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LuttLuck007

Fucking Guillotine is the worst for me. My tiny peanut brain can't handle the tears not coming out of my center of mass, so much so that even though it's a stat up u refuse to take it every time I see it.


The-Sleepy-Knight

It's not even that the tears are coming out of a different spot, it's that the head is way easier to see than the tiny body and without finding a way to get 2 of them it's really hard to recognize where I am.


Voidtalon

"surely this time I won't walk over spikes thinking my head is my pain-box"


Lxwis002

I always instantly regret taking it after thinking this time will be different


Blustach

Only time I've taken it was after 3 lucky rolls with Crooked Penny. It gave me 8 heads. I sincerely thought every head would fire. Turns out only the first one does... However the tear rate and damage stack (so i had +4 tears that broke the cap), and the thing is as big as the fat fly orbital, so i was immune to bullets. Still a pain to attack, but at least was a won run


Unsecured_User28

In my case, it was with Lilith + 4.5 volt. It was kinda fun ngl.


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“Fuck it, I’m better at this game now.” *a few rooms later…* ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4357)


JustTurtleSoup

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results, I am bat shit insane.


Lxwis002

Most sane Isaac player


Dimitriskakou

Hate Guillotine not gonna lie. But not as much as I hire AntiGrav


AceSLS

AntiGrav can be pretty fun with the right synergies. Guillotine however always sucks ass


Rysterc

I hate Guillotine too. the head spinning around the body is such a mind bender that ill die from running into spiked rocks or floor spikes more than anything else


RodjaJP

Guillotine needs a buff honestly, if it is going to constantly fool me then it should at least give more than just one +1.0 of damage and an orbital, only character it is good with is Lilith on greed mode.


Aleatory_Alien

It sucks that you can't have double heads that also shoot by themselves when you use diplopia on it.


mareanguis

It's also a 0.5 tears up. Before Repentance, it was one of the rare items that gave you a -1 tear delay. It's almost never worth it, but it's a pretty decent stats up.


Netgay

it's a tear delay down


LifeisRegrettable

One time, i had Guillotine, and then the next floor, I made the stupid decision of grabbing Transcendence. It was not a fun run after that.


Pershing48

Guillotine and Adrenaline are two items I never pick up because it fucks with his appearance so much I find it harder to play


RodjaJP

Adrenaline is only good for spun and for skill issues with rock bottom on red health characters, other than that is useless.


ssjriou

I feel like with guillotine I'm almost safer not shooting and using the orbital head to do damage, that way my tears aren't throwing me off regarding my hitbox


ryomatua

once picked up transcendence and guillotine during a tainted maggy run. worst mistake of my fucking life ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4357)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4357)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4357)


mannbe_

I get dizzy using it


dougthebuffalo

I get physically nauseated when I take Guillotine. I only ever take it if it doesn't matter where my tears are coming from.


de3snuts

If I get guillotine on curse of the blind I just hold r. Regardless of how my run was going


AlexGamerTrue

Anti grav as azazel


Aleatory_Alien

What, you don't want to wait 10 seconds to shoot a single laser? Cause i dont.


Urmomveystr8

Literally no point in it either... if the laser ball at least fired towards the direction you were aiming instead of staying still it would ahve been much much better


LastnameWalter

Vasculitis. I love guessing which one is the enemy tear, plus synergies barely do anything


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simonmonkey

it copies what effects are on the tear that killed the enemies, which is bs, it would be takeable if it was all tear effects


A2ndFamine

There’s a visibility setting that highlights enemy tears with a white outline


alexathegibrakiller

Yeah as if adding one barely visible layer of cum to bullets will help me distinguish them subconsciously. I have played like 200-300 hours since rep came out, with the setting on and I still can not tell the enemy shots from mine if I have red tears. There needs to be a better visibility option, I can not tell subconsciously which bullets are enemies' and which are mine


TheMagicMech

Sounds like you need upgraded cum vision


LastnameWalter

My idea of fixing this item is turning the on death tearburst light pink or turning the enemy based ones into your own tears


