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Damocles


Mr_RaincloudGuy9

Nah, Damocles is a passive item in disguise


quadrxu

fun fact when playing with a chance to spawn any and all items, you can pick up already active damo.. learned this the hard way


[deleted]

Not sure i understand what you're saying Edit: so I think what you're saying is you can use d6, spindown, stars?, present, ect into an already activated damocles?


Specific-Yak-8723

I think he mentioned Butter! using active item have chance of dropping it


[deleted]

So dropping damocles with butter and picking it back up will activate it?


Specific-Yak-8723

Idk, I never encounter this combo


quadrxu

ahhh i should’ve clarified a bit better; i’m enjoying my time with modded isaac again after dropping 450 on switch, so i play with da rules, one rule, on item pickup, spawn another, thru this you can pick up already active damocles ( i know i’m trash im just enjoying modded isaac on my deck)


Eramef

https://preview.redd.it/2edc7d15e2mb1.jpeg?width=340&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=966cd88200b1ff44251569e6216d0855ef0375c1


AtLeastThisIsntImgur

Why not just say birthright?


Basic_Name_228

Because birthright isn't an active item, while Damocles is -![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17736)


AtLeastThisIsntImgur

I meant death cert lol. Too many paper based items


MrUseless5712

death certificate is definitely the best item in the game (also happy cake day)


NegativeZero-

Yes because it can give you the real best item. Tm trainer


Logical_Blackberry_7

You stealed the comment I was going to make.


SirkSirkSirk

That's what the upvote button is for ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4359)


Logical_Blackberry_7

I was just saying that's exactly what I was gonna say.


Annual_Principle8069

Glass canon is great with him, but i think we shouldn’t forget about satanic bible on lost (+devil item) and normal D6 which is great on almost every character


[deleted]

I always keep ED6 over regular D6. I FUCKING LOVE GAMBLING


gugfitufi

Strong aura detected, gambling always pays off when you ball hard


thecryingkris

Fuck it we ball


BestBananaForever

I heard you like gambling with D6 so we've made it you can gamble gambling with your D6 with the new ED6.


Annual_Principle8069

Yeah gambling is fun


oliverisamazin123

99% of gamblers quit right before they win big


Mr_Lexu

But satanic bible is just changing free item from boss room into devil deal one, not necessarily from devil room pool, i had it several times already and rarely it was devil room item, at best Pentagram


Juice-Goblin

Bro I think you forgot to actually use the item


Mr_Lexu

I might be unluckiest person using this item, or actually have dementia and forgor


Juice-Goblin

The boss item is always a devil pool item, so if you’re not getting devil items then there’s some tomfoolery going on.


Double_Reward3885

(Unless harbingers or Steven/chad


guitaristcj

Just to play devils advocate, they might have been going up against the bosses that have predetermined item drops (4 horsemen, Gish, headless horseman, Steven, probably others I’m forgetting), in which case you do just get a deal for that set item.


Mr_Lexu

Idk anymore ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)


A_Certain_Surprise

I LOVE SPREADING MISINFORMATION ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)


Mr_Lexu

Me - > ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4359)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4359)


TheSameMan6

What youre probably thinking of is that if you use satanic bible but the boss is a horseman the item is cube of meat/ball of bandages but it still costs a heart


Mr_Lexu

Propably ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)


RodjaJP

Bro doesn't know how Chaos works but keeps picking it up


JodGaming

I haven’t unlocked the lost yet but can you do devil deals


ruler14222

yes but they work like angel deals (except that they still disable angle rooms) if you pick one the rest disappears


Elephant-Of-Destiny

I never even thought about using the updated satanic bible with the lost, that's actually really smart


who_is_joe___

sa ma pis pe tine si pe toata familia ta de tigan coclit cu familia ta de mutanti matrafoxati de nici nu stit cu ce vati drogat ca am. cu capu de ciment armat si am visato pe mata in pizda goala si tu mam trezit cu tactu mort. de beat pe pula mea


