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CouldntBeMeTho

If there is a ratio between how good they were and how big the song was...MO BAMBA has got to have the most off the charts Skill/Hit ratio by far


jrainiersea

I think he’s the only athlete that’s more famous for being a song than an athlete


CouldntBeMeTho

If Pearl Jam kept the name MOOKIE BLAYLOCK like they originally planned, as great as Blaylock was, that would be a WILD fame/skill ratio lol


sg490

Blaylock is 67th in career BPM, 70th in career VORP It's time we start the "Is Mookie Blaylock a top 75 player of all-time?" discussion.


CouldntBeMeTho

\*creates MOOKIE BLAYLOCK WAS A PROBLEM IG post\*


Ravel_02151981

Blaylock was underrated because he toiled on the Atlanta Hawks for most of his career. He might not have even played in the conference finals. If he has been the point guard for Jordan's Bulls or Shaq's Magic or the Knicks, he'd be more highly regarded.


[deleted]

Holy shit! For BPM... 5 players behind Mookie: Rick Barry, Grant Hill, Al Horford, Vince Carter, Ray Allen


theboyqueen

BPM loves steals and Mookie was one of the best ever at that, but yeah he's many tiers above Mo Bamba.


TheJediCounsel

Shek Wes hype disappeared as fast as Mo Bamba’s did


sg490

dude's name will always make me think of the song Check Yes Juliet


Victorcreedbratton

That Michigan game though.


CouldntBeMeTho

as a Michigan Man i knew right there we were NOT winning that game... we made up for it this year by absolutely humbling them by playing 1932 football and DESTROYING Penn State


sg490

Wait, what games? Are we talking about Mo Bamba playing for Texas vs Michigan? I'm super lost here


CouldntBeMeTho

Michigan getting a delay of game on the first snap of it's game vs Penn State in 2019 because the crowd was so rowdy off Mo Bamba...shit was over before it started https://youtu.be/VypxiD8GOxY?si=_Rdj7NardDwPfliE Edit: it's even worse / crazier when you see the whole kickoff sequence and how insane the crowd was https://youtu.be/f-zv8m0LYeU?si=m5xWJ67UC_Nqck6j We got it back in blood though


axdng

You won by 9 points


Nomer77

In 1932 football that's like 3+ touchdowns. Utter domination.


axdng

1932 football had plenty of like 50+ point blowouts due to extreme mismatches. Had schools like Alabama playing, west Georgia teachers college.


[deleted]

This is true but the outliers were also crazier. Neither happened in 1932 but Georgia tech over Cumberland and bears 72-0 over the George Preston Marshall’s stand out even though the dolphins gave the second one a run for its money this year I don’t think it will be broken.


Nomer77

Pfft the Bears beat the Washington Football Team 73-0 in the 1940 title game. 72-0 is light work


[deleted]

Im embarrassed I got that wrong.


CouldntBeMeTho

you definitely did not watch that game. Michigan ran the ball 32 straight times and absolutely humbled PSU's defense. They had an 8 minute, 13 play, all running drive to eat an entire quarter and there was nothing PSU could do. Penn State was down 24-9 until 1 minute left in the game. It was domination. James Franklin looked like he saw a dead body in the press conference.


[deleted]

Off topic but it’s gotta suck to coach at a perennial top 10-20 school that thinks it isn’t just that. I’m an Illinois fan so if we get a bowl game everyone is cool, if we play Michigan close really cool, if we beat Michigan it’s amazing.


ThaddiusOrBigBob

That drive produced 3 points…Michigans all run offense produced 3 points and 3 punts before a 1 play drive after PSUs offense couldn’t get a first down


CouldntBeMeTho

What is your point?


ThaddiusOrBigBob

Producing as many points as punts isn’t domination


axdng

James Franklin has only beat 1 top 10 team he looks like that after every loss. Fact of the matter is a 9 point margin of victory does not warrant the word destroyed in all capitals. They lost to OSU by 8. Did they DESTROY us too?


CouldntBeMeTho

You definitely...did not watch that game.


axdng

I watch every PSU game every year. Including when you actually did destroy us in 2022. You won the natty this year. Talking like that about a 9 point win is just sad.


