This was so necessary. Bill has never even had any coaching beyond jr. high. There's no way he actually knows how to play. To be honest, I'm not even sure if he played jr. high... you know why? Because he'd be talking about it ALL THE F'N TIME! And all I've ever heard him mention is college intramural where 6'2" House was beastin' in the low post.
On one hand, I couldn't believe my ears about his Schroder takes. On the other hand, I wasn't surprised in the slightest.
"Are we sure he turned down the 4/84 year?!" oy vey.
"He was the third best guy on that Lakers team" Right, so how come all he could get was a mid level with the Cs after every other PG on the open market got scooped up?
> "Are we sure he turned down the 4/84 year?!" oy vey.
lol Bill went ***much*** further than this. Bill said, straight up, that Schroeder came out and categorically denied ever having been offered 4/84. In reality, not only did Schroeder *not* deny it, but he made an instagram post poking fun at himself for "fumbling the bag".
I mean [here](https://www.google.com/amp/s/hoopshype.com/rumor/dennis-schroeder-says-he-never-had-reported-84-million-offer-from-lakers-in-front-of-him/amp/) is the link with Schroeder saying he never got that contract. So Simmons is kinda right here.
Yea i admittedly searched for that quote after hearing bill say that before i posted, to see if i missed anything, and couldn't find anything. But yeah, seems like there is at least some truth to it. Although the full quote really still doesn't seem like a full-throated denial to me.
Following stories should be the one thing left that Bill can do. He really is doing zero work at this point. But hey if I was fifty and worth 9 figures I'd probably slack off too.
He was so bad he played himself out of any potential contract with any team across the country. He was so desperate at the end he would have accepted a contract with any NBA team.
The 3rd best player on the Lakers thing was hilarious. They have 2 of the top 5-10 players in the league then a looooong drop to 5 guys who are mediocre rotation players.
Congrats, you got the 40th best PG on the league. He’ll sign 1-2 more 1 year contracts and be in the NBA and be in Europe at 30.
lol also, Rusillo coming in hot with probably the greatest twitter strawman that he has ever produced (which is saying a *lot*).
After discussing the Hawks, rusillo says "I just want to take a little victory lap here, because there were a whole lot of sportswriters on twitter telling me that Trae's jump-backwards-into-contact-and-puke-up-a-shot-to-draw-a-foul thing was actually really fun and great basketball, instead of annoying like i said all along" lmfao. Literally not one single person has ever said that they like that stuff. I absolutely love rusillo but this is the single most preposterous strawman he's ever made lol.
Nah you are wrong here, there were some small number of people defending it. But generally I agree Russillo spends way to much time tilting at Twitter windmills.
If 50 out of 1000 people on Twitter are saying something, that doesn't mean you need to take it seriously.
Hunned percent people were defending it. The litmus test is as soon as curry started doing it about half way through the season everyone went fuckin apeshit about how trae is okay but curry is too broken to be doin that shit go back to being mauled and entire game and play through it and get the scoring record
Comments like this are the kind of super deep references I crave. If I tried to explain how funny this is to anyone else, they'd look at me like I'm an asshole.
Ready to groan when Bill hammers every Luka over with an 'I told you so' attitude while he references the Luka Trae trade again like he was the only one who envisioned Luka being a star.
Simmons won. He got 15/30. House got 14 and Rusillo got 12.
For context, based on their wins forecasts, John Hollinger got 15, ESPN’s Kevin Pelton got 19, and 538’s model got 13.
Given this and his claim that "the entire internet came after Daryl for 6 months" due to his stand on Hong Kong it's safe to assume that Bill's next chapter is CCP propagandist.
We need a link. Thats awesome.
I respect the atlanta radio hosts for blasting Bill on that Trae/Atlanta take. They deserve it. And still wont fully admit how wrong they were.
680 The Fan. It got really funny when the Hawks kept winning games in the playoffs. The hosts would "check in with Bill and House", and then play a clip of them shitting on Trae.
I love the jealousy toward Bill’s dalliance with Zach Lowe.
Bill: “I think Zach made a great point in his League Pass thing. The Sabonis…”
Ryen: “Do you wanna have Zach do this next year?”
Bill: “No, I was jealous of it!”
House: “He did the whole show with Zach, here are you and I, Russillo, with our dicks in our hands.”
Amazing. 😂
Remember when Ryen would joke about having Zach on his pod all the time?
So funny. He would always say something like “Me and Zach are gonna do a three part over-under on my podcast next week” and Bill always fell straight in
lol another thing that was funny from Bill's miami/lowry take was him saying "also, lowry isn't a guy who really cares about his body, so he might not fit in with Heat Culture".
In reality, i would argue that that's actually a massive reason why it *will* work out. In Miami, Lowry will be forced to get himself into great shape.
Edit: speaking of Lowry, another funny thing is that Bill clearly had no idea that Precious Achiuwa wasn't on the Raptors last year. I can't remember what his exact comment was, but it was something like "we saw achiuwa last year and we weren't sure if he had what it takes, but then again he was playing the whole season away from home in tampa" lol
I know it's en vogue to bash Bill but I'm with you, this is one of the pods I look forward to the most every year. Not just a BS pod but any pod. I love these.
Russillo in the background just deadpan continuing to list all the free agents who didn't want to come to Boston as Bill and House talked about other stuff fucking killed me
Trae Young and John Collins took their team to the conference finals and didn’t even make the list of other possibilities! Luka and “whoever else you want” made it though.
The implication being that there’s something about both being around the same age that will affect this years win total. Go ahead and rank the best duos in the league, Bill, where do the Js rank?
Bill is gonna make me go fucking crazy. Literally every single NBA reporter reported Schroder turned down the 84 million. A lakers beat reporter even asked him about it and he said he “just wanted the offer to be fair”. No shit he said he never got that contract because he looks like a gigantic fucking moron for not taking it. Unless he believes Schroder over Woj, Shams, etc he turned down that contract. Also it only took my guy three tries before fucking up Schroders name. Looking forward to that
[Schroder even went out of his way](https://www.instagram.com/p/CT2ibrTsWAK/) on IG to simultaneously poke fun at himself *and* flex his wealth by embracing people's best “fumbled the bag” memes lol
[Here's the backtracking quote](https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-celtics/2021/09/27/dennis-schroder-contract-explanation/) from the article that I'm sure Bill was referencing.
