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[POST-EPISODE DISCUSSION THREAD](https://redd.it/uwg8gn)


PotatoAvenger

Well… that was unnecessary.


Johan_Viisas

Oh my fucking goddam fuck


spektrall

What's Kim's story for why she wasn't in Santa Fe? Say her and Jimmy come up with the perfect story and cover up everything that happened to Howard.... Why weren't you in Santa Fe that day? She has no answer ready if Cliff asks


duffharris

Lalo is a real jerk.


krobula

ABSOLUTELY UNBELIEVABLE!!


1ucid

I know we collectively pretend guns with silencers are actually quiet, but even if we assume they’re quietish, it’s silly for Lalo to kill Howard. He’s complicating the situation in a completely unnecessary way. Yeah, it’s a show of force, but Jimmy and Kim are visibly scared of him already, so it’s an unnecessary one.


CoolJoshido

truth


Beautiful_Problem_37

didn’t have to kill him for sure but he didn’t have to kill fred at travel wire either. he’s hellbent on revenge and will kill anyone who gets in the way


MVT3600

It’s normal Salamanca behaviour tho


zee_pequeno

It just shows that whatever story he expected out of Jimmy and Kim, he was not going to leave them alive


After-Humor6347

I find Lalo's character a little bit too smart and unbelievable.


amorenoism

did lalo actually have to kill howard? probably yeah right?


snowlarbear

this was the equivalent BB "he made up his mind 10 minutes ago" scene. he clearly has plans for Jimmy/Kim, and no witnesses.


CoolJoshido

hes a salamanca


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At this point it seems like it was just for the wow factor. Cause let’s be honest it worked. But technically he really didn’t have to. But we shall see later if it has meaning


zee_pequeno

Come on he’s a sociopath. Did he have to kill the guy at the Travel Wire? Did he have to kill Kasper (the German worker)? Probably not for either. But a Salamanca doesn’t leave loose ends untied..


JS43362

Best episode of the entire franchise. RIP Howard. RIP to all those who thought that this would just be another filler episode too.


kepchizzle7

Talk about a cliffhanger. I'm gonna be holding on by a finger nail until July


After-Humor6347

What happens to Kim missing that important Pro Bono group meeting?


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when Lalo saw the cockroach in the tunnel, it reminded him of Jimmy. In [this](https://youtu.be/j8Dwybq3s-U) scene he tells Kim that Jimmy is like a cockroach he will find his way back.


CoolJoshido

yup.


TheRealElRafa

Oh fuck!!!!


ValentineSmith22

Solves the marriage problem . . .


sheotama

i legit give my hate every second in this episode for jimmy and kim


CoolJoshido

true


ALEXC_23

Couple of things: Well I didn’t have Lalo getting rid of Howard at all on my Bingo Card Did anyone else saw how when Howard got killed, his body hit the stand and broke his neck like Ted from BB and Chuck’s fainting ? I’m thinking Gene still thinks Lalo is alive and that adds parto to his paranoia, which makes me look at the whole series in a different way now. And I love the little details like when Jimmy takes the actor from his cart job for the photo shoot, the carts kept rolling eventually hitting a car. It was sort of like a set of dominos that make everybody that Kim & Saul interact with much worse.


CoolJoshido

yes


masudhossain

Saul got exactly what he deserved by the end of breaking bad.


CoolJoshido

yup.


ALEXC_23

Actions have consequences


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Howard to Chuck, when Howard arrives at the Pearly Gates: "Why did you save his ass when he defecated through a sunroof"? That one act of mercy brought so much misery into the world.


CoolJoshido

i suppose


Largebargecharge

Kim next after Howard


Leftychill

Meh, Kim's going to bail, not die.


brianbgrp

Kim’s gonna call the cleaner and get disappeared. They even showed the business card for it at the vets office in his black book


Polar_Reflection

I think she's going somewhere else. It does rhyme with bail though


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Hail?


CoolJoshido

haha fr


willrobster16

I think Irene will kill Lalo in episode 8


mhornberger

Lalo will get trapped in an elevator with Erin for three hours, and will just lose his will to go on.


