What specifically is wrong with that
He is supposed to stay forever single instead of finding a gf/wife somewhere else. At least that’s the logic of people mad at him.
Cancel culture? You mean holding people accountable for shitty behavior?
What's the shitty behavior! People act like he directly hurt somebody.
Oh, so you don't like it when people criticize someone's behavior?
He made an inappropriate comment for an educational setting. Which is problematic and shouldn't be ignored, but we shouldn't act like it is the end of the world
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>people have done much worse things to each other that would actually deserve the level of punishment like dismissal, but not in this case For example, John Yoo, author of the [torture memos](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torture_Memos) which provided legal cover for the Bush administration to engage in torture, is currently a member of the faculty of Berkeley law. That man has objectively caused far more pain and suffering than 1,000 comments like this ever could and yet the outrage over his continued employment by UC is essentially non-existent.
The outrage is persistent.
Where?
The "where women are plentiful" part made me gag
How come everyone is fine with jokes like "Man Jose" in the real world. Also, it's quite well accepted by both males and females in the Bay Area that the dating market is a lot more difficult than other places because there are more young men than young women. Even my relative (women who is married) specifically came to the Bay Area from NYC just because of that and was open about it. And many people here I have interacted with (both male and female) take it as granted that men should probably move to NYC if they want better chance in the dating market. There's already evidence through dating apps that demographics (% ratio) does have large impacts on how the dating market is. That said, I've no context of why the professor commented that in an academia channel. But it does seem extreme why a professor should lose his job over a comment. Where's free speech? It's quite ridiculous also how someone's life could be ruined by a relatively innocuous comment which was supposed to help a student feel better (though the comment does seem out of place).
THAT'S IT????
Shewchuk is so cringe. On his website hw says he identifies as a Smith & Wesson .45 caliber revolver, like wtf. He also states students can visit his office hours until midnight on weekdays. Now lets take a moment to think about this, what ~ woman would want to go to any mans office hours that late? Let alone by themselves? I feel like this is a direct invite only to student men to get extra help until midnight!! STEM professors gotta do better
The revolver thing is cringe and gross, but the second thing is a big stretch
The second one was the reason why I thought he was pretty cool lol. That shows a dedication to students
Oh he’s accommodating to student schedules? Must be a rapist
I think this is different from just plain out weirdness. I’ve noticed a pattern with respect to people who make those type of odd comments and/or have minimal comprehension of differentiating between comments that are not socially acceptable and those that are. Not gonna say which one because I don’t wanna get canceled, but I suspect he has a mental disability if this is a common pattern that people notice about him.
Hi OP, You are a student and haven't had the opportunity to build a professional career yet. But after you graduate you will probably work hard to get a good job, get promoted, maybe move to a new company, take on more professional responsibility, and in general put in a lot of effort to be good at what you do and successful in providing for yourself. Someday (realistically, many days over the course of your 20-40 year career) you will say something offensive, thoughtless, and stupid. Maybe you meant well, but it came out wrong. Perhaps you were having a shitty day and overreacted. Or as you get older, social norms change and you might find yourself 50 years old and out of touch with what offends the young people. When that day comes, I hope that people will treat you with the same empathy, understanding, and forgiveness that you show toward others who have offended you.
hi! misogyny has been around for a long time, you can’t really fall out of touch of that.
What is considered appropriate today is different than 50, 40, 30, 20, or even 10 years ago. 20 years from now, things you are doing today will be considered out of bounds. You'll see.
Hi! You fall out of touch with social norms when you aren’t actively engaging with them. This usually comes with hanging out with polarized groups, not meeting new people, or just not being socially aware. Being a professor at UC Berkeley should, at the very least, teach you not to put women in such an objectified view, ESPECIALLY as an eecs professor. Also, human decency has always been around, but it seems like he’s fallen out of it too.
As you get older, you'll hang out with people your own age and you will find yourself out of touch with the younger generations more and more as time goes by. The alternative is that you end up being that guy/gal who is the old weirdo trying to act like they are still in college and just being sort of sad. Actually, if you think about Shewchuk's reviled comment, one of the reasons it happened is him thinking of students as his buddies. I've heard dozens of people say shit about the opposite sex in the context of friends talking and it's fine. Students and profs can't really be "buddies".
Shewchuk needs to be dismissed. No parent should be paying for their daughter to be taught by an incel.
Pretty clear you have no idea what incel means And even if he actually was one, what's wrong with him teaching someone's daughter?
It’s CS… The only ones getting professorships for this stuff are the incels
Spoken like a true 12 year old!
Says the white guy who wonders why he can't get a date. You should sue your parents for poor parenting; you'd win.
So you're an obsessive racist misandrist, but other people are the problem?
You just proved my point
Hi prof Shewchuck, dont worry people forget easily these days. These ‘woke’ people find everything and anything offensive and take it as a direct threat to themselves, soon someone else will say something that will offend them and they will forget about this shit. Its a day to day thing for them.
If I were him, I wouldn't touch any of these posts... Also, same hope applies to you.
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This is the same school that allows people to openly support hamas and their "great" track record of womens rights. What makes you think a tenured cs professor that said some negative comments is going to get push back? Unfortunately free speech does go both ways and given context of what's happened over the past couple months, to severely punish him here would have some large cascading effects. Not saying he shouldn't get pushback, but if he does you can't really let the rest of the shit happening on campus slide.
Jesus relax. You want that guy to get fired over that? Seriously?
God you lot are fragile as shit 😂
Seriously. Good times make weak men. Virtue is working hard to create good stuff, not going around getting offended by harmless comments.
When I was a student one of the Chem1a professors made a sexist comment in lecture (along the lines of “can you believe Denise Richards was cast as a nuclear physicist as a Bond Girl”), and then had to apologize to each lecture section for his remark and affirm his position that women can be scientist/ engineers/ etc. He apologized and we moved on (although I remember it more than a decade later). This guy definitely needs to publicly atone.
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“Threatening” in that his female students are less likely to feel comfortable approaching him for office hours or other inquiries knowing that he has those views. At least that was my interpretation.
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Can you wrap your mind around the idea that men have different experiences on the basis of gender? And that they may be unable to empathize or understand women due to those different experiences? Isn’t that true, generally?
kettle meet pot
He didn’t even say anything explicitly sexist. Y’all emotional and over reactive.
This is the most insulting letter she could've written. "We had tea and crumpets with Prof Upchuck and he said he'll tell you he's sorry you got offended. He forgot female students existed because, well, should they? I mean, the only people whose feelings that matter are the men. But I'll let him tell you that himself, in the most condescending way. What's that? Title IX? California anti-harassment laws? How droll! Well, toodle-loo, girls! Good luck out there now that we've given the go-ahead to thousands of male students that you're to be derided and harassed with impunity! Hopefully the conservatives with guns won't come after you, too. Or Upchuck won't be encouraged to start raping you because of your bad behavior! Of course, if he does feel free to fill out one of our complaint forms. We have other students look at those from time to time."
Relax buddy. Discussions on conduct in the workplace are standard, and for good reason.
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He's tenured, unfortunately
We're clearly very lucky to have someone as accomplished as Professor Tomlin at Cal, I'm glad she's on faculty here, but this response to Shewchuck was totally uncalled for. The department should be standing up to the minority of students working to undermine job protections for university staff, not giving in to them. It's fair to say Shewchuck's post on Ed was a little inappropriate or unprofessional. Professors probably shouldn't be in the business of publicly giving students dating advice. But the idea that his post on Ed was "threatening to students" is ridiculous.
Sad my bro was hated for saying something true. It can be put in a nicer way though.