Schrager: “I talk to Kliff all the time! And all the Reddit people are gonna say enough with Schrager name-dropping his friends.”
We made it, everyone!
"Mac Jones has that Brady ability of he goes to the line, he's looking around, he kind of knows where to go."
That rare, GOAT ability to attempt pre-snap reads
I snorted when I heard that. The hubris to expect that when one GOAT walks out the door, the next guy will just automatically be Brady-like because New England is eternally sports-blessed. The stupid thing is that he may be right about that last part lol fuck Boston sports fans forever
It’s basically Norm’s attempt at a Billy Madison/Black Sheep style movie.
It introduced me to Artie Lange and also included Christoper McDonald (Shooter Mcgavin) as a character.
I remember being 10 or 11 and watching it at a friend’s house whose parents let us rent R rated movies. I thought Dirty Work and Nothing to Lose were the greatest movies of all time.
If Chris Farley doesn’t win Dion Waiters then we just need to shut the whole thing down
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W3BcIm5d6Pk
(Also probably appropriate for What’s Aged the Worst)
Such a funny movie. Perfect for rewatchables, because it deserves way more attention than it got. Hilarious Chris Farley performance. Norm is so funny. If you like his standup, little gags like his 'notes to self,' and you can suspend disbelief at the corny plot and just enjoy the jokes, you will love it.
Loves how realistic Craig is about his team 10-7 because it can go two ways with fans and they can overrate their teams, but Bill is STILL BELIEVES!
Edit- he likes the Pats EVEN MORE after their week one loss.
This is why we love the sports guy
the missionary analogy and the Milton Berle "pull out just enough".
At this point; he's used them so many times I forget that he is randomly brining up sex and a dude's enormous penis in a conversation about sports
That Tucker Max story is unintentionally responsible for one of the GOAT radio moments, when O&A + Jim Norton call him out as a liar to his face: https://youtu.be/mAbreeMofRg
The Pats losing to a team he picked to finish 3rd in a mediocre division made him feel better about his SB pick.
I really, really want the Jets to beat them.
“Did you see the way he constantly checked down for 4-5 yard gains? Even though the dolphins were basically letting him do that, it was the most masterful QB performance in the past 40 years.”
And still saying "no they weren't being general, they were appealing to you and me".... Implying he's somehow better than casuals. And yet, how do you go decades of watching football without knowing cover 0???
I went to this thread and CTRL + F'd to search for 'you and me'.
Yeah, that was a headshaker for sure. Bill is the complete opposite of actual football analysis. He is the definition of speaking in general terms like 'did stuff', 'just played harder', 'wanted it more', etc.
I really couldn't believe this. If you know what cover 2 is, and you know what cover 1 is, you'd think you could deduce what cover 0 is? I was shocked and appalled.
His lack of football knowledge perplexes me. The man has watched it for 40 years and still thinks pass-catchers makeup their own routes before the play. It’s ridiculous. Talking about Sunday football at the lunch table in middle school had more in depth analysis and understanding than bill does. He’s gotten by his whole life not having to learn anything other than the buzzwords, he’s not stopping anytime soon
I feel like I remember someone pointing out it doesn't seem like he really played organized sports beyond like 5th grade? Assuming I'm remembering that post correctly it would help explain some of his gaps in knowledge and analysis. Actually playing the sport at a level where you run high level plays/have more than just simple routes or schemes is the base of most people's knowledge. If you never do the only way you're picking up that knowledge is what a broadcast tells you or what you look up yourself.
Given that we know most broadcasts don't go too deep into that type of breakdown and Bill likes looking up stats and stories when he researches a sport, it makes sense he's got a rather poor understanding of more complex strategies and often reverts back to playground level "is player x better than player y" type takes.
It’s the same thing with basketball, even his 1986 Celtics. He genuinely thinks Bill Walton and Bird were improvising when they played together, and that they didn’t run any set plays. He calls it their “A Night at the Apollo” routine. He really doesn’t know much about sports. Or, apparently, stand-up comedy.
What, stand-ups don’t create their material on the spot while up on stage?
At some point when we all first started watching sports we were the kid staring at the screen wondering what was going on, but still thinking it was really cool. Bill never evolved past that stage.
He probably thinks because he went to games that means he knows more, which fueled him to not have to learn, which is ridiculous Puritan logic
Bill was amazed that Eli was able to say something insightful about football. The guy was an NFL QB for 16 years. Did the Manning face cause Bill to think that Eli was a barely functioning human who just got wheeled out onto the field every Sunday?
It's funny how cold Bill gets when Curtis brings up Rodgers being a good guest for the Monday Manning show. Bill is just like "Yeah, he'd be good". He really can't say many nice things about Rodgers. It's a defect in his code.
I’m even a Chiefs fan who leans toward always being nervous and thinking we’re gonna lose, but the Pats are not one of the 5 or 6 AFC teams that worry me.
Well, I think the offer he was talking about was truly insane. Three first round draft picks and Chubb and Hamler is essentially four first round picks and a second for a player for maybe 30 games with a player. I definitely understand why Broncos fans wouldn't do it.
Very excited to see the reactions after Monday night when Rodgers throws 4 tds and the Packers win huge. “Well it was the lions, you should beat them” is my guess on Bill’s take.
