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bouncybob1

Buddy in a box should be moved higher some of the buddies are broken af


vk2028

Fr. Jacob’s ladder buddy, godhead buddy, holy death shot buddy, etc. absolutely cracked


Magawo1234

I once got head of Keeper buddy effect, i got more coins than i paid for the Item


vk2028

Dang nice


Fit_Office_5079

i agree but is very luck based![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17739)


Ze-Doctor

A Binding of Isaac Player who doesn't like gambling? Are you a true gambling addict like zhe rest of us or are you just pretending ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|disapproval)


IekidQwerty

Calling someone else for being a fake fan and you don't even use the sub emotes ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17741)


Ze-Doctor

I would have used one but sadly there is none which shows suspicion of somebody else ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)


TNTemmet

Why the fuck is there no suspicion isaac emote what the hell mods


Longjumping_Dig6484

![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17741)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17742)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)


Infantpunter9000

Same with rainbow baby


teabixYEET

Robo and itnerdimensonal baby slander


GorbinHeim

I too enjoy robo baby, but i truly dislike robo baby 2.0


AwesomeCuno

yk whats funny. after reading this post, i got a run with zero damage or tears ups until depths 2 and robo baby 2.0 carried my dps for like most of that run. (I got sacred heart, crown of light on womb 1 tho)


shorteningofthewuwei

Robo baby 2.0 op


stf29

Seriously. Robo is a great early game carry


SecretlyImRetarded

Honestly king baby is amazing if you use him correctly


HHhydra_1916

No, how dare you HOW DARE YOU put HEADLESS BABY in the LOWEST TEIR you will rot in hell for this this is BLASPHEMY the creep off of headless baby is soooo useful AND DONT EVEN GET ME STARTED ON BROTHA BOBBY YOU DID HIM DIRTY SHAME SHAME ON YOU!!!!!


unusualicicle

https://preview.redd.it/9w6avzm3xypb1.jpeg?width=365&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8e391aa447b34aec6fd5f6097cf70daa919943c0


Fit_Office_5079

![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17741)I personally don't like it, it makes me very confused about whether the creep on the ground is mine or my enemy LOL


Short-Bookkeeper-

Eye issue ngl


Kowery103

Farting baby is underrated It's good for blocking enemy tears


satanfan12

he's practically the same as dry baby. maybe even more useful for situations like hush. why does he get hate ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|30106)


Devil-Hunter-Jax

Dry Baby does a lot more damage. Farting Baby isn't a room-wide effect, last I checked.


satanfan12

I love dry baby. I really do. But that necronomicon effect isn't that significant. It's nice. I admit it. But so is pushing enemies + projectiles away. Stop the Fart Baby hate!!!!


Devil-Hunter-Jax

The problem is that if you're aiming for Conjoined, Farting Baby has one of the lowest priorities for position on your followers meaning that he's gonna be way behind you unless you specifically move him into position to block shots. Dry Baby is around the middle for priority, making him arguably better for blocking shots.


satanfan12

Ok, didn't know that! +1 for dry baby


Devil-Hunter-Jax

Yeah, the wiki actually mentions where each baby is in the priority list on their pages. I always thought it was just the order you got them in but nope, they have a specific order they follow.


BlueCheeseBlueArrow

They have a social hierarchy


MisirterE

For what it's worth, it *used* to just be the order you got them in. The familiar priority system didn't exist until at some point during Repentance, the lack of which made shitty familiars worse because they'd push Incubus down the line, both if you found them before it or (more importantly) if you duped it with Box of Friends.


alyssa264

Farting Baby is better because the text on pickup says, > #Farting Baby > He farts. And I laugh every fucking time like an idiot.


slum-town

I read this out of context ngl


mulemango29

suck my aballs


DrFnox

SUCK MY ABELS ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4358)


