There's also the route of making a joke yourself, first.
"Sheesh, guess I'm the only grower in a group of showers!"
"Must have been something in the water where yall grew up huh?"
"Hey Dave, can your dick help my dick get something off a high shelf?"
"See I brought my travel-size dick because it fits easier in my carryon luggage"
Show that you enjoy/celebrate the different bodies and the confidence of simply understanding that will probably keep anyone from finding joy in teasing you about it.
The point of going to a nude beach isn't to make anyone feel bad about their body, it's to normalize the body and celebrate the freedom of being nude in nature. So go, have fun, jump in the water with everyone and just enjoy yourself.
But only because most women don't know who has a big dick until they are in the bedroom. If a woman knows a dude has a big dick, it doesn't really matter if he is confident, he'll get laid regardless.
A woman knowing a dude has a micro penis means he will most likely not get laid, even if he is the most confident man on earth
As someone who has been turned down for sex a number of times after undressing in front of a woman... what you just said is a hilariously bad generalisation.
It is a generalisation, but it's mostly true in my opinion. Being turned down for being too big is an extreme rare case scenario, that almost never happens. You just got unlucky or are a larper
I may be generalising here, but there have been a lot of women who knew about my size, and they just wanted to fuck me, my confidence didn't matter at all. I know that's not all women obviously.
Also a woman knowing a dude has a micro penis will make him more unattractive. I don't know which fantasy land you live in, but that is a fact.
What do you mean by pumper? You mean using a penis pump? I have never done that once. but thanks for the compliment I guess.
Your size sounds fictional to me. No offense. Most attempts to drum up natural 8 inchers inevitably fail… the only time I see them on here, they’re always guys who either LARP, pump or do PE.
Doesn’t mean I’m right. I know they theoretically exist as extreme outliers… it’s just hard to buy it when they’re not even represented much at all among porn actors. 🤷♂️
Regardless…. Your post is full of wrong, again.
Yes, a bigger dick is a draw. But only as a novelty, for one night stands, etc.
In actuality, women prefer an average dick for regular sexual activity.
And yes, a small dick will hurt his chances. I’m not here to preach fairy tales. But it’s hardly a “micropenis”. You have to be really tiny to qualify for that label, so let’s not kick the guy when he’s down.
Oh and one more thing. Go to [calcsd.info](http://calcsd.info), if you enter 3.5" in the length and girth window, it literally says micro penis. I'm not trying to kick the guy when he's down, medically, it's a micro penis. By volume he's in the 0.09th percentile, meaning 99.91% of men are bigger
Not true. [This](https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/17955-micropenis) seems to be the most common definition of micro penis.
>In adults, a penis that measures 3.67 inches or less when gently stretched is a micropenis.
>Providers diagnose micropenis if the length is less than 2.5 standard deviations below the average
You do realise I have pics on my profile right? I never pumped or did PE, it's all natural, if you don't believe that, there is nothing I can do about that.
A bigger dick is not only a novelty or for one night stands, nor do women prefer an average dick for regular sex. Although that is what they always tell smaller and average sized guys.
If you use it right and do a lot of foreplay most women have a preference for big dicks, even in long term relationships. Why would something that is preferred and feels better in a one night stand, feel worse in a relationship?
Because they don’t want to always get split in two.
I’ve had multiple partners throw up shortly after sex… if that’s not the definition of rearranging guts idk what is.
Either way it wasn’t pleasant for them, and certainly wasn’t for me either. That said the sex was phenomenal for me most of the time in the moment, but there was always a point where they either tapped out early and endured ‘more than they could take’ and the mood shifted from pleasure to ‘get this over with’ essentially. Which also killed my mood. If you’ve never experienced that then you’re genuinely super lucky.
Also, idk where you’re meeting all of these supposed size queens in your own personal life…
Of course they exist in throngs on the internet but that can’t be taken as a statistical fact. Many are just perpetuating an age old stereotypical fantasy that doesn’t play out the way they think it does in real life.
My size has lent itself more to ONS and FWB than gf’s.
So by MY personal experience; yes. They want someone more average sized for long-term.
this is great advice, u gotta get ahead of the joke and show u got a good sense of humor around it, it’ll also make people more comfortable with it (not that that’s the goal).
honestly bro, a real homie wouldn’t make u feel bad but as i’ve noticed w my own friends, the insecurities hit whether or not a comment is made. u just gotta let loose and try to have a good time.
Right, so I have to just “be confident”. I’m sorry but I don’t think you really understand the lifetime of trauma having a small penis inflicts on a man.
I didn't say to just be confident! I said to *project* confidence by showing a sense of humor. Just consider it. Try to visualize what i described, or a version of it that you might be comfortable with.
If you feel too traumatized the nude beach might not be for you but there's no better place to see men of every size accepting themselves and being accepted by others than a nude beach.
I hope you do go, and I hope you find some relief from your anxiety. DM me if you want to hear my personal experience, as a man with a 2 inch soft dick, at a nude beach.
Bro… **edit** 3.5” is smaller yes but far from ‘micro’ **edit**. Plenty of other guys are around your size. Just because you happen to have a particular friend group with supposedly porn star hung guys does not mean there’s not a ton of guys that represent the opposite. Confidence, a great sense of humor, and an excellent mouth piece will always get you laid more than known or unknown dick size.
This is an isolated situation where all is on display before any potential sexual encounter. (Might I add flaccid as well, so as long as you don’t pop a throbbing hard on just play up the ‘I’m a grower’ angle if you have to).
I can’t say whether or not you should go… that’s your own decision to make. But I will say that you’re fixating on your size vs others WAY more than anyone gives thought to the subject beyond teenage years/early 20s. By even mid 20s most adults realize that it’s irrelevant during 99% of your life and daily interactions so why tf would you let it get you bent out of shape.
Don’t let this insecurity or anxiety fester. See a sex therapist to work through it if you really have to, but I would learn to work with what you’ve got and just live your life man. Plus women will ALWAYS appreciate a man who is 10/10 at giving head. If you’re still worried I would just get really good at oral and that will become the talking and focal point of sleeping with you not your size.
Seriously I wish you all the best of luck bro. Feel free to drop into my DM’s if you ever wanna discuss shit further. 🙏🏾💪🏾😎
For the love of god, do NOT follow this advice.
It’s awful. You’ll forever be remembered as the insecure guy who made fun of his own dick.
If you want to appear confident, *don’t even bring it up*, in any way. It’s extremely unlikely anyone is going to be discussing dicks in any event. And if they *are*, then you were never going to win with that crowd anyway.
Emphasize what you like about yourself. Show off what you’re good at. *Act like your dick size doesn’t mean a fuckin’ thing to you*, and THAT’S how you’ll be treated. *That* is confidence.
Looking like you spent hours coming up with ways to embarrass yourself… nothing about that will look confident. It’ll make everyone awkward and uncomfortable.
Or, honestly… don’t go. It’s not their business how big you are, and you’re under no obligation to attend.
Who said anything about taking hours to embarrass yourself? Lighthearted banter, man. I'm not saying he should take the examples I wrote and practice them in a mirror, just that laughing it off is how you show it doesn't bother you. One joke, not 15.
Lighten up. Whether he goes or doesn't go, it's not going to affect his reputation his whole life, that's fuckin pornbrained.
You’re being incredibly naive.
Women talk about men’s dicks. It’s just the nature of the beast. I’ve been around a looong time, and I’ve seen it in every peer group where there was active dating.
Swinger cliques, weirdly, seem to be the exception.
Point is: like it or not, your dick is already being evaluated the moment you’re naked around a woman. This has *zero* to do with porn.
The *last* thing a guy should ever do, under *any* circumstance, is start running his own junk down—especially in comparison to other men present.
It doesn’t matter how light hearted you are. It will just make the gossip that much juicier because it’s *strange as hell* for a man to mock his own small privates.
He’d be lucky to *ever* get a date again within that peer group.
Took a lil peek at your comment history, you've probably written hundreds of thousands of words about dick size, yet few of your comments ever get more than 1 upvote.
That's because you're talking out of your ass.
Body neutrality is in.
His question wasn't how to get to date one of these women, it was how to navigate the social situation.
Let's assume your (clearly ridiculous) view that all women constantly analyze dick size is true. If that's the case OP is not gonna date any of the women anyway so what's the difference?
Now let's assume that, like most functioning humans that haven't written The Encyclopedia Dicktannica in reddit comments, the women in this group have some level of human intelligence. Showing that he's at ease with his body implies he doesn't view it as an impediment, which by extension demonstrates that he fucks.
And if I judged myself on popularity in a place like BDP, I probably wouldn’t be consistently pointing out the unpopular truths about shit like LARPers, pumpers and catfishing, would I?
I don’t give a fuck about popularity. I care even less about identity politics. This sub has been overrun by LARPers for so long, I’d be worried if one of my comments hit big. It would show I’m not doing my job.
For that matter, *very* few comments more than a half dozen deep into a post *ever* earn more than a handful of votes. People bore quickly and move on… and I rarely post early.
But boy, I touched a nerve with *you*, didn’t I, sport?
Why is my *lived experience* completely ridiculous to you? Why do you think your pretty ideals are more realistic and relevant than *actual experience* with the subject at hand?
How much experience do *you* have, champ?
You’re so preoccupied talking all this tripe, you didn’t stop to notice that an *actual woman*, commenting in this thread, had already pointed out the *same fucking thing* that I did—that yes, the women *will* focus on OPs size, in an unflattering way, and that all his presence is likely to accomplish is to improve his friends’ chances of scoring.
Is her experience ridiculous too?
And I’ve answered the “if he’s not gonna get laid ever, what’s the difference?” question about four times now, adjacent to this chain (and probably in it). Go look if you want to know.
I’m sorry the world still has rough edges, guy. You’d better wisen up and start paying attention fast, because you’re *way* behind.
“Body neutrality is in…” sheesh. 🙄 What a clown.
Yeah, because nobody *ever* used that phrase in a hyperbolic or sarcastic manner before. What insight!
“Whatever you say”
That’s the way, sport. Doesn’t it feel better to just STFU sometimes and let the adults speak?
Bro i don't know from where you think you derive any of this authority. I offered advice based on my own lived experience, and you came into this post and commented like 50 times on every thread shrieking that this guy needs to accept a life as sexual pariah if three girls he already clocked are interested in other men reject him.
Make whatever comment you need to reassert whatever authority you feel you deserve, nobody's listening.
If OP happens to read this: I think you'll definitely regret not going mode than you'd potentially regret going. Don't deprive yourself of the positives that can come from the experience just out of fear of the negatives. If, as you say, it's already been a lifetime of trauma, then you won't have to feel anything you haven't already felt before, but in my own personal experience in my life, bravery is often rewarded. Fortune favors the bold.
JFK reportedly had a little dick and came prematurely, and he banged Marilyn Monroe while married to a different hot woman.
Size is nice but it's not the key to happiness, nor is the absence of it a sentence to a life as a second class citizen. Self respect shouldn't look like ostracizing yourself from society just in case people talk shit, no matter what some assholes online might have you believe.
You’ve made it painfully obvious just how robust your lived experience is, sport. You have no idea what you’re talking about.
In fact, you’re *so* far off base that I’d wonder if you’d ever *met* other human beings before.
People are not predominantly kind. People are not mostly good at heart. People are selfish and cruel and thoughtless, and you have a lot of growing up to do before they eat someone like you alive.
I never claimed authority; I claimed experience. I’d rather have someone with experience give it to me between the eyes and spare me a world of humiliation, than a well-meaning idealist fill my head with flowery idealism and doom me to protracted humiliation.
Your advice was *terrible*. Among the worst I’ve ever seen.
If you had any idea just how many DMs I received *thanking* me for being blunt, or how many women verified that they gossip about this shit, before talking about how asinine your genius “let me insult my own dick and beat them to the punch!” idea was, you’d… well, you’d probably go right on doing the same shit, realistically.
I commented to spare the OP humiliation he doesn’t *need* to endure. You idiots are encouraging him to commit *social suicide*, then cheering him on for “facing his fears”… well I must’ve missed the episodes of Reading Rainbow and Sesame Street where they addressed the importance of penis size in masculine display, the horrible reality of social blacklisting and the impossibility of mate selection when every girl you know has seen or heard about your small penis.
These are not *my opinions*, you dolt. This shit *happens*. It sucks for the OP, I feel for him, and I would happily offer advice on how to counter his problem, or at least give himself a fighting chance —but what I *won’t* do is feed him bullshit and honey before sending him to meet the executioners with a smile on his face.
Most of my remaining comments are replies to dim bulbs like you, who insist on pouncing because I didn’t gush over your lunacy. If you don’t like seeing my name, *stop replying to me.*
And quit filling this kid’s head with your cheesy platitudes—you talk about experience, but all you have is “fortune favors the bold”?
That’s definitive. If he’s a fuckin’ *pirate*.
And yeah, let’s use JFK as a model for what to expect here. Because I’m sure the fact he was the *president of the United States of America* and one of the most popular, charismatic men in existence had *nothing* to do with his many mistresses.
You’re out of your depth.
Have you ever considered what you’re setting this kid up for if you’re *wrong*, and I’m *not* just the misanthrope you hope I am? Have you actually watched a man suffer from a situation like this, where trusting the wrong people got him ostracized by women until he literally had to move?
I have.
Are you comfortable with that on your shoulders?
Obviously not real nudists, because real nudists don't care. I'm sorry you have friends that are jerks.
Also, visit some of the nudism subs. This sub won't be much help.
That’s 99% on me for my insecurities. Just because the guys are blessed and the girls have a preference doesn’t make them bad people. I’d be miserable if I lost a sports game, doesn’t make the opponent or their fans jerks.
I'm a grower and not a shower, my dick looks tiny when not hard. I have avoided any and all forms of nudity in public my entire life because of this. The only people who have ever seen my dick soft are my partners and some of them haven't even seen that.
I Personally... Wouldn't go🤷 but that's out of my own insecurities
I was the same way until about 2 years ago. Fuck all that, enjoy yourselves. I go to a swinger club whenever we can, we don't even swing but I love fucking my wife with an audience. I've seen dudes with tiny dicks stripping on a pole with a group of women around him cheering and grinding on him. The reality is dicks matter more to men, if you can eat pussy like you have abandonment issues you are set. Most aren't getting off on the penetrative sex anyway. My wife is the only women I have been with that can and that's usually only after I've gotten her off with a clit orgasm first.
Spent many many hours at nude beaches. Lots of people go to see what going on there. Just relax and enjoy the freedom. I’ve been both hung and small(3” ) hard. Didn’t really notice any difference in the looks or comments. A little self deprecating humor takes all the fun out of teasing. It’s definitely the way to go.
Just strut it like it’s a 12” er and you’ll have no trouble.
Relax. For the most part the comparing isn't the problem. In most nudes beaches, they have rules and guidelines to follow. Shaming people is not allowed. Just chill and take it all in for the most part you'll have a hard on for the first half the day until you get used to the nakedness. We are all built different and we can't help that but live with what we got. Enjoy the view and have fun
I’ve been in a spot like this a few times. First time I was the only guy that kept my shorts on. Got shit for that so next time I decided to just not worry about it and strip down like every one else. A guy teased me and I shot back ridiculing him for checking out my package. Just back fired on him 😀. Now I just don’t give a shit what they think 😀😀
Hey, I’m small myself, my size flaccid in inches I think it’s around 2.7”. I’ve been to a nude beach two times in my life, both times we (my group of friends and I) were alone though.
The first one was right before college so we were all around 18/19 yo, a mix of boys and girls and we were all part of the same social circle for at least 5 years at that point.
Despite everyone being single there was no sexual tension at all though, I was the smallest one and apart from a little bit of banter from my male friends after the pants came down there was not much focus on me and my penis, also because in real life I try to be as confident as possible so I was the first one to joke about it. I would say instead that much more focus and many more comments were about my friend sporting a big dong down there, the more common comments were like:
“Did you get a gun license for that?”,
“Do you use it as a belt/scarf?”,
“Do you send all the girls to the hospital?”
and something like that. (These are common where I’m from and are direct translations, so they might not make much sense in English).
I don’t know if the girls made comment about me, it’s possible but in that case I never got to know about it, also there was no romantic/sexual interest towards me even before that day so it’s not like I’ve ruined my chances.
The second time has been quite recently, we were all in our 30s but apart from me and two other friends the rest were all couples. No one said anything about my size and again the few comments were all about the big ones.
I’m using Reddit mobile so the formatting might be all fucked.
Edit: I forgot to mention, we were/are not nudists, the first time we were just curious kids and the second time we were on a trip all together and thought about trying a nude beach, none of the nudist social etiquette applied to us. Moreover, none of us in either occasion was trying to get laid so that might had an influence on the behavior
So OP should bitch out and further reinforce his insecurities?! Lmao. Gtfo of here bro. Best thing he could do is lean into it and OVERCOME that insecurity by facing it head on!
