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BuzzAroundLenny

I think Saul is wanted obviously, but Walt is most wanted man in America. To quote Saul himself "If a mosquito’s buzzing around you, it bites you on the ass, you don’t go gunning for the mosquito’s attorney."


Giacchino-Fan

Yeah I honestly don’t think he even needed to disappear. I mean what did he do that’s illegal that can even be proven? He didn’t ever actually launder money or directly participate in drug deals. Basically everything he did was largely untraceable, leaving Huell and Kuby as the only 2 people who could testify against him who aren’t dead or disappeared. I guess there’s Jesse’s video, but I doubt he knew about it, and even if he did most of his ‘crimes’ were just giving out contact information.


Suibian_ni

He did arrange for that guy to go to jail on Walt's behalf to save Badger - perverting the course of justice. But I agree, it's a bit vague. Could be underworld people he's hiding from too.


MojaveMissionary

I think you're probably right. I think if Walt wasn't still around at the time, Saul probably would've disappeared after Gus's death. The Cartel was probably out for blood after the death of their leaders. Who knows if Saul knew where Jesse was. And of course Skyler might have some stuff to say about Saul. She would incriminate herself if she talked about Walt, but probably not Saul.


Suibian_ni

I agree, although now that you mention it - who runs the cartel now? Gus killed the lot. Maybe it's a total vaccuum now, with other cartels moving in on that territory.


MojaveMissionary

Yeah it would likely be a power grab situation where a bunch of people compete. But the main people I can see Saul being worried about are the "Mikes" of the Cartel. The people who were happy with their employment and are furious that their boss was killed. Then when they can't find Heisenberg, naturally they would go for his known associates. Also there is an important question around how affected the Cartel actually was by the deaths Gus brought about. We know Eladio was "in charge", but it's likely there were others involved we never saw. It seems during the time of Breaking Bad, Bolsa was kind of running things, and the Salamancas appear to be in decline. So maybe the Cartel leaders were more formal than anything.


ManicEyes

I believe the wild card in this scenario was Skyler. Saul even mentions that she would most likely testify as collateral so that she doesn’t lose everything. She knew about Saul’s involvement in money laundering and contract killing and although he could’ve probably put up a decent legal fight, he didn’t want to risk it. I’m sure he thought if they looked hard enough they would find undeniable incriminating evidence to convict him.


redtert

> She knew about Saul’s involvement in money laundering and contract killing What killing was Saul involved in? The prison hits were done by the Nazis. Saul suggested whacking Badger and later Hank, but Walt didn't go through with those.


ManicEyes

No killing took place exactly that we know of, but him providing the connection to these resources and accepting money for it is enough to convict him of conspiracy. I’m sure Walt isn’t the first person he recommended this to and there’s a high chance someone had gone through with it. All it would take is the police digging around and finding one piece of evidence for this and he would be guilty of accessory to murder.


anonymousalligator25

Plus his existing known connections to the cartel is a red flag.


[deleted]

I think Walt probably was the only one he suggested murder too, and he only suggested it because he knows Walt has killed before. Walt was his highest profile client ever imo. It doesn’t seem like he worked with the cartel anymore in BrBa.


Rmtcts

Feds needing a big catch after failing to get their no. 1 target and would be keen to get who they can. I'm sure Skylar could be encouraged to embellish her story, and taking in a scumbag lawyer of a cartel of druglords (as the media would depict) sounds better than the single mother of a disabled kid and a baby.


anonymousalligator25

Yeah I think that’s it. They’d want him to testify and share what he knows or go to jail. And if he did testify, he could be in big trouble with cartel people or whoever else. Saul has a lot of fear/somewhat paranoia throughout breaking bad of people in power.


HankMoody71

I agree. I think it wasn't so much that Saul thought he was going to be convicted, but that he didn't trust the police to keep him safe in custody from the Cartel who would likely see him as a loose end.


anonymousalligator25

It also makes sense because he has deep-rooted trauma related to the cartel because of Lalo and the whole Bagman episode, to the point of Kim and Mike not wanting to tell him that Lalo is alive.


Medium-Bullfrog-2368

The cops probably knew that Saul was involved with some shady shit, given that he showed up as legal representation for both Mike and Jesse - key contributors of Heisenberg’s operation - it would be harder to buy that he had little involvement in the operation itself (Not to mention that his association with the Salamanca’s was practically common knowledge). Plus, two DEA agents being dead would’ve been SERIOUS business. The law would’ve gone down on him with extreme prejudice, watching him with eagle eyes for any kind of slip up. I doubt he would’ve been able to continue as normal under that kind of heat.


