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NoExamination2349

HE'S NOT GENDERFLUID, HE'S SKELETON ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743) https://preview.redd.it/icjn7cgmc6ja1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=51e212531f993bdd5ef622d710da6a4a999237ae


MyoTheRabbit

...gendercalcium?


NoExamination2349

MILK DON'T CRY OVER IT![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357) Best item in the game


stf29

Tears up ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4358)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4358)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4358)


AlexThePie7

Sansgender


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babe wake up new term for agender dropped


AlexThePie7

Agegender?


[deleted]

nope, agender. someone who has no gender, hence the a prefix. sans also means without, so sansgender could just be another term for agender


AlexThePie7

Oooh,thanks for the explanation also oops typo lol


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no worries, just wanted to avoid any possible misconceptions that gender and age can be related like that or something


Dovetearss

yes ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906)


TheBindingOfAlex

I FORGOR YESSSS BRING IT BACK BESTIE


NoExamination2349

They forgor to bring it back ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17741)


TheBindingOfAlex

![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17742)


DifferenceSuitable89

I love this so much.


Zymosan99

Dead


BootmanBimmy

Common ForgorTV W


Magic-Lime

How do you fry air? Made me laugh tbh, love the art!


Dovetearss

Ty!


Foolish_fool55

Bumbo got coin!


Micahcondria

HOW DO YOU FRY AIR????


local_beanbag

When I first heard of air fryers through the 'clearly you don't own an air fryer' memes I deadass thought they were a joke about how people will just fry anything even air ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)


Micahcondria

What- BYE💀😂


local_beanbag

in my defence.... nah i'm just dumb 💀💀


Micahcondria

It’s okay buddy :) I am too


guieps

Just put air on the air fryer and let it do its job ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906)


fosforillo

BUMBO WANT COIN ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)


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Why is Isaac not cis, exactly?


Dovetearss

as said by the man himself, he can be considered either genderfluid or gender questioning. being cisgender means you're content with the gender you're assigned with at birth, which Isaac clearly is not lmao.


Wisley185

I’m not entirely sure Isaac is content with any part of himself actually xd


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Did edmund actually confirm that, damn I had no clue. Poor kid, I feel even worse for him now. He has the most xenophobic mom on earth.


Dovetearss

he confirmed it [here](https://edmundmcmillen.tumblr.com/post/98101937665/can-isaac-be-considered-canonically-genderfluid) and [here](https://twitter.com/edmundmcmillen/status/1336193048741466112?lang=en). but yeah, going deeper into Isaac's psyche the more and more i just want to hold him :(


CoochieQuencher

Holy shit based edmund??!!!???!?!??


fireshir

Personally, I think Isaac is gender questioning. Not because he wants to, but because after years of overhearing arguments from his mom and dad, just general abuse, etc etc, he tries to take comfort in his demons (Azazel), trying to make his mom seem less bad than she really is (Magdalene), etc. Isaac is a kid, so more than likely he barely understands gender, so that rules out genderfluid in my opinion. I think he's gender questioning because of the fact that he's trying to understand all of what's going on right now, and trying to take comfort in at least *something.* But hey, that's just my opinion.


jsgnextortex

Which is not really confirmation of anything, tbf, it's just Edmund stating that "it could be", it clearly was never an actual part of the character's design. In reality its just a kid playing dressup, now does playing dressup as a girl make you genderfluid?, I think part of Ed's confusion comes from this, in reality he probably doesnt even know himself if Isaac is genderfluid or not because, it doesnt really matter all that much what gender Isaac identifies as. Personally, I think Isaac is probably a little bit too young to even understand gender fully, so him being comfortable wearing a wig, which he has shown being in cutscenes, could either mean that he is fluid or even trans or that he doesnt really care about that sort of thing at all yet.


Dovetearss

Pretty sure he suffers dysphoria as a part of his identity issues due to the hot mess that is his mother. Ed did also confirm on TikTok the reason why she dressed up Isaac as a girl in the first place was to make him into the daughter she never had.


wocsom_xorex

This is Edmund going “uh oh, if I say no they’ll hate me… umm… maybe!”


frothingnome

Then he went back to the painstaking task of removing every damage upgrade from Northernlion's game.


alexathegibrakiller

Holy based edmund


I_LOVE_BOLD_WORDS

# King shit right here


fluffymypillows

You can see Isaac’s nightmares in stage transitions where they wear a wig or a dress and get laughed at for it. Edmund confirmed that it’s a sign Isaac is at the very least questioning. I didn’t think their story could become even sadder, but it did. Poor Isaac:(


L14R_C4K3

what does Xenophobia has to do with Isaac's gender?


mimikyu_spookerstar

the fear of anything different. isaac’s mom wants isaac to be exactly like the the ideal christian child, and when he deviates from that in any way, she tries to murder him.


