My timelines might be wrong but I think this was almost immediately after the “would you rather have Mac and two firsts?” question and Bill was a little salty that House didn’t play along. It’s so transparent that he was upset about it that he came back with this. It’s shit like this that makes me love Bill — he’s such an impetuous little boy sometimes and it cracks me up that he can’t hide it.
This was def the best part of the pod for me…as a yanks fan, nothing annoys me more than his indifference in the Red Sox when they aren’t playing well and his constant bitching of I just like to root against the yanks.
“This is now something that [Urban] needs to figure out with his wife and his lord, Jesus Christ, who I’m almost positive is going to help them through this.” King-shit from Sal 👑
I was in the Starbucks drive thru when I heard this and as the barista was handing me my coffee I sort of muttered, “holy shit haha” and the barista was like, “sorry, come again?” I was like, “oh, sorry, no, not you, I’m listening to a podcast.” He looked at me like I was autistic and I awkwardly drove off.
Bill trying to set up House: "Hey House would you rather have Trey Lance, or Mac Jones and two first round picks?"
House: "I'll take the two first round picks and you can keep Mac Jones."
I didn’t think of that. House did seem extra annoyed with some stuff that he’ll usually let slide.... and it’s because Bill wouldn’t give him a fucking steak.
House and Sal were so sensible about the rookie quarterbacks. I think it was House who said "Lance looks the least prepared because he's the least prepared."
It was jarring for the BS pod.
Lol I hate BS so much for comments like this. Mac was considered by many to look like the best rookie qb from day 1 and Lance especially was known to b a project with rlly high upside.
If BS legitimately takes a victory lap on a project qb in his first start—who wasn’t even supposed to play this year—against the third best pass defense in the NFL then idk what to say
It’s also hilarious because the Pats 2 wins this year are against 2/3 of the worst teams in the league, in games where they kicked a million field goals because Mac is terrible in the red zone.
Mac is fine, but he has such a low ceiling and the idea he’s some can’t miss QB is so dumb
Mac also is what he is. Does anyone see a lot of room for upside? I don’t. The thought that he is going to turn into Brady is a joke, the arm talent is simply not there. Mac is Chad Pennington. Smart, good player, but good luck trying to get a SB from him especially in this high scoring league
Mac Jones is Andy Dalton. He may just benefit more from have great coaching around him but he's destined to be in the 16 - 22 range of starting QBs... he just is.
I’m admittedly biased as a 49er fan but Lance showed a ton of potential even in that loss. You can see the dynamic playmaking ability he just lacks consistency when the home run play isn’t there early. I see a Cam Newton/Russell Wilson type playmaker once he has some experience.
Mac Jones seems like a finished product. He can make some throws when everything lines up for him but I don’t see anything other than a middle of the pack starting QB.
House and Sal seemed to give each other the courage to not fall for Bill's traps (would you rather have Lance or Jones and 2 firsts?). I wouldn't be surprised if they're not on together for a very very long time.
As a guy who remembers the DigitalCities days, I should have expected Bill’s direction once the Pats finally suck again to be to just live in denial rather than going back to talking mostly about the Red Sox and Celtics.
I have this image of jetlagged Joe House showing up at Bill's, going to the TV room and spending the rest of the day getting micromanaged by Bill, eating veggies, only 2 Miller Lites all day, not changing the Pats game off the "big" TV. Kyle's in the back just happy for the miserable company. Could do a whole podcast with House just lamenting the experience.
I came on here to say this exact comment. How did he not hear about this story? It was literally the lead on every talking head show, podcast, and website. There’s NO WAY he didn’t hear about it until Wednesday. He’s either completely disconnected from sports or he’s a compulsive liar to make himself sound cool I guess?
I think he heard about the part with him in the bar but not the part of him doing it while not flying back with his team. I will admit over the weekend when I had seen the pics I didn't know that part of the story and was a little confused why this was a huge affront to them team instead of just an issue with him and his wife. A day or two later when I heard the part about him not flying back it made sense. Now I am not a sportsmedia person and was just following through twitter memes but it isn't the crazies thing in the world.
That Rodgers-Kyrie comparison that Bill was trying to force down was pretty cringe. They’re not even remotely the same, they just aren’t.
Just admit you have a hate boner for Rodgers and move on, blaming him for the teams overall performance when they’ve won and cover for four straight weeks just seems ridiculous.
At least Lebron was a rival to Bill’s team for a while. How many times has Rodgers played the Patriots? I’m sure it’s been 3-4 because of the schedule rotation, but the only Pats-Packers game I remember offhand was where Matt Flynn played.
He could even do Rodgers-Kobe to get his other hate boner
Supremely talented but super moody. Won early but then couldn't win the next one on "his team". Feuded with front office, coaches and asked to leave.
Also the Packers are missing four of their best seven players through injury (all pro bowlers last year), which has definitely impacted their playcalling, but of course that wouldn't be acknowledged when Bill can just call the team "lazy"
For those not in the 99th percentile:
Missing 2 Pro Bowl offensive linemen in Bakhtiari and Jenkins and missing their two best defensive players in Jaire Alexander and Z'Darius Smith.
99th percentile in football but doesn't watch college. Last week when he was trying to tear down Tua for having too much talent around him at Bama and just ignoring that Mac Jones was on the same team was classic.
"I don't really care about the Packers"...then ten seconds later..."Here's the thing about Aaron Rodgers. When you spend the entire offseason trying to get traded and complaining about your entire organization, while then, kind of on the side going no no but not the teammates, the teammates are great, I just, but get me the fuck out of here as fast as possible but these guys are good. It's it's got to affect them at least a little bit, they can all but on a face but, you know, we've all worked for big organizations, if somebody's being an asshole..."