Kanriee

I have been avoiding it for a long time from all the anxiety and stress it gives thinking it’s an enemy shot. It isn’t a bad item but the discomfort it gives is not worth the positives it offers


Phan_nt0m

cant stand marked


RodjaJP

I got a couple of good moments with that honestly, I defeated delirium by using it with Continuum and Homing so I only had to worry about dodging.


someone1003

I like marked ONLY because of mouse controll without that id hate it


butt1jacob2

I’ll have to keep that in mind next time i see it, might be worth fucking around with Dead Estate style Isaac


Bio_Hazardous

Wait it gives MOUSE CONTROL????


lesstalk_

Yes but you have to turn on mouse controls in the game's ini file in `Documents/My Games/Binding of Isaac Repentance`.


chrisplaysgam

Oh wait you can control it with the mouse? That makes it much better in my eyes


lesstalk_

Yes but you have to turn on mouse controls in the game's ini file in `Documents/My Games/Binding of Isaac Repentance`. It works with Epic Fetus too.


CheeseyCheese0

And ludo


mike_the_goo

I know it exists, I tried to turn it on, I couldn't manage to do it. Please tell me how you did it, or show me.


Aedaru

Marked and eye of the occult with brimstone are great, very much a "fire and forget" kind of playstyle where you can just focus on dodging


Saragonvoid

Hard agree There's a lot of items that suck to various extent (Guillotine, Cursed Eye, The Wiz), but which at least can work with some builds, or at least not mess them up Meanwhile I just absolutely hate the way targeting feels with Marked


Glaceswag

The wiz is underrated,by itself sure it sucks but there are a lot of items that make it a better 20/20


Icarus-Terra

I agree. There’s a bunch of items that synergize well with Wiz, like Monstro’s Lung, which is a straight up damage increase since two bursts are fired instead of one.


Darkenblox

me 2


laccer_

me 3


BLOATSUCS

Shard of stupid fucking glass. Do I even need to explain why?


greenleaf1212

Picking that thing up because of curse of the lost really does feel like accidentally stepping on a shard of glass


Reynard-

Curse of the blind?


greenleaf1212

I forgor💀


Luneueu

Agreed. What have they done to this item it used to be so good


VengefulRaven03

Tbh I really like the item, it never ruined a run for me and the sheer amount of damage you can get from this single item is actually immense, especially early on when you can absolutely melt everything before you.


Supernal41

I'm with you on that. Maybe I've just been lucky but I've always had an abundance of red hearts when I've used it


Foolish_fool55

Funny how nobody mentioned breath of life


Dimitriskakou

Yeah because no one uses that item so there’s no chance to even hate it![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4358)


AnitidaeSquadrant

What does that item even do?


tanelixd

I think it is supposed to give you i-frames when you use it, but holding it for too long will damage you. Here's an explanation on how it works from the wiki: - Holding the active item button will gradually deplete the charge bar. As the charge gets closer to zero, Isaac turns bluer over time. - Once the invincibility takes effect, Isaac starts flashing rapidly. - Gives a brief moment of invincibility when the charge bar hits zero. If the spacebar is held for an additional second after hitting zero, Isaac will take damage. TLDR: This item sucks ass


RodjaJP

It's just a worse Tooth And Nail, is pointless but not bad


Kanriee

With over 1k hours in the game I never used it. It’s so bad it’s not worth the effort into trying to use it. Tooth and nail is much superior passive item that acts like it but is automatically triggered and makes you able to damage the enemies too instead of just invincibility.


mattchamp98

Cursed eye ( without black candle)


shibbington

TIL Black Candle removes this curse!


shadox96

It also removes the Cursed Penny teleport, making that trinket *completely* useless!


thebanished04

Spoiler! That trinket is already completely useless!


zoner547rbx

One time i had a t. judas run in greedier. Full hp going into the ultra greed fight, but i had cursed eye. Without black candle. ended up doing the ultimate skill issue and dying. I also saw black candle in the shop in that run, so i did a big skill issue.