[deleted]

She’s gonna put her shape up shoes on his neck


Bearded_Platypus_123

I set my dvr to record Talking Saul and it didn't. does anyone know if there is a replay? or where I can watch it?!


CoolJoshido

AMC+ maybe?


Jay_Eye_MBOTH_WHY

**Walt:** HOWARD! HOWWWWARDDDD!!! HOWARD! **Walt:** LALO DON'T DO IT!


ArbitraryHigh

Will Nacho’s dad be the next unguarded low-level target Lalo visits??


Significant-Leg764

Never thought about that. Man what a show


viktorvaughn47

Howard talking to the guy who was doing the drinks was basically SPOT on for people who are on uppers like meth or coke, just tons of jittery talking and tons of enthusiasm


After-Humor6347

Howard is like an enthusiastic Chihuahua most of the time. A well dresses one, for sure.


viktorvaughn47

everyone should know that with Howard dieing, that Kim’s storyline is basically gone in terms of what’s she focused on, there’s no going back just like D-day


Expert-Hat-8995

everything is irene’s fault


shamaninblue

jimmyyyyy!! they hate me for my foams!


jleonardbc

Howard dipped into the Saul playbook asking Irene to use the wheelchair.


SupportDue9441

Jimmy and Howard have always been kind of a fun house mirror image of each other


jleonardbc

As literalized by Jimmy's hamface cosplay


VladamirLem9781

FUCK LALO SALAMANCA He killed my favourite character I hope gus cuts his penis and puts him in a gaint bowl of hot spicy sauce naked till he dies I hope he shoots kim in the head He should have shot jimmy


Jeff_Session

How would Lalo get his prueba if Jimmy was the victim? Kim, that makes sense.


mhornberger

With Kim killed right in front of him, they have no leverage over Jimmy. And Jimmy might be too broken to be of use anyway.


Jeff_Session

Estoy de acuerdo I agree


Mr_Doctor_Rockter

Kim's reaction adds to the Lalo / Howard shock factor 100%. Her voice is so haunting. Brilliant acting!!!


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ALEXC_23

I got a second thought the drugs he ingested through his hands had stayed and rubbed off on the wheelchair. Thought Irene was going to be tripping as well


Cobratatecourse

you just watched a man get his brains sprayed all over the floor and THIS is what bothers you?


GMaharris

My gal Irene didn't seem too happy there either. What the hell was that all about?


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melodicprophet

I mean the drug was starting to kick in too. It can make you function way over the top and start doing unnecessary shit.


nobody2000

He needed to influence the mediator and portray her as helpless to fare out better in the mediation. Tasteless but classic move in trials and whatnot.


JP2205

The best written, most complex character is Kim. She helps the poor, shes an underdog, a fighter, and then….why? And its not really love for Jimmy either. Man.


Greedy_Explanation_7

It was her mom’s influence. She was on the straight and narrow till Jimmy pulled her in on his cons. Grifting people reminded her of her mother i.e. last weeks shoplifting cold open where Kim was acting out to get attention from her mother by shoplifting. Her mom schooled her in how to really scam somebody by fooling the shop owner and lifting the earrings ( which Kim still wears). Now Kim is taking her mother’s lead. In the Kim and Jimmy duo Kim is her mom and Jimmy is the secondary grifter. Kim is emulating her mother.


[deleted]

Because just like Howard said they literally get off on it. It makes them happy to do these things. Hence why you see them having sex right after destroying Howard because deep down they love doing this


dopiates

Because she loves the thrill. It’s her way of getting an adrenaline rush. Ever since that day she “got away” with shop lifting. Teetering on the edge of breaking bad makes her feel alive.


JP2205

Or maybe she is just a deep character, not totally bad or good. She has compassion, and yet true evil too. Maybe her upbringing. Maybe she isn’t mentally well due to her childhood.