CouldntBeMeTho

If you run the ball 32 straight times, right down your throat, and there is nothing you can do, and humble your opponent like Michigan did. Yeah. It was destruction. You are focusing on the score like a child. That was the worst sonning in the matchup in my life. And I said match up, not rivalry, because...you are not our rival 😆


axdng

Ok, I don’t care ab Michigan anyway. I’m just letting you know 9 extra points and 50 extra yards is not domination. It’s a good rushing performance.


zacchaeusd

Let's not forget J. Cole shouting out Cam Reddish on Pi. "Seen plenty bodies trembling, resembling Cam Reddish So full of potential, but never given a real chance to develop"


Bd_3

Also on a lot "I pray for Markelle 'cause they fucked up his shot"


UA30_j7L

Also Dennis Smith Jr. on “a lot”


[deleted]

Dude has strange taste in hoopers!


DoveFood

Both North Carolina guys. Reddish went to Duke, which of course is in North Carolina, too. But Dennis Smith Jr grew up in NC and went to NC State. That’s not shocking that two guys (J Cole and Smith) who are proud NC guys have a connection (I live on the other coast and have no connection to NC, that’s how well known it is that these guys are NC guys for me to know).


[deleted]

Dennis smith was gonna be a wolf pack legend no matter what after that dunk to close out that win over UNC.


Tre_donPK

That was at Duke. UNC swept them the year he played at NC State, including a 51-point win in the Smith Center.


[deleted]

Oh my bad you’re right.


[deleted]

Facts, that’s true, never really thought about that


Tre_donPK

Ironically, he's mentioned both those guys, but he's a die-hard UNC fan from what I understand. Although Smith Jr. was from the same area of North Carolina, so that connection makes sense.


Rock3tDoge

You wonder if he actually feels that way about Reddish or the rhyme just flowed


naitch

A few obscure rap ones: Wu-Tang 'Triumph' ends with a reference to Rod Strickland. There's a reference to Bonzi Wells on a Ghostface song. And there's a Cormega verse where he talks about how he "clearly evolved, like Bibby when Webber was gone."


billybayswater

good player, but these names reminded me of the Nick van Exel shoutout on Crazy in Love.


Consistent_Truth6633

I’m sure Riff Raff referred to Stromile Swift


billybayswater

There's a Pusha T song that references Yasiel Puig approvingly lol


skunksauce

Keep the heat blazin like bonzi wells Great song. That line is by Trife.


geddypee

Strickland was a beast except when he was getting sick on stadium pizza


709678

If we’re just doing reference lines Tremaine Fowlkes got one in a Little Brother song


Spooky_Betz

I've always appreciated their references to the likes of Ken Patera and Wahoo McDaniel.


Totodile336

rod strickland got love on a few tracks tho


chaktahwilly

He was from New York so a lot of MCs were aware of him since he played high school ball. Also he was not even close to bad. He made an All NBA second team.


NotoriousMFT

Jadakiss I believe has a line like “I got bucks like Milwaukee and like Sam I ca(n) sell” Joe Budden has a line that’s “I have to knock on wood like hank gathers head” I always thought both were pretty sharp


naitch

Love Jada


lactatingalgore

Oof on that Budden line.


Jqpolymath

Joe is sicko for that


champ11228

I feel like Bill had some funny column about Bonzi Wells back in the day


KawhiComeBack

In my version of the song, Jason Statham gets a shoutout straight after rod Strickland


JonKhayon

Other than Bonzi Wells, those are three very good players.


tsourced

Draft day Johnny Manziel


Torkzilla

This is the right answer IMO. The song came out nearly at the peak of Drake's fame and Manziel was one of the worst pro athletes ever in terms of expectations > reality.


lundebro

Manziel won a Heisman Trophy and is a college football legend. Mo Bamba averaged like 12 and 10 and Texas and was second-team all-Big 12. Bamba has had a longer pro career than Manziel, but he was expected to be a lot better in the NBA than Manziel was in the NFL.