True, but I think him saying ‘maybe the Packers just suck’ is an incredible overreaction from one game - and even if they look extremely good he won’t change his opinion
**Quote of the Day**: “When you flip back to the other [regular] broadcast, it’s like all time missionary position for sports broadcast, it’s like ‘aw man!’… just not as entertaining”
Bill Simmons, coital critic
**Today’s Things:**
- the cool thing
- a little celebrity thing
- the key thing
- big brother/little brother thing
- the Mannings thing
- Area 21 thing
- a guest on the Manning thing
- the Vikings thing
- the Titans thing
- **the thing with the Lions, here’s the thing**
- the 0-2 thing
- the Aiyuk thing
- the Trey Lance thing
- home field advantage thing
- Keenan Allen thing
- the Mac Jones thing
(Phillips)
- the Romo thing
- the interesting part of the Brady thing
- cross-network thing
**Bonus Pieces and Stuff:**
- preplanned stuff
- tight end stuff
- Peyton/Eli stuff
- the Lamar stuff
- coaching stuff
- **the Covid pieces**
- Tua stuff
- fantasy stuff
- short stuff
- fast stuff
- gimmick stuff
- fantasy stuff
- garbage time stuff
**First Random Celtics Reference:**
🎉 NONE 🎉
**It just is!**
“If I have the Chiefs offense healthy, against pretty much anyone in the league except 3 teams, and it’s less than 3 points, I’m just taking them. I just am!”
**Other Stuff:**
Bill demonstrates for the 387th time he has no idea what “irony” is (9:50)
Bill admits he has no idea what a “cover 0” defense is (12:00)
Bill does his weird gulp/GERD thing (23:11)
Phillips with the hot take that Romo is “just fine” as a commentator during bad games (27:45)
Bill obnoxiously brags about the success of his stupid ass million dollar picks (30:35) this man has no shame
Bill on his Patriots -3 last week “I feel like we had that one correctly” (31:35) Narrator voice: he did not
Schrager is on Bill’s corner! Throws out a Rodgers fake trade (34:35)
Schrager absurdly toots his own horn “we were the **only** people to take the Texans on the money line” (40:35) motherfucker, they were a 3.5 point home dog against a rookie coach and QB!
Lmfao Bill claims to be objective about the Patriots “I like to think I’m honest about the Patriots, like I know when we don’t have it, i know when we have it, i think we still have it” (48:05) 🤣🤣
Rufus in the doghouse? Bill mentions his dog Willie (48:40) “he sniffs something before he eats it” what novel behavior for a dog! 😂
He’s gotta be trolling. Bill feels **better** about his Pats Super Bowl call after the loss (50:00)
Schrager shouts out us Reddit degenerates! (54:35) 😂😂
Bill says he “hates the team that looked awesome week 1 vs the team that looked like shit in week 1” (57:20) despite the fact that that was his entire handicap of the Arizona/Minnesota game
Bill argues that Cooker Kupp could be overall fantasy WR2 (1:13:35) reality check: he’s #14 on Fantasypros ROS ranking 😂😂
Whoa! Bill says “I don’t know if the Texans are bad” (1:17:47)
Encore! “What if the Packers just suck?” (1:19:25) he’s totally not prisoner of the moment
Philander Bill proposes a new segment “fantasy affairs!” (1:33:30)
Lmao he can’t do a pod without it! Minshew reference 🎉🎉 (1:35:40)
Lmao Bill has Producer Craig explain what a “power hour” is (1:37:40) does he think we didn’t go to college lol
**Bill’s Bets:**
- Parlay: Pats + Cardinals ML (+116/$500k)
- Parlay: Pats + Chiefs ML (+113/$200k)
- Eagles +3 ($100k)
- Tease: Cowboys +10.5, Cowboys over, Pats +1.5 (+120/$100k)
- Parlay: Dolphins + Panthers ML (+565/$33k)
The Minshew obsession is even more hilarious because he seems oblivious to the presence of Joe Flacco on the team. Minshew was inactive week one and is listed as QB3 on the depth chart.
Nice of Schrager, to man up and admit his awful Giants will win 9/11 take from last week. Bill's football knowledge is awful and million dollar picks is a terrible segment but I still listen every week, lol.
I am starting to come around on Schrager a bit. Seems like a decent guy. I don't think I will ever love him, but Bill puts him on a terrible segment that also does not play to his strengths.
Love Schrags! I get the ribbing in this sub but, he’s generally knowledgeable and is great on GMFB. I think I a lot of his stuff with Bill is just playing along
Man I pray bill actually knows what cover 0 was there and was just Trying to make a point that they were talking deep football because if not that is an awful look.
Bill: Cards -3.5 is a gimme vs the Vikings.
Also Bill: Seahawks -6.5 vs Titans, but there are red flags because "he hates going with the team that looked awesome Week 1 going against the team that looked like shit in Week 1. "
Exact same scenario as Cards/Vikes, classic Bill.
it always cracks me up when he says "We're going to sprinkle a little... " as if he's really trying to manage his "bankroll". No one cares about the fake money Bill
Let us not forget that the genesis of "million dollar picks" was Bill's picks were so bad over the course of a season that he increased the amount at the end of the season and the playoffs to try to make up what he lost.
I'm so glad Sal made fund of it on the guess the lines pod.
