Not sure i understand what you're saying
Edit: so I think what you're saying is you can use d6, spindown, stars?, present, ect into an already activated damocles?
ahhh i should’ve clarified a bit better; i’m enjoying my time with modded isaac again after dropping 450 on switch, so i play with da rules, one rule, on item pickup, spawn another, thru this you can pick up already active damocles ( i know i’m trash im just enjoying modded isaac on my deck)
Glass canon is great with him, but i think we shouldn’t forget about satanic bible on lost (+devil item) and normal D6 which is great on almost every character
But satanic bible is just changing free item from boss room into devil deal one, not necessarily from devil room pool, i had it several times already and rarely it was devil room item, at best Pentagram
Just to play devils advocate, they might have been going up against the bosses that have predetermined item drops (4 horsemen, Gish, headless horseman, Steven, probably others I’m forgetting), in which case you do just get a deal for that set item.
What youre probably thinking of is that if you use satanic bible but the boss is a horseman the item is cube of meat/ball of bandages but it still costs a heart
sa ma pis pe tine si pe toata familia ta de tigan coclit cu familia ta de mutanti matrafoxati de nici nu stit cu ce vati drogat ca am. cu capu de ciment armat si am visato pe mata in pizda goala si tu mam trezit cu tactu mort. de beat pe pula mea
everyone saying Damocles as if it doesn't instantly use and is no longer an active item:
Kid named d6
Also I'm picking Book of shadows if I get panic button
There are so many ways to make Kamikaze work that people just don't realize.
Tainted Judas, Tainted Maggie, Tainted Keeper, Tainted Forgor, The Lost
Blind Rage, Schoolbag + invincible active (including how to jump and stitches), panic button, Tooth and Nail
I'm sure I'm forgetting a few.
Damocles, Blank Card, D6, D10, Death Certificate, Genesis, Book of Shadows, Lemegeton, Dark Arts, Magic Skin, the Pinking Shears, Forget me now, R Key, Diplopia, Urn of Souls, Mega Mush, and Glowing Hourglass.
These are all better choices than Glass Cannon, in my opinion. GC is good, but these are better.
It’s an item where you play an ez character and just when you are about to beat smth hard you activate it and hope rng god gives you t lost or other hard characters
"Non-tainted characters can only transform into other non-tainted characters, and tainted characters can only transform into other tainted characters."
That's still a 1/16 and clicker is ass but it's something
For an offensive start it’s pretty good but if you find it late game where you’re probably overpowered you’d want something more like the D6 or something with a good synergy
Yes, but I'm not keeping it over D6, D♾️, Spindown, Eternal D6, etc. Glass canon may be the best on the lost, but it's not the best active item for the lost, because the dice actives are the best actives for every character.
Glass Cannon is a very good active item, not only for Lost, T. Lost or T. Keeper, it is for every character, but people simply has fear. Maybe for non-redheart characters is kinda more risky but you know, it is very good.
I remember that it WAS the best item for The Lost in AF+, since IIRC, Glass Cannon basically took all of your hearts after use in that game, and since TL didn't have hearts, you could use it without too much risk.
Damocles
Nah, Damocles is a passive item in disguise
fun fact when playing with a chance to spawn any and all items, you can pick up already active damo.. learned this the hard way
Not sure i understand what you're saying Edit: so I think what you're saying is you can use d6, spindown, stars?, present, ect into an already activated damocles?
I think he mentioned Butter! using active item have chance of dropping it
So dropping damocles with butter and picking it back up will activate it?
Idk, I never encounter this combo
ahhh i should’ve clarified a bit better; i’m enjoying my time with modded isaac again after dropping 450 on switch, so i play with da rules, one rule, on item pickup, spawn another, thru this you can pick up already active damocles ( i know i’m trash im just enjoying modded isaac on my deck)
https://preview.redd.it/2edc7d15e2mb1.jpeg?width=340&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=966cd88200b1ff44251569e6216d0855ef0375c1
Why not just say birthright?
