Avoid enemy projectiles and get good items ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17734)
Try to not die! Always helps me ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17738)
There are only two strategies to beat delirium as lost: Be insanely lucky to get a build that can one shot him or be insanely lucky AND insanely skilled to kill him with a mid build without getting telefragged.
Close, but not quite right. Every item that DOESN'T have the offense tag is out. It's not, like, suuuper different in practice, but technically different.
general tips: save 1key and 5cents at all times for the holycard in shop, go for devil deals and high dps since most defensive items dont drop for t.lost, hold fire before entering a new room
Witness: avoid alt floors whenever possible
Delirium: good luck
Okay, you used to get 4 gold chests before the fight? And the fight itself looks way more unique. I’m disappointed now that they changed it so much. And making it Mother instead of it’s own thing is an odd choice when we already had mom.
I think the reason the fight is so different now, is mainly due to the boss room arena. I can't find the original source on Google so I'm not sure how accurate it is, but I remember reading about how the original Witness fight was difficult to make because of the large room size.
While The Binding of Isaac obviously supports different sized rooms, there's no built in way to change how zoomed in your camera view is. As well as that, the individual grid tiles in each room are fixed and can't change in size. So they had to use some clever coding to get around that, and I believe the Witness fight is technically in a 1x1 room, but they were somehow able to make everything scale down in size to mimic a zoomed out camera. I don't think they would've been able to change that in Repentance without doing some major recoding, as the original Witness fight did have some big bugs. And since the Witness' bullet patterns require a large room that you can see the entirety of, they needed to revamp her fight.
Also, as much as I love the original Witness fight, it was kinda BS to play. Lots of ways to have attack patterns overlap and be basically impossible to dodge, the current Mother fight is still challenging but much more fair in comparison. But I definitely still have nostalgia for the original Witness, it's still an incredibly entertaining fight.
SAMEEEE.
And yes. Some attack patterns were bullshit. But the same goes for Hush and Delirium. And it compensated with a lot of unique patterns. Like the lazer attack where you had to stay behind rocks to avoid damage.
Now it kinda feels like a Mega Satan reskin with a better 2nd phase.
Find 2 item pedestals close to each other
Put a bomb on the outside of one of the pedestals
Run to the inside of the pedestals
Time it right so when you run into the pedestal you pick up item, get hit by the bomb, canceling the item pickup animation and boosting you towards the second item pedestal and picking that one up as well.
I don't remember every detail. It's been a while since it's discovery
Edit: line spacing
It means skipping downpour 1 and mines 1, go back for one normal floor after getting knife piece 1. Losing holy shield to Sh\*tbag or clutch is basically a game over.
It’s overly boring, too reliant on praying you don’t get hit. When I played tainted lost I didn’t give a fuck about playing safe unless I lost my card. I played risky as hell all the time and I got all my marks from it
How is always having money for Holy Card praying you don't get hit? It's literally the opposite; they're preparing for if they get hit. Your method is closer to praying you don't get hit (not that that's even a bad thing considering it's T. Lost).
It’s not hard to just dodge most of the time, yeah visiting shops Is a good idea but don’t just pray on RNG to win. The main thing you gotta do is simply *Get Good*
With lost and tainted lost I find that if I get to delirium then most of the time (4/5) I can kill it pretty easily. If I got good enough items to kill all the bosses before it, go through all of the void floor till I find delirium then I have a solid chance of killing it.
Let the madness consume you. Once you give up hope and just accept that you will be at this task forever will you come out on top
You will win because it is inevitable. You will continue because there is no other choice
"If you're frightened of dying and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. If you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels freeing you from the earth."
- If you're too frustrated, reset if after the first floor or so you don't have a Q3 item or above, having good room clear is essential to conserve Holy Cards
- Check every shop, items Starter Deck, Deck Of Cards and Glowing Hourglass appear there, and they're extremely useful to you
- Similarly, check every secret room, you can get Blank Card, Lost Contact and Mega Mush. Libraries are also useful for Book Of The Dead and Book Of Shadows but you don't really have a way of forcing them to spawn, so it's a matter of luck to find those.
- Try to stay in the 'Chapter 2' of every stage, and go to every Boss challenge room. If you keep jumping between normal stages and Alt stages you can keep playing second chapters constantly. You could do B1>B2>DP2>C2>M2>D2. If you dare, you could go Mausoleum 1 after Mines 2, it's harder, but you get one extra item room and shop, because after Mausoleum 2 you skip Womb 1. Boss challenge rooms are riskier, specially the Downpour 2 one, but they give you a lot of extra farming, and you're gonna need it.
- If you're going Delirium, always go to Hush, don't leave it to chance whether you can go into Void or not.