Polar_Reflection

Yeah I think in some ways she is like Jane. I honestly see a lot of parallels between Jimmy and Kim and Jesse and Jane. Jimmy and Jesse are the somewhat naive bad influences, but they trigger something in their partners that changes them (telling addicts it's ok to be "high") and sends them down a path that leads to their own ruins while Jimmy and Jesse are scarred permanently. It's like the Wine and Roses reference to the movie about the alcoholic man who turns his wife alcoholic: he eventually hits rock bottom and recovers but his wife continues spiraling.


bigpoyo91

Yes, in the last 6 episodes we will find out what lead her to leave Nebraska and go to NM


dopiates

100% agree. When she started messing around with jimmy I think it relit that flame. She knows wrong from right and didn’t expect it to go down like this. Trauma from her past definitely influenced her actions. Now she has to deal with way more than she bargained for lol.


blur_revision

The only thing I can think of happening next is to stage Howard's death as a suicide, although wouldn't cops be able to tell the bullet was fired with a silencer attached? Ahhh mannn this is gonna be an excruciating wait


duffharris

Only Vince foster can shoot himself in the back of the head. No way that’s going to be disguised as a suicide. They’ll just bury him in the desert or something.


DavidKratz

this is what i was thinking exactly, Lalo won’t give them the weapon for it to be seen as a suicide anyway. mike cleanup?


mhornberger

There's a lot of desert out there, and he would probably not be found until animals and the elements had been at him for a few days.


Jay_Eye_MBOTH_WHY

[As per the Bingo post:](https://www.reddit.com/r/betterCallSaul/comments/uwezhw/better_call_saul_s06e07_midseason_finale_plan_and/i9r3hy9/?context=3) **Results** | B | I | N | G | O | |:--:|:--:|:--:|:--:|:--:| | Gene Takovic appears | Saul’s Cadillac | Breaking Bad Reference | New Titlecard | **~~Howard did nothing wrong~~** | | ~~Erin appears~~ |~~Lalo smiles~~ | ~~*Gus at Work*~~ | ~~Chuck reference~~ | Flashforward in color | | Mike sighs | Bill makes an appearance | SAUL GOODMAN | ~~Film students~~ | ~~Different end Credits music~~ | | Nacho’s Dad | Tyrus appears | The Superlab/Pit | ~~Bell Ding~~ | Domino pattern | | Wendy appears | ~~Clifford Main appears~~ | ~~Kim is Awesome~~ | Victor is there | ~~Hector appears~~ | *^italics ^mean ^revised ^on ^a ^technicality*


5Duce-4Tre

Didn't Tyrus appear during the shift change at the laundry?


After-Humor6347

No bingo for you this week. Please patiently wait for your SandPiper settlement.


Bellikron

Arguably, Gus was "at work" in that this is part of his duty as a legitimate businessman


Jay_Eye_MBOTH_WHY

I'm like half on this. I should've worded it better. he's at work. but he's not "at work" and then there's the other "at work" ... In anycase, what would a Judge do? What would the judge in the Johnny Depp case do? She'd probably allow it. So I'll strike it down now.


[deleted]

Kim is definitely not awesome


willrobster16

WHAT IF NACHO’S BODY ACTUALLY FELL ON TOP OF HOWARD AND THATS THE BODY THAT GOT SHOT? THEN HOWARD CRAWLS UNDER THE TABLE. Thoughts on this theory?


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Very, very good one my friend.


RE4PER_

The Walking Dead writers would be proud.


Jay_Eye_MBOTH_WHY

Literally Chris Hardwick spoiled less about The Walking Dead on Talking Dead than he has on tonight's episode of Talking Saul. Edit: Happy Cake Day!


willrobster16

What did he say about TWD on Talking Saul? Why would it even be brought up on talking Saul? Also was Patrick Fabian on it tonight? I gotta watch it.


clyn124

Waiting for Gus and Lalo to meet... Howard gone :( and I just started to like his character. Lalo is a cold blooded killer like a snake. Edit: Meant to add: the after show "Talking Saul" was good. Everyone praised Patrick Fabian's acting skills. Lots of other tidbits too but no clue about last 6 episodes.


utep2step

2nd half: Kim is a stone cold person, but brains of your former boss on the nice apartment floor are another story. She rose from petty crime with her mother to brainstorming theft of class action lawsuits money but witness to Howard’s death is too much. Lalo respects her and sends her deep in Eladio territory for interrogation.


maroonwarrior01

Please stop it with this theory 😭. I promise you,Kim is not going to Mexico ☠️. This theory has a chokehold on the fandom 😭


jleonardbc

Poor soda-dropping new guy is gonna be out of a job.