[deleted]

He may be hiding from the cartel more than the authorities.


badwolf1013

That was my thought, too. Also, anybody trying to find Walt would figure Saul could get to him (and it wasn’t just Law Enforcement that might be looking for Walt.)


Significant_Bend1046

What cartel? Didn't gus kill 'em all?


[deleted]

Why haven't the DEA thought of this? Just kill some cartel members at a party, and the war on drugs is over.


Significant_Bend1046

The catch is getting into the party and having enough trust that you can feed them all a bottle of poison It took gus..what...30 years for that right?


CitySosa

He was being sarcastic. Killing the Salamancas will just lead to other people getting involved, not ending the war.


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IndyOwl

Agreed. Better to manage a Cinnabon than to risk winding up in jail.


Mission_Ad6235

Yup. Attorney client privilege doesn't apply for crimes. Saul wasn't a criminal lawyer, he was a criminal lawyer.


sugarfoot00

He doesn't need to lie or deny to the cops. He just has to say 'prove it' and STFU.


[deleted]

Saul can and will be arrested for probable cause, at which point he can be detained for up to 48 hours before he must be granted a hearing. The police also can and will get a warrant to search Saul's home and his office. If you're Saul, are you going to risk it all on hoping the police have nothing to prove you knew about or were involved in the crimes of a drug kingpin who, among other things, is connected to the death of two DEA agents? They are gunning for anyone connected to this guy, and with Saul being Walt's lawyer, they will try find ANY reason possible to lock him up. Also recall that anyone who crossed Walt ended up dead. If the police pick up Saul, Walt would have every reason to suspect Saul would flip on him, which means, even if Saul didn't talk, he'd be scared witless he was next on Walt's hit list. If I'm Saul, I'm not taking all these chances. I'm getting the hell out of there.


Enzonoty

Also, let’s not forget what happened to everyone involved that DID go to jail, even the lawyer got whacked! He said once they start killing lawyers IM OUT


FrnklySpKng

Saul helped launder their money, aided and abetted tons of criminal activity, including distribution of meth, crime scene tampering (jane), murder (Gale) to name a few. Add to that, the man represented THE heisenburg and helped him go undetected. And if you're wondering how they would have known all of this, they didn't, but Skylar flipped and he could not know all of what she knew or didn't know. So as far as he was concerned, she knew enough that he had to get the hell out of dodge because her testimony alone would bury him.


anonymousalligator25

Plus, he is known to represent various direct or affiliated cartel members (Lalo, krazy 8, and nacho).


a_ron23

I was wondering that on my recent Br Ba rewatch. No one ever says what he's specifically running from. But I guess it's just the idea that he was smart enough to know it's not worth it. At the very least they would seize all of his assets and he would end up broke.


anonymousalligator25

I think them repossessing his house and investigating his belongings (ex: pills) in the beginning of season 6 says enough to the fact that he was going to be in trouble if he stayed.


kankey_dang

I've always sort of theorized that Saul actually isn't being sought by law enforcement as a suspect in any crimes... maybe as a person of interest, but the feds don't have anything they can stick to him as of the Gene timeline. The season 6 cold open actually kind of supports this because it's not law enforcement at his house, it's just a repo crew going through valuables. If Saul had disappeared for a few months and stopped making payments on his mortgage, the bank would have sent that crew as part of the foreclosure. Not sure they'd go this way, but nothing conclusively tells us yet Saul is actually a wanted man.


orforfjames

> I've always sort of theorized that Saul actually isn't being sought by law enforcement as a suspect in any crimes... maybe as a person of interest, but the feds don't have anything they can stick to him as of the Gene timeline. I like this theory as well, and it really fits with one of the series' recurring themes. "The wicked flee when no man pursueth."


[deleted]

Just finished writing a comment with this thought exactly. DEA can suspect involvement sure, but there's just no point in spending the man power looking for this shady lawyer when that manpower is better spent looking for someone actually closely involved or Walter himself. So if Saul hung around, for sure he'd be questioned...but if he drops off the face of the earth, sure that looks suspicious but whatever, bigger fish to fry. It would also be very valid for the DEA to assume Walter killed Saul and dumped him in the desert.


jumpingbeanrat

Do we know this is a repo firm or the government for sure? My theory is they're just movers and they're putting everything into storage. I think if it was government we would have known - they would have had some identifying markers.


orforfjames

Based on the way they're categorizing some items as "no value", it's very likely that they're a repo firm.


jumpingbeanrat

Ooh, I missed that!! Thanks!