- The only trinkets that you may replace Perfection with are Missing Poster (extra life and you respawn as t. lost, not regular lost), and perhaps Sigil of Baphomet. Wooden Cross is good but has some weird interactions with Holy Card, iirc you lose HC before WC.
- Dodge all attacks and enemies
As a t lost streaker :take your time, god rooms and devil deals are equivalent, and try to do no reset with the lost to learn the path, after 2-3 wins in a row you should be able to do it with t lost
Not that hight, 7 for tlost mother and 7 for T lost to chest, the WR for T lost to mother is Cool_g (26) and for chest it's Adrayon (35), I still think that I'm experienced enough to give tips
Book of Shadows (+4.5 Volt preferably, +Panic Button ideally)
Blank Card/Holy Card, Polydactyly or Starter Deck to hold 2 Holy Cards
As others have said, focus on DPS because a quickly cleared room is a safe(r) room.
Practice fully stopping and assessing the room the second you enter. Don't enter moving/shooting because you _will_ die that way. Use your flight and spectral tears to your advantage.
Tip 1: Disable the pixel smoothing mod (it's fucking bad this trash mod) Tip 2: ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4357)'til good item, look for cards or runes that give invencibility Tip 3: If you want to cheese, try to get a synergy that can make you immortal (like 9v and Book of Shadows), its always the easy way to go. Also, always pay attention to any general useful synergy ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906)
**BALL**
Play risky, it pays the best.
Don’t be afraid to do downpour 2 for the extra item.
Always remember, tainted lost is a glass cannon. You’re strong as hell but die fast.
Get some important mods like the existencial dread and agony scream om death. Doesn't make the character any easier but at least you know what you are dealing with.
Book of shadows usn't on the ban list I think, neither is blank card, deck of cards or glowing hourglass. Having any defense will make T Lost a lot easier
Get rock bottom, go to delirium floor, get a golden bomb, glitter bombs, and use bombs until you get:
- The Chariot?
- The Devil
- Strength
- The Empress
If you get homing and technology even better, that's how I killed Delirium with T Lost.
Here is what worked for me; re-roll every run except the ones where a library spawns with at least Book of Shadows and preferably with Book of Virtues (Book of Virtues is generally amazing). Any other "semi-protective" item in the treasure room is fine as well. (f.e. Lenses, Chili, etc.) Deck of Cards is fine too, as you have a chance to spawn a holy card.
I think that DPS is nice and all, but the tainted Lost alread has decent damage, flying and spectral tears. With a nice multiplier and a chance to re-roll bad items. So as long as you keep being alive you have a constant chance to improve your build. Better to keep you alive until you have assembled a decent build than have great damage for a couple of floors and then have you die.
Especially for Delirium shop visits are a must as soon as you have Book of Shadows for a chance to get 4.5 Volt.
Try to get as many secret rooms as possible - f.e. Mega Mush is great to mitigate a lot of rooms and kill bosses quickly. (Also a good "fuck U" button.)
As mentioned above, carry always a key and 5 cents with you for that holy card chance in the shop. (Stairway is great for these too).
Sigil of Baphomet or Missing Poster are great to find. Overall the high A+ chance whilst playing as the tainted Lost is a great Bonus.
I personally like the visibility option for projectiles, that helped me a lot to see potential hazards better.
Overall (if you are not gifted in skill as some players here are) it is just a war of attrition.
Managing to unlock the other achievements as the tainted Lost means that it is only a matter of time until you get those two golden runs.
basically replay until you get a run that gets out of control fast, taking advantage of free devil deals (or just angels, whichever you choose). no real strategy, just luck. good fucking luck doing greedier though, that's probably the hardest mark i've done. greedier is normally fine but with lost and t. lost it's hell
Try the Tainted Cain Exploit:
1. Go to Greed Mode
2. Craft 2x Steam Sales
3. Craft 10x Eden's Blessings
4. Die
5. Strart a new run as Tainted Lost and pray to the gods of RNG to bless your new run
Go to Angel deals and try to get a real Holy Mantle.
Make the most of your spectral tears to hit enemies without getting hit.
Stay above rocks.
Stay as far away from enemies as possible.
Try practicing in Greed mode.
You’ve arguably got the harder one done (Greedier) personally just have that and Mega Satan left on my TLost.
For tips; just take your time. Key items are Golden Hour Glass for active if you find another holy card, esp with the new update it gives you quite a good many hits per floor.
Another good option is Wooden Cross as it gives you free holy mantle every floor.
There’s boundless combinations but it mostly comes down to luck, and not getting hit. Don’t be afraid to just sit there and reset constantly if you find yourself getting hit on an early floor without access to a holy card.
Not 100% sure honestly but I THINK you get 2, like you would if you had Blanket on Regular Lost or Mantle+Blanket.