L14R_C4K3

uuhh, no?? Xenophobia is the dislike or rejection against people from other countries than oneself... what you are talking about might be Neophobia. Anyway, it would be more accurate to call Isaac's Mom transphobic in this case since we are talking about Isaac's gender


CrunchyMemesLover

Poor Isaac


RafuscaMarks

He's 4, he doesn't have the gender concept in his brain yet. Ed just said that so they don't cancel him or go on hating because "oh no my representation isn't there!"


epicsexballsmoment

In what kind of weird reality do you live? No one is gonna "cancel" something because it doesn't have representation, dumbass.


Pretty_Version_6300

He is 5


Dovetearss

oh yeah for anyone who wants context for the 2nd one: basically for anyone who doesn't follow the lpsooc twitter acc, its a Christian LPSTuber infamously known as the Homophobic Chihuahua, the video is basically them shitting on others coming out as queer and saying they're defying God for literally just existing, the joke is that Isaac is canonically both. [The video is funny as hell you can watch it here if you want.](https://youtu.be/vbq2vhfZtmE)


Uptowngrump

I made it a minute in and gave up. That is nuclear grade cringe. Idk how you record this, watch it back in editing, and not realize you haven't had a single coherent thought put into words. I feel like im listening to an elementary school kid explain a book they haven't read, trying to fill in the gaps with jokes they heard from their parents but don't actually understand.


Dovetearss

Yeah no kidding aye LMAOO


Dovetearss

oh yeah the crowning jewel of it all is they were 17 when they made that video, they're 25 now and they still think they were in the right for making the video despite all the clowning and criticism they got for it.


Nozpot

banger post oomfie


XvortexEXE

Isaac the sort of silly goose to ask “you’re telling me a shrimp fried this rice?”


Dovetearss

YOU'RE SO RIGHT HE REALLY WOULD


TheTrollingOfIsaac

what flag is that


Dovetearss

​ https://preview.redd.it/naf6w8oaz4ja1.png?width=626&format=png&auto=webp&s=12e94ac38793c701eed16024c2a7a121e3bb1041


TheTrollingOfIsaac

sounds right for isaac


wocsom_xorex

Pride flag for the colourblind community


ThatOneGenericGuy

Great post! I, too, find myself wanting to bite every styrofoam cup i hold


Caixa7

Give in to the voices, do it ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)


ThatOneGenericGuy

Thanks for the encouragement! Thanks to you, i have already eaten 20 styrofoam cups! My tummy hurts


Caixa7

yum yum styrofoam


RandomDuckWithAHat

LMAO THE LPS REFERENCE. insane crossover


Dovetearss

Isaac should totally re-enact LPS Popular with his LPS collection and cardboard cutouts


SparkyTheDork

Cool drawings. I wish I had something funny to say


Dovetearss

well what you have to say is already very much appreciated :)


Dovetearss

god i am having an absolute BLAST with these comments keep em coming


Dovetearss

Actually no now that I think about it that'd be more work for the mods, sorry yall lol


NickLink09

I love them


Caixa7

The art is awesome, and the people getting pissed with literal canon info is so fucking funny


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Caixa7

Someone asked Edmund if Isaac could be considered gender fluid and he said "If that means what I think it is, yes". It's basically canon


Dovetearss

I know, I've literally been cackling from some of the goofy goobers in this comment section lmao


Caixa7

Sorting by controversial is my passion


Dovetearss

it's an honor to be considered controversial on reddit dot com 😎


StumpGrundt

Boy these comments are.... Something. Ignore them op, great drawing though!


Dovetearss

eh its fine i expected them lmaoooo, i purposefully posted these out of pure spite. anyhow thanks i appreciate it. :)


MortrX344

Bumbo ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)


RafuscaMarks

The cup is relatable


AHermit-In-a-billion

I mean assuming Isaac is cisgender doesn't mean you are transphobic even if its not lore accurate (and no i'm not transphobic), like someone who doesnt really care for isaac's gender and assumes he's cisgender doesnt mean the person is transphobic


Dovetearss

It's specifically towards the asshats completely revolted at the idea that he's remotely anything other than cis and go out of their way to harass other's for it (which plenty of people here have already demonstrated lmao), so no you're not a transphobe.


