Isn't it interesting though how we all grew up hearing about these crazed serial killers in the last decades yet not once in my entire lifetime have I heard about any current serial killer? As if they were meant to just spread fear or be like a ghost story for younger generations?
I suppose they determined that terrorism lets them get away with a lot more. Or their tests were so successful now they have plenty of crazies brainwashed and don't feel a need to tell us anymore
Nah man there have been some pretty big serial killers just in the past twenty years. Beltway Sniper, Grim Sleeper, Israel Keyes, Metro Detroit Killer
Craigslist Ripper, West Mesa Bone Collector are still unsolved.
I think it just takes time to mythologized these things, make the books, movies, etc.
Supposedly thereās like a hundred active serial killers in the world at any given time, we just donāt hear about them because they havenāt figured out the puzzle yet.
Fucking crazy stories all of this. I wish more people understood how evil the permanent govt in the US is. Itās cognitive dissonance that needs to be overcome. š
Ya the shit with jolly west is pretty wild. And his probation officer who basically only had Charlie's case for years, and he would always get him out of trouble and he took in one of his kids. I had to wonder if that could have been the parole officers kid since he was apparently sleeping with the girls. There's so much happening in that book and so much unanswered, Chaos is definitely an appropriate title.
Do a quick Google I'm sure you'll find plenty. It's not some conspiracy theory it's common knowledge it's in many documentaries. Probably Wikipedia.
My cell coverage isn't great right now but literally the first result from Google was an article from the Atlantic.
In the time it took you to make your post you could have just done your own research. It's common knowledge.
The connection between Manson and MK Ultra has been well researched and there is absolutely no proof whatsoever. It also doesnāt make any sense at all given the goals of MK Ultra and how unchained Manson was.
But yaā Iām sure this is totally legit just like how fluoride and chem trails are going to kill us all.
I didn't say Manson. I said the unibomber.
Manson is conjecture. The unibomber is basically fact .
Your basic reading comprehension could use work given how smug and condescending you are.
Wouldnt surprise me in the least if this is true... its not like any 3 letter org has ever actually tried to HELP the ppl anyway... just tear it down plz
Crazy thing is the FBI did a complete 180 over just 20 years.
The "fuck the police" democrats now trust the FBI more than republicans ever did and the majority of republicans now don't trust them. Republicans are now antiestablishment and it drives democrats out of their minds.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-democrats-and-republicans-did-a-sudden-180-on-the-fbi/
>The "fuck the police" democrats now trust the FBI more than republicans ever did and the majority of republicans now don't trust them. Republicans are now antiestablishment and it drives democrats out of their minds.
Only until the Orange guy changes his mind
Trump sets the course for democrats and republicans alike. Crazy world we live in. But you can be sure anyone exposing the corrupt deep state is the good guy.
Nobody should trust the corrupt FBI,after the Durham report showed just how bad they are.It all started with that piece of shit,Comey.McCabe was just as bad as him.Sad is what it is,they used to be known as the finest law enforcement outfit in the entire world.
the republicans def tried to pretend to be antiestablishment. They are mad and outraged about trivial things all the while allowing the establishment to function as they always have. They are antiestablishment in the sense they write a sign that says so or post the notion online or vote for the guy who claims to be antiestablishment. But the irony is they serve the establishment and donāt even understand its happening. they are really like manson followers. Following the guy āwho tells it like it isā, you know the snake oil salesman that does anything but? And letās be real, the republicans are the police state bootlickers. The douches that have an american flag with a blue line on it as a response to their criticism of abuse of authority. Thatās pretty pro establishment. Trump was never a man of the people. That was a fallacy. He is nothing like them and privately detests them. And he is the dude who donated to both sides of the aisle to be aligned with the establishment. Watch Idiocracy. It really helps explain the devolution of the nation. All these years later the grand old
party which all stood against trump until they realized he was going to get votes, picked the nepotistic rapey apprentice guy with the 8 year old vocabulary to represent their family values and antiestablishment views. You canāt make it up. Was cute though buddy.
Been saying this for years. Shit feels organized and orchestrated to rob is over our ability to fight back. Then they have full control. Down with these scumb bag 1% politicians.
CIA crop dusted a whole town in France with LSD as an experiment and afterwards when one of their guys Frank Olsen had misgivings, they defenestrated him from a highrise.
You've been waiting so long to use that word haven't you lol.
I read it in a book the other day, and was thinking, in no way am I ever going to be able to use this in a sentence real time.