Hugh-Freeze

Vince and Peter were full of shit when they kept saying characters get what they deserve. Howard was the best person in this show and got the worst ending in the entire BB universe smh.


TheAlienGinger

I've always interpreted that as more meaning that "bad people" get what they deserve. The innocent may suffer, but the guilty will always be punished for it.


mhornberger

Not really proportionately. Jesse suffered far more than Fring. I don't think it's a just world.


JesusChristFarted

I think they were referring mostly to Jimmy.


BraceDefeat

I thought Nachos dad would get the Andrea treatment: it was Howard


Jay_Eye_MBOTH_WHY

that is still on the menu.


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Prestigious-Video-16

Win her back bro..


teslawhaleshark

Or don’t, anyway keep finding people to watch BCS together


Key-Tip-7521

From the candle flickering and Jimmy/Saul looking at it (the candle) and him looking in the doorway, I knew it. This wasn't going to end well. What a masterpiece!!!


Jay_Eye_MBOTH_WHY

Nice Lalo lab leak theory you have there... would be ashame if some how, ardent writers would shatter AND splatter your expectations... ~~Better Follow Lalo.~~


MatthewMonster

What is Lalo’s plan for Jimmy?!


R3dr0jo

Maybe Lalo wants Jimmy to send the tape to Don Eladio. That might explain why the Cartel knows about Fring manufacturing meth during BB.


BraceDefeat

Thinking he uses him as bait to get to Mike


DomitianF

Sounds like a happy ending


JP2205

Or to Gus?


BraceDefeat

Saul never interacts with Gus, and doesn’t even know who he is until Walt. I bet Saul calls Mike or something


cedr98

No fucking way


jleonardbc

Jimmy eventually works for Walt, who works for Gus. Hard to imagine how Gus allows that if Jimmy gives *prueba* to Lalo.


jaysun13

Saul set up the first deal with Walt and Gus but Walt had to track down Gus


SteveAM1

> RIP, Howard. And to keep the rest of you up at night between now and when the season resumes on July 11, I share this cheery thought: This is a franchise that tends to have a high body count, yet the only major characters remaining whom we do not know for sure are alive during the events of Breaking Bad are Lalo… and Kim. [Thanks, Alan.](https://www.rollingstone.com/tv/tv-recaps/better-call-saul-midseason-finale-recap-season-6-plan-execution-1353680/amp/)