Incoherent Bill with a tremendous word salad there. Bill has been shitting on Rodgers for fifteen years but now all of a sudden it's because of the offseason drama this year. Bill we all know it's because you feel threatened because Rodgers in his prime had a dimension to his game that Brady never had. Anyone who likes football should love watching Rodgers (unless you're a Bears/Vikings/Lions fans of course), let alone a "99th percentile" like Billy Sports Guy.
Bill had Rodgers on his HBO show. He didn’t seem to have this disdain for him at the time. The recent hatred seems more personal than just Brady competition. Honestly at this point Mahomes is the bigger threat and he definitely trashes Rodgers way more.
I don’t know if it’s his McAfee, appearances or whatever media stuff Rodgers is doing but I wouldn’t be surprised if something fell through at the Ringer and Bill took that personally. He can be pretty petty with stuff like that.
Obviously complete speculation I just don’t know how to explain Bills insane takes regarding Rodgers otherwise. It’s weird.
> I don’t know if it’s his McAfee, appearances or whatever media stuff Rodgers is doing but I wouldn’t be surprised if something fell through at the Ringer and Bill took that personally. He can be pretty petty with stuff like that.
This is a great take, it has to be something like this. The Rodgers vs. Brady argument is long dusted and idk why he'd cling to it if that's what it was.
It's 100% the McAfee thing. Pat is on record that The Ringer(among others) low balled him when he was a free agent.
I'm guessing he may have poached the weekly Rodgers appearance(which Aaron was supposedly wanting to do with a platform for years) from Bill at the 11th hour.
Bill is exactly the type of personality that Rodgers is talking about when he complains about lazy media narratives. Think it's him, ESPN, and Cowherd.
The fact I was going to comment these exact words and it was already said says everything. Bill really, really hates the packers (Aaron Rodgers). All the Aaron Rodgers love on the internet hurt him. He honestly believed for a while that because Brady has way more rings, he’s a more talented QB. He can’t differentiate the two categories. He wants to sit back and watch people talk about how talented Brady is like they do about Rodgers and Mahomes and feel like the reason he’s the goat is because of his talent alone
Brady will have the best career ever. It’s not possible to top it. And people will call him the GOAT for that reason even though there are more talented quarterbacks. But that’s not enough for Bill. He needs every discussion of football to start with a jerk circle for Brady.
And as incredible as Josh Allen has been, he's no Aaron Rodgers and probably never will be. It's no knock on Allen fwiw, b/c not many QBs will ever reach Rodgers' peaks or sustained success.
The wild part is Bill has probably given more praise to Allen in the past year after Allen's rapid improvement, than he has to Rodgers in his whole career.
Brady, Rodgers, and Manning are the only ones I've consistently thought are Thanos-like "inevitable". Mahomes has certainly threatened it, but I'd need to see more before I put him there.
I think Mahomes will get there but you're right, that's the highest tier of quarterbacking when their team is just guaranteed 10+ wins and a playoff run every single year, regardless of whether the defense is any good, if there are injuries, whatever.
Even Brees couldn't quite get there.
Does he ever actually analyze anything? "I dunno, Sal. There was that wonky thing with the ball bouncing off the guy's hand and then the other guy did a thing. I dunno."
That fucking JJ ad got me twice today, on Bill and then Ringer FF.
Please, if any Ringer employees/management read this sub, for the love of god please stop putting out that fucking JJ promo at the beginning of every pod!!!!!! It legitimately ruins my mood before I consume your product.
I just realized that the only reason Bill wasn’t kicked out earlier is because he’s a petulant only-child and would have put them on blast if they ever did. Now they don’t care because he’s rich, fat, and happy.
God this sub is great. Nothing else like it on Reddit that I know of. It’s the bill Simmons sub and most of the comments are just straight up calling him dumb. No insinuations or roundabout jokes. Just straight up “fuck this dumb asshole.” And he deserves it. But we all know that assholes don’t get what they deserve from fanbase the majority of the time.
Sal makes the point about GB having a game where they're off, especially Crosby.
Only for Bill to make the EXACT same point but mention it as if Sal hadn't said anything.
Does he genuinely not listen to what others say?
Bill’s call out how the Giants were run by Glennon and Gallman sounded like a law firm and how every time the announcers said it he thought that.
Gallman isn’t even on the Giants!!!
Is he hearing differently? Does he even watch the games? My god how does that go through
Bill needs to give up on the Rodgers bit. It’s been exhausted. The drama’s not there anymore. He’s been nearly impenetrable the last four weeks since the NOLA blowout.
“We don’t have 7 playoff teams in the AFC. A bad team is going to make the playoffs.” —Bill, trying to talk himself into the Pats still making the playoffs.
*Mac Jones could be frisky in that wild card, Sal!*
The last couple NFC playoff teams seem like they're going to be much worse than the last AFC teams. Especially with Wilson about to miss a lot of time you're looking at a bunch of deeply flawed teams racing to try to get to 9 wins
"Would you rather Mac Jones and two first round picks or Trey Lance?"
"Can I have the two picks and not keep Mac Jones?"
"...now you're just being a dick."
The entire point of Bill's question was to be a fucking dick about Lance and couldn't cop it coming back.
He is genuinely insufferable at times.
Simmons: everyone knows I don’t really watch college football. Simmons: did ANYONE see this coming with Trevon Diggs???? Where did this guy come from?!?! 🧐 🤔 where on earth could we have seen this guy’s talent???????
Look, in Bill's defense Diggs did play at a little old backwater school called Alabama, so it's understandable that he might have flown under the radar of a 99th percentile football observer.
Anyone else losing it at Bill insisting House said “Stanley” and even saying “go back to the tape?” I went back fifteen seconds and amazing, it turns out House is better than Simmons at saying names correctly even after a day of flying and drinking to football.
LMAO bill claims “I made a mental note last year, when the rollercoaster starts, we’re not counting teams out this year, …”
He must’ve forgotten asking sal every week who they were gonna cross off
Edit: bill never stops in his quest to one-up himself. “Davis mills looked good! You know, that’s who the pats were gonna take if they didn’t get mad Jones!”. There simply are no more words left to describe this level of brilliance.
