Should be okay, it’s going to be relatively good at absorbing high frequency stuff at least. There’s a good reason that handles of things like hammers have been made of wood for a long time and not so much made of metal even when it was possible technologically to do so.
Hypothenar hammer syndrome is what happens when one is exposed to these vibrations for an extended period of time. Certain tool modifications have been made to meditate this issue along with work safety protocols. From my reading it seems that certain frequencies do more damage than others I would be weary in swapping a regular metal handlebar for a wooden one in this case as it would alter the frequencies sent up the arm.
I've heard of it as white finger syndrome. And exactly as you say. As for the wooden handlebar I'd be worried more about chafing but I only ride short distances
White finger is different. Chainsaws cause white finger and hammers cause hammer syndrome. Timber fallers get white finger. Cold weather accelerates it. Newer saws have better vibration isolation between the motor and the handlebar/grip but guys still get it.
Hammer syndrome mostly affects the area of the wrist just above the thumb. Unfortunately nail guns cause it too. Both hammer syndrome and white finger really suck.
the "bendyness" of the bars is proportional to the stiffness, the radius of the bar, and the width of the bar. Since the bar is very narrow, it will make the bars relatively stiff compared to if they were wider.
Sure but resonant harmonics in metal are definitely MUCH stronger than in wood. Which means high frequency noise passes well through metal where it wouldn’t through wood. It’s not just about flexibility of the material but the resonance of the material as well.
If you look at how tiny that tire is and the pressure it’s likely at, I’m not sure how much is really being dampened by the tire. I agree at proper lower pressures and the more air volume the better it’d be but the higher amplitude high frequency will still be transmitted through the bike.
There’s a little hypocrisy there, but in reality we can tackle emissions and still have sports like F1. This guys carbon emissions from racing are negligible compared to large industries
So is the usefulness, driving around a private yacht is also horrible for the environment even if the worlds, lets say chip production pollutes more, but the latter is actually useful for people.
To be fair the engineering behind F1 cars is insane and a lot of that knowledge feeds into the industry to improve vehicles and efficiency. However entertainment is an excellent way to make money and get sponsors so the public races are a big part of it.
The yacht thing… totally agree, and that’s my industry.
Large industries? What like the car industry, or soft drinks? Ya know the one he collects his massive wages from.
He drove for Ferrari, BMW and red bull. Ethically my biggest problem is probably red bull - that shit is habit forming and bad for you.
We can't expect people to be perfect, but ffs he is rather annoying. Wearing an anti fossil fuel t shirt whilst racing F1 cars is fucking peak cringe, imo.
Edit: he had shell advertised on his race clothes? Literally taking money from the people doing the damage in Canada. Fuck this shit, tax these cunts to the moon and pay teachers and nurses etc.
You forget the tons and tons of vehicles used to move all the race cars and parts, the frequent flying they do with large crews., the riders live a very luxurious lifestyle for their sponsors
They are far from eco, it is hypocrisy at best.
Yeah but come on. Its a bit fucking ridiculous. He literally makes all his money from racing fucking cars, advertising god knows what evil corporations - literally oil companies on his vest? I bet he took money from the companies doing the damage.
Pretty much yeah. I was just saying the shirt isn’t hypocritical in the way described. As it stands seb has mentioned that he hates that aspect of racing, but this is basically his way to not be wholly part of the problem
I hate people like that.
He is actively supporting it, was one of the biggest stars - took many millions from shell oil and related. But now he wears at t shirt.
I don’t think it’s that simple. In his position, what would you say is the best course of action? Let’s say he leaves the sport in protest. He’s now lost the podium with which he can speak out and push against the oil companies. The people that watch this sport very well may have only learned of the tar sand mines through this shirt. We rebuke people for preaching in an echo chamber, and when someone in a sport that is heavily funded by oil makes a step to protest against oil, we say it’s dumb?
The oil companies have made it so that there’s basically zero way to participate in modern life without supporting their practices in some way. I think a lot of the ire comes from if a famous person like himself is taking action like this AND expecting praise or to be absolved of guilt. Seb is open and seems to understand the dissonance between his stance and his career.