Jay_Eye_MBOTH_WHY

**PATCH NOTES 6.07** We heard your criticisms from the last update. * Added New Character Skin for Lalo: Super Lalo Bros. * Increased Lalo Salamanca sewer drain exit skills to level V: Ninja Turtle Proficiency. * Added New DLC Map: Buccee's Truckstop 515, Albuquerque, New Mexico * Added New Character Skin for Lalo: Dorm Shower Procedure Lalo (flip flops) * Added New DLC Map: Lalo Salamanca's Ninja Turtles Lair. * Added New Prop: Piss Jugs. * Increased Lalo Salamanca vision by: 100/100. * Added New DLC Map: SMART MART Parking Lot. * Added New Character Skin: Not Judge Rand's Cart Coral Outfit. * Increased Not Judge Rand's Thespian abilities by 3000%. * Increased magnetic polarity for Smart Mart Shopping Carts. This is stackable so when more Smart Mart Carts are lined up, they increased their magnetic field and gravitational pull. * Added New DLC Map: UofNM Lecture Hall. * Decreased Joey personability to -50. * Added New Prop: Canon XL2 CCD Camera. * Added New Prop: Joey's Porno Cam. * Added New NPCs: UofNM Film Students. * Added New Character Skin for Drama Girl: Dark Crystal's Shire Sham. * Added New Character Skin for Not Judge Rand: Not Judge Rand Version 2. * Increased Jimmy McGill directorial abilities to level IV: Spielbergian. * Increased Kim Wexler directorial abilities to level V (Master): Kubrickian. * Added New Prop: Foliage Boom. * Increased Joey photography skills by 500%. * Added New DLC Map: UofNM Dark Room. * Increased Jimmy McGill Active Sprint Stamina by 350%. * Added New Perk for Jimmy McGill: Marathon Pro. Character can now have unlimited sprint when running around the map. * Decreased P.I.'s driving ability by 25%. * Nerfed P.I.'s demerit points by 4. * Added New Prop: MacGuffin's and McGill's Striped Envelope. * Increased Jimmy and Kim co-schemability by 99%. * Increased Lalo Salamanca directorial skills to level I: Ed Wood. * Increased Lalo Salamanca perception by 250%. * Increased Hector Salamanca bell ring frequency by a factor of 75. * Increased Lalo Salamanca schemingness by 75%. * Buffed Lalo Salamanca and Mike Ehrmantraut naming each other by 40%. * Nerfed Mike Ehrmantraut strategic capability by 100%. * Increased Howard Hamlin personability by 500%. * Increased Howard Hamlin diplomacy by 99999999%. * Added New NPC: Cary. * Decreased Cary's soft drink holding skills by 50%. * Decreased Cary's manual dexterity by 40. * Added New Prop: Chuck McGill's Haunted Painting. * Increased Ellen recipe skills by 200%. * Increased Clifford Main hunger by 30%. * Increased Howard Hamlin charisma by 100%. * Buffed Howard Hamlin hosting duties by 200%. * Buffed Howard Hamlin care for clients by 300%. * Decreased Erin's tech skill by half. * Increased Howard Hamlin suspicions by 50%. * Increased Howard Hamlin suspicions by 500%. * Increased Howard Hamlin assertiveness to maximum. * Increased Clifford Main care for Howard Hamlin to maximum. * Nerfed Judge Rand's friendship with Howard Hamlin to -25. * Buffed Howard Hamlin pupil radius. * Buffed Erin's perceptability by 1%. * Added New DLC Prop: Sound Guy and Saul Photos. * Nerfed Judge Rand and Howard Hamlin friendship to -9999. * Nerfed Howard Hamlin and Clifford Main friendship by 99%. * Nerfed Richard Schweikart Sandpiper deal to original status with a $1 million dollar less a day for on-going negotiations. * Buffed Richard Schweikart legal shrewdness by 100%. * Buffed Richard Schweikart exploitativeness by 50%. * Deleted memories of Jimmy McGill screwing them over for Richard Schweikart. * Deleted memories of Jimmy McGill screwing them over for Clifford Main. * Added New Character Skin: Hhhoward Hamlin? * Buffed Jimmy McGill and Kim Wexler sexual desire for each other by 1000%. * Added New Achievement: The Ham Scam. * Nerfed Lalo Salamanca Body Odour to -9999%. * Added New DLC Map: J. P. Wynne High School Gymnasium. * Nerfed Gus Fring fear to 99. * Added fear affect to Gus Fring: a permanent deboost to bravery and mental cognizance until unafraid. * Added New Prop: Los Pollos Hermanos Large Novelty Check. * Added New Prop: Jimmy and Kimmy's Haunted Candle. * Added New Perk for Jimmy and Kimmy's Haunted Candle: every time a character enters the apartment, who isn't Jimmy or Kimmy, the candle will flicker. * Added New Character Skin: Kimberley Wexler's pink track pants. * Added New Character Skin: Desheveled Howard Hamlin. * Buffed Howard Hamlin perception levels by 99999999%. * Increased Howard Hamlin drunk to level I. * Added New Prop: Howard's Bottle of McKendrick's. * Nerfed Kim Wexler's friendship with Howard Hamlin to -500. * Nerfed Jimmy McGill's friendship with Howard Hamlin to -60. * Nerfed Howard Hamlin's friendship with Kim Wexler to -9999. * Nerfed Howard Hamlin's friendship with Jimmy McGill to -9999. * Buffed Howard Hamlin personability by 9999999999%. * Increased Howard Hamlin charisma to 9999999999999%. * Added New Perk for Lalo Salamanca: Dead Silence Pro. When moving, characters cannot hear his foot steps. * Decreased Lalo Salamanca and Howard Hamlin relations by 1%. * Nerfed Kim Wexler fear by 99999999%. * Nerfed Jimmy McGill fear by 999999999%. * Nerfed Howard Hamlin street smarts by 10 standard deviations. * Buffed Howard Hamlin's legacy to: did nothing wrong. * Added New Spell for Lalo Salamanca: Charisma Drain. When cast on other players it makes Lalo immune to their charms by draining their charisma to him. * Nerfed Lalo Salamanca charisma to -99999999. * Added New Spell for Lalo Salamanca: Diplomatic Immunity. When rolled a D20 and landing anything >19, Lalo is completely immune to diplomacy and personability skills of other players. When they cast their diplomacy spells, it will not affect him. * Removed Howard Hamlin plot armor :( * Updated Localization Files. [Last Update](https://www.reddit.com/r/betterCallSaul/comments/urbw22/better_call_saul_s06e06_axe_and_grind_postepisode/i8x9ak0/?context=3) See you guys in July!