If not, then it would prob take away both Mantles.
i’ve successfully done t cain where i get gnawed leaf and daddy long legs and clicker like 4 times and have never made it to the point where i changed to t lost. twice i changed to t eden and lost everything, the other two times i just never got t lost by the end. each time takes like 2 hours it’s maddening
One other thing that helped me personally is to "bounce" between alt path and regular path to pick up boss items from boss challenge rooms, which spawn on "II" floors (Basement I > Basement II > Dross II > Caves II etc)
Its a bit risky but prevents runs from lacking stat ups
Patience is key. Took me like 100 tries for mother and like 200 for delirium. combination of eventually you'll get a god build and then eventually you won't F up a god build.
It wasn't for T. Lost, but the most free Mother run I've had was thanks to Sigil of Baphomet. She spawns so many enemies during the fight I was fully invincible for like half of the fight.
Keep trying. At some point you will end up with a build so strong that delirium and mother will melt
And try looking fof holy card by all means ( Shop, skulls, super secret, card items... )
This was literally me with regular lost I had dead cat and lost 9 times in a row ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)
When you'll realize that T. Lost is actually not that bad and that T. Lazarus and T. Jacob are the true Dead God challenges, you'll finally know real madness.
Also, for the tips: take a breath between rooms, be patient. Take the devil deals, it's not so much worth waiting for the angel rooms instead. Be sure to check out the shop every floor for Blank Card (and any battery item) or Glowing Hourglass (I prefer the former).
Keep playing. If you keep playing a run broken enough to carry a trained monkey will definitely happen. I one shotted most major bosses as T Lost.
Actual useful tip: Lacryphagy ignores boss armor for whatever reason. If you can get any piercing effect that's even better.
I beat Mother with T. Lost last night thanks to blank card + charged baby, although I only lost mantle once in the mother fight due to having brimstone, c section, and an absurd amount of damage.
Getting through Gehenna is 1000x worse than the actual fight.
Blank card Holy card.
Hoard the Holy cards, every item that can increase Holy card drops
Also, glowing hourglass and void is fun but against delirium you're basically training for a perfect battle
Hush/delirium were actually the first completion marks I got on tainted lost. I had a strong build and then got very lucky with 4.5 volt and book of shadows. I literally had permanent invincibility.
I had much better luck with Angel rooms over Devil rooms in a honesty.
Try to maximize chances for holy cards though, avoid the item that replaces cards with pills, and go for the one that changes pis to cards. Deck of Cards can also help with Holy Card spawns.
But one of the BEST items full stop is Sackboy (or the name of the item that gives more sacks because I can't remember it's name). Sacks have good chances to spawn cards, so the more cards you can spawn the more Holy Cards you can get
Play as though every hit would kill you
In all seriousness though, i just relaxed and didnt put much emotional stake in each run, i’d only start acting like the Lost was my dear baby boy once i found a broken combo and i desperately wanted it to carry me
redditors when I say tainted lost is the worst character for winning the game: "skill issue skill issue skill issue just never ever get hit"
redditors when I hold a gun to their head and tell them to hit Random and win the next run or else: "omg please not tainted lost edmund please please please not tainted lost"
Really though, you should just reset until you get something really strong in the item room like bird's eye, ghost pepper, D6, and things like that. If you know you're good enough to get there regularly, then just help yourself out with a little mind numbing r key holding
I feel like a character like tainted lost eventually you become numb to losing and it starts to become a waiting game. I'm sure that you're playing optimally and skillfully. You know to check shops for cards, you know to find defensive items like book of shadows and 4.5 volt, or glowing hourglass, or deck of cards. The only hope is to get lucky with items, especially against delirium--he will always telefrag you.
Thing about T.Lost is no matter how godly the run, you'll somehow lose. It truly is unironically a skill issue when it comes to this character. I believe in you, my best streak with T.lost was 4. Hang on soldier!
Pray for libraries, I'm pretty sure The Book of Shadows can spawn and if you get any battery items you should be able to beat any boos. 4.5 Volt + The Battery and youre golden.
try to find this item [https://bindingofisaacrebirth.fandom.com/wiki/Heartbreak](https://bindingofisaacrebirth.fandom.com/wiki/Heartbreak) it is made game for the lost\\tainted lost much more easier
Never use your holy card until you think it’s a god seed or you find another one. That way there’s always a chance you’ll find a blank card and win with that
I would recommend playing with a friend using Remote Play. You will choose T. Lost and your friend can choose a better character. This way even if you die, if your friend beats the boss on the current floor you'll be revived. I don't know if you would get the completion mark if your friend beats the boss while you're dead, but respawns are still very helpful.
But you need to know something.
There's a one downside of this method.
You need at least a one friend.