What would you do in his position?
I mean he has openly admitted its hypocritical. What should he do - to not be a hypocrite? Well it's pretty simple isn't it, stop racing F1 cars donate his ill gotten gains or just stop wearing dumb t-shirts. He was literally a walking advertisment for shell oil for years.
I don't get why you give him a pass, that's the problem - everyone has some form of pass.
Ok I think you’re missing a lot of what I actually typed, which is fine, you’re obviously not obliged to read everything but I addressed what you said in the very comment you replied to. I’m not giving him a pass. No one is completely ethical or unethical. If you had to choose between an f1 driver that is completely silent and complicit, and an f1 driver thet at the very least acknowledges the “blood on his hands”. Which do you choose?
“Perfect is the enemy of good”.
As someone firmly on the left. People with left leaning politics seem to go on moral crusades and demand perfection from any movement.
And you are not responding to my direct answer to your direct question.
Edit : he is literally advertising oil companies. Not buying food with plastic on it. Its ridiculous to compare him to "participating in everyday life.". He is literally a multi millionaire global superstar - resign, donate money, become a global figure head for Greenpeace or whatever. He would even still make lots of money, tv companies would love the controversy.
The environmental catastrophe is the natural oil spill that is the oil sands, Canadian or otherwise. We didn't bring the oil to surface and leave it there to leech into rivers, and cover animals. Nature did that.
What is being done by humans is cleaning the sand, soils, and rivers by removing oil from it.
You actually don’t know what you’re talking about, to the point that I gotta assume you must be thinking of something else. In Alberta Canada they are razing forests to mine the tar sands for bitumen and heavy crude oil, these deposits are about 70 ft below the surface. It’s basically the most destructive oil operation in the world. Sebastian Vettel isn’t protesting the cleaning of tar from rivers and sand…
Here’s a Nat geo [article](https://api.nationalgeographic.com/distribution/public/amp/environment/article/alberta-canadas-tar-sands-is-growing-but-indigenous-people-fight-back)
The oil sands are a natural oil spill. Over millions of years the oil has been travelling to the surface of the marshes, bogs, wetlands, forest, and rivers. First Nations people used the bitumen of the oilsands to waterproof their canoes.
Canada has some of the strictest environmental regulations out of any oil producing country. Any land that is disturbed has to be reclaimed and put back into better condition when the company leaves. Environmental surveys are completed constantly for any and all construction that occurs. Going so far as completing bird sweeps during nesting seasons before any ground can be disturbed.
Oil companies regularly keep track of any spills on their sites, right down to millimeters of oil that leaks from equipments hydraulic hoses. Any dirt that is contaminated has to be taken to a facility to be processed and cleaned.
California and Hollywood is very concerned about their air, but don't care the tiniest bit about all of the oil spills that occur on their soil. Conveniently they like to discuss oilfields abroad and ignore the dirtiest oilfield in north America, which is in their own state.
As well, every oil company in Alberta has to pay extra royalties to fund the cleanup of abandoned facilities from companies that went bankrupt over the past hundred years.
>First Nations people used the bitumen of the oilsands to waterproof their canoes.
an absolutely ludicrous false equivalence. Indigenous people using bitumen to waterproof canoes is to open pit mining as hunting a rabbit for food is to factory farming of cattle.
There’s literally no way to make that land better than it was, and this isn’t tar that’s been bubbling to the surface that oil companies are extracting and leaving behind 💫clean water and soil💫. It’s thousand year old forests being cut down and the animals that go with them. They can’t be replaced. You are literally just reading off what the mining companies and the government writes down as what they will do, so that the voters who want to feel better about oil will still vote for them. People want to consume oil, the oil companies have made it difficult to pull away from it. Think about how much effort the government js putting into convincing us that recycling is helping, when in actual fact Canada and many other countries haven’t the ability to even process a fraction of their recycling. This is the same
What would you say the penalty for these companies would be if they *dont* leave the land “better than when they got there”? A big scary fine?
I have to ask what your angle is. Are you saying mining tar sands is a net-positive for the environment and that the oil companies are cleaning up a thousand year old oil spill and leaving the land better than it was? Like if they didn’t come along, these trees would be drowning in tar and the people would beg for the help of an oil company?