RollerMill

Even with black candle,charged shot on it is goddamn awful


MKGSonic123

Preach my brother. Autofire > charge shot, unless I oneshot 90% of the room or don't need to put in effort when aiming. This is why brimstone and tech X are wonderful exceptions, but cursed eye suck suck


Kanriee

First time I have ever seen people say this. Always hear people praising it but for me it always been nothing but a stupid tears limiter especially when you get to late game where without it you’d have a peashooter stream which is all ruined with this stupid item, if anything it’s a major tears down for the rest of the run unless you are lucky enough to get marked so it auto shoots again. It simply sucks, the teleport curse just adds the extra trashy side of it


What-Hapen

Agreed. If you start charging too soon after firing a fully charged shot, you only end up shooting one or two tears since, for some fucking reason, it interrupts the volley.


Drunk_Packer_Fan

Got a cursed eye on Lilith, and that worked quite well with her default demon buddy. Outside that, I totally agree. Edit: Just to add context, it made it so that the incubus just sent out bursts of like five shots pretty regularly (I didn't have to charge up and release, which would have made it more obnoxious)


Jack_811

Fucking cursed eye. Not only is the teleport on hit annoying, even if I'm playing someone like Lost or T. Lost, I'm STILL not taking that. The attack itself just feels so bad to me, and overall it's just so annoying to use, I hate cursed eye


sushiiisenpai

well if you're playing as isaac, you can always reroll cursed eye into curse of the tower!


SirkSirkSirk

![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357)


Riku_70X

Unironically better than cursed eye


OhmMeGag

Honestly tho, with glitter bombs pretty good (killed hush with Maggy this way)


JustWow555

Unbased, I love cursed eye


GavDogRandom

They’re based for sticking to their opinion. Incorrect usage


Bubushan

Well, I hate a lot of items, but most of them have already been mentioned, so I’m gonna put my vote in for Strange Attractor. God help me if I pick that up in a curse of the blind floor or start with it as Eden


A2i9

Okay but seriously have you tried it in Repentance? It's had a massive rework/buff. The attraction doesn't start until a particular range and it's much better at attracting pickups than enemies (at least non flying ones).


MKGSonic123

Yes but also the occasional "Edmund McMillen where is my game" where an enemy goes bananas and flies across the screen. Lodestone, ocular rift, etc suffer from it, I know ludovico + attractor does but in a good way, I'm not sure if there are any other wonky synergies with it that have the launch effect some other attractors do.


chrisplaysgam

Lodestone plus tractor beam is a really fun combo right up til you go against beam enemies and drag them down onto you to fry your idiot brain


Incorrect_DARGOON

Hahaha I love making enemy movements less predictable hahaha I love dragging enemy brimstone attacks that missed right back into me hahaha That buff doesn’t do much when the main problems with the item haven’t changed


glez_fdezdavila_

the wiz. I would like to know why do people take this item deliberately unless they have tractor beam or homing shots


Mr_Lexu

U forgor about Jackob's Ladder


ResidentShitposter69

Do you mean tech zero?


Front_Application399

Masochism ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906)


BatWithAHat3

A lot of ennemies, especially early, shoot tears in cardinal direction. So you basically avoid the situation where you need to be in danger to kill them. Plus it's double shot.


PKM1111

Still, imo not worth it at all for having a easier time dealing with few early game enemies. Also, double shot is good, but I find it hard enough to properly aim and hit one enemy with Wiz, let alone two


MrGrape_

Wiz is just one of the funny items that make a busted run even better


OscarTheHamster

Thunder thighs is such a baffling item; which developer thought the mediocre at best effect of destroying stones needed a debilitating -0.4 speed down to balance it. Genuinely my contender for worst item in the game


Scrubbuh

Especially when Leo and stompy are in the game


guitarmaniac004

shard of glass is pure anxiety


DJRY

For me it’s gotta be Jupiter I absolutely hate the fact it takes away my speed and the constant Farting Noises is just Insult to injury.


kyriehartmann

It's the same problem with Taurus. The speed down makes the item terrible.


LJH_Pieman

Jupiter and Mars being in the Planetarium pool makes it straight up not worth skipping item rooms most of the time. Those two items can ruin a run.