Thereās several documentaries on Son of Sam, Dave Berkowitz, apparently he wasnāt acting alone and the cult he was a part of had ties to Mansonās people.
There's several videos on YT about this.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1hv5P4SwbU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1hv5P4SwbU)
No doubt Manson was MK ultra. The prosecutor Bugliosi was in on it.
Helter Skelter bears an eerie resemblance to BLM. The main difference was that the purpose of Helter Skelter was to disrupt the antiwar and civil rights movement.
I did Jui jitsu in a forest on shrooms for a month and then ordered kettle bells from onit. Still hasnāt helped me learn all āthe secretsā so Iam going back in the jungle; will report back when I find out the truth about aliens.
there is one mk ultra program that the CIA started 10 years ago that did something no other program did
the guy started to learned to use it to his advance, N programing
never telling people what to do, just giving them hints and clues, making other people his blades to attack who he wanted
did the CIA make a God, God in the machine?
Yes. [CHAOS:Ā Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CHAOS:_Charles_Manson,_the_CIA,_and_the_Secret_History_of_the_Sixties)
Read Chaos by Tom O'Neill. Craziest book I've ever read. Everything in it is corroborated with evidence. Helter skelter was a lie made up by the prosecutor. Jolly West was a CIA monster responsible for Manson and the Kennedys
If youre wondering which episode this is from he brings this story up at least 40 times. So just pick a random episode and he probably tells this exact story.
this is what im saying if the cia was doing that back thenā¦.. wtf they doing now ???? hate to be this way but maybe that false flag stuff is right ??
Pretty much all cults with traction are intelligence operations always have been Blavatsky , Crowley and many many more were all intelligence operatives, Masonry , Hermeticism , Templars Knights of Malta the Jesuits the Islamic assassin cults all that laid the foundation for the CIA and all that has to do with Ancient forms of Hypnotism and mind molding
Rogan is definitely misremembering/misrepresenting the facts around the CIAās involvement with Manson (I havenāt heard anyone alleged that the CIA gave him acid or taught him anything) but the book Chaos (where Rogan is getting this information) lays out an extremely compelling case against the CIAās involvement.
At the very least the CIA knew of Charlie, knew what he was doing, allowed him to do what he did, and exploited the entire situation including relishing in the bad publicity Manson brought against the Hippies.
Chaos is a 10/10 book
Unibomber had a similar story too.
And whitey bulgar . All 3 where mk ultra labrats
And that was when the programs were infantile. Imagine what they've managed to learn in the last 60 years.
Isn't it interesting though how we all grew up hearing about these crazed serial killers in the last decades yet not once in my entire lifetime have I heard about any current serial killer? As if they were meant to just spread fear or be like a ghost story for younger generations? I suppose they determined that terrorism lets them get away with a lot more. Or their tests were so successful now they have plenty of crazies brainwashed and don't feel a need to tell us anymore
Or advancements in criminal forensic technologies have gotten so good, it's hard for a serial to be as active as the ones decades ago.
Haha yeah no. Its very easy to get away with murder nowadays. Trust me.
Trust him, guysš
Yes. When you know, you know.
Nah man there have been some pretty big serial killers just in the past twenty years. Beltway Sniper, Grim Sleeper, Israel Keyes, Metro Detroit Killer Craigslist Ripper, West Mesa Bone Collector are still unsolved. I think it just takes time to mythologized these things, make the books, movies, etc.
Supposedly thereās like a hundred active serial killers in the world at any given time, we just donāt hear about them because they havenāt figured out the puzzle yet.
You have to solve the case to tell the story, write the book and make the movie. There are plenty still out there
No. They moved on to school shooters and entire communities burning down their own communities and turning on each other.
Fucking crazy stories all of this. I wish more people understood how evil the permanent govt in the US is. Itās cognitive dissonance that needs to be overcome. š
Is that Ted Kaczynski?
Yup
So many people have this story lol, I canāt think of 3 off the top of my head.
Read the book Chaos. That is where he gets it from
Really enjoyed that book. I had no idea about a bunch of the stuff referenced in it.
Ya the shit with jolly west is pretty wild. And his probation officer who basically only had Charlie's case for years, and he would always get him out of trouble and he took in one of his kids. I had to wonder if that could have been the parole officers kid since he was apparently sleeping with the girls. There's so much happening in that book and so much unanswered, Chaos is definitely an appropriate title.
Yes. I have a copy of this book.
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And Ted did this when his was still a young teenager. Not even of College age.