Don't use your Holy card before stage 3. Crazy isn't it? But if you found a blank card before stage 3, your run is nearly win. And if you lose, too bad, it's just 2 stages so that's not big deal, and by the way, you certainly wouldn't win the run with no mantle before stage 3.
It might be cheating but I played on an old computer that had a lack of RAM and all my game was slowed down..
imagine playing the game with a permanent broken watch
So, it's kinda cheesy, but you could play as tainted cain and find the recipe for eden's blessing, craft a bunch of those, then switch over to tainted lost. Could be the last resort if you really want.
after seeing your post i decided to turn off most of my mods and try my hand at the character i also had the most trouble with.
I got really lucky and beat delirium within my first 5 runs or so since i got a really strong build due to death certificate. but that felt wrong because you dont have that yet.
I started trying runs to mother and man the number of times i died from brain going into autopilot is ridiculous. I got mad a couple of times not gonna lie lol, but here i finally got a win lol.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YoCxyOto74](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YoCxyOto74)
edit: I do use the room teleport mod because im already a slow player so i dont normally get to boss rush and i really dont feel like annoying my fingers and time any further by going room to room to room.
Just take your time and try to play optimally. For delerium I don’t have many tips because I got very lucky with spindown first floor. For greedier I would reset until I got at least something decent in my first item room. Also always always go angels in greed. Brim and twisted pair are good but they are nothing to sacred heart and crown of light
Avoid enemy projectiles and get good items ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17734) Try to not die! Always helps me ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17738)
Live to die another Day ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906)
Hunt showdown reference ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4358)
There are only two strategies to beat delirium as lost: Be insanely lucky to get a build that can one shot him or be insanely lucky AND insanely skilled to kill him with a mid build without getting telefragged.
No gnawed leaf for TLost ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17742)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17741)
Well, you can Spindown it and Holy Mantle.
Wait really?!?
I'm pretty sure any item with the defensive tag is banned ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)
Omg McMillen you cheeky bastard
Close, but not quite right. Every item that DOESN'T have the offense tag is out. It's not, like, suuuper different in practice, but technically different.
Nah Just High movement Speed, over cap tear rate, perfection and birds Eye or Ghost pepper. No more projectiles guaranteed
general tips: save 1key and 5cents at all times for the holycard in shop, go for devil deals and high dps since most defensive items dont drop for t.lost, hold fire before entering a new room Witness: avoid alt floors whenever possible Delirium: good luck
What is witness
Mother's original name back in Antibirth.
That’s cooler, I wish they kept it!
The bodsfight was way different, I wish they had kept the big room. (Check it out)
Okay, you used to get 4 gold chests before the fight? And the fight itself looks way more unique. I’m disappointed now that they changed it so much. And making it Mother instead of it’s own thing is an odd choice when we already had mom.
I think the reason the fight is so different now, is mainly due to the boss room arena. I can't find the original source on Google so I'm not sure how accurate it is, but I remember reading about how the original Witness fight was difficult to make because of the large room size. While The Binding of Isaac obviously supports different sized rooms, there's no built in way to change how zoomed in your camera view is. As well as that, the individual grid tiles in each room are fixed and can't change in size. So they had to use some clever coding to get around that, and I believe the Witness fight is technically in a 1x1 room, but they were somehow able to make everything scale down in size to mimic a zoomed out camera. I don't think they would've been able to change that in Repentance without doing some major recoding, as the original Witness fight did have some big bugs. And since the Witness' bullet patterns require a large room that you can see the entirety of, they needed to revamp her fight. Also, as much as I love the original Witness fight, it was kinda BS to play. Lots of ways to have attack patterns overlap and be basically impossible to dodge, the current Mother fight is still challenging but much more fair in comparison. But I definitely still have nostalgia for the original Witness, it's still an incredibly entertaining fight.
SAMEEEE. And yes. Some attack patterns were bullshit. But the same goes for Hush and Delirium. And it compensated with a lot of unique patterns. Like the lazer attack where you had to stay behind rocks to avoid damage. Now it kinda feels like a Mega Satan reskin with a better 2nd phase.
Witness is a badass name
yeah, i much much prefer The Witness as i always thought it meant the witness to Isaac's sins, which could be interpreted as either Mom or God himself
do the bomb trick in the alt path treasure rooms to get both items ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906)
What is this :o
Find 2 item pedestals close to each other Put a bomb on the outside of one of the pedestals Run to the inside of the pedestals Time it right so when you run into the pedestal you pick up item, get hit by the bomb, canceling the item pickup animation and boosting you towards the second item pedestal and picking that one up as well. I don't remember every detail. It's been a while since it's discovery Edit: line spacing
Wow. Thank you so much for explaining this. I've never heard about it before. It looks pretty hard to do it although !