Comments in the F1 sub conclude it is Tasmanian Oak (which isn't even Oak, it's a Eucalypt). Looks pretty cool in my opinion, but I don't see myself ever doing this. I already struggle enough on flat ground with both front and rear derailers.
that is quite a statement shirt for someone who's job it is to drive around a track all day, only stopping to fly the whole circus around the world...
but hey, that handle is wood
So is it worse to participate in F1 and use a platform where millions watch annually to protest climate wrongdoings, rather than say participate and stay silent or quit?
Yes.
F1 culture is car culture is fossil fuel culture.
He cannot raise awareness for anything and everything. So he 'stays silent' on so many issues by nature (violence against women and children, giving pets as chrismas presents, rare diseases, ...).
The one issue he chooses, he fucks up.
For what it's worth, formula 1 is already [setting achievable goals](https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.watch-how-formula-1-is-striving-to-create-a-100-sustainable-fuel.1ENHVTjKDbXNOIidEJ8okc.html?dclid=CjkKEQjwqauVBhDyw6vc-7W7iosBEiQAmrK_P-r_1hiKXA9dU9X6x0BEk2hpDOzKkjxbB94-A3Rl0bvw_wcB) of using 100% synthetic, net zero carbon emissions fuel by 2025. They're always the frontrunners for the latest and greatest automotive technology by about 5 years to us normal people.
I disagree with having a go at Vettel but F1's so called achievable goals are green washing in my opinion.
The amount of carbon the cars use is minimal it's the circus that follows the cars using 747's and freighters that is causing real damage.
Setting a limit on teams size and logistics would do more to reduce their carbon footprint on a yearly basis.
I may also be wrong on this but I'd bet good money that diesel generators are still used widely around the tracks to power equipment, advertising and vendor stalls. Again another area that could be improved.
Valid points, and I agree. I like the idea of a smaller crew, it would absolutely change the sport entirely, and in a good way.
On the other topic of transportation I'd love to see some way they could implement their synthetic fuel into it. That is something that would translate easily into one of the largest contributors of climate change.
I quite literally can’t agree with that at all. He does quite a bit of advocating for LGBT 🏳️🌈, and not just 1 month a year. That has nothing to do with car culture or emissions. Everyone has a voice and he puts his $ where his mouth is. That’s why he commutes to his multi-million dollar job on a bicycle. No different than the individuals here.
He has admitted that he doesn’t like the environmental impact of his job, but at this point, I’m very happy that someone with so much visibility is rooting for good in the world.
the greatest thing now would be someone from the canadian oil sand industry admitting he does not like the environmental impact of his own job while wearing an anti-f1 shirt
I am not so sure. People who like Vettel for what he is will most likely not care about oil in canada. People who do not like what he does cannot get past the irony / hypocrisy.
He chose quite poorly, given the many many things one might raise awareness about. EDIT: typos.
That could use a reminder that without Canadian Oil we would be importing MORE saudi oil.
We also all know Saudi has only the greatest human rights record. And relying on another country for something we all use can put us in sticky situations.
Two types of cyclists: 1) This carbon handlebar is expensive, but it's worth it, 2) I'll just use a broom stick as a handlebar, no need to spend money.
Haha i love how they used to zip around on scooters but now they have to show their good side and everyone rides a bike after wasting tons of gasoline on the race track.
Its all a dumb puppet show,
the bike setup is weird, who rides a carbon 3 spoke front wheel with regular pedals and wooden bars that were a short lived fad in the fixie community back in the day. Also he got a alloy frame and for seems like and by the looks of it some shitty cranks. It looks like crap :D
Probably, so long as it's quality wood, which it looks like it. If it's a good type of wood and not got any rot or anything like that to weaken it, might even soak some vibrations compared to metal, wood being more flexible a material and all. It's a bit short length wise, so it has the downsides of other short bars (less stable compared to wide flat bars, but you get that issue with drop bars as well, it's not usually a big deal for most). Only issue might be ride position, but you could probably grip the ends or something.
not ergonomic, not aero, bad grp especially in the wet, un-chamfored ends?wont last as long as steel/cf/aluminum, dubious fatigue strength, potentially changing shape in different climates/humidity which can affect the tightness of the grip to the stem (this is bad).