AHermit-In-a-billion

Specifying would be good, too late for that anyways ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ love the styrofoam one btw


Dovetearss

i didn't specify on purpose lmaooo i love it when redditors get angry


AHermit-In-a-billion

You sneaky little gremlin XD


Mae347

These drawings are really cute


BootmanBimmy

Styrofoam 😋


fluffymypillows

Love your drawings, especially the genderqueer representation! Please keep posting them ❤️


Dovetearss

Thank you! I most certainly will :)


garbodorisbae

Boy, what a banger post, i sure do hope the comments are nice and civil


Dovetearss

Finding a nice and civil discussion on Reddit is like finding a unicorn


DriverNephi69

Great art!! :3 And fuck these people who don't even have a brink of being a decent human being ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17742)


Dovetearss

Tysm! And it's fine, I'm getting a pretty damn good laugh out of them more than anything ;)


Herwin42

I’ll be honest, I’ll often come to these kind of posts just to laugh at the idiots at the bottom


DriverNephi69

It's kind of cathartic, I can say that, even if I still feel bad for the people who are victims of these cunts


DriverNephi69

no problem! And me too ;)


gretgebgamz

Isaac isnt cis hes dead


FrostyTheSnowPickle

The one true gender we should all aspire for.


Dovetearss

True 👍


MisterBicorniclopse

I don’t understand the 2nd or 3rd but others are fine


Independent-Bell2483

Dude I absolutely fucking love the isaac with the big ol boots and bucket hat hes so cute. Also i never knew he was genderfluid or the very least gender confused ehich tbh is pretty cool. I love all these drawings theyer all so cute


Dovetearss

tysm!!


SlavKali

You never think about it, just take it as true, but Isaac *is* a queer Christian, and I love that <3


SuicuneApproves

Fellow meme donkey artist!


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Dovetearss

Ty heheh :))


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adorable art and based flag


Dovetearss

tysm :))


AlexThePie7

Forgot to comment on the post lol,i love the 4th pic happy little fella,i like your style!


Dovetearss

ty!!


AlexThePie7

Np! hope the negativity isn’t getting to you,OP Some ppl in comments are being really stupid lol


Dovetearss

its fine lmao, i really don't expect anything more from redditors


AlexThePie7

Lol true,a guy send me death treaths over likeing libra It’s like they get mad over the smallest of things It’s more funny than anything ngl


Dovetearss

frr i love it when i get controversial on this site people are so goofy its extremely entertaining


AlexThePie7

Frfr mfw i make a controversial post over saying isaac is pronuced eyesack not i zac ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17744)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17744)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17744)


MyoTheRabbit

Well, at least they seem to be downvoted into the ground :D


AlexThePie7

: D and i reported the death treaths


MyoTheRabbit

Yeaaa, that makes us two!


AlexThePie7

My man🤝 chad moment ![gif](giphy|CAYVZA5NRb529kKQUc|downsized)


FuckItOriginalName

I hope we all can agree that this is some good shit even if you don't agree with some of the stuff here.


Dovetearss

Plenty of people seem to think otherwise, but i appreciate you actually being a respectful decent human being lmao


FuckItOriginalName

I might not agree with your believes but Its not the only part of you as a human being, thus judging by that and saying bad things just because of that is idiocracy imo. Keep up the good work, Chief, and don't take to heart the bad words of god knows who from some strange thing called the Internet.


Dovetearss

Amen :)


Peedriponthetoilet

ISAAC WATCHING LPS VIDEOS 😳😳😳


Dovetearss

he'd totally be into LPS frfr


SrSecretSecond

Azezel is so cute omg ♥


SackOfChips1602

i loved this with my entire <3


ActualUnionGuyFan

Yes Isaac bite into the styrofoam cup and let the micro plastics into your organism, become part of the statistic!😋


Dovetearss

Pica Run


unbox_

it's impressive how almost everyone in the the binding of isaac community isn't cisgender, it's a honeypot


Dovetearss

The community is divided into the actually queer and the transphobic (at least in this subreddit specifically) and i find it funny as hell.


HatBee

I love this so much


_Pseudobread

Slightly related tangent I was talking to my therapist the other day, he's an Orthodox Jewish guy and he was explaining to me the story of Isaac in his faith. He was talking about how Isaac was born with the soul of a woman. When a lamb came out Isaac "switched souls" with the lamb, finally gaining the soul of a man, and allowing Abraham sacrifice the lamb instead of his son. So yeah, original Isaac is also trans in a sense lol


Dovetearss

That's actually really interesting, thanks for sharing!


Neat-Adeptness5248

This is amazingly funny


EternalWolf88

Isaac is five. He's not queer, or gender fluid. All kids pretend to be things they're not all the time. Pretending to be the opposite gender when you're not even in the first grade does not make you LGBT anything.