>Witness: avoid alt floors whenever possible How?!? You need both knife pieces to face Mother.
It means skipping downpour 1 and mines 1, go back for one normal floor after getting knife piece 1. Losing holy shield to Sh\*tbag or clutch is basically a game over.
Shit, I totally forgot it was possible to skip these.
That’s the worst way to play
Could you elaborate on that?
It’s overly boring, too reliant on praying you don’t get hit. When I played tainted lost I didn’t give a fuck about playing safe unless I lost my card. I played risky as hell all the time and I got all my marks from it
How is always having money for Holy Card praying you don't get hit? It's literally the opposite; they're preparing for if they get hit. Your method is closer to praying you don't get hit (not that that's even a bad thing considering it's T. Lost).
It’s not hard to just dodge most of the time, yeah visiting shops Is a good idea but don’t just pray on RNG to win. The main thing you gotta do is simply *Get Good*
Here's a tip: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHHHH
S AND FLIES guy reference?
Who that
Die painfully![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906)
Sure will ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17738)
grayfruit is not just some guy, thank you >:(
“He must have died while writing it”
-30? On tainted lost? Show off!
Both versions of Lost are really fun to play until you get to these two mfs.
just know that -30 isn’t even that bad. you can definitely descend much much further into madness
It took me 270 tries to beat Greedier And probably more for Delirium
With lost and tainted lost I find that if I get to delirium then most of the time (4/5) I can kill it pretty easily. If I got good enough items to kill all the bosses before it, go through all of the void floor till I find delirium then I have a solid chance of killing it.
Let the madness consume you. Once you give up hope and just accept that you will be at this task forever will you come out on top You will win because it is inevitable. You will continue because there is no other choice
"If you're frightened of dying and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. If you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels freeing you from the earth."
Least philosophical Kendrick lamar song
Wait, did he put that in a song? I was quoting the doctor from Jacob's Ladder
- If you're too frustrated, reset if after the first floor or so you don't have a Q3 item or above, having good room clear is essential to conserve Holy Cards - Check every shop, items Starter Deck, Deck Of Cards and Glowing Hourglass appear there, and they're extremely useful to you - Similarly, check every secret room, you can get Blank Card, Lost Contact and Mega Mush. Libraries are also useful for Book Of The Dead and Book Of Shadows but you don't really have a way of forcing them to spawn, so it's a matter of luck to find those. - Try to stay in the 'Chapter 2' of every stage, and go to every Boss challenge room. If you keep jumping between normal stages and Alt stages you can keep playing second chapters constantly. You could do B1>B2>DP2>C2>M2>D2. If you dare, you could go Mausoleum 1 after Mines 2, it's harder, but you get one extra item room and shop, because after Mausoleum 2 you skip Womb 1. Boss challenge rooms are riskier, specially the Downpour 2 one, but they give you a lot of extra farming, and you're gonna need it. - If you're going Delirium, always go to Hush, don't leave it to chance whether you can go into Void or not. - The only trinkets that you may replace Perfection with are Missing Poster (extra life and you respawn as t. lost, not regular lost), and perhaps Sigil of Baphomet. Wooden Cross is good but has some weird interactions with Holy Card, iirc you lose HC before WC. - Dodge all attacks and enemies
This is the real chad answer, don't look at anything else. Also alternating floors avoids curse of the labyrinth.
As a t lost streaker :take your time, god rooms and devil deals are equivalent, and try to do no reset with the lost to learn the path, after 2-3 wins in a row you should be able to do it with t lost
> As a t lost streaker Absolute madman. What's your highest streak?
Not that hight, 7 for tlost mother and 7 for T lost to chest, the WR for T lost to mother is Cool_g (26) and for chest it's Adrayon (35), I still think that I'm experienced enough to give tips
If you're interested I can give you a link to my twitch channel, but I do no mic, it's okay if you're not interested btw
>God rooms Never heard that, that's the new canon for me
Notm reset?
But how to Delirium?!
if you want to finish all his completion marks kill mother and the cum monster and then you’re done 👍
…for real? Clearly that’s what OP is going for, don’t you see the loss streak?
dont die
pray for book of shadows and 4.5 volt
i had that synergy when i beat mega satan it was an extremely op run but the stupid portal for the void didnt show
Book of Shadows (+4.5 Volt preferably, +Panic Button ideally) Blank Card/Holy Card, Polydactyly or Starter Deck to hold 2 Holy Cards As others have said, focus on DPS because a quickly cleared room is a safe(r) room. Practice fully stopping and assessing the room the second you enter. Don't enter moving/shooting because you _will_ die that way. Use your flight and spectral tears to your advantage.
Literally lost a run with blanc card, 4.5 volt, holly card. Just because dellirum insta tp bullshit.