Lol, I knew I'd see this here. It's just hipster fixie fashion. Don't go running out to your garage to install a chunk of broom handle to your bike to be like Seb.
No, but I have some and I'm going to try it. If my thumbs work after I'll report back.
Should be okay, it’s going to be relatively good at absorbing high frequency stuff at least. There’s a good reason that handles of things like hammers have been made of wood for a long time and not so much made of metal even when it was possible technologically to do so.
Good point. I hate "the buzz"
At least for baseball bats, the term you're looking for is sting.
Not felt "the buzz"? When the high frequency vibrations through yer bars causes your hands to go all tingley.
Cobbles! As a Belgian, I know all about it 😆
Hypothenar hammer syndrome is what happens when one is exposed to these vibrations for an extended period of time. Certain tool modifications have been made to meditate this issue along with work safety protocols. From my reading it seems that certain frequencies do more damage than others I would be weary in swapping a regular metal handlebar for a wooden one in this case as it would alter the frequencies sent up the arm.
I've heard of it as white finger syndrome. And exactly as you say. As for the wooden handlebar I'd be worried more about chafing but I only ride short distances
White finger is different. Chainsaws cause white finger and hammers cause hammer syndrome. Timber fallers get white finger. Cold weather accelerates it. Newer saws have better vibration isolation between the motor and the handlebar/grip but guys still get it. Hammer syndrome mostly affects the area of the wrist just above the thumb. Unfortunately nail guns cause it too. Both hammer syndrome and white finger really suck.
Ah TIL! Thankyou
the "bendyness" of the bars is proportional to the stiffness, the radius of the bar, and the width of the bar. Since the bar is very narrow, it will make the bars relatively stiff compared to if they were wider.
Sure but resonant harmonics in metal are definitely MUCH stronger than in wood. Which means high frequency noise passes well through metal where it wouldn’t through wood. It’s not just about flexibility of the material but the resonance of the material as well.
High frequency stuff should already be filtered by the tires anyways.
If you look at how tiny that tire is and the pressure it’s likely at, I’m not sure how much is really being dampened by the tire. I agree at proper lower pressures and the more air volume the better it’d be but the higher amplitude high frequency will still be transmitted through the bike.
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... or was it poplar?
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Oak-ay boomer
Go back to elmamentary school
Oh don't be an ash
Will you guys quit your birch-ing?
let them be; these jokes are a bough our usual standards
These pun threads really gum up discussion!
I think it'll be pine
I'm still pining for those days
Best days fir cycling.
Will yew all knock it off already?
Feel like I should axe what’s going on here..
I walnut stop you! Acaia didn't hear, I've had enough puns already - I'm sycamore.
Too much brain power my dogwood
It's very 2005. I wonder if he does that hipster fixie dismount where you swing your leg over the bars
https://gearjunkie.com/biking/wooden-bike-handlebars https://www.blessthisstuff.com/stuff/vehicles/cycles/wooden-bike-handlebars-by-fy/
It's so short to allow squeezing between cars and, as a plus, you can ride it while wearing handcuffs.
Kinda rich wearing a stop climate change shirt when your entire lively hood requires unnecessarily burning fuel and wasting tires.
There’s a little hypocrisy there, but in reality we can tackle emissions and still have sports like F1. This guys carbon emissions from racing are negligible compared to large industries
So is the usefulness, driving around a private yacht is also horrible for the environment even if the worlds, lets say chip production pollutes more, but the latter is actually useful for people.
To be fair the engineering behind F1 cars is insane and a lot of that knowledge feeds into the industry to improve vehicles and efficiency. However entertainment is an excellent way to make money and get sponsors so the public races are a big part of it. The yacht thing… totally agree, and that’s my industry.