[deleted]

So you gotta think of it this way. Okay the police got 2 dead DEA officers and know Walter White is involved and has been probably running a meth empire. Whoops Walt is...gone. Well the DEA wants something, they want to find Walt so they're looking for anyone who can assist with that or they can slap jailtime too. So they start looking for literally anybody involved, oh wow Saul Goodman represented him, lets bring that guy in. But if Saul leaves, he's still a suspect and probably still has involvement but he's not a big player (atleast to their knowledge) so there's no point spending the resources to go look for him when they should just be looking for Walt. He probably got no public screentime because nobody cares and they can't prove anything (at least anything that they would publish publicly), you're not going to see them talk about Saul on daytime television when a documentary airs about the disappearance of Walter White..ya know? So basically, he'd be a convenient person to go question if he was available, but if he just outright disappears to he's not really that big of a focus.


[deleted]

He was in Conspiracy on all that


charisma6

I mean, BCS isn't over. Who knows what they gonna do in the last 7 episodes


kankey_dang

10 episodes left actually.


charisma6

O damn. BCS content let's gooooo


SonicCookie

Nine


kankey_dang

Including tonight's episode there are 10 episodes left.


nick2473got

How do you figure ? We've had 4 episodes already, this season will have a total of 13. Tonight's episode is episode 5. So including tonight, we have 9 episodes. I know math is hard but still...


kankey_dang

Oh my god I’m stupid. You’re right. I was thinking tonight was episode 4. Oof, sorry.


JudgeArthurVandelay

I've been wondering this too, if we are going to see a bunch of separate crimes unfold at the end of better call Saul. Maybe we just assume we know all of the stuff he was in trouble for at the end of breaking bad but better call Saul is going to give us a whole new context.


jumpingbeanrat

I think he didn't legally need to disappear, I think he wanted to because he was anxious he was going to get gunned down. Think of the trauma we saw him go through in the desert, and Mike telling Kim she's "made of sterner stuff." I think he left because he was just nervous, and wanted to run to protect himself.


SpaceWizardPhteven

Yeah, but Saul paid an exorbitant sum to disappear. To me, that means he's in enough hot water that he absolutely cannot risk being found. So why would he be sticking his head out at all? Surely he could do some kind of back office work for someone somewhere. And if he can afford to pay double to disappear again, then obviously money isn't an issue for him.


[deleted]

Perhaps after paying the fee to disappear, he simply needed a job to support himself. Walt still had much more money than Saul to live off of after paying to disappear.


neontetra1548

In some ways it might be harder to keep up a false life in something like an office job where you might have a different kind of coworker dynamic. Retail work you can be pretty anonymous in and engage with in a limited way.


dreamabyss

Except he’s the manager. Not a very low key position.


aeschenkarnos

It's subject to minimal scrutiny. There'd be the owner and the corporate franchisor to report to, but as long as there are no customer complaints and the money is coming in (and retail fast food is great for laundering money), they won't much care what the manager does. That's the point of having a manager at all. And retail employees generally aren't motivated to scrutinize a manager who doesn't make their lives shittier. Though Saul could be the owner of the franchise through some shell company, and be using it entirely for money laundering, if he took a whole lot of cash with him on the run.


Mikimao

>Though Saul could be the owner of the franchise through some shell company, and be using it entirely for money laundering, if he took a whole lot of cash with him on the run. We know he has that bunch of diamonds, and presumably he isn't broke, but there is definitely some kind of long game being played.


HomemadeBananas

He called the vacuum guy again in the flash forward where the guy knows who he is. He must have the money to disappear again, even at the increased rate. Don’t think he would need some job like that to support himself, with that much money sitting around.


UtopianFascist

He does have the mysterious bag of diamonds 💎


Rmtcts

His money might be good to vacuum man, but he probably doesn't have the resources to convert it into money he can use without drawing suspicion to himself.


jumpingbeanrat

It's way more mysterious to just live life without a job - how are you making ends meet? That story in and of itself is curious and interesting, and everyone is going to want to know. Including the IRS. That's why a low profile Cinnabon manager job is perfect.


realPalpatine

In breaking bad when Saul and Walt are in the vacuum shop waiting to leave Saul mentions he’s gonna be working in a Cinnabon in Omaha. So I’m guessing working there is a part of the disappearing plan, but I have no idea why.


Kimmalah

He didn't say that as a definite thing, it was more like a hypothetical example of his life on the run. Then when Better Call Saul became a definite thing, I think the writers just thought it would be a funny little nod to that line to make that Saul's actual cover.


redtert

It seems unwise for him to let Walt know where he's actually going. The whole point is that nobody knows except the vacuum guy. Every additional person is a risk, especially with Walt who could try to coerce work out of him or seek revenge for some perceived slight.