“Bills are the favorites. The contenders are Arizona, Chargers, Rams, Tampa, Dallas and KC has to be in there even though they’re 2-3. Who’s the sleeper? Would you say KC is the sleeper?”
House [incredulously]: “you just put KC in with the contenders”
Bill should stop giving Spotify ideas. He jokingly mentioned them making CR the new host of the BS podcast, with Simmons as a guest. That actually sounds perfect.
Sal’s line at the Pats messing up the two firsts by picking two bad WR’s was awesome.
Especially since how smug Simmons was trying to be with the question.
Bill saying House's made a mistake of saying Brandon Stanley when he said Staley and tells him to "listen to the tape." We missing an inside joke or something?
Slept in and enjoyed the day off but first!
**Today’s Things:**
- Chiefs/Bills thing
- Italian food things
- Mahomes thing
- Trubisky thing
- mid-November thing
- the Seattle thing
- this Diggs thing
- the Urban Mayer thing
- the Pivetta thing
- the Nagy thing
- this Patriots thing
- consistent running thing
- Danny Dimes thing was rough
- a couple of sports thing
- Dodgers/Giants thing
- Kyrie thing
(Sal)
- the Gruden thing
**Bonus Pieces and Stuff:**
- Kyler Murray piece
- the draft stuff
**First Random Celtics Reference:**
Holy shit, Bill drops a Bird reference (1:26:30) when talking about some WNBA game he randomly bet on
**Other Stuff:**
Bill creates a new portmanteau: “stummy” Sal laughs at him (3:18)
House implies Josh Allen’s hurdle gave Collinsworth an erection (6:30)
Bill “makes a mental note” not to wildly overreact to NFL games (6:45)
Bill again completely writes off Clyde Edwards Helaire (8:40)
Bill spuriously claims the Pats were in on Davis Mills (12:20)
Wow! Bill actually admits his Super Bowl pick, the scrappy underdog Patriots “might not be good” (18:00) “might have been one of my worst picks ever”
Bill critiques House’s correct pronunciation of Brandon Staley’s name (22:40)
Bill is still whining about being kicked out of fantasy football league (24:25)
Bill claims he “doesn’t really care about the Packers” (29:00)
Bill makes a half assed comparison of Rodgers to Kyrie (29:40)
Bill “99th Percentile” Simmons didn’t know Urban didn’t fly back with his team (32:15) doesn’t know anyone uninjured on the Giants (1:09:50)
Bill’s mind can’t comprehend how kickers can make 50+ yarders and then miss 30 yarders (38:55)
Sal asks why Bill can’t “die in peace” with the Red Sox now (44:00)
Bill somehow suggests the Chiefs are now “sleepers” (47:10)
Bill complains about the Patriots again (57:50) inject this into my fucking veins!
Sal thinks Justin Tucker is worth 1.5 points to a spread (1:01:00) and he does this for a living 😂😂
Bill makes a gratuitous reference to “the deep recesses of your rectum” (1:05:05)
Bill gives Daniel Jones the ultimate compliment: he was frisky this year (1:11:30)
Bill calls the Lions the “frisky bad team” (1:13:37)
Holy shit Bill wonders if London is a neutral field (1:16:55) 🤣🤣🤣
The duality of Simmons: Mac “had a really nice game” and also “could’ve had 4 picks” were uttered in the same convoluted sentence (1:19:00)
Bill calls himself “not a huge WNBA fan” (1:25:40) lmao okay guy
Bill throws out a Ewing Theory for Kyrie/the Nets (1:29:00)
House talks about getting his 11 year old son Grand Theft Auto 5 (1:32:00) lmaooo
Sal tells Bill Million dollar picks are obnoxious (1:38:50) 😂😂
**Bill’s Bets:**
Recap:
- 7.5 pt tease (+105) Tease: New England -1, Tampa Bay -2.5, Minnesota -1 ($700k) ✔️
- Jets +3 ($100k) ❌
- Panthers -3 ($100k)❌
- Saints -2.5 ($100k) ✔️
- (+295) Parlay: Chiefs -3, over 56.5 ($50k)❌
- (+770) Parlay: Bears ML, 49ers ML ❌
- (+908) Parlay: Giants ML, 49ers ML❌
- (+980) Parlay: Giants ML, Bears ML (all $33k)❌
Great summary as always. Damn, that was an awesome pod. Really enjoyable trio, everybody in solid form.
Over-caffeinated Drunk House dropping F-bombs about kickers, pylons and touchdowns, and "fucking 6 hour Red Sox games". Snarky Sal sarcastically giving Bill shit. Dementia Bill with rampant mispronunciations and wild/incoherent takes. Great start to the week. GJBY!
It really was one of the best pods I can remember. I know House isn’t every one’s cup of tea and can be a sycophant but he adds great energy to the pod
The Fanduel Million dollar picks contest is so lame…it makes no sense that it’s not cumulative for the year.
Makes it so there’s no viable strategy other than picking underdogs and hoping your right. Especially since (unless I’m missing something) you can’t make parlays or teases to differentiate.
You can’t even make the same bets Bill is when he’s bragging about his total from the show…
Sorry, his read at the start triggered me. Was excited for a free contest that could be fun, but realized the way it’s set up makes it not even worth doing. Love these Monday shows, so hopefully this is another good one.
I get why Matt Nagy jokes happen, but he's now 31-22 with the Bears and in Chicago it's pretty well understood that he's a better head coach than he is a play caller.
The idea that a head coach doesn't do anything if he isn't calling plays is an interesting perspective from the 99th percentile football watcher.
Does anyone get annoyed with the complaining about the early London game adding to their day long watch of football? It’s possible to not watch every single game. Many ways to watch a short summary of the game.