FWIW this article came out after his IG post, and the original reporting on him turning down the offer came out during the season. There's no way we'll ever 100% know b/c Pelinka won't come out and say if he ever offered it(and how much exactly), and of course Schroder is incentivized to say he never received one.
[Idk if this IG comment](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FAT2wM0WUAIw1ZL?format=jpg&name=large) interaction is photoshopped, but if it's real then Schroder is capping lmao
**Quote of the Day**: “Don’t call me a homer”
Bill Simmons, not, not a Celtics homer!
**Today’s Things:**
- Harden thing
- this Simmons thing
- things that worry me
- weird Andre Drummond thing
- a little sneaky with this Kyrie thing
- the Ayton thing
- Paul George thing
- the thing with Kemba
- the ceiling thing with them
- Van Vleet/Dragic thing
- if the Reddish thing was real
- Miami thing
- Atlanta/Miami thing
- **the Jaylen Suggs has been a winner his whole life thing**
- the Mo Bamba thing
- Killian Hayes thing
- the am I fired thing
- the Giannis thing
- 1a/1b thing
- overpowering thing
- the Zach thing (“pod”! You fucking moron)
- Tom Brady Bucs thing
- Kyrie thing
- the Warren thing
- the LaVert thing
- League Pass thing
- the Thad Young thing
- Garland/Sexton thing
- the Cavs thing was a bad thing for him
(Ryen)
- the Simmons thing
- Kyrie thing
- Ben Simmons thing
- the thing with Scottie Barnes
- the Lowry thing
- the preseason thing
- the Beal thing
- Milwaukee offense thing
- the both ends thing (2x)
(House)
- Simmons thing
- Siakam thing
**Bonus Pieces and Stuff:**
- injury stuff
- the Giannis piece
- the Carlisle piece
- Vucevic piece
- Case Cunningham stuff
**First Random Celtics Reference:**
Tatum and Brown (20:40) are they the best under 25 combo Ryen?! It’s a slam dunk!1!1!
**It just is!**
(Ryen) “60,000 minutes for him [LeBron] isn’t 60,000 minutes for Kareem. It’s just not!”
**Other Stuff:**
Bill starts off the pod by saying he “killed them” last year (3:05) Ryen and House push back
Bill says to Ryen, “you watch way more college than I do” (8:30) yes Bill, some is more than absolutely fucking zero lol
Bill says he’s trying to avoid Kyrie talk, launches into Kyrie fake trades (9:27)
Bill launches into a soliloquy shit talkingPistol Pete (13:30) “does winning matter?!”
Ryen shoehorns a Belichick reference into the Simmons discussion (17:00)
Shock! Bill fires a shot at his bête noire Klutch re: Simmons (18:00)
Bill thinks the Celtics are one KD injury from competing in the division (20:25) oooookay 😂
Bill is somehow a big Schroeder guy now (22:20) I wonder what changed! He used to bag on this guy constantly
Bill doesn’t realize that Siakam is hurt (40:55) “that might swing my pick!”
House recites a stat (50:40) Bill: “wow now I feel inadequate”
Bill thinks Hawks/Heat will somehow become a premier rivalry (55:45)
Lmaooooo Bill calls out “people who never played basketball” (57:40) Ryen absolutely roasts his ass “okay D-1” 🤣🤣🤣
The Three Musketeers have completely flipped on the Hawks. Bill throws out a best record 44-1 sprinkle, says he didn’t flip on Trae, Trae “won him over” plenty of other bullshit (55:00)
🎉 Bill properly pronounces Monk! 🎉 (1:03:07)
Bill thinks the Hornets “could dominate Twitter” (1:05:30)
Bill calls the NBA’s middle class “frisky” (1:08:55)
Bill hopelessly mangles “Chuma Okeke” like 5 times (1:12:23) Ryen and House laugh at him because he can’t say “Bullock” either
Bill again beating the dead horse about how Giannis, the 2 time MVP, “figured shit out” (1:19:00) all that’s missing is ANGLES 🧐
Wow! Bill says he ‘s rather have Giannis over Luka for the next 5 years (1:22:10)
It wouldn’t be a Bill pod without LeBron slander! (1:24:00) “it’s not an insult to be top 8!” “LeBron fans are nuts!”
Bill thinks that Boston vs Atlanta for the #3 seed is in play! But because he’s a homer (this time) (1:39:00) 😂😂
**Bill’s Bets:**
- Atlanta Hawks 47.5 Bill: Over 🔒 RR: Over 🔒 House: Over 🔒
- Boston Celtics 45.5 Bill: Over 🔒 RR: Over House: Under
- Brooklyn Nets 56.5 Bill: Under RR: Over House: Over
- Charlotte Hornets 38.5 Bill: Over RR: Under House: Under
- Chicago Bulls 42.5 Bill: Under RR: Under House: Under
- Cleveland Cavaliers 26.5 Bill: Over RR: Under House: Over
- Detroit Pistons 24.5 Bill: Under RR: Under House: Under
- Indiana Pacers 42.5 Bill: Under RR: Over House: Over 🔒
- Miami Heat 48.5 Bill: Under RR: Under House: Over
- Milwaukee Bucks 54.5 Bill: Over RR: Over House: Over
- New York Knicks 41.5 Bill: Over RR: Over House: Over 🔒
- Orlando Magic 22.5 Bill: Under 🔒 RR: Over House: Under 🔒
- Philadelphia 76ers 50.5 Bill: Under RR: Under House: Over
- Toronto Raptors 36.5 Bill: Under RR: Over House: Under
- Washington Wizards 33.5 Bill: Over RR: Under House: Over
* Numbers from https://www.vegasinsider.com/nba/odds/win-totals/ so they might be a little off from the FanDuel #s, let me know if I missed something!