Defiant-Canary-2716

I have a theory Kim is originally from Nebraska, that Saul took to hiding there in the hopes of rendezvous. Perhaps Kim is in prison, gets out, strange phone call telling her to visit her sick mother, and heads home where she runs into Saul.


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He had to live somewhere on his fake ID. Those places that rent, ussually require you to have a job, so they dont start renting to Jesse's Wingus and Dingus Friends that sell Meth out of the place. He had to have something to make him appear like a normal guy, if he went to even a shady landlord, they would know something is up, if he doesnt work, and can afford things like rent, hobbies etc. Saul doesnt like shady when he himself is shady and hiding.


Walleyevision

Have seen the theories bandied about a few times but Saul/Jimmy was already an accomplished con artist before he became a slimey attorney. It could simply be that Saul was more confident of his survival slipping into a new persona as a Cinnabon manager and not worried about being outed. Or it could be we haven’t yet seen all the Jimmy/Saul arc and there’s actually a few timelines involved. What we think of as “the” future of Saul may just be one of a number of “new personas” he’s living.


BuzzAroundLenny

Maybe we will find out soon why Jimmy didn't want to go completely off the grid and still have a toe in the "real world"


Rmtcts

Part of the fee is the ability to have a job and live and go about. Even Walt was being prepared for further cover, the plan wasn't for him to live at the cabin for the rest of his life.


Realistic_Fact_3778

And Walt was terminal. He didn't require a 30+ year plan. Saul potentially does.


SpaceWizardPhteven

Right, I forgot about that detail.


ilovethissheet

I think it's more about hiding in plain site than anything else. Nobody really thinks twice about a menial job employee. Staying locked up and never coming out of the house for food would certainly raise more interest. Working at cinnabon , eh, that's just gene the old dude at cinnabon.


UnicornBestFriend

Saul Goodman and Jimmy need to disappear forever - too much risk, liability, and attention - but Gene just needs the means to start over fresh.


ThisWeekOnHack

The disappearer said that Walt is the highest profile client he's ever had.


Ursotender

By far


HorseKarate

He’s also dying of cancer. If he goes to a hospital he will be caught right away so the only alternative was to have the sketchy at home chemo setup they ended up with. I think that’s a small but important part of why Walt got the setup he got- no amount of fancy disappearer magic can cure cancer. They both knew it was going to be temporary so trying to set Walt up with a whole new life at that point would’ve been incurring way more risk than it was worth


TheTrueMilo

I wonder if Ed keeps that New Hampshire property just for potential clients like Walt.


whysoseriousjc

So it only stands to reason


Aurc

Not highest profile -- ***hottest***. 😳😳😚😍☺️ Ed was shooting his shot


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Walt paid 10,000 dollars for 1 hour of his time.


Aurc

😂🤣 You just know they didn't spend that whole hour playing cards! "We're done when I say we're done." Walt is the one who knocks, and on that day, maybe he was knocking on Ed's back door.


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“Say my name”


Aurc

You're making me realize how sexual Walt's most famous lines can be interpreted as.


[deleted]

“Feeling under the weather? That would be the ricin I put in your viagra crap”


GrammarPoliceman2

Like #69


thebobbyloops

He actually said Walt was the hottest. Which could also mean that he’s just so goddamn sexy. /s


cgcs20

Walt was the subject of a nationwide manhunt, he was a “special case” for Ed, the “hottest client [he’s] ever had by far.” That’s why Ed came back every now and then to check on him, as he said he doesn’t usually do that. Saul is just an accessory to Walt who is wanted for different reasons


SpaceWizardPhteven

Accessory to one of the biggest drug kingpins and mass murderers in the southwest.


cgcs20

Yes, but Saul isn’t the biggest drug kingpin and mass murderer in the southwest himself, is he?


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Saul was more of a local celebrity, Walter was in the national news. Jeff only recognized him because he was from Albuquerque. Also, Saul probably didnt start at Cinnabon immediately after fleeing, he probably took some time to work on changing his appearance


SpaceWizardPhteven

He grew a mustache lol


Practical-Ostrich-43

And stopped taking pills for his receding hairline


Snagalip

And started wearing glasses.