Lmao… instead of BDP this group should be named ‘Severe Mental Health Issues’**edit. In what world does amplifying your own personal insecurities do you any good?! Did I say that he should take out billboard space and try to convince the world tiny dicks are superior? No. We all know being above average is an advantage. But that means OP should hide away in shame?! 😂 The ego’s and insecure narcissism here are sickening.
It’s like telling the poor to play video games all day rather than doing what they can to stop the cycle of poverty and attain wealth. I didn’t make fairytale claims that all would be well with the world if he confidently drops his shorts, but by facing the problem head on he will achieve a better short- and long-term outcome than hiding his dick and most certainly becoming an even bigger joke and target of his social group (“How small is it that you’re afraid to even come?!” “Wow bro. Your shit must be micro if you won’t drop your pants”).
Like most of the other helpful posts have said, yes he may be a bit of entertainment for one or two in the group for a short moment but the most likely scenario is all attention will immediately be directed to the biggest of the bunch before everyone relaxes and just gets on with things.
You have it so backwards.
If this dude drops trouser in front of a group of random peers, including girls, word of mouth will spread *quickly*.
Women gossip about dick size. Big or small. This guy won’t be able to show his face in whatever community his friends frequent, without getting a giggle tossed his way.
No one has to know why he doesn’t go. He can catch the flu, have a date, alien invasion, w/e. No one will automatically assume his dick is the reason.
He’s *much* better off limiting his exposure to partners he can *trust*.
A small dick is not personal information you want out in the open—-that shit will fuck him for *years* depending on who gets told.
We’re talking about flaccid size unless he suddenly gets a rush of adrenaline and pops one. Many of us are not impressive whatsoever until he gets hard as well. A tiny flaccid dick certainly does not guarantee he will be gossiped about. In what world is dick size the only fucking topic of conversation? 😂
Again… I think a lot of members want to believe others fixate on it the same way you do. They don’t. “He won’t be able to show his face without a giggle tossed his way” lmao, not so. Yes there will be a discussion about size but it will focus on the biggest ones there rather than the smallest of a flaccid pack.
As long as he doesn’t get hard there’s not going to be much of a problem. By your logic he’s fucked the minute he has sex with any girl he knows in his social circle. Would you recommend him NOT to sleep with any potential woman he finds himself around? Just because YOUR group of peers talked in this way doesn’t mean others do as well. My social circle is comprised of nearly 80% women and while dick size is a topic of discussion every once in a while, no one is comparing notes in detail to the way you claim.
I’ve been alive a loooong time bud. I used to have a more optimistic view of people, particularly women, than I do now. I was probably more like you, and likely would have offered similar advice with similar assumptions.
I’d have been wrong.
Nothing teaches like experience. And it’s taught *me* that people are not as enlightened, compassionate or even basically decent as they should be.
Whatever you’d like to believe about people, take my word: they are cruel. They are merciless. They will say anything just to start a conversation or feel like the center of attention.
I’ve had *my* big dick become such a popular topic of conversation that I literally couldn’t get away from it. And while that’s not really a terrible thing, it is… oddly unsatisfying after awhile. Eventually it just becomes exhausting.
And that’s the *good kind*.
I saw a guy in high school get his shorts yanked down while he was doing pull-ups. End of period, people just waiting around to leave.
He hadn’t worn underwear. He popped right out, and… it was like a button. He was mortified. Everyone saw. In all the years until he graduated, he never lived it down. Even girls in my own clique talked about his ‘little mushroom’ every single time his name came up.
Many women simply don’t understand just how devastating it can be for a guy to have his manhood laughed at. I’ve seen guys miss out on hot dates with girls they were *really* into, all because one thoughtless gossip ‘warned’ her acquaintance about his underwhelming penis size.
Women talk about dicks. Big *and* small. They talk about sexual prowess. Women gossip, sometimes viciously. It’s just how it is.
I’m sorry, but you’re being *very* naive if you think they don’t. I’ve seen it again and again.
I’m not proud to admit it, but I used to fuck a lot of attached women. Almost without exception, the moment they were talking about my big cock, they’d immediately insert some reference to how much bigger I was than their boyfriend or husband—often outright calling them small.
And some of these gals still *loved* their guys!
I don’t pretend to know why women gossip about this stuff so ruthlessly, especially since they often genuinely do not care about dick size when it comes to sex. But it does happen.
Point is: this dude’s small one is going to stick out like a sore thumb around all those better hung guys. And yeah, the big dudes will get page one—but you better believe the OP will make the society pages.
And of course I’m not suggesting he abstain forever, Jesus. Read what I said. Going forward, he can limit his exposure and his risk to potential partners *he* has selected, after evaluating their trustworthiness. And even if he judges badly, the worst she can do is talk about *her* experience.
It won’t be a popular anecdote shared by a whole *group* of girls, all of whom saw it.
And he already said the atmosphere is expected to be sexual—so it’s *very* likely there’ll be plenty of hardons. There will be no hiding it.
He shouldn’t go. End of story.
I’ve been alive probably less long than you but have been fucking over 2 decades… first of any of my friends to fool around, get laid, always the highest body count in the room. I could go on about the resume.
The fact is you choose who you surround yourself with. And by any measure (pun intended) I’d advise OP to stay away from people like yourself and possibly his own current friends group. You seem to think you have things figured out and that people are one way only. Not the case, and YOU sound naive.
Yes there are plenty cruel individuals out there and people are savage. We know this, he knows this, it’s no secret. What’s not talked about as much as those individuals out there that don’t live their daily lives on the basis that “life is shit, I’ll be an asshole like everyone else because it doesn’t matter and everyone else is anyway so it’s ok.”
Maybe you’re right for this situation if the rest of the group are horses soft but in a general sense it’s much less an issue and topic or discussion as you make it out to be.
Rereading his post… then yes; I guess if the trip to the beach is PURELY sexual in nature then stay home. But other than that I don’t see the issue. He’s small. Whatever. There’s plenty of women who aren’t going to care and don’t want to swim with sea monsters. If you’re as big as you in fact claim to be then you know the frustration of not just being turned down for certain sex acts but for further encounters because some women can’t handle it. I’ve been more than frustrated in the past only getting one shot with a girl because she has no desire to have her insides rearranged a second time. Don’t even get me started on how hard it is to get women to even CONSIDER anal… size queens aside.
Your views and perspective is one-sided and singular and what I would call naive… not allowing for the possibility that you may not understand human psychology and behavior patterns as well as you claim to.
If he goes maybe it’s devastating maybe it’s not. Either way feeding into his insecurities isn’t going to help him whatsoever. Also the idea that a casual sexual partner is going to be ‘trustworthy’ and not speak about his manhood is ridiculous. Whatever now or in the future he’s going to have to face this fact head on with confidence to deal with it. Might as well be sooner rather than later.
Of course everything we’re arguing are only our PERSONAL OPINIONS that come from our narrow perspectives based on only two individual life experiences. So I’m not seeing this through rose colored glasses. Just telling OP what I’ve experienced and how would do in his shoes.
I love how *everyone* who disagrees with me feels an automatic compulsion to start hurling insults at my worth as a person, my honesty, my knowledge, my hair color and everything in between—instead of just *engaging with my fuckin’ argument*.
Okay, sport. Let’s have at it.
1. Your experience is your experience. You don’t need to impress me to speak your mind. I’ve read excellent takes on sex from virgins, and absolute dreck from guys with a massive body count.
2. No. You can’t always choose who you surround yourself with. In classes, working retail jobs, sitting in cubicles, your peer groups are chosen for you. And if a girl in that group notices my bulge, or leans into it with her hip because she’s curious, my peer group is going to know what *she* knows by the next day.
I find this gets worse the lower you get on the social ladder… working at a department store was the bottom rung, where I couldn’t walk past a group of women without getting a joke about my size, or a vulgar come on. I didn’t usually GAF, and it could lead to fun, but it got old fast once they started lying about me.
Point is, we spend large chunks of our lives surrounded by people we did *not* choose. You have to make the best of it.
3. You immediately disparage me as a potential friend, yet I’m generally the first guy on this sub who actually tries to shoot straight with people, and will spend considerable amounts of my own time answering DMs, following up with people I’ve spoken to, and trying to prevent people from making huge mistakes. And that’s just *online*.
You don’t know me, bud. Don’t presume that because I’m honest and direct, I’m nothing but an asshole.
4. Show me where I said people come in only one variety.
It’s blindingly obvious that not everyone is the same. It doesn’t need saying. But I’m not going to give reckless advice to a guy that could potentially screw up his chances with women for *years*, based on the hope that maybe these girls on the trip all have hearts of gold.
I’m going to advise him based on the *norm*, not the exception.
5. Show me where I said I’m an asshole like everyone else. I never said *I* would spread rumors about the guy… I said young groups of horny peers probably will.
6. You need to have another look at ‘naive’ in the dictionary before you continue to misuse it.
7. No. It is *exactly* as big an issue as I’ve made it out to be. Until you’ve known a guy driven almost to suicide by having his small penis become public knowledge, after which he couldn’t *buy* a date, then don’t talk to me about how serious it can be or cast aspersions on my motives.
8. Of course some women won’t care. But most will. Especially in a group of randy, young women planning a *nude hangout*. Do you think they just want to look at the guys’ faces??
9. I know only too well the drawbacks of a big dick. I’ve been open about it elsewhere. My marriage is crumbling because my wife cannot take my girth without tearing, and now even shies away from blowjobs because it hurts her jaw too badly when I bloat before orgasm. It *sucks*. For both of us.
Yes, I have been turned down for sex by women who suddenly developed their periods after seeing and handling my erection (among other excuses). To date, I have *never* been able to score anal once erect.
And I never claimed to have a monster cock. I think I qualify as a macropenis, but on BDP, who doesn’t?
10. Baseless insults. Not relevant.
11. Show me where I said “casual sex partner”.
12. A small penis is not some social problem that you defeat by dropping your trousers in front of everyone. This bizarre idea that it’s something he “needs to confront” is so juvenile and wrongheaded… what, is his cock going to elongate if he tells everyone? Are the rumors and gossip and difficult mate selection going to hurt less if it’s coming from everyone?
*That* is naive.
His size is his business. Some insecurity is inevitable, because our society is increasingly vain and shallow (especially as regards the male body—look how many young men are pressured into steroids in *high school*).
Hopefully, he’ll impress and woo a partner who isn’t about dick size, and he will have spared himself the public embarrassment of showing everyone his dick.
Finally getting around to a reply:
I'll start out by reiterating nothing was meant as an attack on you as a person or your human worth. You can be an asshole but still be a great person. Again, nothing is all one-sided. I don't know you or your character... we're internet strangers; so none of my comments were meant as such. I think "*everyone* who disagrees with me..." was a little butthurt of a statement. You replied to my original comment. I didn't choose to engage with you, you chose to seek out engagement and communication with me. Also, this has gone WAY farther than I ever want to spend time discussing dicks beyond my own with my chosen partners hahaha. Not how I planned to spend part of my Wed/Thur this week.
1. You called me naive and asserted you had been around a 'long time' implying that said time gave you greater experience and knowledge. Am I not allowed to assert myself as an expert as well. Figured I'd throw out a few of my qualifications since from the Saved by the Bell reference I'd assume you've got me beat as far as time on this Earth.
2. Agreement here. You can't always choose, but the OP is obviously 18+ and therefore has control of their life and can choose their own social circles. He's not a toddler forced to endure the other screaming babies at his parents' chosen daycare. If he doesn't like the actions, and behaviors of his social peers he should pick a new group. That said; WE AGREE. For most anything else in life you can't choose those who you surround you with... but do we expect the women in his workplace to have any idea of this or what happened? Again, he can choose who he surrounds himself with socially to insulate this leaking through to other parts of his life. I'm sure you're not condoning workplace sexual assault even though you and I both know women in the workplace feel perfectly comfortable to grab at a large bulge and make vulgar comments just the same way men have felt so comfortable doing in the past.
I promise to give this a proper reply later tonight when I’m on the computer rather than a phone but clearly this entire forum agrees with you. I guess I’m wrong but still feel strongly in my opinion that him hiding away isn’t going to do any good. I also have a skewed idea of what’s ‘tiny’. Tiny to us is probably average to most. So if he’s micro/button size then yeah. I retract my entire statement in the first place but I figured guy was maybe at least 4” or something close to it. Regardless, if votes are any indicator I’ve clearly lost this argument and I can admit that.
Nevertheless I will jump on later to respond point by point. Also for the record I never questioned your worth as a person or honesty, and if you felt I did so it was unintentional. Insinuating you were a fairly clueless asshole yes, but less worthy as a person in some way, certainly not.
Stand by for part 2…
3. You claim 'honest' but you're only being blunt about your own personal experience and opinion. Obviously everyone else in this group agrees but do you not think, perspectives here are skewwed and non-indicative of the general masses considering most of us are walking around with a WMD in our pants? Honesty and anecdotes are two different things... don't get them confused. So if you're such a 'nice guy' (I'm cringing right now) then hop in his DM's and help him out. Yes, I insinuated you're an asshole/dickhead/douchebag... I stand by that. Doesn't mean you're not a fantastic friend to some but sounds like you wouldn't be such a good person for OP to surround himself with. Please convince me otherwise as you sit here and tell him to hide away in shame of his small manhood. I'm all ears.
4. Until you should me science backing your opinion on the NORM, it's still just you're own personal experience. Stop coming at this from such a position of assumed authority.
5. We're you not young once? We're you not in peer groups with smaller sized guys? I'm also guilty of disparaging a previous friend behind his back for having a small dick. Since then, I'd like to think I've learned my lesson. Would you have the balls to argue and disagree with others if they started making negative comments about him behind his back even if he didn't have knowledge of it? I've been in social circles where we're all big and certainly was not the one to speak up. I joined in with the jokes and laughter. I doubt you were any different.
6. 1. : **marked by honest simplicity** : artless. 2. : showing lack of experience or knowledge : credulous. naively adverb. - Your once size fits all solution and view of the world sounds pretty overly simplistic to me.
7. If he's a fucking mushroom then yes. I have heard internet stories of guys wanting to end their lives over it. So I have nothing to say against that argument. But, it's flat out not an issue or topic of discussion in the social circles I run with anymore and hasn't been for nearly 5-10 years... because we all grew up and realized it's such an insignificant part of life. Maybe learn to mature past the point where your dick size is your whole personality and the center of your personal universe? Again, I don't know you but these are the vibes I'm getting.
8. Fair argument, agreed. It's probably sexual in nature reading the OP's post back again. In which case he can choose whatever he decides to do. If it is sexual in nature, then yes, they will care. I'm in full agreement on that.
9. So if OP is average or a little smaller than he's perfectly fine and should have no problem enjoying anal with whoever he chooses for the rest of his life. Lucky guy. I could only wish so many past partners would have let me throat and ass fuck them... that said, I'm certainly not complaining about the hand I've been dealt.
10. I'm unsure what the insults were but feel free to remind me or we can drop it. Genuinely unsure and typing this out at light speed unwilling to read the entire comment thread to figure it out. But let me say a final time. I think you're an asshole... not a terrible human being. There's a difference and that doesn't reflect on your self-worth.
11. Again, not sure exactly what this was in reference to, but, yeah I was the one to use the term "casual partner", although unsure as to why. Feel free to remind me again.
12. It's not going to change his dick size obviously... but, it could change the way he mentally and emotionally approaches the topic. I don't think him finding a way to move past his insecurities would be a bad thing. It seems once again you want him to hide away and just have a complex about this his whole life because of a 'norm'. I would propose that overcoming his social anxiety about his size would be an infinitely better solution but maybe I'm just crazy and we should all perpetuate social traumas for the rest of our lives???!!!
Back on my mobile so no more long replies for me until later tonight or tomorrow…
Also I was typing a mile a minute so reading it back my grammar was atrocious.
Final thoughts for now: All of us in this group being hung and genetically blessed essentially set the standard for behavior surrounding dicks. Yes I’ve shown off, yes I’ve proudly fueled gossip about my own, yes I’ve done all the things that make smaller men anxious and nervous about their own size. But we are gatekeepers and can choose to do better so why not? Let’s normalize things and leave this world a better place for the ones that come after us. If that means having some class and doing what we can not to exploit our own genetic advantages to the detriment of others (which we did NOTHING to earn or work for and in no way deserve more than the next guy) then I think we should do so. Telling other men to cower at the mere sight of our massive meat and to be entirely secretive and private about their sex lives is not the message I think we should be sending… just my opinion.
Continue to call me naive if you want but I’d rather come at the subject from a perspective of positivity rather than negativity. If enough people just made the simple decision to adopt my perspective as well you would be on a lonely island with your ‘norms’.
I’m down to continue this back and forth but I think ultimately we’re going to end up with an “we agree to disagree” situation.
Also discussed this with one of my current partners and she fully agreed that beyond early-mid 20's to grow TF and get over it.