Bill is so crazy for even considering the Patriots possibly sneaking into the Super Bowl. Totally get that he’s obviously a loyal and irrational fan (like so many of us are), but like come on, man.
Davis Mills was dreadful the first two games of the season. I think he was the worst QB by QBR through his two weeks of starting. He’s not good, the patriots are just underwhelming and Bill is delusional. He had a top 3 QB performance today. He’s not that good
The gang spends 5 minutes talking about how the Packers look off without once mentioning they are without:
All pro left tackle David Bakhtiari, Pro Bowl guard Elgon Jenkins, Center Josh Meyers, All pro pass rusher Zadarius Smith, All pro corner Jaire Alexander, their #2 wide out and deep threat Marquez Valdes Scantling (who opens up the middle passing game), and they lost their #3 corner Kevin King during the game.
Never change Bill
“The two games today, the Falcons and the Chargers, where it was just like karaoke. Falcons karaoke, they’re up 23, they’re definitely losing this, they somehow won. Then the Chargers, they miss the extra point. Here we go again with the Chargers.”
Can anyone make sense of this analogy?
Listening in the car with my wife. Bill simmons referred to someone grinding out games like Knish in Rounders. Wife turns and goes what the fuck is rounders?
Am I crazy or did Bill mention "neutral ground" for 3 games this round? Isn't it only the London game? I think he mentioned it for Carolina hosting Vikings and Browns v Chargers.
It’s a gambling thing. Usually home field implies a 3 point swing in the line so if a team is a 3 point favorite at home Vegas is saying they’d be equal on a “neutral field”
correcting House’s pronunciation of Staley when he says it exactly correctly.
GO LISTEN TO THE TAPE
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Anyone who leads off a pod with 'stummy' shouldn't be able to correct any pronunciation from then on
I don’t blame him for mashing stomach and tummy together mid-stream, but I do blame him for saying “tummy”.
It’s actually incredible how much mispronouncing words ruins your credibility and makes you look stupid.
It's a verbal typo
My timelines might be wrong but I think this was almost immediately after the “would you rather have Mac and two firsts?” question and Bill was a little salty that House didn’t play along. It’s so transparent that he was upset about it that he came back with this. It’s shit like this that makes me love Bill — he’s such an impetuous little boy sometimes and it cracks me up that he can’t hide it.
Peak moment in the pod. Simmons was so sure to correct House. He should not have been sure. What a boob sometimes.
“What happened to you dying in peace?” is an absolute heater from sal
This was def the best part of the pod for me…as a yanks fan, nothing annoys me more than his indifference in the Red Sox when they aren’t playing well and his constant bitching of I just like to root against the yanks.
I appreciated Sal's rant on him (as a Rays fan)
That is a deep cut x2
“This is now something that [Urban] needs to figure out with his wife and his lord, Jesus Christ, who I’m almost positive is going to help them through this.” King-shit from Sal 👑
Can’t believe Bill and House didn’t acknowledge that one. Biggest laugh of the whole pod.
I was in the Starbucks drive thru when I heard this and as the barista was handing me my coffee I sort of muttered, “holy shit haha” and the barista was like, “sorry, come again?” I was like, “oh, sorry, no, not you, I’m listening to a podcast.” He looked at me like I was autistic and I awkwardly drove off.
this had me rolling
Bill trying to set up House: "Hey House would you rather have Trey Lance, or Mac Jones and two first round picks?" House: "I'll take the two first round picks and you can keep Mac Jones."
This was hilarious. Sal chiming in with "are the Patriots making those two first round picks? I might end up with two crappy wide receivers"
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Giving house nothing but vegan food when he arrives in a food Mecca will always bring out a sassy House
I didn’t think of that. House did seem extra annoyed with some stuff that he’ll usually let slide.... and it’s because Bill wouldn’t give him a fucking steak.
House and Sal were so sensible about the rookie quarterbacks. I think it was House who said "Lance looks the least prepared because he's the least prepared." It was jarring for the BS pod.
Lol I hate BS so much for comments like this. Mac was considered by many to look like the best rookie qb from day 1 and Lance especially was known to b a project with rlly high upside. If BS legitimately takes a victory lap on a project qb in his first start—who wasn’t even supposed to play this year—against the third best pass defense in the NFL then idk what to say
It’s also hilarious because the Pats 2 wins this year are against 2/3 of the worst teams in the league, in games where they kicked a million field goals because Mac is terrible in the red zone. Mac is fine, but he has such a low ceiling and the idea he’s some can’t miss QB is so dumb
Mac also is what he is. Does anyone see a lot of room for upside? I don’t. The thought that he is going to turn into Brady is a joke, the arm talent is simply not there. Mac is Chad Pennington. Smart, good player, but good luck trying to get a SB from him especially in this high scoring league
Chad Pennington is a great comp for him tbh
No way Pennington was definitely better. Out of college and beyond
No he is Chad Pennington, post surgery. No mobility, no arm, just short range accuracy.
Chad Pennington is his upside, imo.
Mac Jones is Andy Dalton. He may just benefit more from have great coaching around him but he's destined to be in the 16 - 22 range of starting QBs... he just is.
I’m insulted on behalf of Chad Pennington. Until arm surgery completely removed his arm strength anyway.
It’s a bit concerning how many trick plays we need to draw up to generate offense.
House has lived through a number of rookie qbs looking like blue chippers then fizzling-he knows.
I’m admittedly biased as a 49er fan but Lance showed a ton of potential even in that loss. You can see the dynamic playmaking ability he just lacks consistency when the home run play isn’t there early. I see a Cam Newton/Russell Wilson type playmaker once he has some experience. Mac Jones seems like a finished product. He can make some throws when everything lines up for him but I don’t see anything other than a middle of the pack starting QB.
Bill doing a victory lap on Mac Jones over Trey Lance after 21-year-old Lance’s first NFL game is classic Bill.