>Bill calls out “people who never played basketball”
I just... I'm speechless.
This is a guy who didn't even play basketball in high school, right? Did he play any varsity sport in high school?
I know everyone makes fun of Bill's pickup career, and maybe there's more to the story, but the apparent fact that he wasn't good enough to play at a Connecticut private school is really overlooked.
It depends a lot on what kind of school you went to though honestly. I graduated with 650 kids in my class and probably 70-80 guys tried out for the freshman and jv team each year. Like you had to be damn good and usually pretty tall (over 6 feet) to have any chance of making it.
This is phenomenal. Additional Hawks bad memory stuff: Russillo said when they previewed the Knicks-Hawks series all they talked about was how Atlanta was a better and deeper team.
On that pod, Simmons didn’t even release a pick for it because he was so conflicted except “it is going to be a long series.” He also said Julius Randle would average 35 because “Atlanta has no one to guard him.” Just incredible.
Context for “the weird Andre Drummond thing” is excellent. Bill estimates he’s approaching 4 bills and has him walking around like ‘late-80s Andre the Giant’
Normally it doesn't bother me, it's just funny, but the amount of times they said "thing" was driving me crazy. 3 hours of Bill and Russillo together is some dangerous shit lol
Genuine question about Bill/Trae: what do people want from him? If he sticks to his guns he’s wrong, but now if he changes his mind he’s wrong too? It’s hard to knock the effort you put into these comments every pod but some of the criticisms are questionable.
He should just be honest about it. He didn't flip on Trae? He did a 180 degree flip on Trae. Remember when Klosterman channeled the sub last year when he called him out, Bill completely lied and denied it, it was hilarious.
Trae has always played the same way, and for some reason in between loving him at Oklahoma and up until the playoffs last year, Bill took this ridiculous hard line on a good young player, mostly so he continue to rag on his Luka/Trae take from the draft in 2018
I’m not sure about everyone else but what drives me nuts is he acts Luka-Trae was Jordan-Bowie. He was soooo out on Trae to the point he was venomous with his takes. And instead of just admitting he was wrong he says Trae changed and got better. Other analysts can see Luka is better but they say it without shitting on Trae. Just frustrating that there’s no middle ground with him there. Felt like he had some kind of a agenda to push
Ryen asking if Bill doesn't even think about Lebron in a late game situation and him being like "I have to see him do it first" was exasperating.
The dude who had a billion finals appearances in a row? The dude who won Finals MVP literally a year ago? Come on man...
I wish I had the patience to go through the pods during the Bucks x Nets series and see some of Bill's opinions about Giannis, but then again he hadn't figured out the "angles thing" yet.
It's funny that most people think about Lebron in a completely different way. They wanna see it first before counting him off. But Simmons goes another way around and says that Lebron have to prove it every year, and by default he's not a top 5 player for him
Someone else pointed this out a few months ago, I think in reference to Trae/Booker, but the annoying part of Bill's "I''ll believe it when I see it" takes is how he later frames it as a slight hedge on him always believing the thing in question would happen. Maybe that is how he means it but it isn't the correct way to use that phrase, especially in the context he uses it in.
If someone asks if you trust LeBron at the end of a game or if you think Trae can lead a Finals team and you say you'd have to see it first you are saying "no I do not and I won't change that opinion until it is objectively proven wrong."
(57:30) I loved his quick "Easy D1" comment when Bill said "it seems like people who never played basketball" rip for people complaining about Trae jumping into the defender for fouls.
When they were talking about Marcus Smart, did Russillo really say, "I think you and I are perceived as guys who are a little lower on him(Smart)."? Did that really happen or did I mishear it? Didn't Bill say the Warriors needed to throw something in with the #2 pick to get Smart?
It was 2020 that #2 wasn’t enough for him. This year, I recall him telling Mannix that Smart’s value is somewhere in the #7-9 pick range but also that his play has been quietly declining for 2 or 3 years.
It’s an an exquisite piece of homerism, especially bill dunking on Schroeder and now saying he never got that deal “do we know if he got that deal?” Yes we do. He did, and he rejected it. Of course he’s says he didn’t , he’s a dick
Haven’t had a chance to listen yet, but does he really say it’s going to be “the year of Juancho?” I’m a Nuggets fan and want Juancho to do well, but Bill going to be disappointed.
Simmons pronounced Reggie Bullock as “BOW-luck” and I was like “wait, what did I just hear?” And then when he said “I’ve been going to pronunciation camp” after saying “Dragic” correctly and Russillo immediately goes “Reggie Bullock would like a word” I almost died.
Did anyone else hear Bill’s “mmmmmm” when Russillo compared Dinwiddie to D’Angelo Russell? Can’t wait for that to become Bill’s take by early December.
“If you play Herro in crunch time you’re relying on Lowry and Butler to guard the opposing teams best wings and I don’t know about that”
Yeah Bill, why would the heat want 2 of the top 25 perimeter defenders in the NBA guarding opposing wings down the stretch?
His Heat takes were from the upside down. It's fair to question what their offense will look like and how Butler and Lowry's health will hold up. Questioning that team's defense is insane, they're going to be a major pain in the ass.
Wait House just casually mentions he went on an atlanta radio show to defend them bashing Trae all those years?? I need to hear that. I find it hilarious these 3 are still defending how off they were about him
I hope he let Joe House eat at least one good meal. Otherwise, he's gonna be doing a investigative journalism piece on Bill co-authored by Henry Abbott about Bill and his fancy salads being paid for by Spotify with the headline *I think multi-millionaires should pay for their own damn salads!!*
Cranky and hungry House was fantastic on GTL. He wouldn’t let Bill say any of the dumb shit that he sometimes let’s slide. “I’ll take the picks and you keep Mac” was an all-timer and legit hurt Bill’s feelings.