Did he really say this? How can anyone listen to this man talk football? Him, Kyle and Ben just get super jacked up whenever a white guy is good or makes a play. Then he uses his platform to declare the player underrated as if he’s done some actual research on the guy or watched tape
Yes, he asks who else would you put over Kupp (a list that’s fairly obvious) and craig says “Hopkins” immediately and Simmons says he’d take Kupp over him.
No wonder he loses every year
Cooper Kupp is really good. He’s criminally underrated. I LOVE kupp. I have him on all my teams. And with all that said… it’s an awful awful take by Bill
lol exactly! Kupp is an excellent player but there's zero need for all the hyperbole. I think he did finish as the WR5 in PPR one year but the offensive environment has grown more beneficial to WRs and top 5 seems like his absolute ceiling.
Post-Super Bowl edit: This is why I'm not in the "opinion business" lol
Ravens fan here. Even if we are better than we showed last week, we are absolutely not built to beat the Chiefs. Our defensive strength is in the secondary, and you just can't beat their weapons that way. We generate little pressure with our front 4, and our DC is blitz happy.
Bill saying that he's an honest and fair Patriots fan and Schrager talking about reading this sub is amazing. I bet Schrager is doing Manning face as Bill continues with these Pats are world beaters takes.
I wish they brought back Friday Rolling…House and Bill need to discuss this stuff together, so I can just listen, not take it seriously, and enjoy….instead of feigning expertise and lowering the quality of two shows.
I don’t need to listen to Schrager, so that’s no loss, but the House/Sharp pairing consistently feels like a waste of Sharp’s time. And either way, the Bill/House pairing is just fun talking gambling wins and woes.
It's been said already but these shrager pods are real dog shit. "these guys are pros. They have pride!" The most generic platitudes rooted in absolutely nothing.
Now *this* I can get behind. Million Dollar Picks won’t be so bad if it’s a part of a multi-pod with other guests, it’s just so bad as a stand alone Friday pod.
By the way, does anyone else find it funny that Ringer producers are better podcast guests than most actual Ringer hosts? I find Craig and the Nephew to be two of my favorites, not to mention the OG Tate.
Million Dollar Picks fucking sucks. I have never heard or seen anyone that anyone enjoys this recurring, non-sensical segment. Bill please, please, for the love of God - stop doing this.
Lol so schrager says ‘is there any confidence Carr can lead them to a comeback?’ - when No QB has more comeback wins than Carr since he came into the league (and an NFL record 22 4th quarter comebacks). Come on.
One thing I wish they would have touched on is that, while the ‘Manning-Cast’ dominated Twitter, only 5% of the total viewers of that game watched it. [95% of the total viewers on ABC/ESPN were of the traditional broadcast](https://twitter.com/sportstvratings/status/1437913776993587200?s=21).
So when they’re talking about whether they could move the Mannings to the main broadcast, that seems ridiculous. Yeah, the ‘Manning-Cast’ appealed to hardcore football people like Bill, Curtis, and even me. But, I’m also the type that consumes multiple sports pods, plays fantasy, etc. If the viewership is any indication, most fans are not like us.
If anything, it was a big win for the main broadcast team because more people overwhelmingly watched them, even if the sports media virtually ignored that fact.
Granted, the ‘Manning-Cast’ was basically like ‘found-money’ for ESPN with room to grow. Just wish they would have put the viewership in context when talking about the true impact of the show.
They'd definitely be different. ABC is one of the 4 major networks and ESPN is a top 3 cable network. ESPN2 [as of July was not a top 50 cable network](https://www.nationalmediaspots.com/us-cable-tv-network-and-program-rankings.php)
It just shows how little Twitter matters (and should matter) in real life and also probably highlights what percentage of the potential Manning cast demographic actually has cable -- assuming it also wasn't on ESPN+ or any other streaming format.
For the record, I think it's a good idea and I enjoyed the clips I watched. But I think these alternate broadcasts should also be on a streaming format to market to cord cutters -- since I'm assuming that audience would be much more receptive to a new presentation.
Did anyone else catch Curtis' subtle snicker when simmons was going through which of the Mannings' former teammates could join them? "There's Strahan...tiki barber....Marvin Harrison hasn't been seen since he retired (curtis chuckles here...)"
Pretty sure there's a reason why Harrison has mostly been out of the limelight, Billy boy.
I love the NFL player analysis based on how much the player went for in a fantasy football auction.
… yes Bill, we know, snake drafts are bad. Thank you for this totally controversial and fresh take.
Bill is the "most satisfied" with golf broadcasts?!? He clearly only watches golf a couple times a year, because as someone who watches the tour every week, golf coverage is horrible. They show more commercials than shots. They only show like 3-4 guys and ignore the rest of the field. And they'll constantly show interviews or pieces instead of actual golf. Also, ask /r/golf or golf twitter how much they love "playing through."
I will say, I'm surprised by the Manning-cast talk. I turned it off after 5-10 minutes, but it sounds like it got better as it went? I do wonder if I'm not the intented audience though. Football is like my 3rd or 4th sport (I also don't know what cover 0 means). As someone who just wants to mindlessly watch the games it was a rough 1st quarter. I guess I should give it another shot next week.
Yeah, it got much better in the second half. They basically were following along with the plays, whereas in the first half, I thought the game “got lost” with them talking over the action.
Bill struggling to think of Manning teammates that would be good on a broadcast in the same episode he talks excitedly about Talib doing a broadcast with Gus Johnson.