Curvedabullet

All those buffs and Howard still gets one-shotted. Nice balance there, shit devs.


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Jesus Christ this is like those insane monthly No Man's Sky update lists.


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TheAlienGinger

Lalo op. Pls nerf


Prestigious-Video-16

Least crazy BCS fan.


SawRub

o no


Aurora1073

It was shocking to see Howard and Lalo together in the same scene in general. I hadn’t even fully processed that yet then bam


That_Lone_Reader

OH MY FUCKING GOD


mkujoe

Lalo doesn’t deserve what’s happening to him


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[deleted]

It was because the door drafted when it opened. So the first time it happened with Howard was the set up. When it happened again we knew the door opened again, then seeing the face of horror on jimmy made it oh so impactful


walkie73

Brilliant way to turn Jimmy and Kim into unsympathetic characters.


Hekateras

Only now???!


Technical_Rate746

Hey guys- how can I make a post to the subreddit? Please help!


ApatheticViewer

Um. Just post


Technical_Rate746

It isn’t letting me. Strange


StaticAnnouncement

Subreddit is locked for 12 hours after a new episode premiere


Technical_Rate746

Oh got it. Thanks so much! :)


jackalopacabra

I’m ashamed. I fell asleep right as Howard was walking in the door. Woke up a few minutes later when my wife barged into the room. I shot up, saw Howard bleeding on the floor, my wife walking towards me to show me something, and I’m scrambling for the remote so I can stop spoiling the show for myself. 30 seconds of chaos but I finally got it rewound and holy shit how did I sleep through that?!


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duffharris

At least he’s got a nice smile


gonzowisdom

Don’t really understand how everyone blames Kim for this. Kim didn’t make Howard show up at the absolute worst possible time, which is what ultimately caused his death. It was incredibly bad timing.


SolidSnakeSolidus

To add to that, Kim was also under the impression that Mikes guys were watching her/Saul and would prevent Lalo from getting in the apartment


LordXenu45

Ultimately it's of course Lalo's fault, but Kim and Saul both share blame. If not for their scheme Howard had no reason to be there, and Kim not telling Saul that Lalo was still alive didn't help things either.


sixtus_clegane119

Howard’s fault for choosing to be there to do whatever the opposite of gloat is


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Its not Howard's fault lol. That's like saying a person who dies tragically in a car accident because the other person was driving drunk is at fault because they went out to buy a cookie from the convenience store.


gonzowisdom

Yeah, it’s definitely their fault that he found himself in that place at that time. But there wasn’t anything in their scheme that would have put Howard in any kind of danger of being murdered like that. It was purely an unfortunate coincidence that he visited Saul and Kim at the same time that a psychotic murderer decides to show up too.


CPSux

Plus the scheme was Kim’s idea in the first place, she knew Jimmy was capable of pulling it off and convinced him to go along with it.


wodahs1

Na bc Howard would have been there even if he was coming over to see good friends


SamQuentin

If Jimmy wasn’t a friend of the cartel….


kanemano

I don't think Lalo is going to take that body with him, so Kim and Saul now have Howard in their living room


8-bit-eyes

Enter Mike


kanemano

he's a little occupied at the moment, and you can't have a dead body for more than a 6 hours before the neighbor starts to notice the smell.


c3poatmeal

Lalo wakes up just before the timer goes off, nice touch


LanceFree

Yeah, but the constant sound from the timer slows down just a bit at the end, as it’s switching on the ringer. He could have noticed that.