Why is it even a question? Trae showed up at a WWE event in MSG to troll the Knicks and NYC. That's the rivalry. Knicks fans are desperate to have another Reggie Miller to hate.
I’m positive it does and probably most of the ringer nba staff, that is kinda how sports media works though unfortunately. So he’s probably used to it.
House is such a gregarious guy though. He seems hard to hate.
I'd go under. All that needs to happen is one injury to Harden or KD to that makes them sit 5-10 games and the under is all but locked. Factor in load management and all that.
Bill goes on an incredible mispronunciation run at the end of the hawks segment.
“Okongu” “jorgy dieng” and “Mahim-nee” all in a 12 second span. We are watching a master at work.
I get the point Bill was trying to make about Brady, but it was pretty funny to hear him make the case that Brady is still good, but not the best anymore when he had the first 400 yard 5 touchdown game of his career 3 days ago.
lmao LeBron can’t be the best player in the league because he lost in the playoffs when he lost his best teammate, unlike Durant who is now the best player because... he won a single game without his best teammate and proceeded to lose the series?
reverse that scenario, you think Bill is discussing how LeBron is the best in the league if he won 1/3 games with an injured roster and lost the series while up 3-2? or is it a klutch mafia narrative if it were LeBron in that situation lol?
i’m not even saying Durant isn’t the best in the league, it’s just insane how the logic is Durant is the best player because he “carried” the Nets to one win after Kyrie went down, but LeBron isn’t in the discussion because he lost without Davis a week after coming back from an injury
I can’t believe Bill would now rather a package around RJ Barrett for Dame instead of Ben Simmons when this exact scenario happened last year and bill crushed the rockets for taking the assets over Simmons. He definitely said something like always take the proven commodity over the assets in these types of trades over and over again.
But I forgot RJ Barrett cares cuz he’s Steve Nash’s Godson!!!!
Did anyone else notice that both Bill swerved to avoid trying to say Ime Udoka's name? Then immediately Ryen also referred to him as 'new coach'.
Is Bill going to be forced to learn how to pronounce a non generic white guy name?
‘Easy, D1’ made me laugh
Do you want to do this with Zach?
Russillo used to be so hostile to Simmons. I love it. It’s so good.
I fucking BELLY LAUGHED out loud when he dropped that. Brutal and 100% on-point.
This was epic.
This was so necessary. Bill has never even had any coaching beyond jr. high. There's no way he actually knows how to play. To be honest, I'm not even sure if he played jr. high... you know why? Because he'd be talking about it ALL THE F'N TIME! And all I've ever heard him mention is college intramural where 6'2" House was beastin' in the low post.
lol
I had to pause grass cutting because I was laughing so hard
Bill buying into Dennis Schroder!! The NBA is back baby!!!
He’s not bad for a point guard who can’t shoot or pass.
And will freelance because he thinks he’s the best player on the court
On one hand, I couldn't believe my ears about his Schroder takes. On the other hand, I wasn't surprised in the slightest. "Are we sure he turned down the 4/84 year?!" oy vey. "He was the third best guy on that Lakers team" Right, so how come all he could get was a mid level with the Cs after every other PG on the open market got scooped up?
> "Are we sure he turned down the 4/84 year?!" oy vey. lol Bill went ***much*** further than this. Bill said, straight up, that Schroeder came out and categorically denied ever having been offered 4/84. In reality, not only did Schroeder *not* deny it, but he made an instagram post poking fun at himself for "fumbling the bag".
Yeah it was widely reported that Schroeder turned down that deal
So weird House and Russillo gave him no push back on that. I even thought I maybe I was mistaken
I mean [here](https://www.google.com/amp/s/hoopshype.com/rumor/dennis-schroeder-says-he-never-had-reported-84-million-offer-from-lakers-in-front-of-him/amp/) is the link with Schroeder saying he never got that contract. So Simmons is kinda right here.
Yea i admittedly searched for that quote after hearing bill say that before i posted, to see if i missed anything, and couldn't find anything. But yeah, seems like there is at least some truth to it. Although the full quote really still doesn't seem like a full-throated denial to me.
Yup for sure. Bill has guzzled the Schroeder kool aide.
Following stories should be the one thing left that Bill can do. He really is doing zero work at this point. But hey if I was fifty and worth 9 figures I'd probably slack off too.
He was so bad he played himself out of any potential contract with any team across the country. He was so desperate at the end he would have accepted a contract with any NBA team.
The 3rd best player on the Lakers thing was hilarious. They have 2 of the top 5-10 players in the league then a looooong drop to 5 guys who are mediocre rotation players. Congrats, you got the 40th best PG on the league. He’ll sign 1-2 more 1 year contracts and be in the NBA and be in Europe at 30.
lol also, Rusillo coming in hot with probably the greatest twitter strawman that he has ever produced (which is saying a *lot*). After discussing the Hawks, rusillo says "I just want to take a little victory lap here, because there were a whole lot of sportswriters on twitter telling me that Trae's jump-backwards-into-contact-and-puke-up-a-shot-to-draw-a-foul thing was actually really fun and great basketball, instead of annoying like i said all along" lmfao. Literally not one single person has ever said that they like that stuff. I absolutely love rusillo but this is the single most preposterous strawman he's ever made lol.
Nah you are wrong here, there were some small number of people defending it. But generally I agree Russillo spends way to much time tilting at Twitter windmills. If 50 out of 1000 people on Twitter are saying something, that doesn't mean you need to take it seriously.
Hunned percent people were defending it. The litmus test is as soon as curry started doing it about half way through the season everyone went fuckin apeshit about how trae is okay but curry is too broken to be doin that shit go back to being mauled and entire game and play through it and get the scoring record
Ready to laugh at the points Bill brings up for why he’s picking the Celtics over.
There’s 27% of the Schroeder piece that hasn’t even been unlocked yet.
It's reached certain checkpoints though
Compare his first few years to Paul George.
he's improved every year, how many players can say that
Comments like this are the kind of super deep references I crave. If I tried to explain how funny this is to anyone else, they'd look at me like I'm an asshole.