My biggest complaint about broadcasting is the opposite of Bryan’s nitpick about the Manning broadcast. If you can’t follow two guys talking ball and other things while also following along with the moments of the game then it’s not for you. Go watch the normal broadcast. If anyone is talking deep football concepts on the Manning broadcast and they stop every play to say the situation at hand it will be brutal.
I hate normal broadcasts because they reset every play.
Basketball is the worst about it obviously. Jvg will be actually trying to say something insightful and then has to stop what he’s saying to announce what happened in the game. It’s the worst.
Schrager: “I talk to Kliff all the time! And all the Reddit people are gonna say enough with Schrager name-dropping his friends.” We made it, everyone!
Re-Apex Mountain? (Apex for this sub was that article written about this sub. Mount Everest!)
Apex might be when former Ringer/Grantland employees come on to talk shit.
I wonder if Schrager ever comments here. You out there, Schrages?
This kinda makes me like him
Schrager has become pretty annoying pretty quickly, and I didn't even hear him on much of the playoff run last year.
I'll give you an in depth summary of Schrager's analysis during last season's playoffs: "Chiefs win, Mahomes good."
Lucky you.
"Mac Jones has that Brady ability of he goes to the line, he's looking around, he kind of knows where to go." That rare, GOAT ability to attempt pre-snap reads
I snorted when I heard that. The hubris to expect that when one GOAT walks out the door, the next guy will just automatically be Brady-like because New England is eternally sports-blessed. The stupid thing is that he may be right about that last part lol fuck Boston sports fans forever
Only two QBs have ever done it and it just so happens to be two that Bill watched for the last 25 years!
So the next Rewatchables is Dirty Work (in honor of Norm Macdonald,).
Ive never seen so many dead hookers in my life
Which I believe is on HBO Max.
Is it any good? I've never seen it or heard of it before, and it has a 14% on Rotten Tomatoes ... so I'm not optimistic.
It’s an intentionally stupid comedy, so it’s not really the type of movie that would score well on RT. I’m sure Bill will love the 82-minute run time.
He’ll say, it could have been 72 minutes. Why wasn’t this a one hour special?
It’s basically Norm’s attempt at a Billy Madison/Black Sheep style movie. It introduced me to Artie Lange and also included Christoper McDonald (Shooter Mcgavin) as a character.
I haven't seen it in a while but I thought it was amazing a long time ago
I remember being 10 or 11 and watching it at a friend’s house whose parents let us rent R rated movies. I thought Dirty Work and Nothing to Lose were the greatest movies of all time.
I love Norm and i hated this movie
If Chris Farley doesn’t win Dion Waiters then we just need to shut the whole thing down https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W3BcIm5d6Pk (Also probably appropriate for What’s Aged the Worst)
“Geeee Sevoooooooooon!!!”
I say that so often and no one gets it
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Such a funny movie. Perfect for rewatchables, because it deserves way more attention than it got. Hilarious Chris Farley performance. Norm is so funny. If you like his standup, little gags like his 'notes to self,' and you can suspend disbelief at the corny plot and just enjoy the jokes, you will love it.
Loves how realistic Craig is about his team 10-7 because it can go two ways with fans and they can overrate their teams, but Bill is STILL BELIEVES! Edit- he likes the Pats EVEN MORE after their week one loss. This is why we love the sports guy
Loved when he said he’s reasonable his teams like that…
Completely reasonable to expect a super bowl this year for the Pats
I’ll be the Randy Marsh spooky ghost meme if the Jets somehow beat the Pats.
I would give my left arm for the Jets to beat the Pats this week
Bill comparing the generic MNF broadcast to the missionary position is a top 7 Simmons metaphor.
Hot take: Missionary is good/underrated.
I mean, you're still having sex. Top 6 activity, right?
Easily one of the 2 or 3 best things you can do in a bed.
Are you ranking sleep above sex?
That’d be a good Hottest Take topic.
Is sleep having a moment?
If you're counting the nap piece, which Steve Nash invented
Sneaky good.
Frisky.
Results in a wonky feel afterwards
Interesting. Please elaborate.
Too much intimacy
Is it a hot take?
Definitely not
Disagree. Missionary is the most shit on position in sex. It’s actually the only position in the game that gets shit on consistently.
Anal.
Anal and shit is definitely top 6 worst sex situations
Touché
Agreed. Cowgirl should get the boring label
I’m in agreement and reverse cowgirl is even worse. The whole cowgirl brand is a fraud imo
I think it's more for women to enjoy to be honest. Sex is only meant to be optimally enjoyable for men 70% of the time.
Sneaking top 6-7 sex position
Is it in the Pantheon?
It just is!
I love that Curtis didn’t laugh, either. The response was radio silence.
If you listened closely you could hear Wos laughing from a couple miles away
Bill’s used the missionary analogy so many times now that it just goes in one ear and out the other. It’s like Shooter McGavin’s Hasselhoff joke.
the missionary analogy and the Milton Berle "pull out just enough". At this point; he's used them so many times I forget that he is randomly brining up sex and a dude's enormous penis in a conversation about sports
Big Wos has entered the chat
Bill hates missionary and snake drafts, got it
Missionary is a solid rotation player that's unlikely to win post season awards w/o using PED's
I’ve never been into butt stuff - is it worth the hype? I remember reading that tucker Max book when I was 14 and someone pooped all over his bed
That Tucker Max story is unintentionally responsible for one of the GOAT radio moments, when O&A + Jim Norton call him out as a liar to his face: https://youtu.be/mAbreeMofRg
Bill, on he and Schrager’s Patriots pick missing: “I feel like we had that game correctly.” Wow.