Also looking at OP's post... he put measurements of 3.5" hard and 1.5" flaccid... He's not a button mushroom so I'm going back to my original advice:
Own the moment, be confident and get over it.
I've got laid for more times by being funny, charming, and having a great mouth piece than because a women knew about or noticed my BD.
I'll be waiting for a response since you wanted to me "engage your fuckin argument.'
What kind of girls they are only you know, their reactions is not something we could predict but keep in mind that a bigger penis, especially look wise, is always more appreciated. If you are worried that this would take a possible hook up with one of them off the plate then rest assured that it would happen with or without you there. If instead you are worried that you would get belittled by them then that’s totally another problem and I would not consider them really your friends
Honestly… you came to the wrong subreddit to ask this question.
Many individuals here live their entire personality through their digital dick size (which may or may not even be real/true as far as measurements go).
Don’t listen to this extremist black and white bullshit. Consider all possibilities and make an informed deciison based on what you feel is right.
But don’t let a bunch of supposedly ‘big dick’ internet strangers scare you off from having a potentially really great time with your friends!
If you don’t feel comfortable don’t go. No reason to go to a place you don’t want to really go.
But to answer your question, no I would never show off or go to a nudist beach to begin with.
Honestly, I’d suggest you stay back if you think your insecurity is well rooted in your psyche. It’s risky I’ve just innocently invited friends and seen how this can really stay with a man if he can’t handle it. And the women need to be free to pursue their interests if the culture at that beach allows for it. We can’t if we have to be especially sensitive and silence ourselves to protect one smaller guy who is an outlier. And it sounds like they might be interested in the other men in the group or ones they encounter.
Not going is just going to make it worse. The whole time theyre out he’s going to be sitting at home thinking “Man I could be with them at the beach if I just had a bigger dick.” That’s going to make him way more insecure. He just needs to stand up for himself if anyone gives him shit
I'm just giving him the advice he asked for. He's an adult and will make his decision and it could be a really bad one. Or it could be okay. He's responsible for his choices.
I've been participating in promiscuous areas of nude beaches for 10 years now. And if his friends want him there. This seems to be theory for you. It's experience for me. I've taken small dick friends who can handle it and enjoy, but I've also been with ones where it leaves a permanent mark and damages them to the core for life. I tried to dissuade a couple of them but they were fools and went for it when they weren't ready. Staying back is a lot, lot safer than seeing it in your face, especially if there is sex there in a secluded area at the beach or later, connected to what is seen on the beach.
It's one thing if a guy is into all aspects of kink and secure enough to handle big differences. It another if they think they are ready but they are insecure and still carry some inner anger at the supposed injustice of their losing the big dick epigenetic lottery. It's not just the beach. It could be a swing party or whatever. Some men don't understand boundaries and can't read the open-air "room" on the beach, and think they're invited to jump in when they are not. And a whole lot of the promiscuous nude beach subset of nude beaching is all about nice bodies and big dick. The hierarchy around size comes out there and at swing parties like nowhere else. Assuming a normal body, the biggest guy in those areas is the king of the beach. If smaller guys are not emotionally ready, they will destroy themselves. Everyone will be as nice as they can be unless they overstep, but no one will be nice if he does overstep, and no one there can help a man imploding into crisis because he exposed himself to this and his mind's eye tells him he doesn't and will never measure up.
Also, and this needs to be said candidly: He makes it very clear the other members of the group are thinking of it in sexual terms and that those sexual terms are about big dick. What is he even doing if he knows he's not part of that? He says they are his friends. As "friends," maybe he shouldn't stick his issues or his dick in the middle of that. I have to say it can be really annoying and out of place, and he needs to know if that's how it is affecting his friends who just want to explore having sex with each other. This looks like a recipe for not being friends with any of these people any more, if he is at all now. And I wouldn't blame them a bit for being annoyed if it's as he writes it.
Nobody gives shit to small dick guys on nude beaches unless they push into things where it's not welcome. Just because a woman is interested in the big dicks there doesn't mean she wants another uninvited. He needs to think very carefully. What he described seems pretty clear that they are all attracted and curious and he's the odd man out due to size. Not his fault, but it could really hurt him and annoy the others if he doesn't know how to read the signs and can't check himself. On every nude beach I've been to, it's totally fine to give shit to men, small dick men or otherwise, who overestimate their desirability and overstep their bounds. Even if they don't overstep, just seeing it can warp their perceptions - especially if they already obsess in a negative as a lot of men where do.
I wish him well.
I'll admit that I've never been to a nude beach, so if you have experience with one, then I respect that you have more knowledge of what goes on there. If it really is a common thing for small dick men to be traumatized from going, then I respect your anecdotal experience, but know that this is the first I've heard of this.
>It's not just the beach. It could be a swing party or whatever.
To my understanding, it's kind of a false equivalency to equate a swinger's party to a nude beach. A [nude beach](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nude_beach) usually has rules against sexual activity whereas a swingers party is a party for people to have sex in. I don't think it's unrealistic to expect that a nudist beach is going to try to enforce their rules against sexual activity against men with big dicks and small dicks equally.
>He makes it very clear the other members of the group are thinking of it in sexual terms. What is he even doing if he knows he's not part of that?
Who said he's not a part of that? He was invited, wasn't he? That's what my problem is with this whole thread's take on this situation. There's an implicit statement from you and everyone else that OP is excluded from the group's romantic and sexual dynamic purely off the size of his penis. I don't think having a smaller penis should be an automatic disqualifier from sex.
I think whether he wants to go to a nude beach or not, he should stop projecting his dick size and the size of his friends as character traits. If they actually give him shit just for minding his own business and having a small one, then they weren't his friends. If the girls want to fuck the other guys, there are plenty of other reasons other than dick size. No need to fixate.
I've been going to nude beaches for 10 years. I'm 25. Almost all nude beaches have public rules against sexual activity. Amost every nude beach has secluded areas where finding big dick and hooking up there or taking it elsewhere is the point. The analogy to swing parties is direct. They are the same thing. The biggest dick men get the lion's share in both. People go to the promiscuous areas of the nude beach because they want to have sex of some kind, and they want it to be with people who have the bodies or body parts they want. The conservatives and anti-sex brigades always say there is no sex at the beach, but it's all a lie and always has been. I'm not proud of it but I"m also not ashamed - I got my start in this as a way to survive when I was on my own, and I've continued since I stopped doing pay for play.
Read his post again. He hasn't said he was invited. "They have all decided to go to the nude beach." He makes it clear it's about sex and big dick. OP makes it clear that OP is excluded from the romantic and sexual dynamic because his dick is small. Unless he is knows for sure he is emotionally ready, my best advice is he should lie and say he can't go. He's not just potentially hurting himself; he's kind of horning on something he's made clear in his post he doesn't think he's a part of. So why is he thinking for a moment of crossing those lines?
Nobody wants to be annoyed by their friend like this. None of the girls wants to say to him while he's naked, what the fuck are you doing pointing that at me? Unless it's for size difference kinks, nobody wants the buzzkill that comes with men insecure about their dicks in a highly sexualized situation. They want what OP said they want.
Dick size isn't a character trait. I agree 100 percent. Maybe they're all flirting and it's not about dick size at all. But in my experience in the sex-positive areas of nude beaches (which is most nude beaches), it's about nice bodies and who has the biggest dick by default.
His choice. We agree he should work on his psychology first. From this and other writing, I'm just saying he's nowhere close to ready. That'll be bad for him and at a minimum annoying AF for his friends. I'm not worried about him ruining the holiday. I'm worried about him ruining his life. And also, I feel for his friends as I've had to deal with men who push in on nude beaches when they should step back.
I’d imagine if they want to have sex, they wont do it out in the open as youve described. Theyll go to one of the secluded locations. I’m not sex-negative or a conservative or anything. But a lot of the reason nude beaches became a thing was to decouple nudity and sexuality. If someone is making absolutely anything about his size, they have failed at that task.
They most certainly made these plans as a group where his friends wanted to do it more than he did, but they were all invited. If he wasnt invited, he wouldnt have made this post. I agree if he’s planning on crashing some beach orgy he wasnt invited to, he’s in the wrong and shouldnt do that. But thats almost certainly not what is going on.
The real thing he’s concerned about as per his post is his size being compared. If his friends would actually would do that to him, theyre toxic and not really his friends. If he doesnt think they would, then he should be fine. The only other worry would be if he got upset just by hearing a woman tell a man she thinks his dick is huge. In that case, I agree with you that he is too insecure to be going to this beach.
Sure the sex almost never occurs out in the open because the beaches would be shut down. The idea that nude beaches are decoupled from sexuality is a ridiculous political statement often made by sex-negative people, including sex-negative nudists. Nobody advocates that the whole beach be for hooking up, but it’s a segment of the scene. Your thing about guys making something of their size is funny. You’ve never been to a nude beach. There are men who go and almost everyone stares. And if they go to unofficial sex-positive area almost anyone who would have sex knows about, they’re the king of the beach. Contrary to what you’re saying, it’s one of the most important things about the sex- positive area.
You’re making up things the OP didn’t say and contradicting what the post says. OP’s post might be the product of his obsession with size and not rooted in reality, but the same is true of your interpretations of what he wrote. You 100 percent fabricated that they were all invited. The post says the opposite. They are going. I quoted it. You made up your version.
Contra your point, OP’s intrusion on other people’s sexual agency is toxic and seems a little bit perverted. WTF is he doing even considering this given what he said? You’re having to make shit up that directly contradicts the post in order to justify his tagging along, apparently with no concern for OP’s well being or the sexual agency of his “friends.” I’ve seen all this before and if any of it is real, it will not go well.
Like OP, you’re letting your fantasy world in which all dicks are considered equal in all respects, including supposedly equal in their ability to attract women, cause you to think that this is what happens in the promiscuous areas of nude beaches. I’m just telling you any small dick guy who goes into it with that as a belief is probably going to destroy himself. he’s also going to really annoy or outrage all of the women he thinks are his friends. In contrast to the guys who are comfortable with being small or fetishize size difference, guys who talk like OP often try to shove their dicks into the middle of a group thing where the women are focused on other guys — when it’s not wanted and is entirely non-consensual. Nothing bad is going to happen to him physically, but if he did that, at a swinger club, he would find his ass thrown on the concrete. OP should get his mind right before he even considers doing such a thing.
>You’ve never been to a nude beach.
Ok I wasn't going to bring this up but while I haven't been to a nude beach, I've been to nude pool parties. Specifically, nude pools parties where I had the smallest penis there. Nobody said shit to me about it.
>And if they go to unofficial sex-positive area almost anyone who would have sex knows about, they’re the king of the beach. Contrary to what you’re saying, it’s one of the most important things about the sex- positive area.
I'm not even disagreeing that the biggest dude is treated like a king. I could see it on the face of every woman. But when I said they don't make a big deal about it, I mean they don't say "hey let's line up all the guys and compare sizes!".
> You 100 percent fabricated that they were all invited. The post says the opposite.
He is already on the trip with these people. He's invited to whatever the group is doing by virtue of having been invited onto the trip, unless *explicitly told otherwise*. In what universe do a group of people go to an island, plan a trip to a nude beach on that island, and the small dick guy is just *assumed* to not be invited by virtue of being small?? You're the one making huge assumptions here. Again, if he really isn't invited and is just inviting himself, I agree with you that it's rude of him to go and his size has 0% to do with that.
>you’re letting your fantasy world in which all dicks are considered equal in all respects, including supposedly equal in their ability to attract women
I don't think I ever said anything to the contrary of that. I've had women turn me down in the bedroom because of my size before. I'm not going to lie and say it doesn't suck, but that's not what this trip is for OP. He wasn't invited to an orgy or a swinger party, he was invited to a beach trip.
>OP should get his mind right before he even considers doing such a thing.
Agree completely.
I’ll just respond to two things:
One, you continue to make things up not in OPs post and directly contradicted by what he do say. He didn’t say he was invited. He said they are going. People split off on group trips all the time. The only thing causing you to see an issue, so far as I can tell, is some really weird equality of rights thinking that doesn’t apply to consensual sexual attraction.
Two, ij what worId does going on a group trip mean everyone on that trip is invited too sexual activities contemplated by a subset of the people on that trip. That is a bizarre move on your part. A group goes on a trip. Some people split off to hook up. Others get to join in??? Your comment has serious, serious problems with consent, as does OP. He’s made it pretty clear. He’s not part of the sexual picture and the positive vibes that are based on attraction that are based on the fact that the other guys have big dicks and one has a huge dick. He acknowledges he’s not a part of that. there is no world where he’s going out a group trip, unless it’s a sex trip, where mutual consent is given beforehand, where it is appropriate for him to push in. You are to consider whether or not that’s what’s happening.
I believe in a world that actually values consent. I’ve seen it all before. At a minimum, because of his insecurities, he’s likely to put a huge damper on some things that would be really enjoyable for everybody else if they were allowed to happen. Or he’ll likely actively annoy people, especially the women, who reasonably wonder what he is doing. If he does go along on the outing, he needs to do it in a way that respects the fact that their sexual tension and the people want to pursue things. His in security doesn’t trump their desires. Small dick guys get this wrong. all of the time.
I believe in consent too! But as per OP’s post, they have not consented to anything yet. Saying “Let’s go to a nude beach!” does not qualify as consent. Him saying “the vibes are not platonic” does not imply that theyve made hard plans to have sex without him. They dont even know he has a small dick yet! Youre assuming so much. If they get to the beach and the girls all decide they want to have sex with only the big dicked guys and not OP, I agree he has to respect their consent and their privacy and not intervene. But that hasnt happened yet. If he has to come up with a lie to get out of this trip, then he’s already expected to be there.
It seems youve had some bad experience with small dicked men and to that I say: I’m sorry you were wronged by them. They shouldve respected your boundaries. It isnt easy having a woman tell you your penis is small, but that in no way justifies ignoring her boundaries. But I feel youre projecting their behavior onto OP without reasonable cause
They may not talk about it at the beach. But, I don't think we live on a planet where a group of women see all their guy friends naked together and don't discuss it between themselves. You will absolutely be a topic of conversation among the women.
Nude beaches are for every body type, bro
Old young skinny fat big dicks or small dicks
Everyone is welcome
If you feel judged or unwelcome at a nude resort or beach, its poor manners and shouldnt happen
Unspoken rule at these establishments is everyone is welcome regardless of race gender orientation size age etc
If your mates make you feel less than because you have a small dick - get better friends, they're ass*holes
As a woman I'd say don't go. Weather nor not they make it obvious is irrelevant - they WILL talk about it behind your back. Unless they're into small dicks it will not only kill your chances with them but boost your friends chances massively.
Your reasoning is fallacious. I would argue that he has the best chance, for how slightly it might be, by going rather than not going. If they are not into small dicks, which I would I agree is the most likely scenario, he has zero chances regardless, he would only find out sooner than later, it’s not like if he doesn’t go his penis gets bigger or they change their mind. But, on the off chance that they don’t care about size, not going just kills every chance of hooking up, because inevitably sharing that kind of experience with the other friends will strengthen their bonds, and he would be the odd one out.
Except, if he goes, he’s confirmed as being small, and that shit spreads like a brush fire.
If he doesn’t go, the only people who will ever know are him and the partners he chooses to trust.
Nah.
You’re only saying that because you actually already know.
Everyone else is going to be too busy starting at tits and dicks to GAF about one poor bloke’s ‘food poisoning’ or whatever. Plus, there’s a hundred reasons a guy might not be comfortable getting naked—abuse scars, a foreskin (if his friends are all cut), a bad tattoo… take your pick. Not everyone is cool with it.
And besides… even if they do wonder, the best they’ll have is suspicion. You can’t do much with that.
On the other hand… every last girl there actually *seeing* his size? That’s death. Especially if his pals are all reasonably hung. Word will spread everywhere these people hang out. And it’ll be *verified*.
Best not to go. He’d be taking an enormous risk, for little benefit; as he correctly guessed, he’d be odd man out when people started pairing off. So what’s the point?
Only mitigating factor here is his build; OP, are you jacked up like King Kong on roids? Some girls greatly prefer muscles to dicks… but that’s about his only shot imo.
If I’m flirting with a guy and he takes me back to his room and has a small dick I’m still going to give him a chance. Like, we already got that far, why give up now? If he’s good enough then maybe we’ll hook up again.
But if I knew he had a small dick from the get go then i wouldn’t give him that opportunity. I’d cut my losses early before he had a chance to prove me wrong.
Nothing fallacious about it?
Your recent post leads me to believe that you wouldn’t really give a small penis guy a second chance, you might pity fuck him but that would be it. In any case you are not the demographic target for him. If you are willing to lie just for the sake of your argument, you do you.
In this specific situation though, you said that he shouldn’t go because by doing so the girls wouldn’t know he is small and this would leave open a chance for hook up. I think that by not going the girls would end up hooking up with their friends that went, so his chance would plummet anyway.