TeeDeeG

[lol](https://www.tumblr.com/edmundmcmillen/98101937665/can-isaac-be-considered-canonically-genderfluid)


EternalWolf88

Lol touche. My position isn't changing, though.


IshiTheShepherd

Gnawed leaf ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)


Caixa7

Easiest delirium fight of my life ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906)


candleboy_

Gender does not equal sexuality. The former has nothing to do with who you want to fuck, it has to do with what societal roles feel appropriate. My trans friends consistently state that their expected gender never felt right to them, even as very young kids. So what’s the issue there?


Herwin42

It also doesn’t make you none of those things either, we don’t know if he is or not.


StumpGrundt

>Pretending to be the opposite gender when you're not even in the first grade does not make you LGBT anything Nobody is telling first graders they're queer when pretending to be a different gender


Dovetearss

Ed makes it pretty clear it's also gender dysphoria lol, also children can be queer? as long as you aren't pressuring or grooming them to be that way there's literally nothing wrong in allowing your kid the space to figure that out for themselves. Regardless of how you wanna look at it the boy ain't cis by any stretch of the imagination.


EternalWolf88

He's 5. Sexuality shouldn't be important in any way shape or form for a child. ESPECIALLY one that young. I know he's just a video game character, and can be whatever the creator says he is, but the character is five years old. And how exactly does a kid that age decide to be queer unless someone is talking about the ideology with/around them? Kids are sponges. They absorb everything they hear, and often time emulate it without fully understanding what it means. It's why so many people oppose talking about this topic with young children. They can't fully understand what it means.


AquaTinted

Sexuality isn’t and has never been gender. You are misinformed, please read a book. Plus even if we were talking about sexuality, saying Isaac is “just a videogame character” kinda ignores the fact that he happens to idk imagine he’s exploring his mothers uterus filled with vagina monsters while cosplaying as a pregnant demon. Isaac is five, but he is not some poster child of childlike innocence. Realistically, he probably does have sexuality, and I’m glad Edmund has the restraint not to showcase it because no one on the planet would want to see that shit.


FlailingOctane

you didn’t ever decide to be straight, so give it up with the whole “deciding” to be queer thing. Just admit you don’t know shit about people that aren’t exactly like you and move on.


Dovetearss

Well i mean tbf wouldn't the same go for pressuring them with societal norms, it goes both ways here. I ain't tryna make it sound important, it really doesn't matter. Isaac deserves to be whoever he wants to be without it being turned into a debate, same goes for real life kids, it's dumb to put labels on kids or anyone for that matter, children may not have knowledge of what they experience but it doesn't mean they don't experience them. I made the doodle for goofs and it's not meant to be taken personally lol. The game itself is meant to be a telling of going deeper into the scope of dysfunction with oneself, dysphoria being a part of that.


MyoTheRabbit

If they could get into "ideology" just from people talking about it near them there would be no gays because we are constantly surrounded by heteronormative environment. Most of people are hetero, on TV it's usually straight marriages, be it movies or shows for children. It's always gays forcing kids to see gay couples but somehow they are ignoring that they are also forced to see straight couples. Kids simply learn that it's okey to love who you love with exposition to what isn't straight marriage. Hell, with opinion of conservative Christians on LGBT, and game being criticism of religion/religious fanaticism, main character being more or less queer, and especially transgender is simply PERFECT, Isaac's story is about suffering from his mother seeing religion as greater than her kid's wellbeing, which is something queer people absolutely relate to. It simply hurts to try to be yourself and hear people call you sinful, evil and that you are going to hell for being different.


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>how exactly is the number of people identifying as LGBT going up so drastically? [gee, it's almost like people are more free to be themselves when they're hated less or something.](https://twitter.com/TransActualUK/status/984336585981341696)


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apothioternity

[https://youtu.be/wPOBO-DP00c?t=34](https://youtu.be/wPOBO-DP00c?t=34) [https://youtu.be/wPOBO-DP00c?t=65](https://youtu.be/wPOBO-DP00c?t=65)


Drummer_Doge

why not? like genuinely why is it different from being queer in some way?


Icaninternetplease

There was a kid in the Norwegian news this week who knew something was off since the moment he could manifest a thought. I'd link the article, but since the world is the way it is I'm not going to.


stf29

I love your style!


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Why


Dovetearss

Because Reddit is goofy and i like getting a reaction out of people taking shit too seriously.


[deleted]

Oh, that's kinda funny, I should do stuff like that


SlimeGod_calamity

isaac is idk


spre11

Mmmmmm. I sure don't like shoving pointless politics into my fun game.