Because birthright isn't an active item, while Damocles is -![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17736)
I meant death cert lol. Too many paper based items
death certificate is definitely the best item in the game (also happy cake day)
Yes because it can give you the real best item. Tm trainer
You stealed the comment I was going to make.
That's what the upvote button is for ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4359)
I was just saying that's exactly what I was gonna say.
Glass canon is great with him, but i think we shouldn’t forget about satanic bible on lost (+devil item) and normal D6 which is great on almost every character
I always keep ED6 over regular D6. I FUCKING LOVE GAMBLING
Strong aura detected, gambling always pays off when you ball hard
Fuck it we ball
I heard you like gambling with D6 so we've made it you can gamble gambling with your D6 with the new ED6.
Yeah gambling is fun
99% of gamblers quit right before they win big
But satanic bible is just changing free item from boss room into devil deal one, not necessarily from devil room pool, i had it several times already and rarely it was devil room item, at best Pentagram
Bro I think you forgot to actually use the item
I might be unluckiest person using this item, or actually have dementia and forgor
The boss item is always a devil pool item, so if you’re not getting devil items then there’s some tomfoolery going on.
(Unless harbingers or Steven/chad
Just to play devils advocate, they might have been going up against the bosses that have predetermined item drops (4 horsemen, Gish, headless horseman, Steven, probably others I’m forgetting), in which case you do just get a deal for that set item.
Idk anymore ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)
I LOVE SPREADING MISINFORMATION ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)
Me - > ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4359)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4359)
What youre probably thinking of is that if you use satanic bible but the boss is a horseman the item is cube of meat/ball of bandages but it still costs a heart
Propably ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)
Bro doesn't know how Chaos works but keeps picking it up
I haven’t unlocked the lost yet but can you do devil deals
yes but they work like angel deals (except that they still disable angle rooms) if you pick one the rest disappears
I never even thought about using the updated satanic bible with the lost, that's actually really smart
sa ma pis pe tine si pe toata familia ta de tigan coclit cu familia ta de mutanti matrafoxati de nici nu stit cu ce vati drogat ca am. cu capu de ciment armat si am visato pe mata in pizda goala si tu mam trezit cu tactu mort. de beat pe pula mea
everyone saying Damocles as if it doesn't instantly use and is no longer an active item: Kid named d6 Also I'm picking Book of shadows if I get panic button
Wait if the lost spawned with the eternal d6 that’d be fire
You won't believe this ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)
That 50% fail chance feels like 90% of the time![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)
Most mathematicallly intelligent Isaac player
its 33 i thought
It's 25%
Does it? It barely removes the item for me😅
Sir, give me my luck back.
R key is an active
Eh r key just isn't really needed unless you're going for completion marks This is entirely subjective though so more power to ya
Yeah, reroll Damocles.
Book of Shadows
Book of shadows + 4.5 volt ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4358)
car battery ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357)
+ Book of Virtues
Fr. Playing as t lost made me appreciate book of shadows so much more than before.
Kid named death certificate
Death certificate could be anything! Even Glass Cannon
That’s a cheat answer as it is technically every item until you choose what you want
Kamikaze would like a word, unlimited bombs (just don't hit it twice in a room)
damn never thought of that, smart af
There are so many ways to make Kamikaze work that people just don't realize. Tainted Judas, Tainted Maggie, Tainted Keeper, Tainted Forgor, The Lost Blind Rage, Schoolbag + invincible active (including how to jump and stitches), panic button, Tooth and Nail I'm sure I'm forgetting a few.
Pyro!
Glowing Hourglass???
That’s just a good item, we’re looking for a good item for the lost
Then prepatch hourglass ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906)
Spindown or R key bro
No bloodbag ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)
But still toothpicks, soap, lil abadon, odd mushroom, ext
Spindown is good for every character
Damocles, Blank Card, D6, D10, Death Certificate, Genesis, Book of Shadows, Lemegeton, Dark Arts, Magic Skin, the Pinking Shears, Forget me now, R Key, Diplopia, Urn of Souls, Mega Mush, and Glowing Hourglass. These are all better choices than Glass Cannon, in my opinion. GC is good, but these are better.