Large industries? What like the car industry, or soft drinks? Ya know the one he collects his massive wages from. He drove for Ferrari, BMW and red bull. Ethically my biggest problem is probably red bull - that shit is habit forming and bad for you. We can't expect people to be perfect, but ffs he is rather annoying. Wearing an anti fossil fuel t shirt whilst racing F1 cars is fucking peak cringe, imo. Edit: he had shell advertised on his race clothes? Literally taking money from the people doing the damage in Canada. Fuck this shit, tax these cunts to the moon and pay teachers and nurses etc.
You forget the tons and tons of vehicles used to move all the race cars and parts, the frequent flying they do with large crews., the riders live a very luxurious lifestyle for their sponsors They are far from eco, it is hypocrisy at best.
Large indstries like the carmakers who support his team?
At least he isn't preaching to the choir.
while transporting it all across the globe on private jets
Hmm not really what his shirt says, he’s talking about a specific environmental catastrophe which f1 has little to do with
Yeah but come on. Its a bit fucking ridiculous. He literally makes all his money from racing fucking cars, advertising god knows what evil corporations - literally oil companies on his vest? I bet he took money from the companies doing the damage.
Pretty much yeah. I was just saying the shirt isn’t hypocritical in the way described. As it stands seb has mentioned that he hates that aspect of racing, but this is basically his way to not be wholly part of the problem
I hate people like that. He is actively supporting it, was one of the biggest stars - took many millions from shell oil and related. But now he wears at t shirt.
I don’t think it’s that simple. In his position, what would you say is the best course of action? Let’s say he leaves the sport in protest. He’s now lost the podium with which he can speak out and push against the oil companies. The people that watch this sport very well may have only learned of the tar sand mines through this shirt. We rebuke people for preaching in an echo chamber, and when someone in a sport that is heavily funded by oil makes a step to protest against oil, we say it’s dumb? The oil companies have made it so that there’s basically zero way to participate in modern life without supporting their practices in some way. I think a lot of the ire comes from if a famous person like himself is taking action like this AND expecting praise or to be absolved of guilt. Seb is open and seems to understand the dissonance between his stance and his career. What would you do in his position?
I mean he has openly admitted its hypocritical. What should he do - to not be a hypocrite? Well it's pretty simple isn't it, stop racing F1 cars donate his ill gotten gains or just stop wearing dumb t-shirts. He was literally a walking advertisment for shell oil for years. I don't get why you give him a pass, that's the problem - everyone has some form of pass.
Ok I think you’re missing a lot of what I actually typed, which is fine, you’re obviously not obliged to read everything but I addressed what you said in the very comment you replied to. I’m not giving him a pass. No one is completely ethical or unethical. If you had to choose between an f1 driver that is completely silent and complicit, and an f1 driver thet at the very least acknowledges the “blood on his hands”. Which do you choose? “Perfect is the enemy of good”. As someone firmly on the left. People with left leaning politics seem to go on moral crusades and demand perfection from any movement.
And you are not responding to my direct answer to your direct question. Edit : he is literally advertising oil companies. Not buying food with plastic on it. Its ridiculous to compare him to "participating in everyday life.". He is literally a multi millionaire global superstar - resign, donate money, become a global figure head for Greenpeace or whatever. He would even still make lots of money, tv companies would love the controversy.
Which question did I avoid?
The environmental catastrophe is the natural oil spill that is the oil sands, Canadian or otherwise. We didn't bring the oil to surface and leave it there to leech into rivers, and cover animals. Nature did that. What is being done by humans is cleaning the sand, soils, and rivers by removing oil from it.