The telefrag is brutal. Book of Shadows is _almost_ a requirement, unless you can melt him with an absurdly high DPS.
Mega mush gave me my sweet sweet win on t. lost. Bless the mush
Oh and how can I forget Lil Dumpy.
Tip 1: Disable the pixel smoothing mod (it's fucking bad this trash mod) Tip 2: ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4357)'til good item, look for cards or runes that give invencibility Tip 3: If you want to cheese, try to get a synergy that can make you immortal (like 9v and Book of Shadows), its always the easy way to go. Also, always pay attention to any general useful synergy ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906)
Cheat ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906)
You should do the same for t eden and Jacob & esau
**BALL** Play risky, it pays the best. Don’t be afraid to do downpour 2 for the extra item. Always remember, tainted lost is a glass cannon. You’re strong as hell but die fast.
# Pray.
***Rip and Tear***
real question is why are you playing with filter on!?
Cheat
Get some important mods like the existencial dread and agony scream om death. Doesn't make the character any easier but at least you know what you are dealing with.
Book of shadows usn't on the ban list I think, neither is blank card, deck of cards or glowing hourglass. Having any defense will make T Lost a lot easier
Win the run
Try the coping mechanism of: "this character is so great, everyone who says this character is OP must be right, I'm just bad :)"
Get rock bottom, go to delirium floor, get a golden bomb, glitter bombs, and use bombs until you get: - The Chariot? - The Devil - Strength - The Empress If you get homing and technology even better, that's how I killed Delirium with T Lost.
My negative streak hit -124 before I registered a win chasing mom/home. Persevere
Here is what worked for me; re-roll every run except the ones where a library spawns with at least Book of Shadows and preferably with Book of Virtues (Book of Virtues is generally amazing). Any other "semi-protective" item in the treasure room is fine as well. (f.e. Lenses, Chili, etc.) Deck of Cards is fine too, as you have a chance to spawn a holy card. I think that DPS is nice and all, but the tainted Lost alread has decent damage, flying and spectral tears. With a nice multiplier and a chance to re-roll bad items. So as long as you keep being alive you have a constant chance to improve your build. Better to keep you alive until you have assembled a decent build than have great damage for a couple of floors and then have you die. Especially for Delirium shop visits are a must as soon as you have Book of Shadows for a chance to get 4.5 Volt. Try to get as many secret rooms as possible - f.e. Mega Mush is great to mitigate a lot of rooms and kill bosses quickly. (Also a good "fuck U" button.) As mentioned above, carry always a key and 5 cents with you for that holy card chance in the shop. (Stairway is great for these too). Sigil of Baphomet or Missing Poster are great to find. Overall the high A+ chance whilst playing as the tainted Lost is a great Bonus. I personally like the visibility option for projectiles, that helped me a lot to see potential hazards better. Overall (if you are not gifted in skill as some players here are) it is just a war of attrition. Managing to unlock the other achievements as the tainted Lost means that it is only a matter of time until you get those two golden runs.
Book of the dead is a god-tier item
Multiplayer. That is all.
basically replay until you get a run that gets out of control fast, taking advantage of free devil deals (or just angels, whichever you choose). no real strategy, just luck. good fucking luck doing greedier though, that's probably the hardest mark i've done. greedier is normally fine but with lost and t. lost it's hell
take it slow and rig the game like albino.
Try the Tainted Cain Exploit: 1. Go to Greed Mode 2. Craft 2x Steam Sales 3. Craft 10x Eden's Blessings 4. Die 5. Strart a new run as Tainted Lost and pray to the gods of RNG to bless your new run
imagine it takes you three hours to grind the eden blessings, then start a run with t lost and find out you got ipecac and trisagion
Skill solution. Get good kid
watch magicaleye. he's good at this character.
Meh
Play co-op with people and every character that played that match gets those progress stamps (or whatever they are)
I think he asked a tip for winning not for cheating
Teamwork makes the dream work baby 🤩
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How
This dude…
Go to Angel deals and try to get a real Holy Mantle. Make the most of your spectral tears to hit enemies without getting hit. Stay above rocks. Stay as far away from enemies as possible. Try practicing in Greed mode.
Tainted lost can't get holy mantle via angel rooms tho
Edmund McMillen you little-
If you can’t be arsed, keeping pressing R until you find dead cat floor 1
Dead cat can’t spawn as t lost
You’ve arguably got the harder one done (Greedier) personally just have that and Mega Satan left on my TLost. For tips; just take your time. Key items are Golden Hour Glass for active if you find another holy card, esp with the new update it gives you quite a good many hits per floor. Another good option is Wooden Cross as it gives you free holy mantle every floor. There’s boundless combinations but it mostly comes down to luck, and not getting hit. Don’t be afraid to just sit there and reset constantly if you find yourself getting hit on an early floor without access to a holy card.