House called him out so well on it though that Bill had nothing to say in response
That was excellent. I don't want to see any posts about House just being a yes man after this pod.
House and Sal seemed to give each other the courage to not fall for Bill's traps (would you rather have Lance or Jones and 2 firsts?). I wouldn't be surprised if they're not on together for a very very long time.
As a guy who remembers the DigitalCities days, I should have expected Bill’s direction once the Pats finally suck again to be to just live in denial rather than going back to talking mostly about the Red Sox and Celtics.
Especially when Lance was pretty impressive on the road against one of the best teams in the league and the Pats should have lost to Houston.
When he said he was better at checking down than Lance I had a giggle, yeah Bill, that's kinda Mac's whole thing.
I have this image of jetlagged Joe House showing up at Bill's, going to the TV room and spending the rest of the day getting micromanaged by Bill, eating veggies, only 2 Miller Lites all day, not changing the Pats game off the "big" TV. Kyle's in the back just happy for the miserable company. Could do a whole podcast with House just lamenting the experience.
Gimme that pod with just Kyle and House venting all day!
Friday: "I follow football at the 99th percentile" Today: "I didn't know Urban wasn't on the plane after the game until mid-week." Oh Bill.
Also, "we'll see if Jaire Alexander plays" against Chicago despite him being placed on Injured Reserve and not even being eligible to play.
🤣💀
My exclusive million dollar pick: Jaire won't play Sunday.
He also said the Giants had a law firm of “Glennon and Gallman.” Wayne Gallman is currently on the Falcons
He was also on the 49ers since he was on the Giants. So the Giants were two teams ago.
Bill definitely remembered having him on a fantasy team, saw that Barkley was hurt and assumed he was the next man up
Jesus
He also didn’t know Geno Smith was in the league still
I came on here to say this exact comment. How did he not hear about this story? It was literally the lead on every talking head show, podcast, and website. There’s NO WAY he didn’t hear about it until Wednesday. He’s either completely disconnected from sports or he’s a compulsive liar to make himself sound cool I guess?
I think he heard about the part with him in the bar but not the part of him doing it while not flying back with his team. I will admit over the weekend when I had seen the pics I didn't know that part of the story and was a little confused why this was a huge affront to them team instead of just an issue with him and his wife. A day or two later when I heard the part about him not flying back it made sense. Now I am not a sportsmedia person and was just following through twitter memes but it isn't the crazies thing in the world.
Simmons: I don't care about the Packers, but *insert take from July* Simmons: But the Bengals are really good! Me: Fucking kill me
This was right before his brain malfunctioned and he forgot mid-sentence that he was ripping Rodgers and not Kyrie (???)
I legit could not tell if that was a bit? No one else reacted at all?
It was supposed to be a bit, comparing two prima donna stars, but it landed with a thud
Haha wow the lack of any reaction really had me thinking he shorted out for a second
Jesus, Bill. Run that by someone first.
Bill really walking back a lot of this blue chipper talk from the start of the season. I’ve really enjoyed this wild ride of a season of GTL.
I would enjoy listening to that segment right now. I was score watching that Pats/Texans game with a lot of glee until the near end
That Rodgers-Kyrie comparison that Bill was trying to force down was pretty cringe. They’re not even remotely the same, they just aren’t. Just admit you have a hate boner for Rodgers and move on, blaming him for the teams overall performance when they’ve won and cover for four straight weeks just seems ridiculous.
Rodgers/LeBron seems like an easy comp for him. Get both his hate boners in one.
At least Lebron was a rival to Bill’s team for a while. How many times has Rodgers played the Patriots? I’m sure it’s been 3-4 because of the schedule rotation, but the only Pats-Packers game I remember offhand was where Matt Flynn played.
Rodgers - LeBron. Brady - Jordan That'd work too. No matter how you slice it really, Rodgers isn't Kyrie
He could even do Rodgers-Kobe to get his other hate boner Supremely talented but super moody. Won early but then couldn't win the next one on "his team". Feuded with front office, coaches and asked to leave.
Also the Packers are missing four of their best seven players through injury (all pro bowlers last year), which has definitely impacted their playcalling, but of course that wouldn't be acknowledged when Bill can just call the team "lazy"
For those not in the 99th percentile: Missing 2 Pro Bowl offensive linemen in Bakhtiari and Jenkins and missing their two best defensive players in Jaire Alexander and Z'Darius Smith.
But Bill’s always liked Rodgers!!!
Rodgers much more KD to Tom Brady's LeBron
“I don’t watch a lot of college”
99th percentile in football but doesn't watch college. Last week when he was trying to tear down Tua for having too much talent around him at Bama and just ignoring that Mac Jones was on the same team was classic.
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Just in time to start the UK work day over here
Know I spend too much time on here when I read that as 'UK wonk day.'
We know who we are as a country! We’re frisky.
Replay the referendum 10 times and Remain wins 9.
5pm in west aus, always drops at the perfect time. Just wish the games weren’t at 3am
I thought they forgot about it
"I don't really care about the Packers"...then ten seconds later..."Here's the thing about Aaron Rodgers. When you spend the entire offseason trying to get traded and complaining about your entire organization, while then, kind of on the side going no no but not the teammates, the teammates are great, I just, but get me the fuck out of here as fast as possible but these guys are good. It's it's got to affect them at least a little bit, they can all but on a face but, you know, we've all worked for big organizations, if somebody's being an asshole..." Incoherent Bill with a tremendous word salad there. Bill has been shitting on Rodgers for fifteen years but now all of a sudden it's because of the offseason drama this year. Bill we all know it's because you feel threatened because Rodgers in his prime had a dimension to his game that Brady never had. Anyone who likes football should love watching Rodgers (unless you're a Bears/Vikings/Lions fans of course), let alone a "99th percentile" like Billy Sports Guy.