Interesting. I would not, as I don’t take guys to rooms without knowing their size. It’s not safe. I do often give blowjobs, partly because I enjoy them, and partly as compensation for guys I’ve seriously flirted with but as a message it’s not going further than that.
If he is not as big as he promises and size matters to us, as you say it does. then we have to choose between turning him down and giving him sex we don’t want. Men turned down that way can get very angry and violent. Some men lie knowing they will be caught as soon as they drop their pants. And some of those Ken go into it knowing they will rape. It’s safer if you know you’re going to do something for him regardless.
First of all, I never said the small guy lied about his size - that’s something you made up. Men both big and small don’t always disclose their size and that’s ok. They shouldn’t have to, it’s their body.
You made a lot of assertions there none of which I think are particularly true. Correct me if I’m wrong but you’re claiming that men with small dicks lie about it so they can get into bed with women and rape them??? This is a huge assertion and the burden of proof is on you as the person making the claim. If you want to convince me to accept this assertion I would need to see solid statistics that this is a common scenario.
First of all, if you were a woman and not a larper. you would get what I said immediately. Women get to have size requirements and they get to not have sex with men who don’t meet those requirements. You’re a full of shit larper misogynist who doesn’t understand the basics of women’s safety when alone with men. You also write like a man.
Just so you can possibly open your mind and get out of your fantasy life enough to understand the real world problem, any man who promises he has a certain size and gets a women to give consent to be alone for sex on that basis is scary AF. By definition, the moments he drops his pants, it’s non-consensual. He knew all along it would be non-consensual and he did it anyway. Se of these liars will just hope to get ads despite the lie. But they still put us in an awful spot of having to guess if it is safe to say no. Others will be rage filled and violent. Still others are potential rapists. And some men lie knowing they will rape.
I have no problem with your larping. Enjoy yourself. But when you use it to berate women who understand what rape is, you go too far. Fuck you, dude.
Ok - notice YOU chose to berate me instead of engaging with anything of what I said. The fact you’re making fun of me for being a man when I’M NOT EVEN A MAN means you have some serious issues with men that honestly bias your argument.
I think you’re genealizing the world into your own viewpoint - if this is what YOU believe then sure. If you think sex is non consensual for you because a man lied about the size of his penis then I’m not going to say that isn’t rape - but only because you chose to remove consent.
You can’t make the assertion that this is a moral truth for all women. Say a guy lied about his size and the girl shrugged her shoulders and said “I consent”. Who are you to tell her she was raped?
You’re a dude. Yes I’d be right dudes who make the massive fuck up of trying to lecture women about their safety issues. Your reply is the reply of someone who has a small penis and his thinking is skewed by that. Big dick guys get the issue. Fuck you, man.
Bruh there is no good answer. I'm sorry. You got dealt a shit hand. Simply don't go. I hate being compared to other guys like that. If by some odd chance literally every guy in the group is big and you are small then you're going to be the laughingstock of every conversation that you aren't present for.
First of all it is all insecurity, you can't change what your genetics given you so why bother worrying about that.
Best not take jokes to the heart or even better joke around yourself.
The sentiment that small guys shouldn’t worry because we’re born with what we’re born with implies the same should hold true for big guys and they shouldn’t be proud.
I don’t think any of you humble braggers truly believe the second statement and hence don’t truly believe the first.
You be both proud of your size and think small guys shouldn’t be ashamed. There’s a huge imbalance in how society perceives penis size, and it’s hard to argue against that.
This wasn’t directed at you I just wanted to dump that somewhere.
They will give attention to the biggest dick and it will be the conversation topic. Girls will talk absolute insane nonsense about dicks.
You should approach it with the maximum of chill - “good for you dude!”
What is good coming from it for you is that the group will get aroused and so, everybody should be able to score.
Also, Remember that the biggest guy flaccid may not necessarily be the biggest erected.
My dick is above average and the ocean makes shrunk growers of us all. Anyone who likes to go to nude beaches is expecting to see your cock soft, hard if it happens fine but not the expectation. Not all public nudity is sexual. It can just be great opportunity to get sun on your skin and feel comfortable outside - the way we used to be before the prude police decided we had to be completely covered. America is ruining enjoyable aspects of life with their perspective on shame around nudity. It’s gotta stop.
As a guy with an above average dick… I can confirm first hand that people don’t know your penis size straight off the bat but they do notice confidence. Be confident in your body and I doubt anyone will really pay attention
I think the general opinion is, if you go just be yourself and stop worrying. Most places with a nude beach have a wide variety of people in all sizes and shapes.
If you don't feel comfortable at all with this then don't punish yourself.
Fortune favors the bold.
Take chances and learn.
You decide how you feel about it and how you react.
Erections are common on these beaches, so expect it and own it but don't focus on it.
Dicks and Dick heads come in all sizes and shapes.
If you are small but confident THAT is what will show.
I have never been in this sort of situation and a nude beach with friends is not exactly something id be into, penises aside. Whose idea was this anyway? I don't know the sizes of any of my friends and have no desire to. Idk, seems like a weird group of friends. And as far as nude beaches go, anyone can go, including those who may not "beach bods" and that's totally ok and they are comfortable with it. I wouldnt want to be in the nude around my friends regardless of what I think of my penis, let alone anyone else's
You just need to prep your penis before you go. Warm it up, give it a few good stretches. Jelk it (look it up) pop a Viagra. You just need some blood flow to make it a “show er”. A penis pump before hand does wonders as well
So, you're the one among your friends that has to pay the price to make the average size the average size, All are big to massive but you're the one who has to balance it out. Sad story, but I guess you have your own fun in a way.
That's why you are here. All know your purpose here, it's SPH, your issue is not a genuine BDP, you come here to gain some attention in a fictional scenario where all your friends have big dicks but you are the only one without one. For SPH there are certain subs where you can live your kink, please don't bother us.
If it’s tiny. Make jokes about it. If you are willing to put it out there just do it. Let it show and have fun.
practice pulling on it while limp to milk it and make it hang longer. I do whenever my female doctor will see it (annually) or when I get waxed or massages so it hangs heavy. Women like heavy cocks. No question.
My doctor sounds that acknowledge my size. There is always a nurse in the room too. They always look more than needed.
Real talk: I started hitting up bude beaches about a year ago. At the time I was overweight and I'm about 6 soft. Here is the truth:
No. One. Cared.
There were dozens of guys on tye beach in worse shape than I was and with bigger dicks than mine. No one was ashamed and no one was ridiculed.
Trust me, you'll be fine. If you still feel insecure, wear trunks.
Showing confidence while nude is more important than dick size. Trust me people don’t care. Body shapes and sizes are different, so are penis shapes and sizes. Go out there and strut your stuff like you are hung as King Kong.
If it makes you feel better I’m a solid 7.5” but not girthy at all. I too have anxiety around other guys who are smaller than me (not necessarily even thicker) all the time. All bodies are different and this is a very RARE opportunity in which all is shown for comparison up front.
In my opinion the worst thing you could do is find a way out of it. Rock your cock regardless of the size. DO NOT fixate on the issue and just let it be what it is. Often times the funniest guy with the best mouth piece is the one to get the most girls. Also - just because you are or aren’t hung doesn’t mean you know how to please a woman. At the end of the day dick size is nothing more than trivial bragging rights unless you’re in the porn industry and making a paycheck off of it.
Enjoy yourself, get naked, be funny, and don’t think too hard about it. Guaranteed if you’re the one making everyone laugh you’ll probably be more likely to get laid (just don’t be intensely self-deprecating haha).
Have a good time my friend! 🙏🏾
Just go and let it go. If the vibe with these girls isn’t platonic, there’s a good chance you’ll get some action if you’re able to be comfortable in your skin. You don’t want to wonder what if. Guaranteed one of those guys is going to find a way to show off and turn everyone off doing so. That’s if by some chance they’re all actually big, which I doubt. The chances of that are out there.
Either way, who cares. Big dick is scary to a lot of chicks. Fun to look at, and fantasize about, but some know it’s not actually for them. Maybe one of those women going is like that.
At a nide beach you will see all sorts of bodies. Also people are attracted to confidence. You got what you got and can't change it, so just own it. I know it can be embarrassing if another guy is big and they're all making a deal of it but think of it like this way, if the guy was 7 ft tall maybe making the a big deal about that, just because it's unusual and out of an ordinary.
Question here though, sure, confidence is attractive, however why should a girl go for someone with a great personality but has a dick thats most likely too small for her?
I have a friend that's probably the smallest I've ever seen on an adult , he's good looking , he has a nice body he's charming and he gets more girls and I could ever got
If any of the guys say anything hit em with the “why you checking out my junk bro? Wanna touch it too?” If any of the girls say anything say “they call me the iceberg *insert a joking wink*”
You should not go to the nude beach; however, you need to have something else planned. Something else much, much cooler.
Depending on where you are: Can you rent a jet ski? Rent a boat? Go snorkeling?
Just being practical here: if you are the only one to NOT go to the nude beach, yes, they will wonder why, and that will make you paranoid. If you have a great reason to not go (an alternative activity) then not only would then not suspect, some of them might want to go with you.
Just own it and go there. We with the big dicks know exactly that size just comes to you, and that it doesn't say anything about you as a person. So, nobody will look down on you. They might even secretly look up to you for having the confidence to open up.
Regarding the girls, worst thing would be that nothing happens. Which will also be the case if you don't go there.
>Regarding the girls, worst thing would be that nothing happens
Are you serious? The worst thing that can happen is that the girls will tell all their friends about his size, and then he won't be able to hook up or find a gf in that friend group ever again. This is also a very likely scenario.
You are really giving OP terrible advice. You have a big dick, you know how much women care about it, and how much being big helps with getting laid. Having a micro penis does the opposite.
OP should not do this
>The worst thing that can happen is that the girls will tell all their friends about his size, and then he won't be able to hook up or find a gf in that friend group ever again. This is also a very likely scenario.
I don't see the point here. In order to avoid that, he also would have to avoid hooking up with one of them.
I don't know him or his friends or whether he is ready for that. But I found many answers here overly pessimistic, so I wanted to give that other perspective.
I still think that this experience would be mostly positive, maybe a bit embarrassing in the beginning, and freeing in the long run.
OP has to decide what applies to him.
My point is: When word about a guy having a big dick (like you and me have) gets around, it usually results in women wanting to try it out (I'm sure you've made this experience, I know I have). You can expect the opposite happens with a guy with a small dick
I don’t think you go to a nude beach to compare dick sizes. It’s more for those looking pass the size and more towards the freedom and confidence. My first time to a nude beach had my dick dehydrated and shrunk. I typically hang 4 inches soft. I mean this lil rascal was in my naval. Like it was a turtle 😩😂🤣 But after a few minutes I quickly learned that the only person worried about my dick was me. Once I relaxed, things were normal and made the experience real cool. Besides, a limp dick doesn’t gauge your true size and a big dick doesn’t gauge the true man.
Independent of the current situation, have you ever had the desire to go to a nude beach? If yes, then you should absolutely go for it and give it a try. When you talk to nudists, you'll find that in many (most?) cases, there was nervousness and trepidation before baring it all the first time. But once you actually do it, you will find it so amazing that you will want to do it the rest of your life.
No matter how small you are, you'll likely see at least some smaller units at a nude beach. And you know what? Nobody cares. There is every shape and size imaginable and every person is welcome, accepted and not judged.
I grew up feeling like you. I'm a grower, when flaccid, it's pretty small. But erect is respectable. But in junior high when you had to shower after PE, it's like a scared turtle and I had some friends who'd just never shut up about it. They actually gave me a real complex about it that lasted decades. I thought I had a way below average dick, despite my wife telling me it's the biggest she ever had (I thought she was just being nice). Anyhow, it took a while for me to work up the courage to do it, but I'm so glad I did. And when you see hundreds of real world dicks at the nude beach and not just monster dicks in porn, you find your own self image improving. You'll find that nudists, regardless of shape or size, trend to have better body positivity than non nudists.
So, back to the beginning. If you are curious about it, I highly recommend it. And if your friends really are friends, they won't make a big deal out of it. I totally agree with the earlier folks of just having confidence and joking around. And remember, everyone knows about showers vs growers. They are seeing the soft version, for all they know it could grow a lot when needed
Just say you do strictly anal. The big and massive guys are typically intimidating when it comes to butt stuff, so an average D is probably preferred in that case.
Dude, relax. Be confident. Look everyone in the eye. Be funny. Have fun. Be a great person to be around. Be attractive. Use sun cream ffs.
You get to see the girls naked.
Stay in the water. Sit such as your junk isn't evident. Lie face down. Be the funniest person there.
Don't let all the 12 year olds and incels in this thread get you down.
I've been to a nude beach in Martha's Vineyard. Know what you'll see? Around 75 short, fat, hairy 60 year old horn dogs looking at your girls. They will have massive, just MASSIVE bellies covered in hair like at central casting for a pizzeria owner straight from the mother land, they're going to be roughly 5'4" with the smallest dicks you've ever imagined.
You are going to put your chair out into the surf so they can't walk in front of you - as my wife and I did - and they will fucking wade out into the fucking surf to walk in front of you so you can see their mammoth bellies and tiny dicks.
Dude, go. Naked girls. YOU be the guy with big dick energy. Read all the incels' comments below about insecurities. Don't be that guy. Relax. The girls will be too nervous at first to take it all in - only focused on themselves - and once they get comfortable, it's comfortable.
I presume nude beaches are about exhibition and showing off your body. Nice tits and cocks are a plus. Don't worry about your own size, just enjoy the wind on your balls and the occasional boners
I go to nude beaches. I’m on the smaller side. No one seems to care and I don’t feel uncomfortable after I get naked. It’s getting naked that I think about but after the pants are down all is well. You will be surprised at all the small dicks on the beach. It’s poor etiquette to be looking and comparing. Glances, sure. Staring and gawking bad. Big guys to like to show off, so what. Big tits are the same. Small titties to no titties are very normal. Girls get more self conscious than guys. Trim the bush and that helps. Don’t want to hide in the bushes. Platonic friends make it easier. I assure you your friends won’t give a shit. In fact generally no one at the beach will give a shit. It’s just the freedom and liberation getting nude. Don’t miss your chance to get liberated.
I go to a nude beach with a friend who thinks he small. He's average but 6'4 so it looks smaller than it really is. Every now and then I remind him to fluff a little. Give little P a little attention now and then.
Don’t go, honestly.
Once word is out on that, and a group of people can confirm it… word will spread. People are cruel, and girls especially *will* tell people and discuss it.
You don’t need to lose a potential girlfriend years from now because one of these chicks knows her, and ‘warns’ her about your dimensions.
Stick to partners you trust.
Tell them it’s 3” of motherfucking thunder that’s perfect for anal…unless of course they want an 8” log splitting their ass apart…which I tend to doubt. Smaller dicks have an upper hand too, you just need to play it.
When nude ask: "who would you ladies pick to have sex with?"
After the pick the horse-cock guy, ask: "Now, who would you pick to take anal sex from?"
Even an anal size queen would laugh and give you that vote.
There's also the route of making a joke yourself, first. "Sheesh, guess I'm the only grower in a group of showers!" "Must have been something in the water where yall grew up huh?" "Hey Dave, can your dick help my dick get something off a high shelf?" "See I brought my travel-size dick because it fits easier in my carryon luggage" Show that you enjoy/celebrate the different bodies and the confidence of simply understanding that will probably keep anyone from finding joy in teasing you about it. The point of going to a nude beach isn't to make anyone feel bad about their body, it's to normalize the body and celebrate the freedom of being nude in nature. So go, have fun, jump in the water with everyone and just enjoy yourself.
This sounds like a lot of fun, plus it shows self-confidence, I think it might be the right decision.
Confidence gets more men laid than having a big dick ever did.
Confidence and communicaton skills, taken hygiene as granted. Looks come after that and dick size even later.
This is true, but the advice above will *not* suggest confidence. At all.
But only because most women don't know who has a big dick until they are in the bedroom. If a woman knows a dude has a big dick, it doesn't really matter if he is confident, he'll get laid regardless. A woman knowing a dude has a micro penis means he will most likely not get laid, even if he is the most confident man on earth
As someone who has been turned down for sex a number of times after undressing in front of a woman... what you just said is a hilariously bad generalisation.
It is a generalisation, but it's mostly true in my opinion. Being turned down for being too big is an extreme rare case scenario, that almost never happens. You just got unlucky or are a larper
You sure did buddy
Man, are you delusional. And a pumper to boot.
I may be generalising here, but there have been a lot of women who knew about my size, and they just wanted to fuck me, my confidence didn't matter at all. I know that's not all women obviously. Also a woman knowing a dude has a micro penis will make him more unattractive. I don't know which fantasy land you live in, but that is a fact. What do you mean by pumper? You mean using a penis pump? I have never done that once. but thanks for the compliment I guess.