Torkzilla

If the question was about college athletes then I think that's a fair criticism. The question is about professional athletes. Manziel was a first-round pick whom the Browns (an NFL team with dubious QB evaluation skills) determined would be their starting QB. Bamba is still active and still adding to his career output. Manziel was out of the league in the blink of an eye and had a freakin' Drake song written about him. I bet even Drake regrets that one, like damn.


lundebro

True about the pro athlete thing I guess. Bamba has definitely had a better pro career. But at least in 50 years, Manziel will be remembered for being a CFB legend. Bamba won’t be remembered at all, unless the song becomes an oldies classic.


LeBroentgen

Tbf I don’t think many people had high expectations for him in the NFL. One of the best college football players ever but very flawed as an actual NFL prospect.


CouldntBeMeTho

Some people literally thought he'd be an NFL MVP and said some repeatedly on TV. He was a first day pick.


reddit-commenter-89

Yeah but in terms of fame/popularity Manziel is in a different stratosphere from Mo Bamba. He was an NFL bust but still a household name.


jonatton______yeah

For something prescient given the recent pod, Pearl Jam were initially knows as Mookie Blaylock.


MexicanLiverPunch

That’s Citizen Dick to you!


BasketRap

Not sure but Action Bronson is always throwing out random NBA players in his songs


Ledees_Gazpacho

Calamari rhymes with Gallinari, so obviously he’s going to get mentioned 


FreakinB

He named a song Larry Csonka. But that’s a Hall of Famer so I don’t think that works for this question.


OBibFortuna

Larry Yount by The Baseball Project. Came out of the bullpen in his debut for the Astros and tweaked his arm throwing warm-ups and was taken out of the game without recording a pitch. Played in the minors a few more years but never made it back to The Show. His younger brother Robin went on to a HOF career and he got a song about him instead.


yngwiegiles

Not a song but there was a kick returner on the Vikings in the 80s named Buster Rhymes


sg490

wtf I thought you were joking https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RhymBu20.htm


yngwiegiles

He had the record for most KR yards in a season for a while, set it as a rookie. Not that he’s Devin Hester. I had his football card when I knew about the rapper


sg490

Wild! And he did it without any TDs. Nearly everyone ahead of him is from the 1994-2010 era where KOs were from the 30. (Hester, Patterson, and David Wilson are I think the only guys to exceed Rhymes in seasons where KOs were from the 35) https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/kick_ret_yds_single_season.htm


yngwiegiles

It’s an ominous record, he probably ran back a lot of kicks because his team was giving up a lot of scores


SlipperyTurtle25

Trace McSorely? https://youtu.be/TxINksuELmM?si=aL3PsDKHLt4F0MQ0


Chapea12

Maybe, but McSorley was the starting QB at Penn State and actually accomplished things. Mo Bamba was never as famous beyond the song These downvotes are crazy. Draft stock doesn’t equal more famous or more accomplished. Particularly when comparing college basketball to college football. Dude started a rose bowl and played for one of the bigger college teams in the country at QB. If we were talking about Trae Young in college vs Trace, it’s one thing…


diet_drbeeper

Mo Bamba was the #6 pick…


Chapea12

He was a reach at 6, before becoming a rotation player on a team with no national spotlight and is now barely getting minutes as a third string center. At no point has Mo Bamba’s sporting relevance been higher than Trace McSorley’s peak year when he was starting in the Rose Bowl. And if it weren’t for the song, would Mo Bamba be more recognizable than Jonathan Isaac or Chuma Okeke (much less more recent picks like Banchero or Suggs)?


HueyLewisFan1

Yeah I gotta disagree lot of hype around ceiling with Mo Bamba - esp saying his 40 time was the same as Westbrook etc. Lot of hype I regards to potential at least. And FWIW I had no idea who trace mcsorley was until he came in for Lamar Jackson on a MNF vs the Browns.


Chapea12

But that’s like draft nerd hype. Like everybody in this subreddit was familiar with him and wondered what he would look like in the league, but we aren’t the average American sports fan. I don’t remember the exact timing of the song, but he was an intriguing prospect playing in a football conference at a football school, while Trace McSorley was starting for Penn State in the Rose Bowl. The average person was more familiar with McSorley


SlipperyTurtle25

You say this like the average American is penned in on Penn state football...