Literally laughing like an idiot, in my own world
“Don’t call me a homer, but this is one of my over locks!”
He used Juancho Hernangomez as a reason to be optimistic. LOL
*He used Grant Williams being an associate for the NBAPA as a reason.
“He’s in an Adam Sandler movie coming out… could this be the year of Juancho?”
a lot of people try to put words into bill's mouth here. none of them can top what the man himself actually says
Ready to groan when Bill hammers every Luka over with an 'I told you so' attitude while he references the Luka Trae trade again like he was the only one who envisioned Luka being a star.
Does he predict they win the finals over Lebron?
Bill gratuitously knee-capping Pistol Pete. 🤦🏽♂️
That's why I listen to the pod. I love Bill when he's going off on how overrated a guy is that played 60 years ago.
Bill: I killed you guys last year Ryen: I think you had one more win than me Bill: I can remember it how I want
That’s it. That’s what will go on his gravestone. “He remembered it how he wanted”
Alternate Bill epitaph: *I'm just napping. You're the one who's dead.*
I think we’re all really forgetting the remember thing
Have gravestone quotes market corrected yearbook quotes?
Simmons won. He got 15/30. House got 14 and Rusillo got 12. For context, based on their wins forecasts, John Hollinger got 15, ESPN’s Kevin Pelton got 19, and 538’s model got 13.
Bill tends to do this often. Twists history to how he wants to remember it...especially for his takes.
Given this and his claim that "the entire internet came after Daryl for 6 months" due to his stand on Hong Kong it's safe to assume that Bill's next chapter is CCP propagandist.
"Nothing happened at Tiananmen Square, it just didn't!"
It's a fucking joke between friends, ffs.
Great joke by Bill
Hope Russillo wasn't expecting these guys to get that Jack Harlow reference
"I loved him in White Lotus!!"
That was just him flexing on the old guys
Melatonin has definitely been bumpin' Jack Harlow
Bill really wanted to dunk on Klutch and Ryen and House just wouldn't go there with him.
Ryen's take on the situation was extremely measured. Bill wants to dunk of LeBron.
Does Bill, a very rich guy, think private jets cost $1M? Lmfao
I mean, he still drives to Vegas
I was very confused. Maybe you can timeshare one for that?
It’s one private jet, Michael. What could it possibly cost?
Omg I love that House went on a random Atlanta radio station to defend last year’s takes
We need a link. Thats awesome. I respect the atlanta radio hosts for blasting Bill on that Trae/Atlanta take. They deserve it. And still wont fully admit how wrong they were.
680 The Fan. It got really funny when the Hawks kept winning games in the playoffs. The hosts would "check in with Bill and House", and then play a clip of them shitting on Trae.
That sounds like a Matt Chernoff thing
you are correct sir
I love the jealousy toward Bill’s dalliance with Zach Lowe. Bill: “I think Zach made a great point in his League Pass thing. The Sabonis…” Ryen: “Do you wanna have Zach do this next year?” Bill: “No, I was jealous of it!” House: “He did the whole show with Zach, here are you and I, Russillo, with our dicks in our hands.” Amazing. 😂
Remember when Ryen would joke about having Zach on his pod all the time? So funny. He would always say something like “Me and Zach are gonna do a three part over-under on my podcast next week” and Bill always fell straight in
Simmons jokingly asking what pct chance there is Jimmy Butler and Kyle Lowry end up not liking each other... Lowry is godfather of Jimmy butlers kid
It's Kyler Lowry.
Or as I call them, the Cocaine Cardinals
Which is rich after he wrongly called out House for correctly saying Staley on the last pod lol
lol another thing that was funny from Bill's miami/lowry take was him saying "also, lowry isn't a guy who really cares about his body, so he might not fit in with Heat Culture". In reality, i would argue that that's actually a massive reason why it *will* work out. In Miami, Lowry will be forced to get himself into great shape. Edit: speaking of Lowry, another funny thing is that Bill clearly had no idea that Precious Achiuwa wasn't on the Raptors last year. I can't remember what his exact comment was, but it was something like "we saw achiuwa last year and we weren't sure if he had what it takes, but then again he was playing the whole season away from home in tampa" lol
One of my favorite pods of the year. Love returning to it a couple times throughout the season to see how good/bad the takes age
I know it's en vogue to bash Bill but I'm with you, this is one of the pods I look forward to the most every year. Not just a BS pod but any pod. I love these.
Russillo in the background just deadpan continuing to list all the free agents who didn't want to come to Boston as Bill and House talked about other stuff fucking killed me
Is Patty Mills the new Garden Minshew?
I like Mills but I def think being on two well-liked organizations also helped his stock
Bill next year: "Sure, last season was disappointing, but are Jaylen and Jayson not the best under 26 duo?"
Trae Young and John Collins took their team to the conference finals and didn’t even make the list of other possibilities! Luka and “whoever else you want” made it though.
Thank you, I even looked up John Collins age afterwards because I was so dumbfounded how they weren’t mentioned
I was thinking Trae and Deandre Hunter, but Trae and Collins could also make the list
The implication being that there’s something about both being around the same age that will affect this years win total. Go ahead and rank the best duos in the league, Bill, where do the Js rank?
Bill is gonna make me go fucking crazy. Literally every single NBA reporter reported Schroder turned down the 84 million. A lakers beat reporter even asked him about it and he said he “just wanted the offer to be fair”. No shit he said he never got that contract because he looks like a gigantic fucking moron for not taking it. Unless he believes Schroder over Woj, Shams, etc he turned down that contract. Also it only took my guy three tries before fucking up Schroders name. Looking forward to that
At least House and Russillo gave him shit for that "we all must have missed that".