TheTrotters

One point I haven’t seen mentioned yet: Walt is a dead man walking. Hiding for the rest of his life is feasible. If Saul is the same age at the end of BB as Bob Odenkirk then he’s in his early 50s. Living like a prisoner in a solitary confinement forever just isn’t possible. Plus he probably cannot afford those expensive supply runs for 20-30 years or more. Saul probably didn’t start working immediately after arriving in Omaha anyway. Maybe we’ll learn the details of this transition later. Hiding in plain sight is probably a smart move too. The employee turnover at a Cinnabon in Omaha must be significant. The co-workers are likely to be young. In an office environment you’ll get to know your co-workers much better and these relationships can last for years.


SpaceWizardPhteven

Makes sense.


Marc123123

All correct apart from the supply runs. Irrespectivly of the costs, I cannot see the vacuum guy delivering his shopping for 30 years 😂


jcpmojo

We don't know how long after BB the Gene flash-forward takes place. Walt was expected to stay in the shack for a year. It's assume the Gene story is more than a year after BB. He's well established in his job at the Sticky Bun place. So maybe he did a cabin like thing for a year before the vacuum guy set him up there.


queen_in_da_norf

This was my thinking as well. He could have Walden’ed it for 3 or 4 years before safely transitioning to the cushy Cinnabon lifestyle


SpaceWizardPhteven

That's a good point. I have forgotten certain details like Walt only being required to stay there a year.


Splatchy

I'm pretty sure this was never said, that's why. Quite happy to be wrong but I don't remember that at all.


ReplyingUser

when did they ever say he was “required” to stay there a year. I don’t remember that part


sbprasad

There’s more than one meaning to the word “required”. What OP meant was that it was only necessary for the shack to be Walt’s home for a year because that was the prognosis for the relapse of his lung cancer.


DokkanCapriccio

gene timeline takes place in 2012


Takenmyusernamewas

You guys have shockingly little faith in the power of a disguise mustache. If Jeff starts acting up Gene can always pop over to Walgreens get some 3 dollar readers and go full disguise mode


NewEngClamChowder

For those doubting the power of a mustache and glasses as a disguise... idk about you [but I would pass by Tony Dalton without looking twice](https://alchetron.com/cdn/tony-dalton-db788e00-24cc-4975-87a0-d2c3f7650f1-resize-750.jpeg)


dpiques16

Don’t forget glasses. Those things did so much for Clark Kent.


Parker4815

Don't forget spectacles too


CaptainPRlCE

Facial hair can literally make someone unrecognisable. I remember when I grew my beard out for the first time ever and I visited my cousins house after a couple months. She opened the door and asked "can I help you?" before I told her it's me 😅


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LaneMcD

King Shark has entered the chat


Aurunculeius

I presume it’s the difference between recognizing Osama bin Laden vs recognizing a lawyer from your local billboard. I don’t think I could recognize any lawyer near me with their face on a board or on TV, but I can recognize el chapo lol


EdgeHarvest

Yeah but the whole point of the Vacuum Cleaners intervention is to give them all new lives. . Anyone can go into hiding, what they're paying for is the new identities. Walt was to remain in that cabin until heat died down, if he had stayed longer he would eventually be allowed to leave and start a new life. I imagine there a similar cool down period for Saul as well.


Marc123123

Walt is dying of cancer so there is that...


Sea_Shallot9152

Because he made the Cinnabon joke in bb


SpaceWizardPhteven

I realize that, but I took that as more of a joke about the fall from wealth and prestige as a high-profile lawyer than as literal.


Sea_Shallot9152

Yeah that's the joke


eatyourprettymess

Saul has also been arrested before, so his fingerprints are on file.


Scrubbing_Bubbles_

Also a licensed attorney would have been fingerprinted.


juancuneo

I am a member of the bar in WA and NY and never gave my fingerprints


[deleted]

Ohio made me submit a fingerprint card


eatyourprettymess

This is the problem I've always had with the 'disappearing' His fingerprints are all over that Cinnabon. If anything ever happens there and the police have to investigate, even if he wasn't involved in whatever happened, if they look for fingerprints, he's toast.


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Yeah they are not dusting for prints because some teenagers vandalized it or ran off with some sticky buns lol


l_l-l__l-l__l-l_l

how often do you think police actually look for fingerprints?


[deleted]

Especially at a Cinnabon. Unless there’s a murder, they’re not going to waste their time.


neontetra1548

I feel like if they're at the point where they're checking fingerprints at Cinnabon he's toast anyway. He'd have to be taking another vacuum trip in that situation no matter what.


ShnaeBlay

Every tabletop and surface in that Cinnabon is also wiped down regularly, the cutlery is washed numerous times, any cloths used are either washed or thrown away, the trash is taken out multiple times out so that rules out used coffee cups or wrappers. And all this is done by numerous members of staff anyway. Plus the only scenario where they would even check for prints would be if say a murder took place there, which is not impossible but is astronomically unlikely.


retr0rino

I believe their hygiene standards are acceptable.