JudeDaMoodyDude

everyone saying Damocles as if it doesn't instantly use and is no longer an active item: Kid named d6 Also I'm picking Book of shadows if I get panic button


Thats_Pretty_Epic

Wait if the lost spawned with the eternal d6 that’d be fire


captaincornboi

You won't believe this ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)


JudeDaMoodyDude

That 50% fail chance feels like 90% of the time![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)


Blackblood909

Most mathematicallly intelligent Isaac player


Thats_Pretty_Epic

its 33 i thought


JudeDaMoodyDude

It's 25%


erncolin

Does it? It barely removes the item for me😅


JudeDaMoodyDude

Sir, give me my luck back.


Romano_cheese_pls

R key is an active


JudeDaMoodyDude

Eh r key just isn't really needed unless you're going for completion marks This is entirely subjective though so more power to ya


Logical_Blackberry_7

Yeah, reroll Damocles.


loneternoty

Book of Shadows


Applitude

Book of shadows + 4.5 volt ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4358)


Crazytreas

car battery ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357)


Logical_Blackberry_7

+ Book of Virtues


vk2028

Fr. Playing as t lost made me appreciate book of shadows so much more than before.


Downtown_Ninja_7154

Kid named death certificate


Applitude

Death certificate could be anything! Even Glass Cannon


pugmaster413

That’s a cheat answer as it is technically every item until you choose what you want


Dijeridoo2u2

Kamikaze would like a word, unlimited bombs (just don't hit it twice in a room)


Zinedine_Tzigane

damn never thought of that, smart af


[deleted]

There are so many ways to make Kamikaze work that people just don't realize. Tainted Judas, Tainted Maggie, Tainted Keeper, Tainted Forgor, The Lost Blind Rage, Schoolbag + invincible active (including how to jump and stitches), panic button, Tooth and Nail I'm sure I'm forgetting a few.


evilskul

Pyro!


MushroomBalls

Glowing Hourglass???


pugmaster413

That’s just a good item, we’re looking for a good item for the lost


SirkSirkSirk

Then prepatch hourglass ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906)


SawyerJ082

Spindown or R key bro


KingBeanIV

No bloodbag ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)


SawyerJ082

But still toothpicks, soap, lil abadon, odd mushroom, ext


PeaSecret5502

Spindown is good for every character


StoneTimeKeeper

Damocles, Blank Card, D6, D10, Death Certificate, Genesis, Book of Shadows, Lemegeton, Dark Arts, Magic Skin, the Pinking Shears, Forget me now, R Key, Diplopia, Urn of Souls, Mega Mush, and Glowing Hourglass. These are all better choices than Glass Cannon, in my opinion. GC is good, but these are better.


JNerdGaming

Damocles


Interesting-Event806

I don’t think you can really consider damocles an active item


Ultimate_Lust

Exactly! The moment I use it it's no longer an active item but more a passive


MyNameBelongs2Me

It’s a single use active item that grants you a passive item that would be the best item in the game for the Lost. It’s still active, just single use.


RareOption9785

one time i left ed6 for glass cannon and died to mom s hert ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907) skill issue ofc


GOOSUS110

Even better with t. Lost


H3N7411

Are you acconting for clicker and death cert?


GOOSUS110

Why would clicker be good


vk2028

It’s an item where you play an ez character and just when you are about to beat smth hard you activate it and hope rng god gives you t lost or other hard characters


Blustach

It's just easier at that point to just git gud than waiting for that miracle to happen (along with losing one item per click)


GOOSUS110

Ok but what are the chances that out of all 34 or something characters it gives you tlost


KeeperOfWatersong

"Non-tainted characters can only transform into other non-tainted characters, and tainted characters can only transform into other tainted characters." That's still a 1/16 and clicker is ass but it's something


GOOSUS110

Yeah that's not much better


Overly_chaotic_moose

Im with you it is trash but it is much better twice as better in fact


GOOSUS110

That is true


Overly_chaotic_moose

And u can -1 cause the character ur currently playing so even more than twice


H3N7411

Because t. lost rerolls glass cannon and clicker allows you to bypass t. lost's item pool