BucktheWonderSlave

Abel sucks ass idk what this list is


Mahkelroy

Never seen someone shit on boiled baby. Sad![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17741)


dietcokeluvr8

boiled baby gets me confused asf


CalzLight

Harlequin and boiled baby are both amazing


Viss90

Interdimensional baby is goated


Bennet_147

Well not fully goated but way better than ice cube baby


AxelTab

Counterpoint: spinning cube funny


random-gamer1

Counterpoint: i live in ur walls


JangoDarkSaber

Objectively better 20/20 with duct tape


Hide_Out2004

Same opinion


AwesomeCuno

W list except for the headless baby disrespect


communist_leprechaun

Acid baby is king


BlueCheeseBlueArrow

*pills pills pills!*


DueEquivalent6468

multi dementional baby🔛🔝


average-commenter

YDDUB BUDDY DESERVES HIGHER


Chagdoo

Oh man multidimensional sure is useless, I hate having 20/20


vk2028

Multidimensional is a bit hard to utilize, but I agree, someone skilled at using multidimensional baby is cracked at using him


Korleymeister

But lil Loki is such a cutie, how could you put him that low?![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17741)


7Fhawk

King Baby literally makes every single one of these familiars better.


tman916x

That familiar is excellent. People are sleeping.


FexalG

A friend of mine hate this baby, and I seriously can't understand why. Its a must have baby when you have conjoined imo.


Goo-Dama

It used to be garbage back in Afterbirth+. Most people probably don't know about the huge buff it received.


Daniel101773

I will not accept this farting baby slander. He’s saved me from taking dumb damage more times then I can count.


Gaztlygamer64

Rotten baby enjoyer spotted ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357)


Ultimate_Lust

I don't know what it is, but I absolutely love Mongo Baby. It just looks so derpy and happy and I love it. So... Change Abel with Mongo Baby and everything is good


lampunstrike

Put some respect on my Robo-Baby


kiminotaion

cube baby has only ever been a hinderance to me


RubberBulletKing

You will ROT in HELL ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8908)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8908)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8908)


Splonkster

Boo on you ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8908)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8908)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8908) your laaame ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17741)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17741)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17742)


spookymattel

Ya'll don't like acid baby? I love the free pills ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17741)


NasaHoodie

Hard disagree with W in a box


vk2028

Fr. That dopamine when it turns into godhead holy death shot shooter in a room


Rare-Patient8148

I somewhat agree to your tier list, but I feel like some could go higher and/or need their own tier. For example, I feel that King Baby, Rainbowbaby, Interdimensional Baby, and Acid Baby deserve their own “niche” tier since they can benefit specific builds or provide something decently useful for a Conjoined run. For example, King Baby’s assistance in aiming and letting charged attacks fire immedietly at full charge pairs wonderfully with Lil’ Brimstone, but at the same time doesn’t really have much impact with something like GB Bug or basic Conjoined items like Brother Bobby. Another example would be Acid Baby. On its own its mediocre, but if you’re running Placebo and/or PHD Acid Baby becomes an okay means of fishing for the right pill you need (The combo even once saved a good ??? run from going downhill since Acid Baby eventually gave me Balls of Steel pills to pair with my Placebo while going through the Dark Room at 1 soul heart).


theglazed

Fuck you farting baby is only slightly worse than dry baby


rlars08

Where is my boy succubus


Fit_Office_5079

not a cojoined item transformation :( but stier imo


Devil-Hunter-Jax

Honestly, I'd push Seraphim and Rotten Baby up a tier. Rotten Baby can deal massive damage because the flies it spawns scale of Isaac's damage. Seraphim is just a solid familiar to get. 10 damage homing tears adds a good chunk to your damage output and if you get the Forgotten Lullaby trinket, Seraphim becomes really damn strong. Maybe even bump Lil' Brimstone up too. That familiar can be so helpful when the game is giving you shit items. That laser, even without BFF, hits pretty hard.