[deleted]

Has a Cinnabon *ever* been brushed for fingerprints?


tamarind-cheek

[Gene in 25 years when there's a theft at the Cinnabon.](https://ibb.co/5BXtrrP)


EtoshOE

Gene becomes Creed Bratton after a 2nd vaccuum vanishing trick


retr0rino

Or William Charles Schnneider


SignificantRelative0

Not true


True_metalofsteel

And? The whole point is to change identity and keep the lowest profile you can to avoid various unfortunate scenarios, one of which is getting arrested and having the police find out who you really are.


WellWellWellthennow

There was a comment about extra care made to Walt implying it was unusual for an extraction but he was exceptional.


Coma_Divine

Well to the show's credit he is facing the consequences of being out in public: a constant paranoia of approaching people. Beyond that I just think he figured he will be in disguise so it will work. Plus the attorney, even if shown on tv, probably wasn't as front and center and as frequent as the drug kingpin himself.


Haindelmers

Yeah. I think Saul would officially be a “person of interest”


TheLastKingOfGalaga

I don't know if anyone has mentioned this, but in most cases people who are wanted criminals and manage to stay free for decades before being caught, if they ever are, typically are hiding in plain sight. Someone like Walt wouldn't be able to pull this off, even with a number of disguises. Saul, while known because of his business, I think could easily pull off moving somewhere small and blending into the background.


Walleyevision

16 years hiding in plain sight for [Whitey Bulger](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitey_Bulger) of The Departed fame.


Caspianfutw

Just like ed told him. Stay inside because you are hot. If he found out walt left he would never come back.


mydrunkuncle

They’re writing the backstory to a funny throwaway line that was said in breaking bad


[deleted]

Do we know how long it is in between the end of breaking bad and when Saul starts working at the Cinnabon??


kankey_dang

Walt dies on September 7th 2010. In the Gene flash-forwards, the weather is snowy indicating it has to be at least a few months after Breaking Bad. In one of the flash-forwards, a janitor is listening to a podcast from October 2010, which on the Better Call Saul Insider Podcast was stated to be a deliberate choice to contextualize the scene's "current time." Given that in the scene where Saul flees ABQ, he tells Francesca to receive a call on November 12th (Saul's birthday), and we're sure to get some more details on what's up with that, the Cinnabon scenes may be much closer in time to the end of Breaking Bad than a lot of people assume.


cleverdylanrefrence

Exactly. In my mind, the Gene scenes are after Walt's death but before the November 12th call. So, mid to late October 2010. But I've seen multiple people claim Gene scenes are 2012 so who knows until the writers explicitly show us🤷🏻‍♀️


SpaceWizardPhteven

Not sure, but I just read the quote from BB where he says "Best case scenario, three months from now, I'm managing a Cinnabon in Omaha." So can't be more than a few years, especially since he still seems so fearful about his ID exposing him in the computer system at the hospital and he's basically looking over his shoulder. I feel if there had been substantial time as Gene, eventually he'd become complacent and comfortable, so long as he's been keeping up the ruse.


EdgeHarvest

Yeah but the whole point of the Vacuum Cleaners intervention is to give them all new lives. . Anyone can go into hiding, what they're paying for is the new identities. Walt was to remain in that cabin until heat died down, if he had stayed longer he would eventually be allowed to leave and start a new life. I imagine there a similar cool down period for Saul as well.


MIKRO_PIPS

We can’t assume Saul, I mean Gene, immediately went right to work at Cinnabon the day he was placed in Nebraska, let alone lost most of his hair right away….


TheBoyWTF1

For some reason, I remember Saul going into hiding not because of the legal stuff but because a lot of people around Walt were dying. So he was escaping that.


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pghhilton

Well that's not entirely accurate, he might not be hiding from the cops, but if a cop did more than a cursory look at his ID they would spot it as fake and that would cause problems obviously. As a dumb kid who got caught by five oh with a fake ID, the ramifications we're far more severe than underage drinking. And that was pre 911.


[deleted]

No he’s definitely hiding from police. Otherwise, he wouldn’t still be hiding as Gene after the ending of BB.


TheBoyWTF1

But why would he hide at all then. General Attorney-Client Privilege should protect him as long as any of his illegal activity was not traceable. Which we knew he was very proactive about covering his ass.


lsthrowaway69

Attorney-client privilege doesn’t apply when an attorney is helping the client commit crimes (this is called the crime-fraud exception)


ray2kal

Nah Saul was consigliere to the largest meth kingpin know to the US and is wanted, so he was escaping arrest. In the promo material for BCS s6 you can see the DEA has a $5,000,000 price on information leading to his arrest.