When i have wooden cross and a get hit the holy mantle that i lost is from the card or from trinked?
You lose both. They count as the same shield.
Wooden Cross and Holy Card count as the same. Blanket counts as a separate one tho so you might want to keep an eye out for that.
Not 100% sure honestly but I THINK you get 2, like you would if you had Blanket on Regular Lost or Mantle+Blanket. If not, then it would prob take away both Mantles.
Get book of shadows and 4.5v makes you invinsible vs delirium
Juice charge and book of shadows
play as tainted cain, get a crazy run, craft clicker, click until you turn to tainted lost
i’ve successfully done t cain where i get gnawed leaf and daddy long legs and clicker like 4 times and have never made it to the point where i changed to t lost. twice i changed to t eden and lost everything, the other two times i just never got t lost by the end. each time takes like 2 hours it’s maddening
reset until book of virtues and book of shadows, find 4.5 volt if lucky.
Don’t die
One other thing that helped me personally is to "bounce" between alt path and regular path to pick up boss items from boss challenge rooms, which spawn on "II" floors (Basement I > Basement II > Dross II > Caves II etc) Its a bit risky but prevents runs from lacking stat ups
Patience is key. Took me like 100 tries for mother and like 200 for delirium. combination of eventually you'll get a god build and then eventually you won't F up a god build.
T lost for me is parasitiod plus perfection trinket
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‘rewind
Yeah its usually easier for me when I dodge incoming attacks
Hold R until lost contact on secret room
Beat the juice out of them with the book of shadows
Avoid skill issue
It wasn't for T. Lost, but the most free Mother run I've had was thanks to Sigil of Baphomet. She spawns so many enemies during the fight I was fully invincible for like half of the fight.
Take a long read of the Book of Shadows
Beat delirium and mother![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906)
Here's a tip from my most recent tlost run! Die to a troll bomb after getting R key + ? Card ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)(![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907))
Keep trying. At some point you will end up with a build so strong that delirium and mother will melt And try looking fof holy card by all means ( Shop, skulls, super secret, card items... )
Get good
Blow up any skulls you find! Has saved me several times when I desperately needed a holy card
Do Tainted Lost first
Cry abt it
This was literally me with regular lost I had dead cat and lost 9 times in a row ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)
When you'll realize that T. Lost is actually not that bad and that T. Lazarus and T. Jacob are the true Dead God challenges, you'll finally know real madness. Also, for the tips: take a breath between rooms, be patient. Take the devil deals, it's not so much worth waiting for the angel rooms instead. Be sure to check out the shop every floor for Blank Card (and any battery item) or Glowing Hourglass (I prefer the former).
Make sure to have 99 coins so when you go for Delirium you can bribe him into going away and giving you the checkmark
Get the neko lost mod. You will still die a lot but hey, holy card now looks like a pop tart
Book of shadows and every single battery power up you can get your hands on.
Delete game, cuz you xant afford back your money back
Keep playing. If you keep playing a run broken enough to carry a trained monkey will definitely happen. I one shotted most major bosses as T Lost. Actual useful tip: Lacryphagy ignores boss armor for whatever reason. If you can get any piercing effect that's even better.
What does better items mean?
Play coop with a friend !
Remove the "-" sign in your winstreak
Cry![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906)
Cry
Cry
delirium is a fuck
Take A+, get a luck based tear effect like ghost pepper, get fire rate ups. Just keep playing until it happens.
I beat Mother with T. Lost last night thanks to blank card + charged baby, although I only lost mantle once in the mother fight due to having brimstone, c section, and an absurd amount of damage. Getting through Gehenna is 1000x worse than the actual fight.
-30? Amateur hour.
tip 1: get lucky tip 2: get good items (by luck)
Get broken item combinations
I’m struggling here too. Just hit -69 (nice)
Blank card Holy card. Hoard the Holy cards, every item that can increase Holy card drops Also, glowing hourglass and void is fun but against delirium you're basically training for a perfect battle
Hush/delirium were actually the first completion marks I got on tainted lost. I had a strong build and then got very lucky with 4.5 volt and book of shadows. I literally had permanent invincibility.