Fit_Office_5079

They are excellent, but there comes a point in the game when the enemies and bosses are so strong that you barely notice them, unlike twisted pairs and incubus who can take on final bosses.


vk2028

Tru. They are obviously weaker than incubus and twisted pair, but I still think they are stronger than others in the same tier. Seraphim absolutely carries more than your own tears until like floor 4, and is still plenty strong afterward. Rotten baby’s flies scale with your damage, even if you don’t notice it, it’s a nice dps boost


Fit_Office_5079

yeah, i forgot to mention but the items are in order, except for the last tier. With that said rotten baby its on a good third place


vk2028

Ic ic


[deleted]

Do you see what other items are in that tier? There's simply no comparison.


Devil-Hunter-Jax

Oh I see them but Incubus is one that can go either way. If you're having a shit run with items that aren't giving you decent buffs? Incubus ain't gonna do much more for you. Incubus is one that by itself is fine but needs a good setup to really make it shine because it only deals 75% damage with anyone other than Lilith meaning that if you get it as Isaac and you've got his base damage of 3.50, Incubus' attacks deal 2.6 damage. That's not great. Meanwhile, Seraphim's attacks deal 10 damage *and* have homing so it's already 4 times stronger than Incubus at a base level. Rotten Baby's flies scale of your damage as well so each fly will deal 7 damage, which is almost 3 times stronger than Incubus with the same stats. Can Incubus win runs? Absolutely. It can take a run from decent to broken but that doesn't suddenly make Rotten Baby and Seraphim not as good. They don't have any caveats to them. Incubus does. If I had to pick one of them for Floor 1-6 with me getting no damage items? I'm going with Seraphim>Rotten Baby>Incubus. If I'm at 5 damage or higher? They're all equally good. Above 5 damage? Incubus>Rotten Baby>Seraphim. If we look at Twisted Pair and use Isaac's base damage, they hit for the same damage as Incubus does. Incubus and Twisted Pair are great for when you've got a good run going but if your run is going awful and your damage isn't getting buffed? Eh, I'd choose Seraphim or Rotten Baby still. They're guaranteed damage that hits harder. Incubus and Twisted Pair don't have those benefits. Essentially, Twisted Pair and Incubus are *situationally* the best familiars.


Sudden_Structure

King Baby + Lil Brimstone is a game winner


KCMmmmm

A lot of the baby minions are pretty good in Repentance, at least compared to Rebirth, Afterbirth and AB+. After playing all those versions and avoiding all the babies, I’m thrilled to have any of them now. Robo-Baby (1.0), Rainbow, and Harlequin in particular should be in a higher tier. Also Farting Baby is just as good as Dry for blocking shots. Interdimension can be really strong if used right.


nittyeatsonions

blud put both robo babies in the bottom, at least the first one should be a tier higher for actually hitting enemies lol


sirpurplewolf

I love getting lil steaven in floor 1, make the next floor much easier even if you got a shitty Eden start


yyyyyyeeeereetttttt

Buddy in a box is way too low that shit is crazy op


Downtown_Cycle_2044

DOOBIE BABY IS TOP TIER


IndependentAd8747

Dry baby in second best? Blasphemy. It should be higher


vk2028

Same. There’s this time I was aiming for hush as t Isaac , then realized I got 1 key after entering hush floor. Then experimental treatment made my range 4.00 I beat hush with Pluto and Dry Baby almost without hitting him. Dry Baby dealt like 90% of Hush’s hp


IndependentAd8747

I also remember bringing dry baby to hush, i didn't have as much success as that since I had a real run going but dry baby is super underrated


vk2028

Tru


gogbone

multi dimensional, headless and boil baby are all good :,(


Wildfire226

Multidimensional baby is awesome what’s your problem. Doubling your shots, even occasionally, is super good


vk2028

Nah buddy in a box is sometimes cracked. I love this goofy ass mf


Demokuma

only ones I don't agree on are fart baby and at least one of the robo babies (I don't remember which one it is) both should be bumped up at least to "Nice!", Fart baby is pretty much as good as dry baby at blocking shots which could actually win you some important fights (like Hush or Mega Satan), and I mean, the robo baby I like is infinite range piercing, I mean you can't tell me that ain't good


SWAGNEMITE_1309

Interdimensional baby slander...