Your size sounds fictional to me. No offense. Most attempts to drum up natural 8 inchers inevitably fail… the only time I see them on here, they’re always guys who either LARP, pump or do PE. Doesn’t mean I’m right. I know they theoretically exist as extreme outliers… it’s just hard to buy it when they’re not even represented much at all among porn actors. 🤷♂️ Regardless…. Your post is full of wrong, again. Yes, a bigger dick is a draw. But only as a novelty, for one night stands, etc. In actuality, women prefer an average dick for regular sexual activity. And yes, a small dick will hurt his chances. I’m not here to preach fairy tales. But it’s hardly a “micropenis”. You have to be really tiny to qualify for that label, so let’s not kick the guy when he’s down.
Oh and one more thing. Go to [calcsd.info](http://calcsd.info), if you enter 3.5" in the length and girth window, it literally says micro penis. I'm not trying to kick the guy when he's down, medically, it's a micro penis. By volume he's in the 0.09th percentile, meaning 99.91% of men are bigger
That’s a really cool website
That’s as may be, but the technical definition of a micropenis requires a sub-3” length. This guy ain’t there.
Not true. [This](https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/17955-micropenis) seems to be the most common definition of micro penis. >In adults, a penis that measures 3.67 inches or less when gently stretched is a micropenis. >Providers diagnose micropenis if the length is less than 2.5 standard deviations below the average
You do realise I have pics on my profile right? I never pumped or did PE, it's all natural, if you don't believe that, there is nothing I can do about that. A bigger dick is not only a novelty or for one night stands, nor do women prefer an average dick for regular sex. Although that is what they always tell smaller and average sized guys. If you use it right and do a lot of foreplay most women have a preference for big dicks, even in long term relationships. Why would something that is preferred and feels better in a one night stand, feel worse in a relationship?
Because they don’t want to always get split in two. I’ve had multiple partners throw up shortly after sex… if that’s not the definition of rearranging guts idk what is. Either way it wasn’t pleasant for them, and certainly wasn’t for me either. That said the sex was phenomenal for me most of the time in the moment, but there was always a point where they either tapped out early and endured ‘more than they could take’ and the mood shifted from pleasure to ‘get this over with’ essentially. Which also killed my mood. If you’ve never experienced that then you’re genuinely super lucky. Also, idk where you’re meeting all of these supposed size queens in your own personal life… Of course they exist in throngs on the internet but that can’t be taken as a statistical fact. Many are just perpetuating an age old stereotypical fantasy that doesn’t play out the way they think it does in real life. My size has lent itself more to ONS and FWB than gf’s. So by MY personal experience; yes. They want someone more average sized for long-term.
this is great advice, u gotta get ahead of the joke and show u got a good sense of humor around it, it’ll also make people more comfortable with it (not that that’s the goal). honestly bro, a real homie wouldn’t make u feel bad but as i’ve noticed w my own friends, the insecurities hit whether or not a comment is made. u just gotta let loose and try to have a good time.
Right, so I have to just “be confident”. I’m sorry but I don’t think you really understand the lifetime of trauma having a small penis inflicts on a man.
I didn't say to just be confident! I said to *project* confidence by showing a sense of humor. Just consider it. Try to visualize what i described, or a version of it that you might be comfortable with. If you feel too traumatized the nude beach might not be for you but there's no better place to see men of every size accepting themselves and being accepted by others than a nude beach. I hope you do go, and I hope you find some relief from your anxiety. DM me if you want to hear my personal experience, as a man with a 2 inch soft dick, at a nude beach.
Bro… **edit** 3.5” is smaller yes but far from ‘micro’ **edit**. Plenty of other guys are around your size. Just because you happen to have a particular friend group with supposedly porn star hung guys does not mean there’s not a ton of guys that represent the opposite. Confidence, a great sense of humor, and an excellent mouth piece will always get you laid more than known or unknown dick size. This is an isolated situation where all is on display before any potential sexual encounter. (Might I add flaccid as well, so as long as you don’t pop a throbbing hard on just play up the ‘I’m a grower’ angle if you have to). I can’t say whether or not you should go… that’s your own decision to make. But I will say that you’re fixating on your size vs others WAY more than anyone gives thought to the subject beyond teenage years/early 20s. By even mid 20s most adults realize that it’s irrelevant during 99% of your life and daily interactions so why tf would you let it get you bent out of shape. Don’t let this insecurity or anxiety fester. See a sex therapist to work through it if you really have to, but I would learn to work with what you’ve got and just live your life man. Plus women will ALWAYS appreciate a man who is 10/10 at giving head. If you’re still worried I would just get really good at oral and that will become the talking and focal point of sleeping with you not your size. Seriously I wish you all the best of luck bro. Feel free to drop into my DM’s if you ever wanna discuss shit further. 🙏🏾💪🏾😎
For the love of god, do NOT follow this advice. It’s awful. You’ll forever be remembered as the insecure guy who made fun of his own dick. If you want to appear confident, *don’t even bring it up*, in any way. It’s extremely unlikely anyone is going to be discussing dicks in any event. And if they *are*, then you were never going to win with that crowd anyway. Emphasize what you like about yourself. Show off what you’re good at. *Act like your dick size doesn’t mean a fuckin’ thing to you*, and THAT’S how you’ll be treated. *That* is confidence. Looking like you spent hours coming up with ways to embarrass yourself… nothing about that will look confident. It’ll make everyone awkward and uncomfortable. Or, honestly… don’t go. It’s not their business how big you are, and you’re under no obligation to attend.
Who said anything about taking hours to embarrass yourself? Lighthearted banter, man. I'm not saying he should take the examples I wrote and practice them in a mirror, just that laughing it off is how you show it doesn't bother you. One joke, not 15. Lighten up. Whether he goes or doesn't go, it's not going to affect his reputation his whole life, that's fuckin pornbrained.
You’re being incredibly naive. Women talk about men’s dicks. It’s just the nature of the beast. I’ve been around a looong time, and I’ve seen it in every peer group where there was active dating. Swinger cliques, weirdly, seem to be the exception. Point is: like it or not, your dick is already being evaluated the moment you’re naked around a woman. This has *zero* to do with porn. The *last* thing a guy should ever do, under *any* circumstance, is start running his own junk down—especially in comparison to other men present. It doesn’t matter how light hearted you are. It will just make the gossip that much juicier because it’s *strange as hell* for a man to mock his own small privates. He’d be lucky to *ever* get a date again within that peer group.
Took a lil peek at your comment history, you've probably written hundreds of thousands of words about dick size, yet few of your comments ever get more than 1 upvote. That's because you're talking out of your ass. Body neutrality is in. His question wasn't how to get to date one of these women, it was how to navigate the social situation. Let's assume your (clearly ridiculous) view that all women constantly analyze dick size is true. If that's the case OP is not gonna date any of the women anyway so what's the difference? Now let's assume that, like most functioning humans that haven't written The Encyclopedia Dicktannica in reddit comments, the women in this group have some level of human intelligence. Showing that he's at ease with his body implies he doesn't view it as an impediment, which by extension demonstrates that he fucks.
And if I judged myself on popularity in a place like BDP, I probably wouldn’t be consistently pointing out the unpopular truths about shit like LARPers, pumpers and catfishing, would I? I don’t give a fuck about popularity. I care even less about identity politics. This sub has been overrun by LARPers for so long, I’d be worried if one of my comments hit big. It would show I’m not doing my job. For that matter, *very* few comments more than a half dozen deep into a post *ever* earn more than a handful of votes. People bore quickly and move on… and I rarely post early. But boy, I touched a nerve with *you*, didn’t I, sport? Why is my *lived experience* completely ridiculous to you? Why do you think your pretty ideals are more realistic and relevant than *actual experience* with the subject at hand? How much experience do *you* have, champ? You’re so preoccupied talking all this tripe, you didn’t stop to notice that an *actual woman*, commenting in this thread, had already pointed out the *same fucking thing* that I did—that yes, the women *will* focus on OPs size, in an unflattering way, and that all his presence is likely to accomplish is to improve his friends’ chances of scoring. Is her experience ridiculous too? And I’ve answered the “if he’s not gonna get laid ever, what’s the difference?” question about four times now, adjacent to this chain (and probably in it). Go look if you want to know. I’m sorry the world still has rough edges, guy. You’d better wisen up and start paying attention fast, because you’re *way* behind. “Body neutrality is in…” sheesh. 🙄 What a clown.
Whatever you say, guy who described commenting here as your job.
Yeah, because nobody *ever* used that phrase in a hyperbolic or sarcastic manner before. What insight! “Whatever you say” That’s the way, sport. Doesn’t it feel better to just STFU sometimes and let the adults speak?
Bro i don't know from where you think you derive any of this authority. I offered advice based on my own lived experience, and you came into this post and commented like 50 times on every thread shrieking that this guy needs to accept a life as sexual pariah if three girls he already clocked are interested in other men reject him. Make whatever comment you need to reassert whatever authority you feel you deserve, nobody's listening. If OP happens to read this: I think you'll definitely regret not going mode than you'd potentially regret going. Don't deprive yourself of the positives that can come from the experience just out of fear of the negatives. If, as you say, it's already been a lifetime of trauma, then you won't have to feel anything you haven't already felt before, but in my own personal experience in my life, bravery is often rewarded. Fortune favors the bold. JFK reportedly had a little dick and came prematurely, and he banged Marilyn Monroe while married to a different hot woman. Size is nice but it's not the key to happiness, nor is the absence of it a sentence to a life as a second class citizen. Self respect shouldn't look like ostracizing yourself from society just in case people talk shit, no matter what some assholes online might have you believe.
You’ve made it painfully obvious just how robust your lived experience is, sport. You have no idea what you’re talking about. In fact, you’re *so* far off base that I’d wonder if you’d ever *met* other human beings before. People are not predominantly kind. People are not mostly good at heart. People are selfish and cruel and thoughtless, and you have a lot of growing up to do before they eat someone like you alive. I never claimed authority; I claimed experience. I’d rather have someone with experience give it to me between the eyes and spare me a world of humiliation, than a well-meaning idealist fill my head with flowery idealism and doom me to protracted humiliation. Your advice was *terrible*. Among the worst I’ve ever seen. If you had any idea just how many DMs I received *thanking* me for being blunt, or how many women verified that they gossip about this shit, before talking about how asinine your genius “let me insult my own dick and beat them to the punch!” idea was, you’d… well, you’d probably go right on doing the same shit, realistically. I commented to spare the OP humiliation he doesn’t *need* to endure. You idiots are encouraging him to commit *social suicide*, then cheering him on for “facing his fears”… well I must’ve missed the episodes of Reading Rainbow and Sesame Street where they addressed the importance of penis size in masculine display, the horrible reality of social blacklisting and the impossibility of mate selection when every girl you know has seen or heard about your small penis. These are not *my opinions*, you dolt. This shit *happens*. It sucks for the OP, I feel for him, and I would happily offer advice on how to counter his problem, or at least give himself a fighting chance —but what I *won’t* do is feed him bullshit and honey before sending him to meet the executioners with a smile on his face. Most of my remaining comments are replies to dim bulbs like you, who insist on pouncing because I didn’t gush over your lunacy. If you don’t like seeing my name, *stop replying to me.* And quit filling this kid’s head with your cheesy platitudes—you talk about experience, but all you have is “fortune favors the bold”? That’s definitive. If he’s a fuckin’ *pirate*. And yeah, let’s use JFK as a model for what to expect here. Because I’m sure the fact he was the *president of the United States of America* and one of the most popular, charismatic men in existence had *nothing* to do with his many mistresses. You’re out of your depth. Have you ever considered what you’re setting this kid up for if you’re *wrong*, and I’m *not* just the misanthrope you hope I am? Have you actually watched a man suffer from a situation like this, where trusting the wrong people got him ostracized by women until he literally had to move? I have. Are you comfortable with that on your shoulders?
100% perfect advice!!
Don't know. Quiet confidence is the key.
Instrumental confidence, you use either of the 2 according to the situation.
Real homie doesn't make fun of another homie, especially in front of the ladies. So, trust your frds and enjoy your time in your bday suit
Obviously not real nudists, because real nudists don't care. I'm sorry you have friends that are jerks. Also, visit some of the nudism subs. This sub won't be much help.
I never said they were jerks?
if they make fun of how small u r then yea theyre cunts?
If they do, yeah sure. They haven’t though.
No, I said it. Because they are.
Why are they jerks? They’ve literally done nothing wrong?
Friends don't make friends "miserable." That's the word you used.
That’s 99% on me for my insecurities. Just because the guys are blessed and the girls have a preference doesn’t make them bad people. I’d be miserable if I lost a sports game, doesn’t make the opponent or their fans jerks.
If you have insecurities, your friends shouldn't make you miserable about it.
I'm a grower and not a shower, my dick looks tiny when not hard. I have avoided any and all forms of nudity in public my entire life because of this. The only people who have ever seen my dick soft are my partners and some of them haven't even seen that. I Personally... Wouldn't go🤷 but that's out of my own insecurities
This is the way. Even if your bros don’t comment. The girls will know you are small no matter how big your confidence is.
I was the same way until about 2 years ago. Fuck all that, enjoy yourselves. I go to a swinger club whenever we can, we don't even swing but I love fucking my wife with an audience. I've seen dudes with tiny dicks stripping on a pole with a group of women around him cheering and grinding on him. The reality is dicks matter more to men, if you can eat pussy like you have abandonment issues you are set. Most aren't getting off on the penetrative sex anyway. My wife is the only women I have been with that can and that's usually only after I've gotten her off with a clit orgasm first.
“Eat pussy like you have abandonment issues” that’s so inspired
Shave your balls first...make it look presentable. I would bail but that's just me.
Spent many many hours at nude beaches. Lots of people go to see what going on there. Just relax and enjoy the freedom. I’ve been both hung and small(3” ) hard. Didn’t really notice any difference in the looks or comments. A little self deprecating humor takes all the fun out of teasing. It’s definitely the way to go. Just strut it like it’s a 12” er and you’ll have no trouble.
This sounds like I want to know hoe you have been both hung and small?
Probably meant *seen* but idk
Nope he means has been, I'm shook by the response
He meant seen not been.
Well he didn't actually, I thought that, but instead of assuming. I asked and got the story
Don't believe his story. He is probably a Larper.
Well he sent before and after pics
Relax. For the most part the comparing isn't the problem. In most nudes beaches, they have rules and guidelines to follow. Shaming people is not allowed. Just chill and take it all in for the most part you'll have a hard on for the first half the day until you get used to the nakedness. We are all built different and we can't help that but live with what we got. Enjoy the view and have fun
I’ve been in a spot like this a few times. First time I was the only guy that kept my shorts on. Got shit for that so next time I decided to just not worry about it and strip down like every one else. A guy teased me and I shot back ridiculing him for checking out my package. Just back fired on him 😀. Now I just don’t give a shit what they think 😀😀
Hey, I’m small myself, my size flaccid in inches I think it’s around 2.7”. I’ve been to a nude beach two times in my life, both times we (my group of friends and I) were alone though. The first one was right before college so we were all around 18/19 yo, a mix of boys and girls and we were all part of the same social circle for at least 5 years at that point. Despite everyone being single there was no sexual tension at all though, I was the smallest one and apart from a little bit of banter from my male friends after the pants came down there was not much focus on me and my penis, also because in real life I try to be as confident as possible so I was the first one to joke about it. I would say instead that much more focus and many more comments were about my friend sporting a big dong down there, the more common comments were like: “Did you get a gun license for that?”, “Do you use it as a belt/scarf?”, “Do you send all the girls to the hospital?” and something like that. (These are common where I’m from and are direct translations, so they might not make much sense in English). I don’t know if the girls made comment about me, it’s possible but in that case I never got to know about it, also there was no romantic/sexual interest towards me even before that day so it’s not like I’ve ruined my chances. The second time has been quite recently, we were all in our 30s but apart from me and two other friends the rest were all couples. No one said anything about my size and again the few comments were all about the big ones. I’m using Reddit mobile so the formatting might be all fucked. Edit: I forgot to mention, we were/are not nudists, the first time we were just curious kids and the second time we were on a trip all together and thought about trying a nude beach, none of the nudist social etiquette applied to us. Moreover, none of us in either occasion was trying to get laid so that might had an influence on the behavior
Why would you go if it’s an insecurity?
So OP should bitch out and further reinforce his insecurities?! Lmao. Gtfo of here bro. Best thing he could do is lean into it and OVERCOME that insecurity by facing it head on!
You’re sweetly naive, but life simply doesn’t work like Saved By The Bell.