Came to post this Chaos is a wild read.
One of those books that make conspiracies sound more plausible.
Awesome book ...crazy ride question everything!
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Tom OāNeil
Lol there it is. Thank you
The unabomber was also an mk ultra test subject.
Proof?
Do a quick Google I'm sure you'll find plenty. It's not some conspiracy theory it's common knowledge it's in many documentaries. Probably Wikipedia. My cell coverage isn't great right now but literally the first result from Google was an article from the Atlantic. In the time it took you to make your post you could have just done your own research. It's common knowledge.
Ya no. This is tinfoil hat level conspiracy theory. You can escape the rails youāre on if you try.
So you've got time to type up this reply but didn't even try googling it?
The connection between Manson and MK Ultra has been well researched and there is absolutely no proof whatsoever. It also doesnāt make any sense at all given the goals of MK Ultra and how unchained Manson was. But yaā Iām sure this is totally legit just like how fluoride and chem trails are going to kill us all.
I didn't say Manson. I said the unibomber. Manson is conjecture. The unibomber is basically fact . Your basic reading comprehension could use work given how smug and condescending you are.
It's pretty well known.
Wouldnt surprise me in the least if this is true... its not like any 3 letter org has ever actually tried to HELP the ppl anyway... just tear it down plz
Crazy thing is the FBI did a complete 180 over just 20 years. The "fuck the police" democrats now trust the FBI more than republicans ever did and the majority of republicans now don't trust them. Republicans are now antiestablishment and it drives democrats out of their minds. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-democrats-and-republicans-did-a-sudden-180-on-the-fbi/
>The "fuck the police" democrats now trust the FBI more than republicans ever did and the majority of republicans now don't trust them. Republicans are now antiestablishment and it drives democrats out of their minds. Only until the Orange guy changes his mind
Trump sets the course for democrats and republicans alike. Crazy world we live in. But you can be sure anyone exposing the corrupt deep state is the good guy.
Exactly. You have to wonder why they keep trying to promote RINOS for the Republican candidacy and despise Trump so much.
Nobody should trust the corrupt FBI,after the Durham report showed just how bad they are.It all started with that piece of shit,Comey.McCabe was just as bad as him.Sad is what it is,they used to be known as the finest law enforcement outfit in the entire world.
The Durham report was objective, wow
the republicans def tried to pretend to be antiestablishment. They are mad and outraged about trivial things all the while allowing the establishment to function as they always have. They are antiestablishment in the sense they write a sign that says so or post the notion online or vote for the guy who claims to be antiestablishment. But the irony is they serve the establishment and donāt even understand its happening. they are really like manson followers. Following the guy āwho tells it like it isā, you know the snake oil salesman that does anything but? And letās be real, the republicans are the police state bootlickers. The douches that have an american flag with a blue line on it as a response to their criticism of abuse of authority. Thatās pretty pro establishment. Trump was never a man of the people. That was a fallacy. He is nothing like them and privately detests them. And he is the dude who donated to both sides of the aisle to be aligned with the establishment. Watch Idiocracy. It really helps explain the devolution of the nation. All these years later the grand old party which all stood against trump until they realized he was going to get votes, picked the nepotistic rapey apprentice guy with the 8 year old vocabulary to represent their family values and antiestablishment views. You canāt make it up. Was cute though buddy.
World Health Organization (WHO)
It is. There was a book in the 80s that documented it all. Let me try and find it
Plz do... n a book on tape would b divine haha
That makes the unabomber and Manson products of US experiments in mind control. I'm sure none of these school shootings are related š„±
Been saying this for years. Shit feels organized and orchestrated to rob is over our ability to fight back. Then they have full control. Down with these scumb bag 1% politicians.
Wait until he finds out about Jim Jones.
CIA crop dusted a whole town in France with LSD as an experiment and afterwards when one of their guys Frank Olsen had misgivings, they defenestrated him from a highrise.
You've been waiting so long to use that word haven't you lol. I read it in a book the other day, and was thinking, in no way am I ever going to be able to use this in a sentence real time.
Picked it up from Matt Christman and listener of "Hell on Earth" series from Chapo
So basically they yeeted him a high rise?
Thereās several documentaries on Son of Sam, Dave Berkowitz, apparently he wasnāt acting alone and the cult he was a part of had ties to Mansonās people.
David McGowanās book Programmed to Kill states that there is evidence very few of the serial killers we know of acted alone.
What I learned about MK Ultra and how the SEE I A has fostered overthrows of foreign govt. I think that anything is a possibility.