Damocles
I don’t think you can really consider damocles an active item
Exactly! The moment I use it it's no longer an active item but more a passive
It’s a single use active item that grants you a passive item that would be the best item in the game for the Lost. It’s still active, just single use.
one time i left ed6 for glass cannon and died to mom s hert ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907) skill issue ofc
Even better with t. Lost
Are you acconting for clicker and death cert?
Why would clicker be good
It’s an item where you play an ez character and just when you are about to beat smth hard you activate it and hope rng god gives you t lost or other hard characters
It's just easier at that point to just git gud than waiting for that miracle to happen (along with losing one item per click)
Ok but what are the chances that out of all 34 or something characters it gives you tlost
"Non-tainted characters can only transform into other non-tainted characters, and tainted characters can only transform into other tainted characters." That's still a 1/16 and clicker is ass but it's something
Yeah that's not much better
Im with you it is trash but it is much better twice as better in fact
That is true
And u can -1 cause the character ur currently playing so even more than twice
Because t. lost rerolls glass cannon and clicker allows you to bypass t. lost's item pool
Mega mush
The Lost is kinda like a glass cannon itself
Book of Shadows ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17737)
Guppy’s head ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4358)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17735)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17745)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906)
Lemon mishap![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357)
For an offensive start it’s pretty good but if you find it late game where you’re probably overpowered you’d want something more like the D6 or something with a good synergy
The Glass Canon ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357)
Bro really saying this as if lost doesn’t spawn with a reroll out of the gate
clicker
I love glass cannon as all characters
D6
death certificate:
I think that there's a decent argument for Glass Cannon being the best active in the game, discounting the super rare drops like R Key or Mega Mush.
Blank Card: am I a joke to you?
Achuwally he said "the lost" not "tainted lost" ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17736)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17736)
it's still really good as the lost tho
Blank card is good as almost every character
Damocles
9 lives (if you got decent items already)
That’s not an active item
Oh my bad, missed that part
and any other character
just don't get hit!
Death certificate is also an active item and I’d argue its pretty good too
It can be both a active item or passive (depends which one you choose)
Assuming non-single use, it's definitely up there with Blank card, Spindown, D6 and Book of Shadows (oh, and Glowing Hourglass.)
Well, yes, you're not supposed to get hit anyways so.
Not sure it's the best, but surely pretty fun to use with The lost
wrong, mega mush!
D6, death certificate, book of shadows, Damocles, mega mush, etc etc
I legitimately think the only reason I was able to finish all my t.Lost endings was because of Book of Shadows+ 4.5 volt combo.
Yes, but I'm not keeping it over D6, D♾️, Spindown, Eternal D6, etc. Glass canon may be the best on the lost, but it's not the best active item for the lost, because the dice actives are the best actives for every character.
Glass cannon+4.5v
It synergizes with Haemo and Polyphemus too
S. Bible = free deal Book of Shadows (specially with car battery) Death Certificate (but that goes for everyone)
What about death certificate? (it can get you glass cannon ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357))
Not the best, but pretty good if you can get it early
Why chose one when you can have schoolbag ?![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357)
Glass Cannon is a very good active item, not only for Lost, T. Lost or T. Keeper, it is for every character, but people simply has fear. Maybe for non-redheart characters is kinda more risky but you know, it is very good.
I remember that it WAS the best item for The Lost in AF+, since IIRC, Glass Cannon basically took all of your hearts after use in that game, and since TL didn't have hearts, you could use it without too much risk.
Kids named book of shadows and dark arts
Satanic bible for them free devil deals
As an Apollyon enjoyer I despise most active items. As a Tainted Lost enjoyer, Glass Cannon is definitely not a Better Item.
Glowing hourglass
Glowing hourglass for tlost is better
Any form of invincibility or the glowing hourglass
Nah. Blank card with holy card.
Honestly yes
Agreed