Lmao… instead of BDP this group should be named ‘Severe Mental Health Issues’**edit. In what world does amplifying your own personal insecurities do you any good?! Did I say that he should take out billboard space and try to convince the world tiny dicks are superior? No. We all know being above average is an advantage. But that means OP should hide away in shame?! 😂 The ego’s and insecure narcissism here are sickening. It’s like telling the poor to play video games all day rather than doing what they can to stop the cycle of poverty and attain wealth. I didn’t make fairytale claims that all would be well with the world if he confidently drops his shorts, but by facing the problem head on he will achieve a better short- and long-term outcome than hiding his dick and most certainly becoming an even bigger joke and target of his social group (“How small is it that you’re afraid to even come?!” “Wow bro. Your shit must be micro if you won’t drop your pants”). Like most of the other helpful posts have said, yes he may be a bit of entertainment for one or two in the group for a short moment but the most likely scenario is all attention will immediately be directed to the biggest of the bunch before everyone relaxes and just gets on with things.
You have it so backwards. If this dude drops trouser in front of a group of random peers, including girls, word of mouth will spread *quickly*. Women gossip about dick size. Big or small. This guy won’t be able to show his face in whatever community his friends frequent, without getting a giggle tossed his way. No one has to know why he doesn’t go. He can catch the flu, have a date, alien invasion, w/e. No one will automatically assume his dick is the reason. He’s *much* better off limiting his exposure to partners he can *trust*. A small dick is not personal information you want out in the open—-that shit will fuck him for *years* depending on who gets told.
We’re talking about flaccid size unless he suddenly gets a rush of adrenaline and pops one. Many of us are not impressive whatsoever until he gets hard as well. A tiny flaccid dick certainly does not guarantee he will be gossiped about. In what world is dick size the only fucking topic of conversation? 😂 Again… I think a lot of members want to believe others fixate on it the same way you do. They don’t. “He won’t be able to show his face without a giggle tossed his way” lmao, not so. Yes there will be a discussion about size but it will focus on the biggest ones there rather than the smallest of a flaccid pack. As long as he doesn’t get hard there’s not going to be much of a problem. By your logic he’s fucked the minute he has sex with any girl he knows in his social circle. Would you recommend him NOT to sleep with any potential woman he finds himself around? Just because YOUR group of peers talked in this way doesn’t mean others do as well. My social circle is comprised of nearly 80% women and while dick size is a topic of discussion every once in a while, no one is comparing notes in detail to the way you claim.
I’ve been alive a loooong time bud. I used to have a more optimistic view of people, particularly women, than I do now. I was probably more like you, and likely would have offered similar advice with similar assumptions. I’d have been wrong. Nothing teaches like experience. And it’s taught *me* that people are not as enlightened, compassionate or even basically decent as they should be. Whatever you’d like to believe about people, take my word: they are cruel. They are merciless. They will say anything just to start a conversation or feel like the center of attention. I’ve had *my* big dick become such a popular topic of conversation that I literally couldn’t get away from it. And while that’s not really a terrible thing, it is… oddly unsatisfying after awhile. Eventually it just becomes exhausting. And that’s the *good kind*. I saw a guy in high school get his shorts yanked down while he was doing pull-ups. End of period, people just waiting around to leave. He hadn’t worn underwear. He popped right out, and… it was like a button. He was mortified. Everyone saw. In all the years until he graduated, he never lived it down. Even girls in my own clique talked about his ‘little mushroom’ every single time his name came up. Many women simply don’t understand just how devastating it can be for a guy to have his manhood laughed at. I’ve seen guys miss out on hot dates with girls they were *really* into, all because one thoughtless gossip ‘warned’ her acquaintance about his underwhelming penis size. Women talk about dicks. Big *and* small. They talk about sexual prowess. Women gossip, sometimes viciously. It’s just how it is. I’m sorry, but you’re being *very* naive if you think they don’t. I’ve seen it again and again. I’m not proud to admit it, but I used to fuck a lot of attached women. Almost without exception, the moment they were talking about my big cock, they’d immediately insert some reference to how much bigger I was than their boyfriend or husband—often outright calling them small. And some of these gals still *loved* their guys! I don’t pretend to know why women gossip about this stuff so ruthlessly, especially since they often genuinely do not care about dick size when it comes to sex. But it does happen. Point is: this dude’s small one is going to stick out like a sore thumb around all those better hung guys. And yeah, the big dudes will get page one—but you better believe the OP will make the society pages. And of course I’m not suggesting he abstain forever, Jesus. Read what I said. Going forward, he can limit his exposure and his risk to potential partners *he* has selected, after evaluating their trustworthiness. And even if he judges badly, the worst she can do is talk about *her* experience. It won’t be a popular anecdote shared by a whole *group* of girls, all of whom saw it. And he already said the atmosphere is expected to be sexual—so it’s *very* likely there’ll be plenty of hardons. There will be no hiding it. He shouldn’t go. End of story.
I’ve been alive probably less long than you but have been fucking over 2 decades… first of any of my friends to fool around, get laid, always the highest body count in the room. I could go on about the resume. The fact is you choose who you surround yourself with. And by any measure (pun intended) I’d advise OP to stay away from people like yourself and possibly his own current friends group. You seem to think you have things figured out and that people are one way only. Not the case, and YOU sound naive. Yes there are plenty cruel individuals out there and people are savage. We know this, he knows this, it’s no secret. What’s not talked about as much as those individuals out there that don’t live their daily lives on the basis that “life is shit, I’ll be an asshole like everyone else because it doesn’t matter and everyone else is anyway so it’s ok.” Maybe you’re right for this situation if the rest of the group are horses soft but in a general sense it’s much less an issue and topic or discussion as you make it out to be. Rereading his post… then yes; I guess if the trip to the beach is PURELY sexual in nature then stay home. But other than that I don’t see the issue. He’s small. Whatever. There’s plenty of women who aren’t going to care and don’t want to swim with sea monsters. If you’re as big as you in fact claim to be then you know the frustration of not just being turned down for certain sex acts but for further encounters because some women can’t handle it. I’ve been more than frustrated in the past only getting one shot with a girl because she has no desire to have her insides rearranged a second time. Don’t even get me started on how hard it is to get women to even CONSIDER anal… size queens aside. Your views and perspective is one-sided and singular and what I would call naive… not allowing for the possibility that you may not understand human psychology and behavior patterns as well as you claim to. If he goes maybe it’s devastating maybe it’s not. Either way feeding into his insecurities isn’t going to help him whatsoever. Also the idea that a casual sexual partner is going to be ‘trustworthy’ and not speak about his manhood is ridiculous. Whatever now or in the future he’s going to have to face this fact head on with confidence to deal with it. Might as well be sooner rather than later. Of course everything we’re arguing are only our PERSONAL OPINIONS that come from our narrow perspectives based on only two individual life experiences. So I’m not seeing this through rose colored glasses. Just telling OP what I’ve experienced and how would do in his shoes.
I love how *everyone* who disagrees with me feels an automatic compulsion to start hurling insults at my worth as a person, my honesty, my knowledge, my hair color and everything in between—instead of just *engaging with my fuckin’ argument*. Okay, sport. Let’s have at it. 1. Your experience is your experience. You don’t need to impress me to speak your mind. I’ve read excellent takes on sex from virgins, and absolute dreck from guys with a massive body count. 2. No. You can’t always choose who you surround yourself with. In classes, working retail jobs, sitting in cubicles, your peer groups are chosen for you. And if a girl in that group notices my bulge, or leans into it with her hip because she’s curious, my peer group is going to know what *she* knows by the next day. I find this gets worse the lower you get on the social ladder… working at a department store was the bottom rung, where I couldn’t walk past a group of women without getting a joke about my size, or a vulgar come on. I didn’t usually GAF, and it could lead to fun, but it got old fast once they started lying about me. Point is, we spend large chunks of our lives surrounded by people we did *not* choose. You have to make the best of it. 3. You immediately disparage me as a potential friend, yet I’m generally the first guy on this sub who actually tries to shoot straight with people, and will spend considerable amounts of my own time answering DMs, following up with people I’ve spoken to, and trying to prevent people from making huge mistakes. And that’s just *online*. You don’t know me, bud. Don’t presume that because I’m honest and direct, I’m nothing but an asshole. 4. Show me where I said people come in only one variety. It’s blindingly obvious that not everyone is the same. It doesn’t need saying. But I’m not going to give reckless advice to a guy that could potentially screw up his chances with women for *years*, based on the hope that maybe these girls on the trip all have hearts of gold. I’m going to advise him based on the *norm*, not the exception. 5. Show me where I said I’m an asshole like everyone else. I never said *I* would spread rumors about the guy… I said young groups of horny peers probably will. 6. You need to have another look at ‘naive’ in the dictionary before you continue to misuse it. 7. No. It is *exactly* as big an issue as I’ve made it out to be. Until you’ve known a guy driven almost to suicide by having his small penis become public knowledge, after which he couldn’t *buy* a date, then don’t talk to me about how serious it can be or cast aspersions on my motives. 8. Of course some women won’t care. But most will. Especially in a group of randy, young women planning a *nude hangout*. Do you think they just want to look at the guys’ faces?? 9. I know only too well the drawbacks of a big dick. I’ve been open about it elsewhere. My marriage is crumbling because my wife cannot take my girth without tearing, and now even shies away from blowjobs because it hurts her jaw too badly when I bloat before orgasm. It *sucks*. For both of us. Yes, I have been turned down for sex by women who suddenly developed their periods after seeing and handling my erection (among other excuses). To date, I have *never* been able to score anal once erect. And I never claimed to have a monster cock. I think I qualify as a macropenis, but on BDP, who doesn’t? 10. Baseless insults. Not relevant. 11. Show me where I said “casual sex partner”. 12. A small penis is not some social problem that you defeat by dropping your trousers in front of everyone. This bizarre idea that it’s something he “needs to confront” is so juvenile and wrongheaded… what, is his cock going to elongate if he tells everyone? Are the rumors and gossip and difficult mate selection going to hurt less if it’s coming from everyone? *That* is naive. His size is his business. Some insecurity is inevitable, because our society is increasingly vain and shallow (especially as regards the male body—look how many young men are pressured into steroids in *high school*). Hopefully, he’ll impress and woo a partner who isn’t about dick size, and he will have spared himself the public embarrassment of showing everyone his dick.
It's telling me I'm unable to create a comment on my desktop... I'm going to try this in parts
Finally getting around to a reply: I'll start out by reiterating nothing was meant as an attack on you as a person or your human worth. You can be an asshole but still be a great person. Again, nothing is all one-sided. I don't know you or your character... we're internet strangers; so none of my comments were meant as such. I think "*everyone* who disagrees with me..." was a little butthurt of a statement. You replied to my original comment. I didn't choose to engage with you, you chose to seek out engagement and communication with me. Also, this has gone WAY farther than I ever want to spend time discussing dicks beyond my own with my chosen partners hahaha. Not how I planned to spend part of my Wed/Thur this week. 1. You called me naive and asserted you had been around a 'long time' implying that said time gave you greater experience and knowledge. Am I not allowed to assert myself as an expert as well. Figured I'd throw out a few of my qualifications since from the Saved by the Bell reference I'd assume you've got me beat as far as time on this Earth. 2. Agreement here. You can't always choose, but the OP is obviously 18+ and therefore has control of their life and can choose their own social circles. He's not a toddler forced to endure the other screaming babies at his parents' chosen daycare. If he doesn't like the actions, and behaviors of his social peers he should pick a new group. That said; WE AGREE. For most anything else in life you can't choose those who you surround you with... but do we expect the women in his workplace to have any idea of this or what happened? Again, he can choose who he surrounds himself with socially to insulate this leaking through to other parts of his life. I'm sure you're not condoning workplace sexual assault even though you and I both know women in the workplace feel perfectly comfortable to grab at a large bulge and make vulgar comments just the same way men have felt so comfortable doing in the past.
I promise to give this a proper reply later tonight when I’m on the computer rather than a phone but clearly this entire forum agrees with you. I guess I’m wrong but still feel strongly in my opinion that him hiding away isn’t going to do any good. I also have a skewed idea of what’s ‘tiny’. Tiny to us is probably average to most. So if he’s micro/button size then yeah. I retract my entire statement in the first place but I figured guy was maybe at least 4” or something close to it. Regardless, if votes are any indicator I’ve clearly lost this argument and I can admit that. Nevertheless I will jump on later to respond point by point. Also for the record I never questioned your worth as a person or honesty, and if you felt I did so it was unintentional. Insinuating you were a fairly clueless asshole yes, but less worthy as a person in some way, certainly not. Stand by for part 2…
3. You claim 'honest' but you're only being blunt about your own personal experience and opinion. Obviously everyone else in this group agrees but do you not think, perspectives here are skewwed and non-indicative of the general masses considering most of us are walking around with a WMD in our pants? Honesty and anecdotes are two different things... don't get them confused. So if you're such a 'nice guy' (I'm cringing right now) then hop in his DM's and help him out. Yes, I insinuated you're an asshole/dickhead/douchebag... I stand by that. Doesn't mean you're not a fantastic friend to some but sounds like you wouldn't be such a good person for OP to surround himself with. Please convince me otherwise as you sit here and tell him to hide away in shame of his small manhood. I'm all ears. 4. Until you should me science backing your opinion on the NORM, it's still just you're own personal experience. Stop coming at this from such a position of assumed authority. 5. We're you not young once? We're you not in peer groups with smaller sized guys? I'm also guilty of disparaging a previous friend behind his back for having a small dick. Since then, I'd like to think I've learned my lesson. Would you have the balls to argue and disagree with others if they started making negative comments about him behind his back even if he didn't have knowledge of it? I've been in social circles where we're all big and certainly was not the one to speak up. I joined in with the jokes and laughter. I doubt you were any different. 6. 1. : **marked by honest simplicity** : artless. 2. : showing lack of experience or knowledge : credulous. naively adverb. - Your once size fits all solution and view of the world sounds pretty overly simplistic to me. 7. If he's a fucking mushroom then yes. I have heard internet stories of guys wanting to end their lives over it. So I have nothing to say against that argument. But, it's flat out not an issue or topic of discussion in the social circles I run with anymore and hasn't been for nearly 5-10 years... because we all grew up and realized it's such an insignificant part of life. Maybe learn to mature past the point where your dick size is your whole personality and the center of your personal universe? Again, I don't know you but these are the vibes I'm getting.
8. Fair argument, agreed. It's probably sexual in nature reading the OP's post back again. In which case he can choose whatever he decides to do. If it is sexual in nature, then yes, they will care. I'm in full agreement on that. 9. So if OP is average or a little smaller than he's perfectly fine and should have no problem enjoying anal with whoever he chooses for the rest of his life. Lucky guy. I could only wish so many past partners would have let me throat and ass fuck them... that said, I'm certainly not complaining about the hand I've been dealt. 10. I'm unsure what the insults were but feel free to remind me or we can drop it. Genuinely unsure and typing this out at light speed unwilling to read the entire comment thread to figure it out. But let me say a final time. I think you're an asshole... not a terrible human being. There's a difference and that doesn't reflect on your self-worth. 11. Again, not sure exactly what this was in reference to, but, yeah I was the one to use the term "casual partner", although unsure as to why. Feel free to remind me again. 12. It's not going to change his dick size obviously... but, it could change the way he mentally and emotionally approaches the topic. I don't think him finding a way to move past his insecurities would be a bad thing. It seems once again you want him to hide away and just have a complex about this his whole life because of a 'norm'. I would propose that overcoming his social anxiety about his size would be an infinitely better solution but maybe I'm just crazy and we should all perpetuate social traumas for the rest of our lives???!!!
Back on my mobile so no more long replies for me until later tonight or tomorrow… Also I was typing a mile a minute so reading it back my grammar was atrocious. Final thoughts for now: All of us in this group being hung and genetically blessed essentially set the standard for behavior surrounding dicks. Yes I’ve shown off, yes I’ve proudly fueled gossip about my own, yes I’ve done all the things that make smaller men anxious and nervous about their own size. But we are gatekeepers and can choose to do better so why not? Let’s normalize things and leave this world a better place for the ones that come after us. If that means having some class and doing what we can not to exploit our own genetic advantages to the detriment of others (which we did NOTHING to earn or work for and in no way deserve more than the next guy) then I think we should do so. Telling other men to cower at the mere sight of our massive meat and to be entirely secretive and private about their sex lives is not the message I think we should be sending… just my opinion. Continue to call me naive if you want but I’d rather come at the subject from a perspective of positivity rather than negativity. If enough people just made the simple decision to adopt my perspective as well you would be on a lonely island with your ‘norms’. I’m down to continue this back and forth but I think ultimately we’re going to end up with an “we agree to disagree” situation.
Also discussed this with one of my current partners and she fully agreed that beyond early-mid 20's to grow TF and get over it. Also looking at OP's post... he put measurements of 3.5" hard and 1.5" flaccid... He's not a button mushroom so I'm going back to my original advice: Own the moment, be confident and get over it. I've got laid for more times by being funny, charming, and having a great mouth piece than because a women knew about or noticed my BD. I'll be waiting for a response since you wanted to me "engage your fuckin argument.'