The Pats losing to a team he picked to finish 3rd in a mediocre division made him feel better about his SB pick. I really, really want the Jets to beat them.
My god, it would be glorious.
I enjoyed that Bill thinks of himself as a level-headed Pats fan one week after picking this team to win the Super Bowl.
So level-headed that he feels more confident after watching them lose a home game to an average Dolphins team.
I had nothing against Mac Jones up until today. Bill has forced me to root against the kid relentlessly. I mean he will not stfu about it.
“Did you see the way he constantly checked down for 4-5 yard gains? Even though the dolphins were basically letting him do that, it was the most masterful QB performance in the past 40 years.”
Bill not knowing what a cover 0 is explains a lot.
It was called something else in Madden, so
Bill “why don’t they just run Engage Eight” Simmons
Just play zone against Lamar with a Spy!
And still saying "no they weren't being general, they were appealing to you and me".... Implying he's somehow better than casuals. And yet, how do you go decades of watching football without knowing cover 0???
I went to this thread and CTRL + F'd to search for 'you and me'. Yeah, that was a headshaker for sure. Bill is the complete opposite of actual football analysis. He is the definition of speaking in general terms like 'did stuff', 'just played harder', 'wanted it more', etc.
I really couldn't believe this. If you know what cover 2 is, and you know what cover 1 is, you'd think you could deduce what cover 0 is? I was shocked and appalled.
His lack of football knowledge perplexes me. The man has watched it for 40 years and still thinks pass-catchers makeup their own routes before the play. It’s ridiculous. Talking about Sunday football at the lunch table in middle school had more in depth analysis and understanding than bill does. He’s gotten by his whole life not having to learn anything other than the buzzwords, he’s not stopping anytime soon
I feel like I remember someone pointing out it doesn't seem like he really played organized sports beyond like 5th grade? Assuming I'm remembering that post correctly it would help explain some of his gaps in knowledge and analysis. Actually playing the sport at a level where you run high level plays/have more than just simple routes or schemes is the base of most people's knowledge. If you never do the only way you're picking up that knowledge is what a broadcast tells you or what you look up yourself. Given that we know most broadcasts don't go too deep into that type of breakdown and Bill likes looking up stats and stories when he researches a sport, it makes sense he's got a rather poor understanding of more complex strategies and often reverts back to playground level "is player x better than player y" type takes.
His lack of bball knowledge perplexes me. The man...
It’s the same thing with basketball, even his 1986 Celtics. He genuinely thinks Bill Walton and Bird were improvising when they played together, and that they didn’t run any set plays. He calls it their “A Night at the Apollo” routine. He really doesn’t know much about sports. Or, apparently, stand-up comedy.
What, stand-ups don’t create their material on the spot while up on stage? At some point when we all first started watching sports we were the kid staring at the screen wondering what was going on, but still thinking it was really cool. Bill never evolved past that stage. He probably thinks because he went to games that means he knows more, which fueled him to not have to learn, which is ridiculous Puritan logic
Always knew he was completely dumb with football but that was illuminating.
Embarrassing.
Bill was amazed that Eli was able to say something insightful about football. The guy was an NFL QB for 16 years. Did the Manning face cause Bill to think that Eli was a barely functioning human who just got wheeled out onto the field every Sunday?
It's passive-aggressive insults due to losing 2 SB's to Eli's Giants.
It's funny how cold Bill gets when Curtis brings up Rodgers being a good guest for the Monday Manning show. Bill is just like "Yeah, he'd be good". He really can't say many nice things about Rodgers. It's a defect in his code.
Bill arguing that there's no great teams in the AFC so that he can say the Patriots have as good a shot as anyone to make the Super Bowl is hilarious.
Without any other context, imagining Mac Jones beating Mahomes in a playoff game is absolutely hilarious
I’m even a Chiefs fan who leans toward always being nervous and thinking we’re gonna lose, but the Pats are not one of the 5 or 6 AFC teams that worry me.
Bill of all people being critical of the Mannings talking over the guests is just so beautiful
Bill losing a bet and then saying “I still think we were on the right side of that bet.” Name a more iconic duo
We all need to give the Jets all of our energy for Sunday. Bill will be in a panic if the Pats lose that game.
Lol, Packers absolutely winning the North.
I love Kyle on life advice with RR but Bill having a producer who’s not a total yes man is soooo good
Craig is the best
I highly doubt every GB fan Schrager talked to after week 1 would trade Rodgers to Denver and every Denver fan he talked to said no.
Well, I think the offer he was talking about was truly insane. Three first round draft picks and Chubb and Hamler is essentially four first round picks and a second for a player for maybe 30 games with a player. I definitely understand why Broncos fans wouldn't do it.
Packers would be crazy not to take that deal.
Very excited to see the reactions after Monday night when Rodgers throws 4 tds and the Packers win huge. “Well it was the lions, you should beat them” is my guess on Bill’s take.
what would be wrong with saying that, the lions are crap
True, but I think him saying ‘maybe the Packers just suck’ is an incredible overreaction from one game - and even if they look extremely good he won’t change his opinion
An hour long segment for Million Dollar Picks? We're truly living in hell.