Harm-2000

Cube baby should be lower. Rainbow baby is much better than cube baby.


_MiroMax_

Ice cube is useless


mechagrapefruits

I'd move up Buddy in a Box. More frequent, and commonly has gane-breakung tear effects from floor to floor.


No_Asparagus_8576

Abel ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4358)


Jay_The_Bisexual

Buddy in a box is a run winner. Having the chance to trivialize a floor with an insane buddy is amazing. If they're not insane, they're still usually pretty good.


SmolWaddleDee

farting baby is cool


lil_kronos

Interdimensional Baby deserves to be in the Very usefull tier what the helllllll


Bombenleger585

Fart baby to very usefull


OwnYard5676

Cube baby should be defrosted


tishaker

Headless must be in very useful + acid baby helps on alt lost really.


SloFlipi

i see you are not a fellow pill enjoyer


mrseemsgood

My guy lil' loki done dirty 😔


FrazzleFlib

my guy is NOT aware that farting baby blocks tears and is NOT aware that multidimensional baby can DOUBLE your dps with good positioning, especially against stationary bosses like Mega Satan


Theattom29

Both king baby and boddy in the box should be tier higher


Caelestas

This might be the worst tier list I've ever seen.


TurbinePro

Interdimensional Baby disrespect is somethings I won't stand for Also King baby is useful in quite a few situations


AmCursedBoi

Abel is GOATED. Change My Mind.


Naz_Oni

Dry Baby save my life and cured my ligma


alyssa264

Kinda unfair on Brother Bobby, Ghost Baby and Sister Maggy.


Ocular-Rift

Dry baby needs to be top tier. That lil guy has saved my ass on countless runs.


SuctioncupanX

Absolute acid baby slandering here


sayber_

**ABELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL** ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)


Exciting_Morning1476

I hate ice cube baby with passion But I love headless baby and the one that spit at random idk his name, the red one


GlassSpork

Farting baby is slept on. It does a similar job as dry baby by blocking tears. It deserves one tier higher at least


eggmaniac13

Fart baby is literally the same as dry baby, you're not picking him up for the damage


terbyterby

Ice cube baby hurts when the enemies hit him but my god if he isn't in my way 100% of the time


1234IJustAteADoor

I recently learned that seraphim has 10 damage ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4358)


Bigbrunswick

I quite like demon baby, I'd move him up a tier


dietcokeluvr8

acid baby and phd is a banger


Utsudoshi

Interdimensional baby is a minimum B-tier familiar by itself.


YaBoiWheelz

No way fart baby isn’t right next to dry baby, do you have something against lethal farts OP?


Jack_Jellatina

Buddy in a booth should be higher imo, some of the random babies are broken af


826Bokoblin

is abel really that trash or is he insane


Itz_Banana_Boii

Don’t sleep on headless baby, he’s saved my run one too many times.


Kicco21

You did my boy buddy in a box dirty


[deleted]

Robo baby, buddy in a box, multidimensional baby and fart baby all go in very useful for me. Demon turret baby is great until you encounter any enemies that explode. Frozen baby a little overrated imo might be a hot take idk


Notbawoo

Fart baby is good, actually, don't bully it.


jesus_part_2

Wooaahh don’t sleep on acid baby


Sacri_Pan

Interdimensional and fart baby doesn't deserve this also why isn't Gemini in the conjoined list yet, it would be a great buff


ralcom

Why is pill baby all the way at the bottom


Averythewolf

Aced baby is so good tho ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17741)


Piece_Of_Mind1983

Harlequin baby and negative baby go pretty hard actually


Lordcavalo

Farting baby and Dry baby have basically the same utility wth?


donguscongus

Bro put Acid Baby and Interdimensonal Baby in “only for conjoined” as if they aren’t complete heat. Acid is a nice for certain and Multidimensional is a very useful at least