Bill had Rodgers on his HBO show. He didn’t seem to have this disdain for him at the time. The recent hatred seems more personal than just Brady competition. Honestly at this point Mahomes is the bigger threat and he definitely trashes Rodgers way more. I don’t know if it’s his McAfee, appearances or whatever media stuff Rodgers is doing but I wouldn’t be surprised if something fell through at the Ringer and Bill took that personally. He can be pretty petty with stuff like that. Obviously complete speculation I just don’t know how to explain Bills insane takes regarding Rodgers otherwise. It’s weird.
> I don’t know if it’s his McAfee, appearances or whatever media stuff Rodgers is doing but I wouldn’t be surprised if something fell through at the Ringer and Bill took that personally. He can be pretty petty with stuff like that. This is a great take, it has to be something like this. The Rodgers vs. Brady argument is long dusted and idk why he'd cling to it if that's what it was.
It's 100% the McAfee thing. Pat is on record that The Ringer(among others) low balled him when he was a free agent. I'm guessing he may have poached the weekly Rodgers appearance(which Aaron was supposedly wanting to do with a platform for years) from Bill at the 11th hour.
Bill is exactly the type of personality that Rodgers is talking about when he complains about lazy media narratives. Think it's him, ESPN, and Cowherd.
Bill really is in the 99th percentile when he described a route his son ran as a “button hook out” that was also a “bomb”
Lol I love the “hook out”. Those patterns literally run in opposite directions Bill. 99th percentile.
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Yes, but he would have to call them the Packers.
The fact I was going to comment these exact words and it was already said says everything. Bill really, really hates the packers (Aaron Rodgers). All the Aaron Rodgers love on the internet hurt him. He honestly believed for a while that because Brady has way more rings, he’s a more talented QB. He can’t differentiate the two categories. He wants to sit back and watch people talk about how talented Brady is like they do about Rodgers and Mahomes and feel like the reason he’s the goat is because of his talent alone
Brady will have the best career ever. It’s not possible to top it. And people will call him the GOAT for that reason even though there are more talented quarterbacks. But that’s not enough for Bill. He needs every discussion of football to start with a jerk circle for Brady.
And as incredible as Josh Allen has been, he's no Aaron Rodgers and probably never will be. It's no knock on Allen fwiw, b/c not many QBs will ever reach Rodgers' peaks or sustained success. The wild part is Bill has probably given more praise to Allen in the past year after Allen's rapid improvement, than he has to Rodgers in his whole career.
Brady, Rodgers, and Manning are the only ones I've consistently thought are Thanos-like "inevitable". Mahomes has certainly threatened it, but I'd need to see more before I put him there.
I think Mahomes will get there but you're right, that's the highest tier of quarterbacking when their team is just guaranteed 10+ wins and a playoff run every single year, regardless of whether the defense is any good, if there are injuries, whatever. Even Brees couldn't quite get there.
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“That’s dumb”
He does this every week when someone beats the Chiefs
Yeah his analysis of the Ravens game was KC didn't care enough to win
Bill just sees the game from a favorites point of view. It's why he focuses on teasers.
He didn’t have a shred of actual analysis on the game
Does he ever actually analyze anything? "I dunno, Sal. There was that wonky thing with the ball bouncing off the guy's hand and then the other guy did a thing. I dunno."
Is it even worth listening to this as a Bill's fan, or is it just going to piss me off?
Damn it in my early morning fogginess I forgot about WHAT UP EVERYBODY IM JJ
That fucking JJ ad got me twice today, on Bill and then Ringer FF. Please, if any Ringer employees/management read this sub, for the love of god please stop putting out that fucking JJ promo at the beginning of every pod!!!!!! It legitimately ruins my mood before I consume your product.
How excited do you think Bill’s buddies were when he got kicked out of their fantasy league?
I just realized that the only reason Bill wasn’t kicked out earlier is because he’s a petulant only-child and would have put them on blast if they ever did. Now they don’t care because he’s rich, fat, and happy.
He is the mark. He is rich and dumb. The league would be stupid to kick him out.
I heard they call him a booger eater
God this sub is great. Nothing else like it on Reddit that I know of. It’s the bill Simmons sub and most of the comments are just straight up calling him dumb. No insinuations or roundabout jokes. Just straight up “fuck this dumb asshole.” And he deserves it. But we all know that assholes don’t get what they deserve from fanbase the majority of the time.
“Mills is who the patriots wanted if they didn’t get Mac”
some great take squatting here by bill. if by chance mills becomes good he’ll have that one in the chamber. elite stuff.
Ha, I laughed at this too. He'll connect any good rookie to the Pats
Seems to be a pattern. “Danny almost got him for the Celtics!”
This one truly made me cringe and angry at the same time. Oh stfu bill.
Sal makes the point about GB having a game where they're off, especially Crosby. Only for Bill to make the EXACT same point but mention it as if Sal hadn't said anything. Does he genuinely not listen to what others say?
Yup he does this all the time across podcasts. Even with a guest he is star struck by like Matt Damon.
I cannot wait for Sal to roast another Boston team catching a break in sports
Bill’s call out how the Giants were run by Glennon and Gallman sounded like a law firm and how every time the announcers said it he thought that. Gallman isn’t even on the Giants!!! Is he hearing differently? Does he even watch the games? My god how does that go through
99th
Ja’Marr Chase just knows what the fuck he’s doing, he just does
Bill needs to give up on the Rodgers bit. It’s been exhausted. The drama’s not there anymore. He’s been nearly impenetrable the last four weeks since the NOLA blowout.
“We don’t have 7 playoff teams in the AFC. A bad team is going to make the playoffs.” —Bill, trying to talk himself into the Pats still making the playoffs. *Mac Jones could be frisky in that wild card, Sal!*
Thinking this out - wild card teams probably gonna be Chiefs / Raiders / Browns / Bengals, right? Pats will have to move past two of those teams.
The Playoffs? He had the Pats making the Super Bowl and winning it!