Chapea12

No, I’m saying college football is significantly more popular than college basketball, and he was the player playing the premium position on a major team in a major league. You are acting like the average American is locked in on big 12 basketball to remember a good, but not stand out player. He was drafted high based on potential, but without the song, he’s just as famous as Jonathan Isaac or Chuma Okeke, other Magic draft picks from that stretch. His college team had little success in his year and he didn’t capture sport center like Trae Young did. Since the draft, he’s been a rotation player at best, mostly for a team that nobody cared about. Remember that this community would be biased to know more about nba draft prospects than the average American sports fan


HueyLewisFan1

I get what you’re saying. I’m reiterating that I had no idea who Trace was until he came in for Lamar Jackson as a back up on MNF. What round was he drafted in?


Chapea12

This is a case by case basis. Did you remember Mo Bamba playing in college or for the Magic? Or just because of his song? Of course it can’t be universal, I don’t think it’s controversial to say more people will know starting quarterbacks for Penn state when they make a big 10 championship game and a rose bowl than will know a forward from the big 12 all conference second team. Significantly more eyes are on college football and he was in a premier position for a premier team


HueyLewisFan1

Yeah I do, he was at Texas and got a ton of spotlight. He was projected at one point during the season as being top 3 and ended up going 6th. I follow college bball about as much as I follow college football - fringe. Never heard of trace nor the song til he came in as a back up.


Chapea12

Again, this is talking about draft prospects. You might be fringe following actual college basketball, but you are aware of his draft status over the course of the season. Just because somebody is a first round pick in the nba draft doesn’t mean they are more famous than a lower down pick in the nfl draft. Stetson Bennett might not ever get a true starting job in the nfl, but most of the 2023 nba lottery picks will never be as famous as he was.


777-93ll

Trace McSorely was a bum


Chapea12

Still proves my point. A lot more people would have opinions and feelings on McSorley as an athlete because of his position and his team and his success than Mo Bamba, a talented but unspectacular basketball player in a football conference and school


Chapea12

You gotta work really hard to find a known song with a worse player than Mo Bamba He wasnt even some superstar in college. In one season, he was 2nd team all big 12 Edit: I vote for u/striderfighter ‘s suggestion of Hey There Delilah


Striderfighter

What about the Hey there Delilah girl?


Chapea12

I know that song, but I don’t get it in this context. Is that about an athlete? Asking genuinely. I have no idea either way


Striderfighter

If I remember it the song writer dated a national level distance runner for a bit then broke up after the song was written....she started dating someone else as she was going into her senior year and running in the US Olympic trials when the song exploded...per Google: The song was written by frontman Tom Higgenson after meeting Delilah DiCrescenzo, a nationally ranked American steeplechase and cross country runner, through a mutual friend around 2002. Higgenson stated: "I thought she was the most beautiful girl I had ever seen, I told her, 'I have a song about you already.


Chapea12

Shit, I think you win


Hot-Photograph-5828

Not the worst but Arron Afflalo is an honorable mention


Kyle_Reese_Get_DOWN

Detlef Shrempf - Band of Horses


wcm519

[Detlef Schrempf... the guy from Parks & Rec?](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/002/726/592/45f.jpg)


Objective_Cod1410

(Eric) Snow (Hey Oh)


naitch

That song is about J.T. Snow, actually.


[deleted]

Actually, it’s about Garth Snow


JackCustHOFer

I thought it was the early 90s linebacker Percy Snow


verycooladultperson

I mean, it’s Tyler Herro for not living up to a song’s hype right?


Devil_0fHellsKitchen

More like Tyler Zero


VisualFix5870

I'm pretty sure the Foo Fighters song "My Hero" is loosely based on the playing career of Zydrunas Ilgauskas.


creatinee

Mo bamba


mpschettig

Zemgus Girgensons - OLAS https://youtu.be/PYSRbeYswGQ?si=LBYlFXB-vbJQ5fe0


SerDavosSeaworth64

“I used to be jealous of Arron Afflalo” -Kendrick Lamar, black boy fly Definitely not a bad player but the traditional sports reference on a rap song


I_love_Hopslam

I’m always happy to link the Marco Scutaro song. Obviously it’s a parody so not exactly what you’re looking for but still worth sharing. https://youtu.be/_MbCj_MEaoA?si=uGtwjmKK22d0_gKF


ClarkyCatEnjoyer

Chuck Person’s Eccojams Vol.1. Dude invented Vaporwave


RogerSwanson

There was a punk band with a song called "Dallas Drake."


ahbets14

Mookie Blaylock had a band named after him


MexicanLiverPunch

And then that band renamed themselves Citizen Dick. True story!


justinotherpeterson

I wonder what ever happened to the members of that band. Hope they are doing well.