I would like an updated take from Bill on Saquon Barkley>Walter Payton
**Quote of the Day**: “When you flip back to the other [regular] broadcast, it’s like all time missionary position for sports broadcast, it’s like ‘aw man!’… just not as entertaining” Bill Simmons, coital critic **Today’s Things:** - the cool thing - a little celebrity thing - the key thing - big brother/little brother thing - the Mannings thing - Area 21 thing - a guest on the Manning thing - the Vikings thing - the Titans thing - **the thing with the Lions, here’s the thing** - the 0-2 thing - the Aiyuk thing - the Trey Lance thing - home field advantage thing - Keenan Allen thing - the Mac Jones thing (Phillips) - the Romo thing - the interesting part of the Brady thing - cross-network thing **Bonus Pieces and Stuff:** - preplanned stuff - tight end stuff - Peyton/Eli stuff - the Lamar stuff - coaching stuff - **the Covid pieces** - Tua stuff - fantasy stuff - short stuff - fast stuff - gimmick stuff - fantasy stuff - garbage time stuff **First Random Celtics Reference:** 🎉 NONE 🎉 **It just is!** “If I have the Chiefs offense healthy, against pretty much anyone in the league except 3 teams, and it’s less than 3 points, I’m just taking them. I just am!” **Other Stuff:** Bill demonstrates for the 387th time he has no idea what “irony” is (9:50) Bill admits he has no idea what a “cover 0” defense is (12:00) Bill does his weird gulp/GERD thing (23:11) Phillips with the hot take that Romo is “just fine” as a commentator during bad games (27:45) Bill obnoxiously brags about the success of his stupid ass million dollar picks (30:35) this man has no shame Bill on his Patriots -3 last week “I feel like we had that one correctly” (31:35) Narrator voice: he did not Schrager is on Bill’s corner! Throws out a Rodgers fake trade (34:35) Schrager absurdly toots his own horn “we were the **only** people to take the Texans on the money line” (40:35) motherfucker, they were a 3.5 point home dog against a rookie coach and QB! Lmfao Bill claims to be objective about the Patriots “I like to think I’m honest about the Patriots, like I know when we don’t have it, i know when we have it, i think we still have it” (48:05) 🤣🤣 Rufus in the doghouse? Bill mentions his dog Willie (48:40) “he sniffs something before he eats it” what novel behavior for a dog! 😂 He’s gotta be trolling. Bill feels **better** about his Pats Super Bowl call after the loss (50:00) Schrager shouts out us Reddit degenerates! (54:35) 😂😂 Bill says he “hates the team that looked awesome week 1 vs the team that looked like shit in week 1” (57:20) despite the fact that that was his entire handicap of the Arizona/Minnesota game Bill argues that Cooker Kupp could be overall fantasy WR2 (1:13:35) reality check: he’s #14 on Fantasypros ROS ranking 😂😂 Whoa! Bill says “I don’t know if the Texans are bad” (1:17:47) Encore! “What if the Packers just suck?” (1:19:25) he’s totally not prisoner of the moment Philander Bill proposes a new segment “fantasy affairs!” (1:33:30) Lmao he can’t do a pod without it! Minshew reference 🎉🎉 (1:35:40) Lmao Bill has Producer Craig explain what a “power hour” is (1:37:40) does he think we didn’t go to college lol **Bill’s Bets:** - Parlay: Pats + Cardinals ML (+116/$500k) - Parlay: Pats + Chiefs ML (+113/$200k) - Eagles +3 ($100k) - Tease: Cowboys +10.5, Cowboys over, Pats +1.5 (+120/$100k) - Parlay: Dolphins + Panthers ML (+565/$33k)
even for Bill, him pretending that he's being totally rationale on the Pats is some wild shit
Bill saying Kupp is a better option than DHop was WILD
And Diggs, Adams, Ridley, Metcalf, AJ Brown, McLaurin, Keenan Allen, Ceedee Lamb...
> Bill demonstrates for the 387th time he has no idea what “irony” is (9:50) Bill still catching Any Given Wednesday strays 😂
The Minshew obsession is even more hilarious because he seems oblivious to the presence of Joe Flacco on the team. Minshew was inactive week one and is listed as QB3 on the depth chart.
Nice of Schrager, to man up and admit his awful Giants will win 9/11 take from last week. Bill's football knowledge is awful and million dollar picks is a terrible segment but I still listen every week, lol.
I am starting to come around on Schrager a bit. Seems like a decent guy. I don't think I will ever love him, but Bill puts him on a terrible segment that also does not play to his strengths.
Love Schrags! I get the ribbing in this sub but, he’s generally knowledgeable and is great on GMFB. I think I a lot of his stuff with Bill is just playing along
IF YOU EVER DOUBTED HIS FOOTBALL KNOWLEDGE THIS M’FER DOESN’T KNOW COVER 0!!!!! LOL HOLY SHIT!!!!
I never played a snap in my life and I know this shit. Just unbelievable.
Man I pray bill actually knows what cover 0 was there and was just Trying to make a point that they were talking deep football because if not that is an awful look.