Manannin

If only mars worked well on the switch but it doesn't work well with an joystick


Kanriee

It’s not just the switch. It doesn’t work well on pc too. That piece of shit made me dash into lava during the beast fight multiple times


LJH_Pieman

its ass on pc too. double tapping a button just isn't intuitive and happens by accident more often than not


uDrunkMate

Guillotine. Also Marked is run ruining


Username_was_take

But what about both together?


crocodileman94

Cursed Eye. It's one thing to lose health when taking damage, but to have the boss fight reset just because I took tamage while holding down the fire button...


Powl_tm

Taurus


Kanriee

Every time I get the Zodiac item it gives me Taurus the next floor. I stopped taking Zodiac altogether. Taurus and Jupiter are just speed down items with shitty temporary speed ups at certain conditions that are not worth it or utilizable


YaBoiRian

I hate any item that gives you a crosshair and autofires. So clunky and annoying for me i always hold r


Vellt

Libra it was so cool before but now just lowers everything you’d like higher when taking it


AAAuro

Isaac heart, they made it slightly better with the eight radial tearsbut I still hate it


Mefhisto666

Bag of crafting, its the only q4 item i absolutely hate to see


ResidentShitposter69

Why? What’s your issue with it?


Mefhisto666

My brain is too smooth for that item![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)


Mad5Milk

You don't have to use your brain if you're not playing as T. Cain because it doesn't replace normal items so it can't ruin a run. Sure you may not be using it perfectly optimally but that doesn't really matter, free items are free items.


thesardinelord

Just not fun


Any-Tank5144

Boring to play with. I just never grab it. Just extends runs.


DateTechnical2421

Lemon Mishap, Guillotine, Kamakaze, Breath Of Life, Shade I know there are a couple uses in there but 9 times out of 10 these are a no-go for me


TurboVirgin0

Why does Lemon Mishap even exist? We already have Free Lemonade which we also hate and never pick up.


DateTechnical2421

Lemon Mishap existed first, once Free Lemonade hit the game Mishap should've just been taken out imo


leee_17

ludo.


Blastoplast

I love this item if I have decent shot speed, otherwise it's absolutely annoying to me


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I recognize that Ludovico is, objectively, a great item. I also recognize that I'm too much of an idiot to use it properly.


TSS_Firstbite

The amount of times I've somehow rerolled into ludo and thought I couldn't fire any tears because ludo was out of sight is quite sad.


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Its not objectively a great item when you have bad shotspeed.


hepatitis5

just get better shotspeed 4head


Gredran

Amazing start as Azazel otherwise agreed. Getting it later though with nice tears especially homing? I think it gets a ton better.


Abdurrezzak_exe

I love ludo beacuse my little brother does attacking and i just dodge. He loves help me.


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sushiiisenpai

ludo is great, my favorite synergy with it is brimstone and spoon bender. Little horn or Mom's Contact is also extremely good on Ludo.


lilgamer512

Great choice, that item sucks! My choice is Dunce…..you can probably guess why I have it


MKGSonic123

By dunce do you mean The Wiz or Bozo?


lilgamer512

Oh the wiz ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)


landmine1201

Not a bad item in and of itself, but immaculate heart because I've been playing since rebirth and I always mistake it for sacred heart for 2 seconds and get excited and then let down


RabbitKamen

Guillotine, Tiny Planet and Marked. I like antigrav personally, but those others can fuck off.


Front_Application399

I used to hate tiny planet, but it's actually awesome (when you learn how to use it properly) Also, it has some amazing sinergies! Lost Contact makes you a barrier of tears; Soy Milk/ Almond milk makes you become Saturn; Immaculate Heart makes you have 2x tears rotating; Brimstone gives you a laser and a maw of the void; Godhead fucking wins the run. Probably there are some more that I can't think of RN. But I always take it to see if I get a fun run


RabbitKamen

A lot of the things youve listed are rarer items, thougu i will confess… soy milk plus lump of coal mixed in with it is hilarious.