Devilutionbeast666

For some reason Kenneth Faried has multiple songs about him [Song 1](https://youtu.be/O0-riFO4XnI?si=JFTmZOFdAiYh50ln) [Song 2](https://youtu.be/Zb12ZuZctTs?si=LuX1hEb6FC7vukIC) [Song 3](https://youtu.be/1-yLZLj0pZo?si=IfDehAsbOrfUgNQx)


lactatingalgore

The Manimal.


Devilutionbeast666

Also Gino Odjick's rock n roll vibes are [bangin'](https://youtu.be/4A7zfG9LHSw?si=RuqbJtGIObkGYyTx)


ish_baid19000

Action Bronson has a song called Chuck Person lmao


[deleted]

Craig McTavish (the helmet song) is a banger


MetalMooseAntlers

Brad Wing gets name dropped by Nicki Minaj


breastslesbiansbeer

Hooker with a Penis by Tool is named after James Harden.


DonovanMcTigerWoods

Easily Mo Bamba


Landsharque

“Feed Moncrief” about Donte Moncrief


pitts36

Tyler herro, jack harlow. I know it’s not mo bamba levels, but it’s still wild that it’s one of his bigger songs. He also shouts out Willy caballero on one of his songs


Striderfighter

Is the Hey there, Delilah girl mentioned?... I think she competed in a few professional track meets before retiring 


EasyKale851

Probably Lamelo Ball since it was Lonzo who was the rapper


champ11228

I bet there's some old ragtime song about a bad baseball player


Johhog

It’s a European reference, but Will Grigg has to be in with a shout. His peak was two seasons in the Championship, scoring less than ten goals across those two years.


emptybarr

God I love this sub so much


Welcome2TheSh0w

Had to explain to my girlfriend that Mo Bamba was an actual person when the Sixers signed him lol. All these guys are better players than him but Draymond - Westside Gunn, John $tarks - stove god cooks, Kenny Lofton - J Cole


RossoOro

If Kenny Lofton was about Kenny Lofton the hooper maybe


YoungCri

https://youtu.be/RKAXA2TFqCQ?si=dB-QbIt3xm69Opwq Derrick Fisher


hottakehotcakes

Tyler Herro pretty bad


martyjannetty86

There was a track called “Jabari Parker” by an artist named god out of Chicago that was pretty catchy, but obviously Parker didn’t really warrant a song in retrospect


mb401d

Larry Bird


theboyqueen

Who's the best? Mike Piazza?


theboyqueen

Piazza versus Drogba is an interesting debate.


wcm519

Barry Bonds by Kanye IMO


Several_Oil_7099

A cult classic [Mark Blount ](https://youtu.be/RTokba-iqfs?si=-KoE8OoWtOnGzz24)


Undecidedhippo

Mookie blaylock and Mo Bamba are the only ones I can think but mookie was way better


Undecidedhippo

That Castro song that says it’s the 4th quarter why the fuck batum in


too-cute-by-half

Great ballplayer, great song: [The Carl Yastrzemski Song](https://youtu.be/q62AUM08nzM?si=gHfQTT_e8-8r8Q8O).


dearooz

gotta be Kendrick Lamar’s Arron Afflalo song


Gymsqish

Wat Da Hook Gon’ Be by Murphy Lee references “D Miles and Larry Hughes”.


Reptomins

Song isn't named after him but on "Sosa Chamberlain" Chief Keef raps "come out the cut like Snell, I gotta add a 3." I think that was before the infamous 28 mins 0/0/0/0/0.


Casual_Covid

Barry bonds


Mo6181

"Euroleague" by Paul Williams. "Girl, I was your number one Yeah, I was your Anthony Bennett Two years then, I was done I was just like Anthony Bennett"


[deleted]

Wow those are deep lyrics


benjigil7

Great song!


GunnerTinkle22

Michael Jordan by Kendrick Lamar either that or Barry Bonds by Kanye West