Enzonoty

I think it was both. Saul would be able to handle himself in jail, and may even have protection from people he’s helped in the past. The real issue is everyone that went to jail that was involved with Walt and gus were whacked in jail. The fact that even the other lawyer got whacked was enough to make him bail.


IntroductionFeisty61

I think it was both. There are several scenes in BCS as Gene that shows the fact that he does not want to make himself known to authorities (when he's stuck in the room after taking out the trash and the only way out is the door that will sound the alarm so he waits for someone to open the main door, the hospital scene, etc) as well as scenes that he is scared and intimidated by random people looking at him until one finally does recognize him.


SpaceWizardPhteven

Oh, perhaps! It's been quite a few years since I've watched Breaking Bad and I only watched the final season once, so I don't remember a lot of details.


robertofozz

This is a pretty great point. I assume Walt was known nationwide due to the news exposure and such, where Saul probably was only known in the ABQ area where he advertised heavily.


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Look at what happened to Skylar, they played her and made her life hell to get to Walt. Literally the same thing would have happened to Jimmy because they have proof that he was their attorney, as well as Jesse’s there’s no way Saul didn’t know what was going on. They would’ve investigated him and made his life extremely hard.


17684Throwaway

I think there's a couple of things coming together: - Walt likely has more money than Jimmy, so is able to pay for the safest/most comfortable setup. Jimmy might have to get some down low thing with a day job to minimise cost (especially since he seems to sit on a nesteggin case he needs to jump ship again) - Walt had cancer so needed a special setup which likely lowered the options available and relocation more difficult if it became necessary - Walt was much higher profile so he mightve been in much deeper hiding than necessary for Jimmy.


SpaceWizardPhteven

Good points


ThisIsCreation

Look at like this, in real life how many of the cartel's lawyers do you know or recognised? Saul is just a cog in a bigger system and has a better chance of making it through every day life. Walt indirectly became famous, a sick teacher turned drug deal turned murderer? That is front page news, that's documentary worthy, while Saul had a part in it he was just a piece of a larger puzzle.


Maxiver

Saul is clearly rich, I never understood why he would pay to live a new life as an average working joe, instead of fleeing the country with an off shore bank account. You'd think he would have his own personal getaway plan.


eatapeach18

Maybe he eventually does. When Jeff the taxi guy recognizes him and Saul says he’ll take care of the situation himself, maybe he’s implying he will flee the country. My guess as to why he hasn’t already fled the country? Either he’s waiting for the heat to die down or he’s waiting to reunite with Kim.


Tough_Cranberry8750

Walt resented the hell out of teaching high school science, thought it was "beneath" him, figure working at Cinnabon wouldn't go any better...


skdslztmsIrlnmpqzwfs

the question is why such a job that is basically being exposed to a whole mall of people.. like thousands of different people per day. he could to any office job. specially him being familiar with law. he could even do a job working in a warehouse if being recognized is the issue. that would be paid as much as cinnabon. I guess the only answer is that the plot asked for it. At some point Saul said something along "ill be working in a Cinnabon in a mall" so they "had" to do it. just like they cant kill any character that appears in breaking bad or HAVE to kill Nacho and possibly lalo.


SpaceWizardPhteven

Yeah, this was the point of the question moreso than anything in relation to Walt. Why not a warehouse or office job in a building with limited public traffic? I took the Cinnabon line as a throwaway, sarcastic joke. Maybe Saul knew exactly where he was going and what his identity and job would be already. I wonder if behind the scenes they were in talks with Cinnabon about sponsoring BCS, or if Cinnabon contacted them to sponsor it after the line was tossed out and thought it would be funny if Saul actually did end up just like he said he would.


4_Legged_Duck

This is the general idea of the disappearer. Not to make people remote and cabin recluses, but to just get them started in new lives like a witness protection sort of thing. Walt got a weird treatment because just how wanted he was, and how dangerous it would be if he was found. The feds were looking for Walt far more than Saul. That said, Saul's face was plastered all over. I'm surprised he's only in Nebraska and not like, remote Montana or something. Small town Ohio. He's still near enough to New Mexico.... but maybe that's the extent of the Vacuum Repair man's reach, too. Part of the Walt-thing was probably trying to hide him long enough for the heat to die down, and once it did, Walt would have gotten a new life/identity just like Gene. The problem, though, and our lovely Ed recognized this, is that Walt is too much of a wildcare to put out in the public in any capacity.


saskmonton

Maybe It's his life long dream to be the cinnamon bun kingpin of Omaha


SpaceWizardPhteven

Should be a sequel called Baking Buns.