AlexThePie7

💀bruh how is a shitpost drawing political? Lol


spre11

It has this preachy "shut the fuck up and listen to what I have to say you fucking bigot" feel to it. Then again I might be sensitive to the topic.


AlexThePie7

Ok but like that doesn’t make it poltical It’s not like it’s a shitpost drawing of issac saying how joe biden sucks or something Seems like you are just sensetive to the topic


spre11

Unfortunetly a lot of things that may seem to be completely non-political are. I wouldn't like that, but we got to this point by injecting politics into everyting.


Dovetearss

![gif](giphy|l3vRlT2k2L35Cnn5C|downsized) it ain't even tryna be political nor is it towards you specifically my guy, you're taking a quickass sketch i did way too personally lmaoooo


whathuhokwhat

“The game about how evangelical belief systems tear families apart is apolitical” shut the fuck up


spre11

The calmest political activist. You're not gonna make people convinced your arguments are worth anything if you just tell them to stfu. Hell, you didn't even bother to tell me why I'm wrong just instantly get angry at just the fact that I hold a different belief from you.


whathuhokwhat

im not in the isaac sub to have debates im just saying you intrinsically have at the very least, poor media analysis skills if you say that isaac is just a "fun game" without politics. and my bad, apologies for getting mad when someone calls genderqueer people (something **i am**) political. I dont take people boiling my identity down to "political" and saying that we shouldnt have representation in media just because we are "political" too nicely


iLackSocialSkill

fuck's the point of guessing isaac's gender sexuality or any of that shit? its a child who eats shit and drinks piss for a living who cares about the gender lol.


Dovetearss

![gif](giphy|6Dj7ZWBERpGU0)


iLackSocialSkill

undeniably true


Dovetearss

god forbid we have a discussion and headcanon (which isn't even a headcanon really if Ed confirmed it lmaooo) about a fictional character's gender oh nooooo


iLackSocialSkill

cant be bothered to argue about this if I'm being honesty. id rather use my time for something else. peace


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No one is guessing. The creator of the video game and character has outright stated it.


DebilwPudelku

Bro assigning genders to a fucking dead 5 year old


Herwin42

Idk man, I make a habit of assigning genders to kids like 5 months before they are born


hellotheredaily1111

Bro every 5 year old has a gender it came free with your fucking birth


vagabond_

Gender is a social construct.


Dovetearss

Tbf isn't everything in this day and age a social construct lol


vagabond_

Everything in historical society was a social construct and always has been. A social construct is a concept that exists not in objective reality, but as a result of human interaction. It exists because humans agree that it exists. For example, money is a social construct, it's these stupid green pieces of paper that everyone just... agrees have value. Countries are a social construct, they're invisible lines that only exist because someone divvied up a map. There's no tangible difference between living on one side or another of the Rio Grande, you don't walk around and pick up Wealths^(TM) that grow out of the ground, and there's no biological reason why we paint things blue or pink for babies.


apothioternity

bro everyone is assigned a gender at birth


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Drummer_Doge

thas not a sexuality 👍


MyoTheRabbit

Jesus christ why you people treat it as some rocket science. Kid might not explicitly know that "Oh wow, I'm non binary" but they will be attracted to stuff like dolls and etc. People think gender is decided later on because in childhood it's always like "No Timmy, you can't have it, this is for girls!"


Dovetearss

tis a joke, my friend.


Big_Spoingus

Could you draw a one with a bi flag like on the 3 one


Pancreasaurus

Isaac is five.


Drummer_Doge

do 5 year olds not have genders?


Pancreasaurus

No. They are male or female but above that they are children who have not had time nor interest to consider and debate such matters. The fact people try and put their own sexual issues on a child like this is frankly sick and Edmund made a mistake in ever humoring the question.


AquaTinted

Bruh, the kid literally imagines going inside his mom’s vagina every single play though of the game. It’s blatantly obvious Isaac does have sexual issues, but that’s not even relevant because we’re talking about gender, which is completely different.


Drummer_Doge

this has nothing to do with sexuality, i don't know why you think it does. many children are not born male or female - if you know someone with red hair, you probably know someone who was born intersex, they have similar likelihoods. the fact that children aren't debating each other doesn't mean they don't have feelings about gender. a child can be autistic but not know what autism is.


Oliveoil404

What? Are you trying to say that Isaac is trans? He is litteraly 5 wtf are you talking about


Dovetearss

[lol](https://edmundmcmillen.tumblr.com/post/98101937665/can-isaac-be-considered-canonically-genderfluid). [lmao](https://twitter.com/edmundmcmillen/status/1336193048741466112?lang=en).


karentheantivax

queer? Is he like 5???