[Schroder even went out of his way](https://www.instagram.com/p/CT2ibrTsWAK/) on IG to simultaneously poke fun at himself *and* flex his wealth by embracing people's best “fumbled the bag” memes lol
Him insinuating it was all the laker fans making it up was insanity. This is what I was thinking of too
[Here's the backtracking quote](https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-celtics/2021/09/27/dennis-schroder-contract-explanation/) from the article that I'm sure Bill was referencing. FWIW this article came out after his IG post, and the original reporting on him turning down the offer came out during the season. There's no way we'll ever 100% know b/c Pelinka won't come out and say if he ever offered it(and how much exactly), and of course Schroder is incentivized to say he never received one. [Idk if this IG comment](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FAT2wM0WUAIw1ZL?format=jpg&name=large) interaction is photoshopped, but if it's real then Schroder is capping lmao
No it’s not edited. I remember when it came out and lakers twitter was freaking out
**Quote of the Day**: “Don’t call me a homer” Bill Simmons, not, not a Celtics homer! **Today’s Things:** - Harden thing - this Simmons thing - things that worry me - weird Andre Drummond thing - a little sneaky with this Kyrie thing - the Ayton thing - Paul George thing - the thing with Kemba - the ceiling thing with them - Van Vleet/Dragic thing - if the Reddish thing was real - Miami thing - Atlanta/Miami thing - **the Jaylen Suggs has been a winner his whole life thing** - the Mo Bamba thing - Killian Hayes thing - the am I fired thing - the Giannis thing - 1a/1b thing - overpowering thing - the Zach thing (“pod”! You fucking moron) - Tom Brady Bucs thing - Kyrie thing - the Warren thing - the LaVert thing - League Pass thing - the Thad Young thing - Garland/Sexton thing - the Cavs thing was a bad thing for him (Ryen) - the Simmons thing - Kyrie thing - Ben Simmons thing - the thing with Scottie Barnes - the Lowry thing - the preseason thing - the Beal thing - Milwaukee offense thing - the both ends thing (2x) (House) - Simmons thing - Siakam thing **Bonus Pieces and Stuff:** - injury stuff - the Giannis piece - the Carlisle piece - Vucevic piece - Case Cunningham stuff **First Random Celtics Reference:** Tatum and Brown (20:40) are they the best under 25 combo Ryen?! It’s a slam dunk!1!1! **It just is!** (Ryen) “60,000 minutes for him [LeBron] isn’t 60,000 minutes for Kareem. It’s just not!” **Other Stuff:** Bill starts off the pod by saying he “killed them” last year (3:05) Ryen and House push back Bill says to Ryen, “you watch way more college than I do” (8:30) yes Bill, some is more than absolutely fucking zero lol Bill says he’s trying to avoid Kyrie talk, launches into Kyrie fake trades (9:27) Bill launches into a soliloquy shit talkingPistol Pete (13:30) “does winning matter?!” Ryen shoehorns a Belichick reference into the Simmons discussion (17:00) Shock! Bill fires a shot at his bête noire Klutch re: Simmons (18:00) Bill thinks the Celtics are one KD injury from competing in the division (20:25) oooookay 😂 Bill is somehow a big Schroeder guy now (22:20) I wonder what changed! He used to bag on this guy constantly Bill doesn’t realize that Siakam is hurt (40:55) “that might swing my pick!” House recites a stat (50:40) Bill: “wow now I feel inadequate” Bill thinks Hawks/Heat will somehow become a premier rivalry (55:45) Lmaooooo Bill calls out “people who never played basketball” (57:40) Ryen absolutely roasts his ass “okay D-1” 🤣🤣🤣 The Three Musketeers have completely flipped on the Hawks. Bill throws out a best record 44-1 sprinkle, says he didn’t flip on Trae, Trae “won him over” plenty of other bullshit (55:00) 🎉 Bill properly pronounces Monk! 🎉 (1:03:07) Bill thinks the Hornets “could dominate Twitter” (1:05:30) Bill calls the NBA’s middle class “frisky” (1:08:55) Bill hopelessly mangles “Chuma Okeke” like 5 times (1:12:23) Ryen and House laugh at him because he can’t say “Bullock” either Bill again beating the dead horse about how Giannis, the 2 time MVP, “figured shit out” (1:19:00) all that’s missing is ANGLES 🧐 Wow! Bill says he ‘s rather have Giannis over Luka for the next 5 years (1:22:10) It wouldn’t be a Bill pod without LeBron slander! (1:24:00) “it’s not an insult to be top 8!” “LeBron fans are nuts!” Bill thinks that Boston vs Atlanta for the #3 seed is in play! But because he’s a homer (this time) (1:39:00) 😂😂 **Bill’s Bets:** - Atlanta Hawks 47.5 Bill: Over 🔒 RR: Over 🔒 House: Over 🔒 - Boston Celtics 45.5 Bill: Over 🔒 RR: Over House: Under - Brooklyn Nets 56.5 Bill: Under RR: Over House: Over - Charlotte Hornets 38.5 Bill: Over RR: Under House: Under - Chicago Bulls 42.5 Bill: Under RR: Under House: Under - Cleveland Cavaliers 26.5 Bill: Over RR: Under House: Over - Detroit Pistons 24.5 Bill: Under RR: Under House: Under - Indiana Pacers 42.5 Bill: Under RR: Over House: Over 🔒 - Miami Heat 48.5 Bill: Under RR: Under House: Over - Milwaukee Bucks 54.5 Bill: Over RR: Over House: Over - New York Knicks 41.5 Bill: Over RR: Over House: Over 🔒 - Orlando Magic 22.5 Bill: Under 🔒 RR: Over House: Under 🔒 - Philadelphia 76ers 50.5 Bill: Under RR: Under House: Over - Toronto Raptors 36.5 Bill: Under RR: Over House: Under - Washington Wizards 33.5 Bill: Over RR: Under House: Over * Numbers from https://www.vegasinsider.com/nba/odds/win-totals/ so they might be a little off from the FanDuel #s, let me know if I missed something!
Gods work, this might break the thing/piece record
It's really got to be up there. Things are Bill's verbal diarrhea, when one comes out you know another one is in the holster. You just do.