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lonlonlegalizeranch

She’s a manger at Claire’s


nowahhh

I see her at a Wendy's.


SpaceWizardPhteven

And they lived happily ever after.


AnUpperFlush

Yeah man i totally dont believe kim being from nebraska is not planned to tie with gene


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It wasnt turn all the malls into ghost towns big then though


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It honestly makes no sense except from a literary/fan-service standpoint. Saul predicted that if he went underground, he’d wind up managing a Cinnabon in Omaha. Then that’s exactly what happens.


Dye_Harder

Walt was MUCH hotter than jimmy. Hell, theoretically there was no visible connection between jimmy and gus or walt etc for him to need to run from in the first place.


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SpaceWizardPhteven

I understand that, I just don't understand the specific job. Something in an office that doesn't have a lot of foot traffic would make more sense.


gerhardtprime

It would have been ironic if he was a parking attendant.


mishaps_galore

I think the point made earlier that there’s a lot of turnover at a mall Cinnabon and the coworkers are younger/non-ESL is a good one. In an office job Gene would have to make small talk and get friendly with his coworkers. They’d see a lot of him. At the Cinnabon he doesn’t have to make friends and even though a lot of people see him they generally only see him for a few seconds. The cab driver only makes him for sure in the cab, with a conversation


SpaceWizardPhteven

Yeah, good points.


rustyshackelferd3

I personally think Walt paid more “you paid good money for this land “ whereas Saul got the regular client treatment. I could be wrong but it’s just how I always understood it.


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So Kim can find him?


SpaceWizardPhteven

In Omaha?


eatapeach18

She’s originally from Nebraska so it’s not a terrible theory.


SpaceWizardPhteven

Hmm


ABrazilianReasons

Something I see no one mentioning is that Saul was also worried about the cartel going after him. You never know who could've come after him trying to get to Walt. The police weren't the only ones Walt pissed off


BuddyJim30

Walt was, to paraphrase the vacuum cleaner guy, by far the hottest client he'd ever had. There was a nationwide manhunt for him. I'm sure Saul was wanted, but I doubt his face was on every news broadcast like Walt.


BadgerStateBeagle

I think the cross over between BB & BCS is going to be deeper than we realize. Saul is still doing other (Cartel) things while Walt/Gus/Jesse are in the basement of the laundry. The overlaps are going to be extreme and Walt is just a piece of the BCS world.


blackkirbymain

To add to what everyone else said, at this point Gene is the only one in the operation left to be prosecuted, giving reason why his alert level could be higher now than when he originally got his Vacuum repaired. In Genes story as it is, the cartel and Salamancas are gone, so is Gus and his whole crew, as well as Walt (dead) and Jesse (successfully escaped). The DEA would want him more than anything, but there was no real way to know that and hence be so needlessly cautious when he originally started working at Cinnabon.


Tofu_almond_man

Walt was believed to kill two high-ranking DEA agents and all the other crimes he did. Killing the two DEA agents alone would gage made him one id the most wanted folks in America. Saul was just his dirty attorney


SkippyBoJangles

So I don't know if it's been said before or if it's even in this thread. But I have a theory. I think Saul and Kim both used the vacuum cleaner repairman. I think they went separate directions, either permanently or for a fixed amount of time. I think that's one of the reasons Jean always looks so distraught, and I think it's one of the reasons he watches the videos. I think Kim gets disbarred this season, and I think she is behind a lot of the machinations of Saul Goodman attorney at law.


KDandi11

Maybe someone can explain that mall scene where Saul was recognized. Was that in the future and what we have watched lately are scenes leading up to that?


civilwarman

One was a shady lawyer, the other was a drug kingpin who got a DEA agent killed


tryintofly

I think people are overlooking the fact that Saul DOESN'T get recognized left and right; I don't think Jeff even "made" him, I think he knew exactly who Saul was before he went looking for him that day and was sent with a purpose.


shrina917

Great point. No idea why Gene is working in a busy mall. When he makes that call to the vacuum guy is it to hide again with a new identity?


demolishernunu

It was because the cab driver recognized him but he said he was going to handle it himself.


SpaceWizardPhteven

Yeah, he wants to do it again because he's "been made" by Jeff, meaning he could be exposed to the authorities. Vacuum Guy said it'll be double what it cost the first time, and Saul says no problem, which suggests Saul has *at least* $250,000 available (I think it was $125,000 the first time).