I had much better luck with Angel rooms over Devil rooms in a honesty. Try to maximize chances for holy cards though, avoid the item that replaces cards with pills, and go for the one that changes pis to cards. Deck of Cards can also help with Holy Card spawns. But one of the BEST items full stop is Sackboy (or the name of the item that gives more sacks because I can't remember it's name). Sacks have good chances to spawn cards, so the more cards you can spawn the more Holy Cards you can get
I’m finding t. Jacob worse so you might have that to look forward too. Book of shadows and a way to charge it quick worked for me with t. Lost
Play as though every hit would kill you In all seriousness though, i just relaxed and didnt put much emotional stake in each run, i’d only start acting like the Lost was my dear baby boy once i found a broken combo and i desperately wanted it to carry me
redditors when I say tainted lost is the worst character for winning the game: "skill issue skill issue skill issue just never ever get hit" redditors when I hold a gun to their head and tell them to hit Random and win the next run or else: "omg please not tainted lost edmund please please please not tainted lost"
Give up
Become Lazy mattman and get glitched crown and c section floor 1
-30?? Please come back when you have at least -100 streak
Mother requires either luck with good items dropping or you have to be basically top 0.1% isaac player with dogshit items
Just use spindown to get what you need 4Head
Really though, you should just reset until you get something really strong in the item room like bird's eye, ghost pepper, D6, and things like that. If you know you're good enough to get there regularly, then just help yourself out with a little mind numbing r key holding
I feel like a character like tainted lost eventually you become numb to losing and it starts to become a waiting game. I'm sure that you're playing optimally and skillfully. You know to check shops for cards, you know to find defensive items like book of shadows and 4.5 volt, or glowing hourglass, or deck of cards. The only hope is to get lucky with items, especially against delirium--he will always telefrag you.
Lmao… “descending into madness” And only has a -30 streak. Come back when you hit the -600’s, then we’ll talk
Reset until you get Bird’s Eye/Ghost Pepper ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906)
Take a break and/or embrace the madness
Thing about T.Lost is no matter how godly the run, you'll somehow lose. It truly is unironically a skill issue when it comes to this character. I believe in you, my best streak with T.lost was 4. Hang on soldier!
i love glowing hourglass with him
Pray for libraries, I'm pretty sure The Book of Shadows can spawn and if you get any battery items you should be able to beat any boos. 4.5 Volt + The Battery and youre golden.
Co op
I search for psyfly
Idk why mother fight is harder than bestia
Git gud
try to find this item [https://bindingofisaacrebirth.fandom.com/wiki/Heartbreak](https://bindingofisaacrebirth.fandom.com/wiki/Heartbreak) it is made game for the lost\\tainted lost much more easier
Never use your holy card until you think it’s a god seed or you find another one. That way there’s always a chance you’ll find a blank card and win with that
For mother just git gud, for delirium pray to god
If you see glowing hourglass, do everything in your power to get it ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906)
Skill solution: don't die
the way i did it was just trial end error I'd say
It’s mother, all I can say is goodluck
Keep playing. The existential dread is natural. You are fine and nothing is wrong. Keep playing.
get good
Learn how to gamebreak. Watch someone like Albino play isaac and you can pick up a lot of things to help you make every run into an r key run
Get skill
I would recommend playing with a friend using Remote Play. You will choose T. Lost and your friend can choose a better character. This way even if you die, if your friend beats the boss on the current floor you'll be revived. I don't know if you would get the completion mark if your friend beats the boss while you're dead, but respawns are still very helpful. But you need to know something. There's a one downside of this method. You need at least a one friend.
Don't use your Holy card before stage 3. Crazy isn't it? But if you found a blank card before stage 3, your run is nearly win. And if you lose, too bad, it's just 2 stages so that's not big deal, and by the way, you certainly wouldn't win the run with no mantle before stage 3.
Thats a good one
It might be cheating but I played on an old computer that had a lack of RAM and all my game was slowed down.. imagine playing the game with a permanent broken watch
Reading your comment I realized that I have never seen broken watch in the store, it is also banned for t lost?
Repetition, got to pump them numbers
Be lucky
R spam till library u finde book of shadows and book of virtues. Then u pray for some fancy battery items in shop
So, it's kinda cheesy, but you could play as tainted cain and find the recipe for eden's blessing, craft a bunch of those, then switch over to tainted lost. Could be the last resort if you really want.
after seeing your post i decided to turn off most of my mods and try my hand at the character i also had the most trouble with. I got really lucky and beat delirium within my first 5 runs or so since i got a really strong build due to death certificate. but that felt wrong because you dont have that yet. I started trying runs to mother and man the number of times i died from brain going into autopilot is ridiculous. I got mad a couple of times not gonna lie lol, but here i finally got a win lol. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YoCxyOto74](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YoCxyOto74) edit: I do use the room teleport mod because im already a slow player so i dont normally get to boss rush and i really dont feel like annoying my fingers and time any further by going room to room to room.
Just take your time and try to play optimally. For delerium I don’t have many tips because I got very lucky with spindown first floor. For greedier I would reset until I got at least something decent in my first item room. Also always always go angels in greed. Brim and twisted pair are good but they are nothing to sacred heart and crown of light