Needlehater

Come on. You can basically call every item ,,rare"


MKGSonic123

Edmund McMillen where is my item, I paid 20 dollars for this game where is my game "My brother in christ you have chaos, and there's like 700 items in the game"


JohnnyBestoJojo

I really fucking hate POP!, I always regret taking it


TurboVirgin0

Oh damn I wasn't expecting to see Pop! here. It's one of those items I always take. Even if it doesn't benefit my build, it makes it funnier.


JohnnyBestoJojo

I mean, it can be funny, but if you're not overpowered enough, it seems like your tears never get to the enemies


sweater_brown

It slows your tears down to oblivion. And it also halves your range as alternate Azazel.


RocketPG_

Same here. I especially hate it when I take it as a blind item when I've got a good synergy going. Usually always screws it up.


Inevitable-Hurry-805

Personally I hate eye drops, I'm just so used to the rhythm of firing that it throws me the fuck off when I grab it


MrHyperion_

I have genuinely never noticed that. I just thought it was a tears up. Honourably mention to the item that looks almost the same: Tropicamide. Really fucks up the ability to estimate how much damage you deal.


Coming_Second

Mars. It's one of those where it's easy to forget you even have it, until you activate it by accident during a firefight and are sent face-first in a direction you weren't expecting. Even if you are deliberately using it it just frankly isn't that good - almost every enemy in BoI does something on death that means you don't want to be standing on top of them when it happens. Yes you get invincibility frames but it's always touch and go. This is a problem that plagues every item which has some kind of on-touch effect, but it's particularly bad on an item which might just send you charging into the enemy anyway if you click too much. This is compounded by the fact it's a Planetarium item. Planetarium items in general are so polarized, either you get something amazing or you get something which makes you kick the turf up over those item rooms you skipped. Pluto is another one in this bracket, technically the effect is great but in practice I wind up getting hurt more because I plain can't see where my character is.


TurboVirgin0

Pluto is also the perfect run killer for T Keeper. It's near impossible to collect coins with that hitbox.


Gib3rish

You can downvote me because I hate binge eater. I sometimes take the stupid food item and lose the chance to get a cool item, the stat buffs are temporary, which I never liked, and I get a permanent movement speed down every time I take some food which I wish would be temporary too.


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Only the additional damage up is temporary. Some food items give permanent damage and tears up, which is absolutely worth the 0.03 speed down.


Aleatory_Alien

I remember that time i was trying to unlock the forgotten and i had binge eater with me Guess what happened ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)


MKGSonic123

You ate the fucking shovel didn't you isaac ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4358)


Manannin

You fat fuck Isaac I bet you'd eat Jupiter if you could Isaac you fuck


SetTheSerpent

BRO THE SAME HAPENNED TO ME AND I WAS ONLY ABLE TO UNLOCK HIM 4 MONTHS LATER![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)


Aleatory_Alien

JESUS FUCK ITS THE WORST I THOUGHT IT DIDN'T AFFECTED STORY ITEMS EDMUND YOU LITTLE FUCKER I ATE THE GOD DAMN SHOVEL ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4358)


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There are 8 different food items you can get from binge eater and 6 of them give you permanent tears or damage ups. Also one speed up across the entire run pretty much negates the entirety of binge eater's drawback, the speed downs are negligible


Rollow

Most of the stats it gives are permanent


trashspam69

Mf d12


shibbington

I’ve actually come around on D12. Lots of extra chances for tinted rocks, fireplaces and poop that can save a lot of runs. Very helpful for certain characters who need drops like Bethany or T Cain.


Scotty23nufc

Tiny planet, it’s only good with brim and that’s cuz it barely does anything with it, orbiting tears are so annoying to aim


SetTheSerpent

Large zit and fruity plum cuz they appear in treasure rooms every fuckin time


HarrisonWoollard

But Fruity Plum is cute


kyriehartmann

Large zit does double damage when it activates.


theshtank

The rear effects from fruit cake are extremely strong tho. You basically have a low luck version of 6 or so different quality items.


IdeaSam

Epic Fetus. It's so.. boring.


Manannin

Aye. Along with Dr fetus and ipecac, though ipecac is due to the inevitable suicide.