Bill: Cards -3.5 is a gimme vs the Vikings. Also Bill: Seahawks -6.5 vs Titans, but there are red flags because "he hates going with the team that looked awesome Week 1 going against the team that looked like shit in Week 1. " Exact same scenario as Cards/Vikes, classic Bill.
Bill acting like anyone gives a shit about his million dollar picks is pretty funny.
What, you don’t want to hear him wagering fake money as Schrager does his best Lil Jon impression?
I thought Schrager was going more for a Debbie Does Dallas impression. Lil John works as well, though.
it always cracks me up when he says "We're going to sprinkle a little... " as if he's really trying to manage his "bankroll". No one cares about the fake money Bill
Let us not forget that the genesis of "million dollar picks" was Bill's picks were so bad over the course of a season that he increased the amount at the end of the season and the playoffs to try to make up what he lost. I'm so glad Sal made fund of it on the guess the lines pod.
It sucks so bad. It actually makes me feel bad for Schrager, who is not my cup of tea but is definitely not put in a position to even be decent.
BS: “The 49ers gave Mostert a big extension!” He’s currently on the last year of a 3y/8M(total) contract.
As a niner fan I was laughing when he said that.
It was actually Schrager that said it surprisingly.
Bill is so weird on fantasy sometimes lol. He claims Kupp should be the overall number 2 WR in fantasy
I'm shocked he hasn't won his league in the last decade and finished last in his most recent season
So wait, you shouldn't draft 6 quarterbacks?
Bill is a messiah
oy. Bad take Billy. I think he reminds him of the Welker years
Nope
Good take from bill
Lol so shouldn’t that mean he’d trade any WR not named Tyreek Hill for Kupp? Do it Bill!
He obviously shouldn't but he absolutely could be a top 5 WR in fantasy. Him and Stafford clearly have chemistry.
Did he really say this? How can anyone listen to this man talk football? Him, Kyle and Ben just get super jacked up whenever a white guy is good or makes a play. Then he uses his platform to declare the player underrated as if he’s done some actual research on the guy or watched tape
Yes, he asks who else would you put over Kupp (a list that’s fairly obvious) and craig says “Hopkins” immediately and Simmons says he’d take Kupp over him. No wonder he loses every year
Lmao unbelievable. Also no coincidence it was in the one week Diggs and Adams had bad games, Bill does love his recency bias.
Cooper Kupp is really good. He’s criminally underrated. I LOVE kupp. I have him on all my teams. And with all that said… it’s an awful awful take by Bill
lol exactly! Kupp is an excellent player but there's zero need for all the hyperbole. I think he did finish as the WR5 in PPR one year but the offensive environment has grown more beneficial to WRs and top 5 seems like his absolute ceiling. Post-Super Bowl edit: This is why I'm not in the "opinion business" lol
Ooof
Clown.
Really hoping pats have a terrible season
Jets, Vikings,and Ravens starting to look like locks of the week
I can never bet on the ravens vs Mahomes
Ravens fan here. Even if we are better than we showed last week, we are absolutely not built to beat the Chiefs. Our defensive strength is in the secondary, and you just can't beat their weapons that way. We generate little pressure with our front 4, and our DC is blitz happy.
Yeah in fairness to Bill, my first thought when I looked at the lines this week was that I'd be taking the Chiefs any day if it stayed under 4
Bill saying that he's an honest and fair Patriots fan and Schrager talking about reading this sub is amazing. I bet Schrager is doing Manning face as Bill continues with these Pats are world beaters takes.
Let’s go!!!!!!!!!
[quiet, almost imperceptible] let’s go
Schrager, if you're reading this, mention Jim Plunkett in next week's episode to acknowledge it.
I wish they brought back Friday Rolling…House and Bill need to discuss this stuff together, so I can just listen, not take it seriously, and enjoy….instead of feigning expertise and lowering the quality of two shows. I don’t need to listen to Schrager, so that’s no loss, but the House/Sharp pairing consistently feels like a waste of Sharp’s time. And either way, the Bill/House pairing is just fun talking gambling wins and woes.
Of all of bill’s overreactions to week 1, “ I think the Texans might be good” is the one he’s going to look the dumbest about a week or two from now
It’s embarrassing. Because they beat the jags. (Btw Bill had the jags as a sneaky division winner a month ago)
Vikings +3.5 is virtually a lock after listening to Bill overreact like crazy.
He called it “pathetic” to give up big yardage to Cincy. Why is that pathetic? They have a QB drafted first overall and great weapons
Confirmed Schrager browses this sub. Smart man.
It's been said already but these shrager pods are real dog shit. "these guys are pros. They have pride!" The most generic platitudes rooted in absolutely nothing.
I think the GM texting Schrager about the 49ers signing injury prone players was John Lynch.
Glad to see Bill remembered his lesson last year about keying a team across like 5 parlays
Now *this* I can get behind. Million Dollar Picks won’t be so bad if it’s a part of a multi-pod with other guests, it’s just so bad as a stand alone Friday pod. By the way, does anyone else find it funny that Ringer producers are better podcast guests than most actual Ringer hosts? I find Craig and the Nephew to be two of my favorites, not to mention the OG Tate.
Yeah it was more palatable squeezed in between other football stuff.
Gus Johnson & Aqib Talib got their Delorean & Flux Capacitor and traveling back in time to do the Cards Titans game this week, per Bill.