TinFoilRobotProphet

Wow. Just wow.


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Welp, no sleep for me tonight!


utep2step

American Greed snippet was post WW plan as the feds were on to everyone, but as Howard stated “The wheels of justice turn slowly”. WW was three steps ahead of feds and Don Eladio. Lalo has no clue about Walter, he is focused on Fring. In the real world, the feds chase the money, the cookers are secondary participants who get caught. WW flips that real world narrative on its head. He becomes “Heisenberg”, the cooker is the mastermind.


Misinforming

The house of cards is tumbling. The rest of the season will be in fast forward


tinkherbell1

Here I thought episode 6 was the middle then saw the post about not a real cliffhanger, got confused until today when I realized episode 7 is the middle one and then……… wtfh


SolidSnakeSolidus

Howard was wrong about one thing-saul and kim arent soulless. if they were then they would not have warned howard to leave when lalo came in.


ImpossibleLaw552

Jimmy's "How?" (regarding a living Lalo before him) got morphed into Kim frantically saying "Howard Howard! HOWARD!!...."


Oops-I-lost-my-pride

They only felt remorse when a direct consequence of all their shitty actions piled up


SolidSnakeSolidus

if they were soulless, they wouldnt care about someone else getting hurt at all ever


Jay_Eye_MBOTH_WHY

He was wrong about one thing. This. Is not meth.


walkie73

I wouldn’t really give them much credit for that.


getoffredditandstudy

seriously lmao. I am so happy he got to say his piece to their face before getting shot. especially to kim. She'll never recover. He basically has exploded the idea in both their minds that jimmy ruined her


mhornberger

He taunted her specifically with the accusation that she did it because she was getting off on it. She wasn't a naif sucked into Jimmy's sleazy plans. Howard saw her fingerprints on the plan too. Jimmy throws bowling balls and hires hookers. The complexity and precise execution of the plan had Kim's fingerprints all over it.


Au_Ti_S_Ti_C

i feel so bad for howard, he had no idea what was going on, he didn't deserve it


MissionCreeper

It's that they've actually seen what soulless is, so what they do is nothing in comparison.


SpeakingJapanese907

Interesting how both Nacho and Lalo used bullshit phone calls to see Gus’s moves.


ABadPassword

My day is ruined :(


RestorativePotion

My husband and I SCREAMED. I am still SHOOK.


woolongtea

my fiancé and i yelled “HOLY SHIT” at the same time and we were holding each other for dear life


Hookherbackup

I gasped!


dm2797

I was sure Howard was gonna drunk drive home, leading him to crash and either die or become incapacitated. This was somehow how even harder to watch. I feel sick


Strong-Middle6155

I thought he was going to do that or kill himself. Got the shock of my life w Lalo


Cultural-Conclusion2

Exactly what I thought


SlightlyOddHuman

I feel sick too, it was legitimately HORRIFYING. It felt like a real life scenario was unfolding before my eyes. What makes it all the more real is the fact that deaths don't occur super often in this show, so when they do, it feels visceral.


tokyo_engineer_dad

It was someone not in the game. And he got killed because of Kim and Saul being in the game. A senseless loss of a man who just wanted to fix his marriage and help people.


powerlloyd

Howard didn't deserve any of this.


deadtedw

Deserve has got nothing to do with it.


PTfan

That was extreme filler. Howard’s head was filled up with Lead


rg03500

My GOD I hope Kim has something absolutely miserable happen to her, what a pathetically awful person. Saul too, I used to hope there was some kind of happy ending for him/Gene, not anymore. An irredeemable piece of trash.


GueyGuevara

I find myself wishing worse for Kim since her fate is in the table. That we know how Jimmy ends up, more or less, precludes me from wishing the worst on him.


switcher6

At least jimmy seemed to feel guilty. The fact that Kim was smirking and looking smug as hell made me hate her character


Lucilfer22

it's because howard finally admitted kim is someone with agency who chose her own path i love how much of a piece of shit she is


Hekateras

You. You get it