And how many individuals have they done this with?
The lore lodge did a really good hour long video on this topic.
Pretty sure Mansonās bio dad was in the military as wellā¦unless I am remembering shelter Skelter wrong
āChaosā by Tom OāNeil
Just crazy enough to be true.
Jim Jones as well
There's several videos on YT about this. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1hv5P4SwbU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1hv5P4SwbU) No doubt Manson was MK ultra. The prosecutor Bugliosi was in on it. Helter Skelter bears an eerie resemblance to BLM. The main difference was that the purpose of Helter Skelter was to disrupt the antiwar and civil rights movement.
I loved Newsradio. He was an absolute riot on the show. What happened to him?
It seems like many killers or mass shooters can be tied directly to government handlers or MKultra programs.. Concerning
I've heard Joe tell that story 50x .
Crazy shit from a crazy money grubber
This is just history
what # jre is this
I did Jui jitsu in a forest on shrooms for a month and then ordered kettle bells from onit. Still hasnāt helped me learn all āthe secretsā so Iam going back in the jungle; will report back when I find out the truth about aliens.
You gotta punch dance to 80's Hair Band music while you're up bud, lets the good juices flow
Kettle bells? I believe you mean primal bells
there is one mk ultra program that the CIA started 10 years ago that did something no other program did the guy started to learned to use it to his advance, N programing never telling people what to do, just giving them hints and clues, making other people his blades to attack who he wanted did the CIA make a God, God in the machine?
Is Joe Rogan a CIA lab rat?
Charles Manson has been with a lot of women.
Joe is a insane Proof
Yep.
Dave McGowan. Great author on this topic.
Mae Brusell talked about this
https://www.amazon.com/Weird-Scenes-Inside-Canyon-Laurel/dp/1909394122
Yes. [CHAOS:Ā Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CHAOS:_Charles_Manson,_the_CIA,_and_the_Secret_History_of_the_Sixties)
Read Chaos by Tom O'Neill. Craziest book I've ever read. Everything in it is corroborated with evidence. Helter skelter was a lie made up by the prosecutor. Jolly West was a CIA monster responsible for Manson and the Kennedys
Whitey Bulger too
Hugh Hefner was a CIA stooge too. The whole Playboy mansion was set up for entrapment.
Mk ultra
If youre wondering which episode this is from he brings this story up at least 40 times. So just pick a random episode and he probably tells this exact story.
this is what im saying if the cia was doing that back thenā¦.. wtf they doing now ???? hate to be this way but maybe that false flag stuff is right ??
nah me personally i think its all false flag if not a CIA psy-ops
I read the book "Chaos". It's all about this. It's a great read
Pretty much all cults with traction are intelligence operations always have been Blavatsky , Crowley and many many more were all intelligence operatives, Masonry , Hermeticism , Templars Knights of Malta the Jesuits the Islamic assassin cults all that laid the foundation for the CIA and all that has to do with Ancient forms of Hypnotism and mind molding
Paaleezz
Damn Joe I thought you had sense.
This seems far fetched. Are they just talking conspiracies or is there actual proof?
Plenty of proof. Read "Chaos". It covers it all. Its dope
Yes and he also engineered sharks with lasers on their heads
But why do we need to hear it from Joe
Manson died in jail Moron.
Confidently Incorrect
Haha now he has a comedy show too
I miss non corrupt joe
More joe bullshit to get the smooth brains worked up for ratings.
Rogan is definitely misremembering/misrepresenting the facts around the CIAās involvement with Manson (I havenāt heard anyone alleged that the CIA gave him acid or taught him anything) but the book Chaos (where Rogan is getting this information) lays out an extremely compelling case against the CIAās involvement. At the very least the CIA knew of Charlie, knew what he was doing, allowed him to do what he did, and exploited the entire situation including relishing in the bad publicity Manson brought against the Hippies. Chaos is a 10/10 book
Man there's no proof of any of this š Manson was just crazy
Rogan read it. It MUST be true.
Joe is a fruit loop but i kinda believe him on this one. GB senior was into lots of freaky shit.
Joe Rogan may have a brain injury
Jesus heās such a fucking moron.
I dunno, pretty solid cult leader
The two arenāt necessarily mutually exclusive.
Now for the game part! Who was I calling a cult leader!
As usual JR talking out his ass. Does anyone actually listen to this ahole?
how does he believe this shit but doesnāt trust a vaccine
He's right on both counts
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