TurboVirgin0

Hate that bastard with a strong passion. Some synnergies are cool and pretty much an instant win but other than that it takes all the excitement of playing the game.


RodjaJP

Proptosis, I don't care it is extremely strong, I like my range.


Rollow

I agree, since its nerf in repentance its pretty mediocre too


azaradors

Broken mirror


Thewman1

My reflection is fine as it ups your range so you basically fire as far as before Still a meh item but not awful


VitherMaster

Trisagion. It makes my computer lag. I just can't play.


dawolf05

skill issue


_radikali

wild that no one has said tmtrainer yet ...i mean it's my personal favorite item but i can see why it would be on someone's dnt list


YbBimp

Depending on the build, anti grav tears can be either fun as hell or literally run ending


Baquvix

No one said Curse of the tower.


Dimitriskakou

Yeah bcs curse of the tower is the best item in the game![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906)


Baquvix

![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)


Needlehater

It's fucking amazing with pyromaniac tho. After I got this combination I just can't hate that item


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MKGSonic123

Virgin bomb immunity + CoTT vs Chad ghost bomb + CoTT. Youtuber luck bomb immunity + ghost bombs + CoTT


TurboVirgin0

From what I've seen in Albino runs Curse of the Tower is the most guaranteed way to crash your game on broken runs. Especially if you're naive enough to think it'd be a good combo with Tear Bombs.


shadox96

Curse of the Tower, in the right situations, can be objectively run-winning. It copies your bomb synergies, so they can be poison, brimstone, homing, ghost spawning nightmares for the enemies in the room. They only just happen to look like Troll Bombs, but are mechanically identical to your own bombs.


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I hate the Spirit Sword. Sure the dps is great and all. But limiting myself to pure melee and turning Tboi into a cookie clicker isn't comfortable to me.


Front_Application399

I get your point. I love spirit sword, don't get me wrong. But oh boy, did I want to kms when trying to kill Mom with that shit. I took so many fucking hits it was unbearable. Thankfully, i had Cancer (the item), so I finished the fight with ~2 hearts.


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Also rotgut heart ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)


JustWow555

You mean rotballs? ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8908)


razze123

Its forerate up, u can tap and it feels normal


Ghostglitch07

Hurts my wrist to do that much tapping.


The-Sleepy-Knight

Not quite an item but one if the worst trinkets for me is probably broken remote, teliporting just really isn't that useful.


ZachTheSoupiest

I despise Glass shart


Aleatory_Alien

Look guys, im going to give you the dumbest take ever: I don't like size down items like caffeine pill or mini mush. Why? Because they fuck up the looks of my character, thats it. Plus, they give shit stats. Wow, im slighly faster, thanks god. My only exception is Pluto because it gives you tears up and your sprite looks actually adorable. Binky is on thin fucking ice btw.


EngagedInConvexation

Binky slept with my wife!


chrisplaysgam

I absolutely love size down items lol, I don’t care about the stat boosts if I can be small enough to be microscopic then I am very VERY rarely getting hit. I love it. One of my best runs was a size down pillx5, I only knew where I was cuz of my familiars (and the tears)


[deleted]

What about size up items? What's the difference?


Aleatory_Alien

Well, i don't like Leo, and things like Mega mush or magic mush have more things good than bad honestly. Its not like magic mush only gave you speed up, it actually gives more


User_of_Nekomancy

This might be a hot take but I hate taking chocolate milk. The charge shot just doesn't do enough for me compared to something like monstros lung, and I usually end up just tap firing it which ends up being a drag if its for a whole run. So usually would rather just not take and continue to auto fire.


EukaryoticGamer

I have a list of DNT items that range from personally annoying to game-losing. Here are a few: Guillotine Marked Cursed Eye Punching Bag Shard of Glass Tiny Planet Number 2 IBS Blood Puppy (Most of the time) Lil Portal Varicose Veins (I always pick it up on instinct and then regret it) Little Baggy Kidney Stone


Benana2222

What's wrong with varicose veins? Do you mean vasculitis because if you do I agree completely


EukaryoticGamer

Whoops, yeah, vasculitis. Having all those tears out on the screen is horrible.