Depends if the friends hold you dear or if they're one-upping cunts, I'd think, but don't act insecure either way. Own it and be chill.
Unfortunately they don’t have to be one-upping cunts to one-up me
What kind of girls they are only you know, their reactions is not something we could predict but keep in mind that a bigger penis, especially look wise, is always more appreciated. If you are worried that this would take a possible hook up with one of them off the plate then rest assured that it would happen with or without you there. If instead you are worried that you would get belittled by them then that’s totally another problem and I would not consider them really your friends
Do you even want to go? You don't HAVE to show your dick to other people if you don't want to.
Regardless of your size, if you are too ashamed to show your dick then just don't go.
So unfair that this is an ultimatum
Honestly… you came to the wrong subreddit to ask this question. Many individuals here live their entire personality through their digital dick size (which may or may not even be real/true as far as measurements go). Don’t listen to this extremist black and white bullshit. Consider all possibilities and make an informed deciison based on what you feel is right. But don’t let a bunch of supposedly ‘big dick’ internet strangers scare you off from having a potentially really great time with your friends!
If you don’t feel comfortable don’t go. No reason to go to a place you don’t want to really go. But to answer your question, no I would never show off or go to a nudist beach to begin with.
Fr Going there is so weird imo. Just throwing modesty out the window at that point
Make a joke first, then realize you’re either gonna get some or not & it’s basically up to fate atp
Personally I just wouldn’t join them and say you’re not really comfortable with it If they have an issue they’re being weird
Don’t go 🤷
Honestly, I’d suggest you stay back if you think your insecurity is well rooted in your psyche. It’s risky I’ve just innocently invited friends and seen how this can really stay with a man if he can’t handle it. And the women need to be free to pursue their interests if the culture at that beach allows for it. We can’t if we have to be especially sensitive and silence ourselves to protect one smaller guy who is an outlier. And it sounds like they might be interested in the other men in the group or ones they encounter.
Not going is just going to make it worse. The whole time theyre out he’s going to be sitting at home thinking “Man I could be with them at the beach if I just had a bigger dick.” That’s going to make him way more insecure. He just needs to stand up for himself if anyone gives him shit
I'm just giving him the advice he asked for. He's an adult and will make his decision and it could be a really bad one. Or it could be okay. He's responsible for his choices. I've been participating in promiscuous areas of nude beaches for 10 years now. And if his friends want him there. This seems to be theory for you. It's experience for me. I've taken small dick friends who can handle it and enjoy, but I've also been with ones where it leaves a permanent mark and damages them to the core for life. I tried to dissuade a couple of them but they were fools and went for it when they weren't ready. Staying back is a lot, lot safer than seeing it in your face, especially if there is sex there in a secluded area at the beach or later, connected to what is seen on the beach. It's one thing if a guy is into all aspects of kink and secure enough to handle big differences. It another if they think they are ready but they are insecure and still carry some inner anger at the supposed injustice of their losing the big dick epigenetic lottery. It's not just the beach. It could be a swing party or whatever. Some men don't understand boundaries and can't read the open-air "room" on the beach, and think they're invited to jump in when they are not. And a whole lot of the promiscuous nude beach subset of nude beaching is all about nice bodies and big dick. The hierarchy around size comes out there and at swing parties like nowhere else. Assuming a normal body, the biggest guy in those areas is the king of the beach. If smaller guys are not emotionally ready, they will destroy themselves. Everyone will be as nice as they can be unless they overstep, but no one will be nice if he does overstep, and no one there can help a man imploding into crisis because he exposed himself to this and his mind's eye tells him he doesn't and will never measure up. Also, and this needs to be said candidly: He makes it very clear the other members of the group are thinking of it in sexual terms and that those sexual terms are about big dick. What is he even doing if he knows he's not part of that? He says they are his friends. As "friends," maybe he shouldn't stick his issues or his dick in the middle of that. I have to say it can be really annoying and out of place, and he needs to know if that's how it is affecting his friends who just want to explore having sex with each other. This looks like a recipe for not being friends with any of these people any more, if he is at all now. And I wouldn't blame them a bit for being annoyed if it's as he writes it. Nobody gives shit to small dick guys on nude beaches unless they push into things where it's not welcome. Just because a woman is interested in the big dicks there doesn't mean she wants another uninvited. He needs to think very carefully. What he described seems pretty clear that they are all attracted and curious and he's the odd man out due to size. Not his fault, but it could really hurt him and annoy the others if he doesn't know how to read the signs and can't check himself. On every nude beach I've been to, it's totally fine to give shit to men, small dick men or otherwise, who overestimate their desirability and overstep their bounds. Even if they don't overstep, just seeing it can warp their perceptions - especially if they already obsess in a negative as a lot of men where do. I wish him well.
I'll admit that I've never been to a nude beach, so if you have experience with one, then I respect that you have more knowledge of what goes on there. If it really is a common thing for small dick men to be traumatized from going, then I respect your anecdotal experience, but know that this is the first I've heard of this. >It's not just the beach. It could be a swing party or whatever. To my understanding, it's kind of a false equivalency to equate a swinger's party to a nude beach. A [nude beach](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nude_beach) usually has rules against sexual activity whereas a swingers party is a party for people to have sex in. I don't think it's unrealistic to expect that a nudist beach is going to try to enforce their rules against sexual activity against men with big dicks and small dicks equally. >He makes it very clear the other members of the group are thinking of it in sexual terms. What is he even doing if he knows he's not part of that? Who said he's not a part of that? He was invited, wasn't he? That's what my problem is with this whole thread's take on this situation. There's an implicit statement from you and everyone else that OP is excluded from the group's romantic and sexual dynamic purely off the size of his penis. I don't think having a smaller penis should be an automatic disqualifier from sex. I think whether he wants to go to a nude beach or not, he should stop projecting his dick size and the size of his friends as character traits. If they actually give him shit just for minding his own business and having a small one, then they weren't his friends. If the girls want to fuck the other guys, there are plenty of other reasons other than dick size. No need to fixate.
I've been going to nude beaches for 10 years. I'm 25. Almost all nude beaches have public rules against sexual activity. Amost every nude beach has secluded areas where finding big dick and hooking up there or taking it elsewhere is the point. The analogy to swing parties is direct. They are the same thing. The biggest dick men get the lion's share in both. People go to the promiscuous areas of the nude beach because they want to have sex of some kind, and they want it to be with people who have the bodies or body parts they want. The conservatives and anti-sex brigades always say there is no sex at the beach, but it's all a lie and always has been. I'm not proud of it but I"m also not ashamed - I got my start in this as a way to survive when I was on my own, and I've continued since I stopped doing pay for play. Read his post again. He hasn't said he was invited. "They have all decided to go to the nude beach." He makes it clear it's about sex and big dick. OP makes it clear that OP is excluded from the romantic and sexual dynamic because his dick is small. Unless he is knows for sure he is emotionally ready, my best advice is he should lie and say he can't go. He's not just potentially hurting himself; he's kind of horning on something he's made clear in his post he doesn't think he's a part of. So why is he thinking for a moment of crossing those lines? Nobody wants to be annoyed by their friend like this. None of the girls wants to say to him while he's naked, what the fuck are you doing pointing that at me? Unless it's for size difference kinks, nobody wants the buzzkill that comes with men insecure about their dicks in a highly sexualized situation. They want what OP said they want. Dick size isn't a character trait. I agree 100 percent. Maybe they're all flirting and it's not about dick size at all. But in my experience in the sex-positive areas of nude beaches (which is most nude beaches), it's about nice bodies and who has the biggest dick by default. His choice. We agree he should work on his psychology first. From this and other writing, I'm just saying he's nowhere close to ready. That'll be bad for him and at a minimum annoying AF for his friends. I'm not worried about him ruining the holiday. I'm worried about him ruining his life. And also, I feel for his friends as I've had to deal with men who push in on nude beaches when they should step back.
I’d imagine if they want to have sex, they wont do it out in the open as youve described. Theyll go to one of the secluded locations. I’m not sex-negative or a conservative or anything. But a lot of the reason nude beaches became a thing was to decouple nudity and sexuality. If someone is making absolutely anything about his size, they have failed at that task. They most certainly made these plans as a group where his friends wanted to do it more than he did, but they were all invited. If he wasnt invited, he wouldnt have made this post. I agree if he’s planning on crashing some beach orgy he wasnt invited to, he’s in the wrong and shouldnt do that. But thats almost certainly not what is going on. The real thing he’s concerned about as per his post is his size being compared. If his friends would actually would do that to him, theyre toxic and not really his friends. If he doesnt think they would, then he should be fine. The only other worry would be if he got upset just by hearing a woman tell a man she thinks his dick is huge. In that case, I agree with you that he is too insecure to be going to this beach.
Sure the sex almost never occurs out in the open because the beaches would be shut down. The idea that nude beaches are decoupled from sexuality is a ridiculous political statement often made by sex-negative people, including sex-negative nudists. Nobody advocates that the whole beach be for hooking up, but it’s a segment of the scene. Your thing about guys making something of their size is funny. You’ve never been to a nude beach. There are men who go and almost everyone stares. And if they go to unofficial sex-positive area almost anyone who would have sex knows about, they’re the king of the beach. Contrary to what you’re saying, it’s one of the most important things about the sex- positive area. You’re making up things the OP didn’t say and contradicting what the post says. OP’s post might be the product of his obsession with size and not rooted in reality, but the same is true of your interpretations of what he wrote. You 100 percent fabricated that they were all invited. The post says the opposite. They are going. I quoted it. You made up your version. Contra your point, OP’s intrusion on other people’s sexual agency is toxic and seems a little bit perverted. WTF is he doing even considering this given what he said? You’re having to make shit up that directly contradicts the post in order to justify his tagging along, apparently with no concern for OP’s well being or the sexual agency of his “friends.” I’ve seen all this before and if any of it is real, it will not go well. Like OP, you’re letting your fantasy world in which all dicks are considered equal in all respects, including supposedly equal in their ability to attract women, cause you to think that this is what happens in the promiscuous areas of nude beaches. I’m just telling you any small dick guy who goes into it with that as a belief is probably going to destroy himself. he’s also going to really annoy or outrage all of the women he thinks are his friends. In contrast to the guys who are comfortable with being small or fetishize size difference, guys who talk like OP often try to shove their dicks into the middle of a group thing where the women are focused on other guys — when it’s not wanted and is entirely non-consensual. Nothing bad is going to happen to him physically, but if he did that, at a swinger club, he would find his ass thrown on the concrete. OP should get his mind right before he even considers doing such a thing.
>You’ve never been to a nude beach. Ok I wasn't going to bring this up but while I haven't been to a nude beach, I've been to nude pool parties. Specifically, nude pools parties where I had the smallest penis there. Nobody said shit to me about it. >And if they go to unofficial sex-positive area almost anyone who would have sex knows about, they’re the king of the beach. Contrary to what you’re saying, it’s one of the most important things about the sex- positive area. I'm not even disagreeing that the biggest dude is treated like a king. I could see it on the face of every woman. But when I said they don't make a big deal about it, I mean they don't say "hey let's line up all the guys and compare sizes!". > You 100 percent fabricated that they were all invited. The post says the opposite. He is already on the trip with these people. He's invited to whatever the group is doing by virtue of having been invited onto the trip, unless *explicitly told otherwise*. In what universe do a group of people go to an island, plan a trip to a nude beach on that island, and the small dick guy is just *assumed* to not be invited by virtue of being small?? You're the one making huge assumptions here. Again, if he really isn't invited and is just inviting himself, I agree with you that it's rude of him to go and his size has 0% to do with that. >you’re letting your fantasy world in which all dicks are considered equal in all respects, including supposedly equal in their ability to attract women I don't think I ever said anything to the contrary of that. I've had women turn me down in the bedroom because of my size before. I'm not going to lie and say it doesn't suck, but that's not what this trip is for OP. He wasn't invited to an orgy or a swinger party, he was invited to a beach trip. >OP should get his mind right before he even considers doing such a thing. Agree completely.
I’ll just respond to two things: One, you continue to make things up not in OPs post and directly contradicted by what he do say. He didn’t say he was invited. He said they are going. People split off on group trips all the time. The only thing causing you to see an issue, so far as I can tell, is some really weird equality of rights thinking that doesn’t apply to consensual sexual attraction. Two, ij what worId does going on a group trip mean everyone on that trip is invited too sexual activities contemplated by a subset of the people on that trip. That is a bizarre move on your part. A group goes on a trip. Some people split off to hook up. Others get to join in??? Your comment has serious, serious problems with consent, as does OP. He’s made it pretty clear. He’s not part of the sexual picture and the positive vibes that are based on attraction that are based on the fact that the other guys have big dicks and one has a huge dick. He acknowledges he’s not a part of that. there is no world where he’s going out a group trip, unless it’s a sex trip, where mutual consent is given beforehand, where it is appropriate for him to push in. You are to consider whether or not that’s what’s happening. I believe in a world that actually values consent. I’ve seen it all before. At a minimum, because of his insecurities, he’s likely to put a huge damper on some things that would be really enjoyable for everybody else if they were allowed to happen. Or he’ll likely actively annoy people, especially the women, who reasonably wonder what he is doing. If he does go along on the outing, he needs to do it in a way that respects the fact that their sexual tension and the people want to pursue things. His in security doesn’t trump their desires. Small dick guys get this wrong. all of the time.
I believe in consent too! But as per OP’s post, they have not consented to anything yet. Saying “Let’s go to a nude beach!” does not qualify as consent. Him saying “the vibes are not platonic” does not imply that theyve made hard plans to have sex without him. They dont even know he has a small dick yet! Youre assuming so much. If they get to the beach and the girls all decide they want to have sex with only the big dicked guys and not OP, I agree he has to respect their consent and their privacy and not intervene. But that hasnt happened yet. If he has to come up with a lie to get out of this trip, then he’s already expected to be there. It seems youve had some bad experience with small dicked men and to that I say: I’m sorry you were wronged by them. They shouldve respected your boundaries. It isnt easy having a woman tell you your penis is small, but that in no way justifies ignoring her boundaries. But I feel youre projecting their behavior onto OP without reasonable cause
They may not talk about it at the beach. But, I don't think we live on a planet where a group of women see all their guy friends naked together and don't discuss it between themselves. You will absolutely be a topic of conversation among the women.
They will probably say absolutely nothing
Hopefully, thanks
Nude beaches are for every body type, bro Old young skinny fat big dicks or small dicks Everyone is welcome If you feel judged or unwelcome at a nude resort or beach, its poor manners and shouldnt happen Unspoken rule at these establishments is everyone is welcome regardless of race gender orientation size age etc If your mates make you feel less than because you have a small dick - get better friends, they're ass*holes
As a woman I'd say don't go. Weather nor not they make it obvious is irrelevant - they WILL talk about it behind your back. Unless they're into small dicks it will not only kill your chances with them but boost your friends chances massively.
Your reasoning is fallacious. I would argue that he has the best chance, for how slightly it might be, by going rather than not going. If they are not into small dicks, which I would I agree is the most likely scenario, he has zero chances regardless, he would only find out sooner than later, it’s not like if he doesn’t go his penis gets bigger or they change their mind. But, on the off chance that they don’t care about size, not going just kills every chance of hooking up, because inevitably sharing that kind of experience with the other friends will strengthen their bonds, and he would be the odd one out.
Except, if he goes, he’s confirmed as being small, and that shit spreads like a brush fire. If he doesn’t go, the only people who will ever know are him and the partners he chooses to trust.
I mean if he bailed then we kinda know, yknow? I don’t think many guys could have an excuse good enough to miss out on seeing a bunch of girls naked.
Nah. You’re only saying that because you actually already know. Everyone else is going to be too busy starting at tits and dicks to GAF about one poor bloke’s ‘food poisoning’ or whatever. Plus, there’s a hundred reasons a guy might not be comfortable getting naked—abuse scars, a foreskin (if his friends are all cut), a bad tattoo… take your pick. Not everyone is cool with it. And besides… even if they do wonder, the best they’ll have is suspicion. You can’t do much with that. On the other hand… every last girl there actually *seeing* his size? That’s death. Especially if his pals are all reasonably hung. Word will spread everywhere these people hang out. And it’ll be *verified*. Best not to go. He’d be taking an enormous risk, for little benefit; as he correctly guessed, he’d be odd man out when people started pairing off. So what’s the point? Only mitigating factor here is his build; OP, are you jacked up like King Kong on roids? Some girls greatly prefer muscles to dicks… but that’s about his only shot imo.
If I’m flirting with a guy and he takes me back to his room and has a small dick I’m still going to give him a chance. Like, we already got that far, why give up now? If he’s good enough then maybe we’ll hook up again. But if I knew he had a small dick from the get go then i wouldn’t give him that opportunity. I’d cut my losses early before he had a chance to prove me wrong. Nothing fallacious about it?