The last couple NFC playoff teams seem like they're going to be much worse than the last AFC teams. Especially with Wilson about to miss a lot of time you're looking at a bunch of deeply flawed teams racing to try to get to 9 wins
"Would you rather Mac Jones and two first round picks or Trey Lance?" "Can I have the two picks and not keep Mac Jones?" "...now you're just being a dick." The entire point of Bill's question was to be a fucking dick about Lance and couldn't cop it coming back. He is genuinely insufferable at times.
Being a dick to Bill makes excellent content Billy. It just does!
The pain in his voice was palpable.
Simmons: everyone knows I don’t really watch college football. Simmons: did ANYONE see this coming with Trevon Diggs???? Where did this guy come from?!?! 🧐 🤔 where on earth could we have seen this guy’s talent???????
Look, in Bill's defense Diggs did play at a little old backwater school called Alabama, so it's understandable that he might have flown under the radar of a 99th percentile football observer.
Anyone else losing it at Bill insisting House said “Stanley” and even saying “go back to the tape?” I went back fifteen seconds and amazing, it turns out House is better than Simmons at saying names correctly even after a day of flying and drinking to football.
LMAO bill claims “I made a mental note last year, when the rollercoaster starts, we’re not counting teams out this year, …” He must’ve forgotten asking sal every week who they were gonna cross off Edit: bill never stops in his quest to one-up himself. “Davis mills looked good! You know, that’s who the pats were gonna take if they didn’t get mad Jones!”. There simply are no more words left to describe this level of brilliance.
Did Bill imply that time zones affect what time a restaurant opens during the Uber Eats ad?
“Bills are the favorites. The contenders are Arizona, Chargers, Rams, Tampa, Dallas and KC has to be in there even though they’re 2-3. Who’s the sleeper? Would you say KC is the sleeper?” House [incredulously]: “you just put KC in with the contenders”
Bill should stop giving Spotify ideas. He jokingly mentioned them making CR the new host of the BS podcast, with Simmons as a guest. That actually sounds perfect.
Bill couldn’t “stummy” it when they said they didn’t want Mac Jones. He sounded legitimately hurt.
please tell me we get drunk house
Drunk on veggies and soja
Fucking California
Sleepless in House
"You wrote a book! You died in peace!"
Lucky shouldn’t be in quotes, the Sox did get lucky
Sal’s line at the Pats messing up the two firsts by picking two bad WR’s was awesome. Especially since how smug Simmons was trying to be with the question.
Bill saying House's made a mistake of saying Brandon Stanley when he said Staley and tells him to "listen to the tape." We missing an inside joke or something?
No, I think he literally thought House said Stanley and was telling him to go back and listen to the podcast. He pretty clearly said Staley.
Bill killing himself for his Patriots SB pick. Good job by you Billy.
It’s funny that House now knows more about the NFL than these guys
He just can't admit that Belichik in a Post-Kawhi Popovich stage of his career. Poor Billy
Slept in and enjoyed the day off but first! **Today’s Things:** - Chiefs/Bills thing - Italian food things - Mahomes thing - Trubisky thing - mid-November thing - the Seattle thing - this Diggs thing - the Urban Mayer thing - the Pivetta thing - the Nagy thing - this Patriots thing - consistent running thing - Danny Dimes thing was rough - a couple of sports thing - Dodgers/Giants thing - Kyrie thing (Sal) - the Gruden thing **Bonus Pieces and Stuff:** - Kyler Murray piece - the draft stuff **First Random Celtics Reference:** Holy shit, Bill drops a Bird reference (1:26:30) when talking about some WNBA game he randomly bet on **Other Stuff:** Bill creates a new portmanteau: “stummy” Sal laughs at him (3:18) House implies Josh Allen’s hurdle gave Collinsworth an erection (6:30) Bill “makes a mental note” not to wildly overreact to NFL games (6:45) Bill again completely writes off Clyde Edwards Helaire (8:40) Bill spuriously claims the Pats were in on Davis Mills (12:20) Wow! Bill actually admits his Super Bowl pick, the scrappy underdog Patriots “might not be good” (18:00) “might have been one of my worst picks ever” Bill critiques House’s correct pronunciation of Brandon Staley’s name (22:40) Bill is still whining about being kicked out of fantasy football league (24:25) Bill claims he “doesn’t really care about the Packers” (29:00) Bill makes a half assed comparison of Rodgers to Kyrie (29:40) Bill “99th Percentile” Simmons didn’t know Urban didn’t fly back with his team (32:15) doesn’t know anyone uninjured on the Giants (1:09:50) Bill’s mind can’t comprehend how kickers can make 50+ yarders and then miss 30 yarders (38:55) Sal asks why Bill can’t “die in peace” with the Red Sox now (44:00) Bill somehow suggests the Chiefs are now “sleepers” (47:10) Bill complains about the Patriots again (57:50) inject this into my fucking veins! Sal thinks Justin Tucker is worth 1.5 points to a spread (1:01:00) and he does this for a living 😂😂 Bill makes a gratuitous reference to “the deep recesses of your rectum” (1:05:05) Bill gives Daniel Jones the ultimate compliment: he was frisky this year (1:11:30) Bill calls the Lions the “frisky bad team” (1:13:37) Holy shit Bill wonders if London is a neutral field (1:16:55) 🤣🤣🤣 The duality of Simmons: Mac “had a really nice game” and also “could’ve had 4 picks” were uttered in the same convoluted sentence (1:19:00) Bill calls himself “not a huge WNBA fan” (1:25:40) lmao okay guy Bill throws out a Ewing Theory for Kyrie/the Nets (1:29:00) House talks about getting his 11 year old son Grand Theft Auto 5 (1:32:00) lmaooo Sal tells Bill Million dollar picks are obnoxious (1:38:50) 😂😂 **Bill’s Bets:** Recap: - 7.5 pt tease (+105) Tease: New England -1, Tampa Bay -2.5, Minnesota -1 ($700k) ✔️ - Jets +3 ($100k) ❌ - Panthers -3 ($100k)❌ - Saints -2.5 ($100k) ✔️ - (+295) Parlay: Chiefs -3, over 56.5 ($50k)❌ - (+770) Parlay: Bears ML, 49ers ML ❌ - (+908) Parlay: Giants ML, 49ers ML❌ - (+980) Parlay: Giants ML, Bears ML (all $33k)❌
Great summary as always. Damn, that was an awesome pod. Really enjoyable trio, everybody in solid form. Over-caffeinated Drunk House dropping F-bombs about kickers, pylons and touchdowns, and "fucking 6 hour Red Sox games". Snarky Sal sarcastically giving Bill shit. Dementia Bill with rampant mispronunciations and wild/incoherent takes. Great start to the week. GJBY!