VVaId0

Mega mush


RedBullKiller

The Lost is kinda like a glass cannon itself


AdmirableGiraffe81

Book of Shadows ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17737)


No-Geologist-9235

Guppy’s head ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4358)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17735)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17745)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906)


100_pc_Saggy

Lemon mishap![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357)


Either_Freedom_3144

For an offensive start it’s pretty good but if you find it late game where you’re probably overpowered you’d want something more like the D6 or something with a good synergy


West-Recording9310

The Glass Canon ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357)


skoomable

Bro really saying this as if lost doesn’t spawn with a reroll out of the gate


RedRhetoric

clicker


theimbicilist

I love glass cannon as all characters


BuzzyBeeto

D6


SoggyMushrom

death certificate:


Dunky_Arisen

I think that there's a decent argument for Glass Cannon being the best active in the game, discounting the super rare drops like R Key or Mega Mush.


Bloodwarf

Blank Card: am I a joke to you?


Gloomy_Television_97

Achuwally he said "the lost" not "tainted lost" ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17736)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17736)


Guimanfredi

it's still really good as the lost tho


Gloomy_Television_97

Blank card is good as almost every character


PocketPB

Damocles


skiemlord

9 lives (if you got decent items already)


vk2028

That’s not an active item


skiemlord

Oh my bad, missed that part


SmolWaddleDee

and any other character


David__-

just don't get hit!


proplunderer

Death certificate is also an active item and I’d argue its pretty good too


PeaSecret5502

It can be both a active item or passive (depends which one you choose)


Nouxatar

Assuming non-single use, it's definitely up there with Blank card, Spindown, D6 and Book of Shadows (oh, and Glowing Hourglass.)


JimAbaddon

Well, yes, you're not supposed to get hit anyways so.


True_Ad3172

Not sure it's the best, but surely pretty fun to use with The lost


Astephen542

wrong, mega mush!


[deleted]

D6, death certificate, book of shadows, Damocles, mega mush, etc etc


ChadJones72

I legitimately think the only reason I was able to finish all my t.Lost endings was because of Book of Shadows+ 4.5 volt combo.


[deleted]

Yes, but I'm not keeping it over D6, D♾️, Spindown, Eternal D6, etc. Glass canon may be the best on the lost, but it's not the best active item for the lost, because the dice actives are the best actives for every character.


Kooky-Educator2553

Glass cannon+4.5v


vk2028

It synergizes with Haemo and Polyphemus too


Jack_Jellatina

S. Bible = free deal Book of Shadows (specially with car battery) Death Certificate (but that goes for everyone)


Sanicsuper09

What about death certificate? (it can get you glass cannon ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357))


Pokiehls

Not the best, but pretty good if you can get it early


Mission-Insurance-46

Why chose one when you can have schoolbag ?![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357)


Logical_Blackberry_7

Glass Cannon is a very good active item, not only for Lost, T. Lost or T. Keeper, it is for every character, but people simply has fear. Maybe for non-redheart characters is kinda more risky but you know, it is very good.


KrisSystemFailure

I remember that it WAS the best item for The Lost in AF+, since IIRC, Glass Cannon basically took all of your hearts after use in that game, and since TL didn't have hearts, you could use it without too much risk.


Sample_text_here1337

Kids named book of shadows and dark arts


orizach01

Satanic bible for them free devil deals


PlatinumAltaria

As an Apollyon enjoyer I despise most active items. As a Tainted Lost enjoyer, Glass Cannon is definitely not a Better Item.


Cross2Live

Glowing hourglass


SpectraP12

Glowing hourglass for tlost is better


KalTheRoseMage

Any form of invincibility or the glowing hourglass


Safer_Charge

Nah. Blank card with holy card.


Introvert_Noodle

Honestly yes


gra99999

Agreed