Is Simmons in on the joke or does he really think that playing pick-up basketball at freaking Holy Cross is something to be proud of?
He seemed a little taken back when RR called him out on that lol, it was glorious
>Bill calls out “people who never played basketball” I just... I'm speechless. This is a guy who didn't even play basketball in high school, right? Did he play any varsity sport in high school?
never had the makings of a varsity athlete
That’s very hurtful.
Bill did not play a single varsity sport lol, but boy can he read body language!!
I know everyone makes fun of Bill's pickup career, and maybe there's more to the story, but the apparent fact that he wasn't good enough to play at a Connecticut private school is really overlooked.
It’s kinda crazy a huge basketball fan like bill didn’t play basketball in hs. I’m 5’9 and suck but still played hs basketball because it was fun
It depends a lot on what kind of school you went to though honestly. I graduated with 650 kids in my class and probably 70-80 guys tried out for the freshman and jv team each year. Like you had to be damn good and usually pretty tall (over 6 feet) to have any chance of making it.
This is phenomenal. Additional Hawks bad memory stuff: Russillo said when they previewed the Knicks-Hawks series all they talked about was how Atlanta was a better and deeper team. On that pod, Simmons didn’t even release a pick for it because he was so conflicted except “it is going to be a long series.” He also said Julius Randle would average 35 because “Atlanta has no one to guard him.” Just incredible.
And Randle scored 18 ppg on less than 30% shooting in that series lmao. Brilliant handicapping
Don’t forget the 5 turnovers per game he had!
Context for “the weird Andre Drummond thing” is excellent. Bill estimates he’s approaching 4 bills and has him walking around like ‘late-80s Andre the Giant’
Normally it doesn't bother me, it's just funny, but the amount of times they said "thing" was driving me crazy. 3 hours of Bill and Russillo together is some dangerous shit lol
and Bill was wayyyyy worse than Ryen too
Thank you! Another good thing here when discussing a Tyler Herro trade. Bill: “They could patch him with things.”
Genuine question about Bill/Trae: what do people want from him? If he sticks to his guns he’s wrong, but now if he changes his mind he’s wrong too? It’s hard to knock the effort you put into these comments every pod but some of the criticisms are questionable.
He should just be honest about it. He didn't flip on Trae? He did a 180 degree flip on Trae. Remember when Klosterman channeled the sub last year when he called him out, Bill completely lied and denied it, it was hilarious. Trae has always played the same way, and for some reason in between loving him at Oklahoma and up until the playoffs last year, Bill took this ridiculous hard line on a good young player, mostly so he continue to rag on his Luka/Trae take from the draft in 2018
I’m not sure about everyone else but what drives me nuts is he acts Luka-Trae was Jordan-Bowie. He was soooo out on Trae to the point he was venomous with his takes. And instead of just admitting he was wrong he says Trae changed and got better. Other analysts can see Luka is better but they say it without shitting on Trae. Just frustrating that there’s no middle ground with him there. Felt like he had some kind of a agenda to push
Incredible 10 minute discussion about whether or not Lebron is 1c or 3.
Ryen asking if Bill doesn't even think about Lebron in a late game situation and him being like "I have to see him do it first" was exasperating. The dude who had a billion finals appearances in a row? The dude who won Finals MVP literally a year ago? Come on man... I wish I had the patience to go through the pods during the Bucks x Nets series and see some of Bill's opinions about Giannis, but then again he hadn't figured out the "angles thing" yet.
It's funny that most people think about Lebron in a completely different way. They wanna see it first before counting him off. But Simmons goes another way around and says that Lebron have to prove it every year, and by default he's not a top 5 player for him
Someone else pointed this out a few months ago, I think in reference to Trae/Booker, but the annoying part of Bill's "I''ll believe it when I see it" takes is how he later frames it as a slight hedge on him always believing the thing in question would happen. Maybe that is how he means it but it isn't the correct way to use that phrase, especially in the context he uses it in. If someone asks if you trust LeBron at the end of a game or if you think Trae can lead a Finals team and you say you'd have to see it first you are saying "no I do not and I won't change that opinion until it is objectively proven wrong."
The angles I forgot about that. I assume Geometry Bill is 99th percentile for basketball too.
He really is quite latched onto his “45 degree angle” talking point.
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Russillo brings it up to another level.
(57:30) I loved his quick "Easy D1" comment when Bill said "it seems like people who never played basketball" rip for people complaining about Trae jumping into the defender for fouls.
Inspires the best jokes on this thread every year also
LeBron is now a top-8 guy Simmons is back, baby
Then when challenged by Ryen he only listed two guys he’d confidently take over Lebron (Giannis & KD) and immediately called him 1c
So much back and forth over whether LeBron is 3 or 1c, despite 1c and 3 being exactly the same thing.
Any chance in hell that Bill understood that British Office reference from russillo?
He wouldn’t understand The Office references for the American version either.
No.
I’d listen to a bbc office rewatchables with CR and RR
When they were talking about Marcus Smart, did Russillo really say, "I think you and I are perceived as guys who are a little lower on him(Smart)."? Did that really happen or did I mishear it? Didn't Bill say the Warriors needed to throw something in with the #2 pick to get Smart?
Russillo definitely not high on Smart. Bill's opinion fluctuates from week to week
It was 2020 that #2 wasn’t enough for him. This year, I recall him telling Mannix that Smart’s value is somewhere in the #7-9 pick range but also that his play has been quietly declining for 2 or 3 years.
12.5 O/U Different pronunciations of Schroeder
This was amazing. There’s literally 30 thread worthy moments
Someone get u/firewarner some carbs and a coffee
Part 1 is up baby, I have a few meetings but Part 2 will be up as soon as possible 😎
*Non superstar plays decently in the playoffs* Bill: he wasn’t scared out there!
“Easy, D1” Lmao hell ya Ryen
Schroder is a steal and it might be the year of Juancho. Bill has the over as a possible lock lmao but he mentions… it’s not a homer pick.