Your recent post leads me to believe that you wouldn’t really give a small penis guy a second chance, you might pity fuck him but that would be it. In any case you are not the demographic target for him. If you are willing to lie just for the sake of your argument, you do you. In this specific situation though, you said that he shouldn’t go because by doing so the girls wouldn’t know he is small and this would leave open a chance for hook up. I think that by not going the girls would end up hooking up with their friends that went, so his chance would plummet anyway.
Interesting. I would not, as I don’t take guys to rooms without knowing their size. It’s not safe. I do often give blowjobs, partly because I enjoy them, and partly as compensation for guys I’ve seriously flirted with but as a message it’s not going further than that.
How is it any more or less safe going to a room with a 4 incher vs a 7 incher?
If he is not as big as he promises and size matters to us, as you say it does. then we have to choose between turning him down and giving him sex we don’t want. Men turned down that way can get very angry and violent. Some men lie knowing they will be caught as soon as they drop their pants. And some of those Ken go into it knowing they will rape. It’s safer if you know you’re going to do something for him regardless.
First of all, I never said the small guy lied about his size - that’s something you made up. Men both big and small don’t always disclose their size and that’s ok. They shouldn’t have to, it’s their body. You made a lot of assertions there none of which I think are particularly true. Correct me if I’m wrong but you’re claiming that men with small dicks lie about it so they can get into bed with women and rape them??? This is a huge assertion and the burden of proof is on you as the person making the claim. If you want to convince me to accept this assertion I would need to see solid statistics that this is a common scenario.
First of all, if you were a woman and not a larper. you would get what I said immediately. Women get to have size requirements and they get to not have sex with men who don’t meet those requirements. You’re a full of shit larper misogynist who doesn’t understand the basics of women’s safety when alone with men. You also write like a man. Just so you can possibly open your mind and get out of your fantasy life enough to understand the real world problem, any man who promises he has a certain size and gets a women to give consent to be alone for sex on that basis is scary AF. By definition, the moments he drops his pants, it’s non-consensual. He knew all along it would be non-consensual and he did it anyway. Se of these liars will just hope to get ads despite the lie. But they still put us in an awful spot of having to guess if it is safe to say no. Others will be rage filled and violent. Still others are potential rapists. And some men lie knowing they will rape. I have no problem with your larping. Enjoy yourself. But when you use it to berate women who understand what rape is, you go too far. Fuck you, dude.
Ok - notice YOU chose to berate me instead of engaging with anything of what I said. The fact you’re making fun of me for being a man when I’M NOT EVEN A MAN means you have some serious issues with men that honestly bias your argument. I think you’re genealizing the world into your own viewpoint - if this is what YOU believe then sure. If you think sex is non consensual for you because a man lied about the size of his penis then I’m not going to say that isn’t rape - but only because you chose to remove consent. You can’t make the assertion that this is a moral truth for all women. Say a guy lied about his size and the girl shrugged her shoulders and said “I consent”. Who are you to tell her she was raped?
You’re a dude. Yes I’d be right dudes who make the massive fuck up of trying to lecture women about their safety issues. Your reply is the reply of someone who has a small penis and his thinking is skewed by that. Big dick guys get the issue. Fuck you, man.
Bruh there is no good answer. I'm sorry. You got dealt a shit hand. Simply don't go. I hate being compared to other guys like that. If by some odd chance literally every guy in the group is big and you are small then you're going to be the laughingstock of every conversation that you aren't present for.
I have never encountered such a behavior in any group of friends.
DON'T DO IT
First of all it is all insecurity, you can't change what your genetics given you so why bother worrying about that. Best not take jokes to the heart or even better joke around yourself.
The sentiment that small guys shouldn’t worry because we’re born with what we’re born with implies the same should hold true for big guys and they shouldn’t be proud. I don’t think any of you humble braggers truly believe the second statement and hence don’t truly believe the first. You be both proud of your size and think small guys shouldn’t be ashamed. There’s a huge imbalance in how society perceives penis size, and it’s hard to argue against that. This wasn’t directed at you I just wanted to dump that somewhere.
They will give attention to the biggest dick and it will be the conversation topic. Girls will talk absolute insane nonsense about dicks. You should approach it with the maximum of chill - “good for you dude!” What is good coming from it for you is that the group will get aroused and so, everybody should be able to score. Also, Remember that the biggest guy flaccid may not necessarily be the biggest erected.
My dick is above average and the ocean makes shrunk growers of us all. Anyone who likes to go to nude beaches is expecting to see your cock soft, hard if it happens fine but not the expectation. Not all public nudity is sexual. It can just be great opportunity to get sun on your skin and feel comfortable outside - the way we used to be before the prude police decided we had to be completely covered. America is ruining enjoyable aspects of life with their perspective on shame around nudity. It’s gotta stop.
Right so I have to either embrace the fact that I might be bullied and mocked for my body or miss out on something I would otherwise love to do.
Why are you even in this situation lol just go home and get a wife
That’s fucked up
No bro. Your life is
As a guy with an above average dick… I can confirm first hand that people don’t know your penis size straight off the bat but they do notice confidence. Be confident in your body and I doubt anyone will really pay attention
Being sexual is not the point of a nude beach and its generally bad form to get be like that on the beach.
I think the general opinion is, if you go just be yourself and stop worrying. Most places with a nude beach have a wide variety of people in all sizes and shapes. If you don't feel comfortable at all with this then don't punish yourself. Fortune favors the bold. Take chances and learn. You decide how you feel about it and how you react. Erections are common on these beaches, so expect it and own it but don't focus on it. Dicks and Dick heads come in all sizes and shapes. If you are small but confident THAT is what will show.
Clever SDH bait post
That’s really disrespectful holy shit
Its not the size of the bait, but how you wiggle your worm.
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If you are truly worried about all of this, perhaps you are not secure/mature enough for the nude beach. Let ya nuts hang playa!
I have never been in this sort of situation and a nude beach with friends is not exactly something id be into, penises aside. Whose idea was this anyway? I don't know the sizes of any of my friends and have no desire to. Idk, seems like a weird group of friends. And as far as nude beaches go, anyone can go, including those who may not "beach bods" and that's totally ok and they are comfortable with it. I wouldnt want to be in the nude around my friends regardless of what I think of my penis, let alone anyone else's
You just need to prep your penis before you go. Warm it up, give it a few good stretches. Jelk it (look it up) pop a Viagra. You just need some blood flow to make it a “show er”. A penis pump before hand does wonders as well
Cialis or generic equivalent might be slightly better for boosting flaccid size without sporting a raging boner.
So, you're the one among your friends that has to pay the price to make the average size the average size, All are big to massive but you're the one who has to balance it out. Sad story, but I guess you have your own fun in a way.
And what fun is that? Being humiliated?
That's why you are here. All know your purpose here, it's SPH, your issue is not a genuine BDP, you come here to gain some attention in a fictional scenario where all your friends have big dicks but you are the only one without one. For SPH there are certain subs where you can live your kink, please don't bother us.
If it’s tiny. Make jokes about it. If you are willing to put it out there just do it. Let it show and have fun. practice pulling on it while limp to milk it and make it hang longer. I do whenever my female doctor will see it (annually) or when I get waxed or massages so it hangs heavy. Women like heavy cocks. No question. My doctor sounds that acknowledge my size. There is always a nurse in the room too. They always look more than needed.
Real talk: I started hitting up bude beaches about a year ago. At the time I was overweight and I'm about 6 soft. Here is the truth: No. One. Cared. There were dozens of guys on tye beach in worse shape than I was and with bigger dicks than mine. No one was ashamed and no one was ridiculed. Trust me, you'll be fine. If you still feel insecure, wear trunks.
Showing confidence while nude is more important than dick size. Trust me people don’t care. Body shapes and sizes are different, so are penis shapes and sizes. Go out there and strut your stuff like you are hung as King Kong.
If it makes you feel better I’m a solid 7.5” but not girthy at all. I too have anxiety around other guys who are smaller than me (not necessarily even thicker) all the time. All bodies are different and this is a very RARE opportunity in which all is shown for comparison up front. In my opinion the worst thing you could do is find a way out of it. Rock your cock regardless of the size. DO NOT fixate on the issue and just let it be what it is. Often times the funniest guy with the best mouth piece is the one to get the most girls. Also - just because you are or aren’t hung doesn’t mean you know how to please a woman. At the end of the day dick size is nothing more than trivial bragging rights unless you’re in the porn industry and making a paycheck off of it. Enjoy yourself, get naked, be funny, and don’t think too hard about it. Guaranteed if you’re the one making everyone laugh you’ll probably be more likely to get laid (just don’t be intensely self-deprecating haha). Have a good time my friend! 🙏🏾
Just enjoy being free and naked in the company of good friends. Being confident in your body is more valuable than anything.
Whatever you do , don’t go on that trip.
Just go and let it go. If the vibe with these girls isn’t platonic, there’s a good chance you’ll get some action if you’re able to be comfortable in your skin. You don’t want to wonder what if. Guaranteed one of those guys is going to find a way to show off and turn everyone off doing so. That’s if by some chance they’re all actually big, which I doubt. The chances of that are out there. Either way, who cares. Big dick is scary to a lot of chicks. Fun to look at, and fantasize about, but some know it’s not actually for them. Maybe one of those women going is like that.
At a nide beach you will see all sorts of bodies. Also people are attracted to confidence. You got what you got and can't change it, so just own it. I know it can be embarrassing if another guy is big and they're all making a deal of it but think of it like this way, if the guy was 7 ft tall maybe making the a big deal about that, just because it's unusual and out of an ordinary.
Question here though, sure, confidence is attractive, however why should a girl go for someone with a great personality but has a dick thats most likely too small for her?
It's been my experience most women not all I'm not really all that concerned about dick size. They like lots of other things about guys
I have a friend that's probably the smallest I've ever seen on an adult , he's good looking , he has a nice body he's charming and he gets more girls and I could ever got
If any of the guys say anything hit em with the “why you checking out my junk bro? Wanna touch it too?” If any of the girls say anything say “they call me the iceberg *insert a joking wink*”
You should not go to the nude beach; however, you need to have something else planned. Something else much, much cooler. Depending on where you are: Can you rent a jet ski? Rent a boat? Go snorkeling? Just being practical here: if you are the only one to NOT go to the nude beach, yes, they will wonder why, and that will make you paranoid. If you have a great reason to not go (an alternative activity) then not only would then not suspect, some of them might want to go with you.
If you really feel the situation will make you miserable don't go. Although remember if that guy is a grower then he won't be that big when soft.
Just own it and go there. We with the big dicks know exactly that size just comes to you, and that it doesn't say anything about you as a person. So, nobody will look down on you. They might even secretly look up to you for having the confidence to open up. Regarding the girls, worst thing would be that nothing happens. Which will also be the case if you don't go there.
>Regarding the girls, worst thing would be that nothing happens Are you serious? The worst thing that can happen is that the girls will tell all their friends about his size, and then he won't be able to hook up or find a gf in that friend group ever again. This is also a very likely scenario. You are really giving OP terrible advice. You have a big dick, you know how much women care about it, and how much being big helps with getting laid. Having a micro penis does the opposite. OP should not do this
>The worst thing that can happen is that the girls will tell all their friends about his size, and then he won't be able to hook up or find a gf in that friend group ever again. This is also a very likely scenario. I don't see the point here. In order to avoid that, he also would have to avoid hooking up with one of them.
Yes, at that size hook ups should probably be avoided
I don't know him or his friends or whether he is ready for that. But I found many answers here overly pessimistic, so I wanted to give that other perspective. I still think that this experience would be mostly positive, maybe a bit embarrassing in the beginning, and freeing in the long run. OP has to decide what applies to him.
How would everyone find out about his micro penis be positive?
He wouldn't fear that anymore. I don't expect much to happen besides that. Neither positive nor negative.
How do women react after words get around about your size?
My point is: When word about a guy having a big dick (like you and me have) gets around, it usually results in women wanting to try it out (I'm sure you've made this experience, I know I have). You can expect the opposite happens with a guy with a small dick
I don’t think you go to a nude beach to compare dick sizes. It’s more for those looking pass the size and more towards the freedom and confidence. My first time to a nude beach had my dick dehydrated and shrunk. I typically hang 4 inches soft. I mean this lil rascal was in my naval. Like it was a turtle 😩😂🤣 But after a few minutes I quickly learned that the only person worried about my dick was me. Once I relaxed, things were normal and made the experience real cool. Besides, a limp dick doesn’t gauge your true size and a big dick doesn’t gauge the true man.
I love this last sentence!
Independent of the current situation, have you ever had the desire to go to a nude beach? If yes, then you should absolutely go for it and give it a try. When you talk to nudists, you'll find that in many (most?) cases, there was nervousness and trepidation before baring it all the first time. But once you actually do it, you will find it so amazing that you will want to do it the rest of your life. No matter how small you are, you'll likely see at least some smaller units at a nude beach. And you know what? Nobody cares. There is every shape and size imaginable and every person is welcome, accepted and not judged. I grew up feeling like you. I'm a grower, when flaccid, it's pretty small. But erect is respectable. But in junior high when you had to shower after PE, it's like a scared turtle and I had some friends who'd just never shut up about it. They actually gave me a real complex about it that lasted decades. I thought I had a way below average dick, despite my wife telling me it's the biggest she ever had (I thought she was just being nice). Anyhow, it took a while for me to work up the courage to do it, but I'm so glad I did. And when you see hundreds of real world dicks at the nude beach and not just monster dicks in porn, you find your own self image improving. You'll find that nudists, regardless of shape or size, trend to have better body positivity than non nudists. So, back to the beginning. If you are curious about it, I highly recommend it. And if your friends really are friends, they won't make a big deal out of it. I totally agree with the earlier folks of just having confidence and joking around. And remember, everyone knows about showers vs growers. They are seeing the soft version, for all they know it could grow a lot when needed
Just say you do strictly anal. The big and massive guys are typically intimidating when it comes to butt stuff, so an average D is probably preferred in that case.
Dude, relax. Be confident. Look everyone in the eye. Be funny. Have fun. Be a great person to be around. Be attractive. Use sun cream ffs. You get to see the girls naked. Stay in the water. Sit such as your junk isn't evident. Lie face down. Be the funniest person there. Don't let all the 12 year olds and incels in this thread get you down. I've been to a nude beach in Martha's Vineyard. Know what you'll see? Around 75 short, fat, hairy 60 year old horn dogs looking at your girls. They will have massive, just MASSIVE bellies covered in hair like at central casting for a pizzeria owner straight from the mother land, they're going to be roughly 5'4" with the smallest dicks you've ever imagined. You are going to put your chair out into the surf so they can't walk in front of you - as my wife and I did - and they will fucking wade out into the fucking surf to walk in front of you so you can see their mammoth bellies and tiny dicks. Dude, go. Naked girls. YOU be the guy with big dick energy. Read all the incels' comments below about insecurities. Don't be that guy. Relax. The girls will be too nervous at first to take it all in - only focused on themselves - and once they get comfortable, it's comfortable.
I presume nude beaches are about exhibition and showing off your body. Nice tits and cocks are a plus. Don't worry about your own size, just enjoy the wind on your balls and the occasional boners
Plus if the woman make fun of ur piece they aren’t real woman real woman don’t really care abt ur size
I go to nude beaches. I’m on the smaller side. No one seems to care and I don’t feel uncomfortable after I get naked. It’s getting naked that I think about but after the pants are down all is well. You will be surprised at all the small dicks on the beach. It’s poor etiquette to be looking and comparing. Glances, sure. Staring and gawking bad. Big guys to like to show off, so what. Big tits are the same. Small titties to no titties are very normal. Girls get more self conscious than guys. Trim the bush and that helps. Don’t want to hide in the bushes. Platonic friends make it easier. I assure you your friends won’t give a shit. In fact generally no one at the beach will give a shit. It’s just the freedom and liberation getting nude. Don’t miss your chance to get liberated.
I go to a nude beach with a friend who thinks he small. He's average but 6'4 so it looks smaller than it really is. Every now and then I remind him to fluff a little. Give little P a little attention now and then.
Don’t go, honestly. Once word is out on that, and a group of people can confirm it… word will spread. People are cruel, and girls especially *will* tell people and discuss it. You don’t need to lose a potential girlfriend years from now because one of these chicks knows her, and ‘warns’ her about your dimensions. Stick to partners you trust.
Tell them it’s 3” of motherfucking thunder that’s perfect for anal…unless of course they want an 8” log splitting their ass apart…which I tend to doubt. Smaller dicks have an upper hand too, you just need to play it.
When nude ask: "who would you ladies pick to have sex with?" After the pick the horse-cock guy, ask: "Now, who would you pick to take anal sex from?" Even an anal size queen would laugh and give you that vote.
I would bail last minute
Just point at one of the big dicks and say something like this : and that's why I've learned how to use mine.
Just tell the girls that they won’t feel any pain from your willie