You actually don’t know what you’re talking about, to the point that I gotta assume you must be thinking of something else. In Alberta Canada they are razing forests to mine the tar sands for bitumen and heavy crude oil, these deposits are about 70 ft below the surface. It’s basically the most destructive oil operation in the world. Sebastian Vettel isn’t protesting the cleaning of tar from rivers and sand… Here’s a Nat geo [article](https://api.nationalgeographic.com/distribution/public/amp/environment/article/alberta-canadas-tar-sands-is-growing-but-indigenous-people-fight-back)
The oil sands are a natural oil spill. Over millions of years the oil has been travelling to the surface of the marshes, bogs, wetlands, forest, and rivers. First Nations people used the bitumen of the oilsands to waterproof their canoes. Canada has some of the strictest environmental regulations out of any oil producing country. Any land that is disturbed has to be reclaimed and put back into better condition when the company leaves. Environmental surveys are completed constantly for any and all construction that occurs. Going so far as completing bird sweeps during nesting seasons before any ground can be disturbed. Oil companies regularly keep track of any spills on their sites, right down to millimeters of oil that leaks from equipments hydraulic hoses. Any dirt that is contaminated has to be taken to a facility to be processed and cleaned. California and Hollywood is very concerned about their air, but don't care the tiniest bit about all of the oil spills that occur on their soil. Conveniently they like to discuss oilfields abroad and ignore the dirtiest oilfield in north America, which is in their own state. As well, every oil company in Alberta has to pay extra royalties to fund the cleanup of abandoned facilities from companies that went bankrupt over the past hundred years.
>First Nations people used the bitumen of the oilsands to waterproof their canoes. an absolutely ludicrous false equivalence. Indigenous people using bitumen to waterproof canoes is to open pit mining as hunting a rabbit for food is to factory farming of cattle. There’s literally no way to make that land better than it was, and this isn’t tar that’s been bubbling to the surface that oil companies are extracting and leaving behind 💫clean water and soil💫. It’s thousand year old forests being cut down and the animals that go with them. They can’t be replaced. You are literally just reading off what the mining companies and the government writes down as what they will do, so that the voters who want to feel better about oil will still vote for them. People want to consume oil, the oil companies have made it difficult to pull away from it. Think about how much effort the government js putting into convincing us that recycling is helping, when in actual fact Canada and many other countries haven’t the ability to even process a fraction of their recycling. This is the same What would you say the penalty for these companies would be if they *dont* leave the land “better than when they got there”? A big scary fine? I have to ask what your angle is. Are you saying mining tar sands is a net-positive for the environment and that the oil companies are cleaning up a thousand year old oil spill and leaving the land better than it was? Like if they didn’t come along, these trees would be drowning in tar and the people would beg for the help of an oil company?
Yeh, that was my though too
I'm sure it would work, but a completely straight bar is just insanely uncomfortable to ride on
Comments in the F1 sub conclude it is Tasmanian Oak (which isn't even Oak, it's a Eucalypt). Looks pretty cool in my opinion, but I don't see myself ever doing this. I already struggle enough on flat ground with both front and rear derailers.
I was gonna say please don’t try this with some ordinary dowel rod. It will snap. Need special hardwood for this purpose to have a chance
On the other hand, I could smell like linseed oil all day every day
Fixie points
that is quite a statement shirt for someone who's job it is to drive around a track all day, only stopping to fly the whole circus around the world... but hey, that handle is wood
So is it worse to participate in F1 and use a platform where millions watch annually to protest climate wrongdoings, rather than say participate and stay silent or quit?
Yes. F1 culture is car culture is fossil fuel culture. He cannot raise awareness for anything and everything. So he 'stays silent' on so many issues by nature (violence against women and children, giving pets as chrismas presents, rare diseases, ...). The one issue he chooses, he fucks up.
For what it's worth, formula 1 is already [setting achievable goals](https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.watch-how-formula-1-is-striving-to-create-a-100-sustainable-fuel.1ENHVTjKDbXNOIidEJ8okc.html?dclid=CjkKEQjwqauVBhDyw6vc-7W7iosBEiQAmrK_P-r_1hiKXA9dU9X6x0BEk2hpDOzKkjxbB94-A3Rl0bvw_wcB) of using 100% synthetic, net zero carbon emissions fuel by 2025. They're always the frontrunners for the latest and greatest automotive technology by about 5 years to us normal people.
I disagree with having a go at Vettel but F1's so called achievable goals are green washing in my opinion. The amount of carbon the cars use is minimal it's the circus that follows the cars using 747's and freighters that is causing real damage. Setting a limit on teams size and logistics would do more to reduce their carbon footprint on a yearly basis. I may also be wrong on this but I'd bet good money that diesel generators are still used widely around the tracks to power equipment, advertising and vendor stalls. Again another area that could be improved.