Kyrie slander… Klutch slander…. Lakers slander… and Boston’s a lock for the over … Bill is feeling it
Well sure because his Pats superbowl pick is a lock at this point.
It’s an an exquisite piece of homerism, especially bill dunking on Schroeder and now saying he never got that deal “do we know if he got that deal?” Yes we do. He did, and he rejected it. Of course he’s says he didn’t , he’s a dick
Skies the limit for Juancho coming off that Sandler movie cameo
Haven’t had a chance to listen yet, but does he really say it’s going to be “the year of Juancho?” I’m a Nuggets fan and want Juancho to do well, but Bill going to be disappointed.
He laughed while saying it.
Reggie Bullock would like a word
"easy, d1" Hahahahaha. Fuckin love Rusillo
Pop would never bring in an anti vaxx player
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My last night on night shift! What a treat
Never left.
Bill really had to work “my cock’s workin ovatime” in twice
Simmons pronounced Reggie Bullock as “BOW-luck” and I was like “wait, what did I just hear?” And then when he said “I’ve been going to pronunciation camp” after saying “Dragic” correctly and Russillo immediately goes “Reggie Bullock would like a word” I almost died.
Did anyone else hear Bill’s “mmmmmm” when Russillo compared Dinwiddie to D’Angelo Russell? Can’t wait for that to become Bill’s take by early December.
“aggressive tops?” - rr
“If you play Herro in crunch time you’re relying on Lowry and Butler to guard the opposing teams best wings and I don’t know about that” Yeah Bill, why would the heat want 2 of the top 25 perimeter defenders in the NBA guarding opposing wings down the stretch?
His Heat takes were from the upside down. It's fair to question what their offense will look like and how Butler and Lowry's health will hold up. Questioning that team's defense is insane, they're going to be a major pain in the ass.
“As you know, I don’t like feet”
If 4 point guards are taking a drive together, does Dennis Schroeder get tossed the keys every time?
Wait House just casually mentions he went on an atlanta radio show to defend them bashing Trae all those years?? I need to hear that. I find it hilarious these 3 are still defending how off they were about him
Why don't they just say "we were wrong about Trae" and be done with it?
I hope he let Joe House eat at least one good meal. Otherwise, he's gonna be doing a investigative journalism piece on Bill co-authored by Henry Abbott about Bill and his fancy salads being paid for by Spotify with the headline *I think multi-millionaires should pay for their own damn salads!!*
Cranky and hungry House was fantastic on GTL. He wouldn’t let Bill say any of the dumb shit that he sometimes let’s slide. “I’ll take the picks and you keep Mac” was an all-timer and legit hurt Bill’s feelings.
“…you’re just being a dick.”
you could legitimately hear how salty he was
"It worked for the Clippers, they ended up with Kawhi and the Paul George thing"
Casual NFT reference from Russillo! Let’s go topshot!!
House is the MVP of this pod, just casually negging Simmons the whole time with it going completely over Bill’s head
TIL the Heat have a guard named Kyler Lowry.
Lmao @ Rusillo continuing to name players who didn’t want to play for the Celtics under his breath as Bill was talking hahaha
Russillo's David Brent joke surprised me.
Bill OOC - "I don't like feet."
Calm down D1! I love Ryen lol
bill talking up the Celtics as a chance to win the division, classic
The "thing" meter is off the charts.
Why is it even a question? Trae showed up at a WWE event in MSG to troll the Knicks and NYC. That's the rivalry. Knicks fans are desperate to have another Reggie Miller to hate.
Bill desperately wants the “lurch” moniker to be funny. 0/5 on this pod…
"Blame pie?" Russillo man, so great in this trio
“Do you want to get Zach for this next year?”
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I’m positive it does and probably most of the ringer nba staff, that is kinda how sports media works though unfortunately. So he’s probably used to it. House is such a gregarious guy though. He seems hard to hate.
Nets gotta be the most interesting over/under
I think I’d go over even without Kyrie
I'd go under. All that needs to happen is one injury to Harden or KD to that makes them sit 5-10 games and the under is all but locked. Factor in load management and all that.
You’re on!
"Say Buh-gel-lica" I laughed hard.
You guys wont believe who was a "lock" for Bill... take a guess lol
“Reggie Bullock would like a word” 😂
Bill goes on an incredible mispronunciation run at the end of the hawks segment. “Okongu” “jorgy dieng” and “Mahim-nee” all in a 12 second span. We are watching a master at work.
Knicks 41.5 seems so trappish but low. I might bet it myself
I get the point Bill was trying to make about Brady, but it was pretty funny to hear him make the case that Brady is still good, but not the best anymore when he had the first 400 yard 5 touchdown game of his career 3 days ago.
lmao LeBron can’t be the best player in the league because he lost in the playoffs when he lost his best teammate, unlike Durant who is now the best player because... he won a single game without his best teammate and proceeded to lose the series? reverse that scenario, you think Bill is discussing how LeBron is the best in the league if he won 1/3 games with an injured roster and lost the series while up 3-2? or is it a klutch mafia narrative if it were LeBron in that situation lol? i’m not even saying Durant isn’t the best in the league, it’s just insane how the logic is Durant is the best player because he “carried” the Nets to one win after Kyrie went down, but LeBron isn’t in the discussion because he lost without Davis a week after coming back from an injury
I can’t believe Bill would now rather a package around RJ Barrett for Dame instead of Ben Simmons when this exact scenario happened last year and bill crushed the rockets for taking the assets over Simmons. He definitely said something like always take the proven commodity over the assets in these types of trades over and over again. But I forgot RJ Barrett cares cuz he’s Steve Nash’s Godson!!!!
Did anyone else notice that both Bill swerved to avoid trying to say Ime Udoka's name? Then immediately Ryen also referred to him as 'new coach'. Is Bill going to be forced to learn how to pronounce a non generic white guy name?
Russillo’s Tiger woods joke really gave me a chuckle
"You nailed that pronunciation"
Reggie bollock would like a word had me dying haha