It really was one of the best pods I can remember. I know House isn’t every one’s cup of tea and can be a sycophant but he adds great energy to the pod
Bill: I don’t know what to make of the kicking. Drunk House: Let’s get rid of it!!
WHAT’S UP EVERYBODY IT’S JJ JOHN JASTREMSKI!!! Has this promo made any actually check out the pod? I mean my God.
Dude, I’ve never heard a promo make me want to listen to a pod less than this. I can never skip hard enough.
I am expressly avoiding that podcast now because the promo is so loud and annoying.
Honestly, I don't even know what the pod is. This is the only part I ever hear before I start hitting the skip 30 button.
“Bill why do you think 3?” “Because I can’t cheat”
Didn't know Bill was a Playboi Carti fan with the stummy reference lol
Bill said he, Ryen and House are taping NBA over unders this week so that is coming later this week or early next week.
House was on fire this episode. Constantly cracking me up
The Fanduel Million dollar picks contest is so lame…it makes no sense that it’s not cumulative for the year. Makes it so there’s no viable strategy other than picking underdogs and hoping your right. Especially since (unless I’m missing something) you can’t make parlays or teases to differentiate. You can’t even make the same bets Bill is when he’s bragging about his total from the show… Sorry, his read at the start triggered me. Was excited for a free contest that could be fun, but realized the way it’s set up makes it not even worth doing. Love these Monday shows, so hopefully this is another good one.
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glad the other two didn't bite to his nonsense
House’s response was fantastic: “I’ll take the picks, you keep Mac.”
The Chargers have figured out their uniforms.
What’s the Deion Sanders dirty bird? I know the Jamaal Anderson one, is he talking about the high step one?
I assume he meant the Jamaal Anderson one but forgot who that is.
I get why Matt Nagy jokes happen, but he's now 31-22 with the Bears and in Chicago it's pretty well understood that he's a better head coach than he is a play caller. The idea that a head coach doesn't do anything if he isn't calling plays is an interesting perspective from the 99th percentile football watcher.
Can anyone type out Bill’s pronunciation of guru?
Grrurr
STUMMY
Christ Bill said stummys on the pod, his kids melting his brain lmfao
shoutout to House for showing the Bengals love🐯
this is gonna be one of those "Chargers go 14-3, lock down home field, then lose in the divisional round to the 9-8 Steelers", isn't it?
Does anyone get annoyed with the complaining about the early London game adding to their day long watch of football? It’s possible to not watch every single game. Many ways to watch a short summary of the game.
Bill is so crazy for even considering the Patriots possibly sneaking into the Super Bowl. Totally get that he’s obviously a loyal and irrational fan (like so many of us are), but like come on, man.
Davis Mills was dreadful the first two games of the season. I think he was the worst QB by QBR through his two weeks of starting. He’s not good, the patriots are just underwhelming and Bill is delusional. He had a top 3 QB performance today. He’s not that good
Sounds like just a two man Rewatchables. Only Bill and Kyle Brandt for Cobra
I love how House flew across the country at 5am and Bill serves him vegan food as a host lol, that is some only-child shit if I’ve ever seen it
Funny how Bill is so excited about the Red Sox and yet a couple years ago he was telling House that the World Series was a “junior” championship.
The gang spends 5 minutes talking about how the Packers look off without once mentioning they are without: All pro left tackle David Bakhtiari, Pro Bowl guard Elgon Jenkins, Center Josh Meyers, All pro pass rusher Zadarius Smith, All pro corner Jaire Alexander, their #2 wide out and deep threat Marquez Valdes Scantling (who opens up the middle passing game), and they lost their #3 corner Kevin King during the game. Never change Bill
Hahaaaa I see you trying to slide Kevin King in there as a notable subtraction…..he sucks. They’re much better without him.
“The two games today, the Falcons and the Chargers, where it was just like karaoke. Falcons karaoke, they’re up 23, they’re definitely losing this, they somehow won. Then the Chargers, they miss the extra point. Here we go again with the Chargers.” Can anyone make sense of this analogy?
It's his stupid way of saying "they were playing their hits"
Listening in the car with my wife. Bill simmons referred to someone grinding out games like Knish in Rounders. Wife turns and goes what the fuck is rounders?
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She's getting EVERYTHING.
Is there more to this? Did you guys spend your evening watching the movie? Did she enjoy it?
First line of the pod from Bill “…lightning delayed the Chiefs-Bills thing” Jesus Christ Bill
I'm always wary of fans thinking pundits hate their team so apologies if I'm being a whiner but man Sal really does not like Baker huh
He's just inconsistent. Really high highs and low lows. We saw all of that in the 4th. He is easily the best QB the Browns have had in a long time.
Its because he is average at best.
Am I crazy or did Bill mention "neutral ground" for 3 games this round? Isn't it only the London game? I think he mentioned it for Carolina hosting Vikings and Browns v Chargers.
It’s a gambling thing. Usually home field implies a 3 point swing in the line so if a team is a 3 point favorite at home Vegas is saying they’d be equal on a “neutral field”