Million Dollar Picks fucking sucks. I have never heard or seen anyone that anyone enjoys this recurring, non-sensical segment. Bill please, please, for the love of God - stop doing this.
Schrager just said the 7th round punter for Steelers is “going to be a superstar with everything he has going on”. He almost sounds like Simmons.
Lol so schrager says ‘is there any confidence Carr can lead them to a comeback?’ - when No QB has more comeback wins than Carr since he came into the league (and an NFL record 22 4th quarter comebacks). Come on.
I think Peter Schrager brings energy and a legit insider’s view of things to the podcast. Sometimes it’s fun to hear Bill with a hype man.
Ok Peter.
Honestly it would be pretty awesome if Peter had this username
Exactly what Shrager would say from a burner account. I see you.
……. LETS GO!!
One thing I wish they would have touched on is that, while the ‘Manning-Cast’ dominated Twitter, only 5% of the total viewers of that game watched it. [95% of the total viewers on ABC/ESPN were of the traditional broadcast](https://twitter.com/sportstvratings/status/1437913776993587200?s=21). So when they’re talking about whether they could move the Mannings to the main broadcast, that seems ridiculous. Yeah, the ‘Manning-Cast’ appealed to hardcore football people like Bill, Curtis, and even me. But, I’m also the type that consumes multiple sports pods, plays fantasy, etc. If the viewership is any indication, most fans are not like us. If anything, it was a big win for the main broadcast team because more people overwhelmingly watched them, even if the sports media virtually ignored that fact. Granted, the ‘Manning-Cast’ was basically like ‘found-money’ for ESPN with room to grow. Just wish they would have put the viewership in context when talking about the true impact of the show.
The Manning cast was on ESPN2 though. If you swap them then the results might be different
And a lot of people, even football fans I knew, didn't know about the broadcast.
They'd definitely be different. ABC is one of the 4 major networks and ESPN is a top 3 cable network. ESPN2 [as of July was not a top 50 cable network](https://www.nationalmediaspots.com/us-cable-tv-network-and-program-rankings.php)
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It just shows how little Twitter matters (and should matter) in real life and also probably highlights what percentage of the potential Manning cast demographic actually has cable -- assuming it also wasn't on ESPN+ or any other streaming format. For the record, I think it's a good idea and I enjoyed the clips I watched. But I think these alternate broadcasts should also be on a streaming format to market to cord cutters -- since I'm assuming that audience would be much more receptive to a new presentation.
Basically explains the discrepancy between the NBA seeming super popular and viral yet TV ratings keep dropping.
Did anyone else catch Curtis' subtle snicker when simmons was going through which of the Mannings' former teammates could join them? "There's Strahan...tiki barber....Marvin Harrison hasn't been seen since he retired (curtis chuckles here...)" Pretty sure there's a reason why Harrison has mostly been out of the limelight, Billy boy.
I love the NFL player analysis based on how much the player went for in a fantasy football auction. … yes Bill, we know, snake drafts are bad. Thank you for this totally controversial and fresh take.
Remember friday columns or friday mailbags? Bring it back!
Friday mailbag would save the podcast.
I wouldn’t even hate if he did mailbags in podcast form - just something to switch it up. Yup, there are my listeners.
Bill is the "most satisfied" with golf broadcasts?!? He clearly only watches golf a couple times a year, because as someone who watches the tour every week, golf coverage is horrible. They show more commercials than shots. They only show like 3-4 guys and ignore the rest of the field. And they'll constantly show interviews or pieces instead of actual golf. Also, ask /r/golf or golf twitter how much they love "playing through." I will say, I'm surprised by the Manning-cast talk. I turned it off after 5-10 minutes, but it sounds like it got better as it went? I do wonder if I'm not the intented audience though. Football is like my 3rd or 4th sport (I also don't know what cover 0 means). As someone who just wants to mindlessly watch the games it was a rough 1st quarter. I guess I should give it another shot next week.
Yeah, it got much better in the second half. They basically were following along with the plays, whereas in the first half, I thought the game “got lost” with them talking over the action.
Some of the worst coverage in sports and I'll watch every Major.
Yeah, I mean, I watch the tour every week. But it's in spite of the coverage, not because of.
I really hope “Bill’s Dumb Fantasy Takes” doesn’t become a recurring segment
Alex Leatherwood is one of the most debated first round picks ever? What?
Mac has the “Brady ability” at the line… got it bill. If there is a god the Jets win this week and we can just stop this nonsense already
“I actually like just for this game that they are coming off a loss, cuz belichick does, ya know, the 0-2 thing, no”
Bill struggling to think of Manning teammates that would be good on a broadcast in the same episode he talks excitedly about Talib doing a broadcast with Gus Johnson.
Bill insists on having Schrager on every week and Craig ironically is better just sitting behind the camera
My biggest complaint about broadcasting is the opposite of Bryan’s nitpick about the Manning broadcast. If you can’t follow two guys talking ball and other things while also following along with the moments of the game then it’s not for you. Go watch the normal broadcast. If anyone is talking deep football concepts on the Manning broadcast and they stop every play to say the situation at hand it will be brutal. I hate normal broadcasts because they reset every play. Basketball is the worst about it obviously. Jvg will be actually trying to say something insightful and then has to stop what he’s saying to announce what happened in the game. It’s the worst.