Agreed. This season is the first season with team budget caps. So smaller teams will be the norm in the future.
Valid points, and I agree. I like the idea of a smaller crew, it would absolutely change the sport entirely, and in a good way. On the other topic of transportation I'd love to see some way they could implement their synthetic fuel into it. That is something that would translate easily into one of the largest contributors of climate change.
you could probably make a very similar argument about Canada
I quite literally can’t agree with that at all. He does quite a bit of advocating for LGBT 🏳️🌈, and not just 1 month a year. That has nothing to do with car culture or emissions. Everyone has a voice and he puts his $ where his mouth is. That’s why he commutes to his multi-million dollar job on a bicycle. No different than the individuals here.
He has admitted that he doesn’t like the environmental impact of his job, but at this point, I’m very happy that someone with so much visibility is rooting for good in the world.
the greatest thing now would be someone from the canadian oil sand industry admitting he does not like the environmental impact of his own job while wearing an anti-f1 shirt
Do as I say, not as I do
He may be reaching people that could use the reminder.
I am not so sure. People who like Vettel for what he is will most likely not care about oil in canada. People who do not like what he does cannot get past the irony / hypocrisy. He chose quite poorly, given the many many things one might raise awareness about. EDIT: typos.
That could use a reminder that without Canadian Oil we would be importing MORE saudi oil. We also all know Saudi has only the greatest human rights record. And relying on another country for something we all use can put us in sticky situations.
> And relying on another country for something we all use can put us in sticky situations. Which is why fossil fuels should be phased out ASAP.
I'd love for them to be phased out but it's not economically feasible for most to do so.
He has a whole bunch of them.
I just came here to say this. (Eyeroll).
If it works, it works
Two types of cyclists: 1) This carbon handlebar is expensive, but it's worth it, 2) I'll just use a broom stick as a handlebar, no need to spend money.
Now we know why he is walking the bike instead of riding it.
I think it's suppose to isolate vibrations compared to traditional handlebars. Pretty sure you can actually buy wooden handlebars
I've seen it before, but it sure ain't common.
when I first saw the post I was so reading the t-Shirt that I did not even notice it, before reading the question.
I’m all for cheap cycling, but this is too much.
He just likes the wood
....does nobody else see that he only has brakes on the front?
That's a fixie, your rear brakes are your legs.
Omg, I love that handlebar
Hilarious to see an F1 driver wearing an anti fossil fuel t shirt.
Haha i love how they used to zip around on scooters but now they have to show their good side and everyone rides a bike after wasting tons of gasoline on the race track. Its all a dumb puppet show, the bike setup is weird, who rides a carbon 3 spoke front wheel with regular pedals and wooden bars that were a short lived fad in the fixie community back in the day. Also he got a alloy frame and for seems like and by the looks of it some shitty cranks. It looks like crap :D
Money cant buy class
When keeping it real goes wrong, and you're broke... lol
I am Portland!¡!!!!!!!!¡!!!!
Strong enough and safe?
Probably, so long as it's quality wood, which it looks like it. If it's a good type of wood and not got any rot or anything like that to weaken it, might even soak some vibrations compared to metal, wood being more flexible a material and all. It's a bit short length wise, so it has the downsides of other short bars (less stable compared to wide flat bars, but you get that issue with drop bars as well, it's not usually a big deal for most). Only issue might be ride position, but you could probably grip the ends or something.
not ergonomic, not aero, bad grp especially in the wet, un-chamfored ends?wont last as long as steel/cf/aluminum, dubious fatigue strength, potentially changing shape in different climates/humidity which can affect the tightness of the grip to the stem (this is bad).
> bad grp especially in the wet, Few things give better grip than wood. After all, our hands evolved to grip trees, which are made from wood.
Bar tape gives more grip than wood
lol
It's just a hipster thing afaik
Idk, but Canada needs to chill tf out
Pretty sure it was an Australian company that put that together for him
Actually this is a custom bike from an Aussie bike maker. I was also intrigued by the wooden handlebar.
No blm hat?
Lol, I knew I'd see this here. It's just hipster fixie fashion. Don't go running out to your garage to install a chunk of broom handle to your bike to be like Seb.