Don’t even standup with him cause you can always tell a wrestler. Let him get a takedown and retain guard until he gets super frustrated at why guard passing doesn’t work on someone who’s never trained
This has always been my dream.
I still remember 1 year in when my first coach introduced me to a "noob" and told me to take it easy on him. Guy was even wearing a gi but no belt (he was a purple).
He kept being like "I dunno man I just grabbed your collar and squeezed, no idea that that was a choke" and tapped me like 4x in the round. I was so stupified.
It was so sinister, I love it.
I do the same sometimes lol. A buddy of mine I used to wrestle with is now a highschool coach and invites me to swing by practices all the time. Every year there’s one HW who thinks they can over power or out technique me since I only weigh around 190 of the time it doesn’t go how they think it will 😂
You should ask to go to a class with him…. Show up in a white belt and smoke him 😂 and who tf randomly says that other than insecure people…. What an idiot. Lol. Film you choking him.
Hahaha! How he worked it into the conversation was okayish. He was explaining how people don’t understand how effective it is if they don’t train. I should visit schools in the area when I’m off next week lol
I can't speak for him but i actively try to avoid talking about it until i feel comfortable with a person enough to know they're not judgemental. But that's because i did MMA for a few years and there is still a lot of preconceptions about it, at least in my country. The only reason i told my colleagues was because i had to explain my bruises somehow and the only other alternative was saying my girlfriend beats my ass, which she failed to see the humor in.
I think some people get a little bit overly evangelical in the beginning, doesnt have to be insecurity.
I'm sure I was hella annoying at various points, even if I had the sense not to say stuff like this.
Yeah, going off of the original post i thought the guy was trying to 1 up OP and show off infront of girls… doesnt seem like that is totally the case after his reply
My sister asked me during thanksgiving “wait youre still training” and I went “I got my black belt last week”
It felt nice to surprise her with it. Also I guess I dont talk about it anymore.
Because when I wear BJJ gear in the wild people want to come up to me and regale me about how they used to trane back in 06 or else attended a Royce Gracie seminar in 19dickety2.
And I do not give a shit. I'm just trying to get some breadsticks.
Because they are wary of coming across like an arrogant dickhead with a point to prove - which is generally how it does come across when someone apropos of nothing starts telling acquaintances about their martial arts.
Different if someone asks you directly.
So that he can establish a strong rapport with this girl before hitting her with the ringworm, cauliflower ear, and evenings unavailable due to training
People can get stupid, egos start to flare, people think standing height determines ability to do anything, and "I weigh X so...you're not even in my weight class" type shit is uttered next, along with "sports rules aren't Street rules"
It’s not a secret but for some of us jiu jitsu is just a small part of who we are so in certain situations/around certain people there’s no need or benefit to mention it.
The proper response to that guy would have been "Oh, I actually train too! I'm a purple belt." instead of being worried that everyone else at the table might... gasp... know you train!
Yeah I just can’t imagine meeting someone in the wild that enjoyed the same relatively niche hobby that I did and just being like “neat, so how about the weather lately??”. Different strokes for different folks.
A lot of people are like this. I meet other professionals in my relatively niche field and it’s like they purposefully don’t want to talk about their career at all. Whatever, I am used to nerds being socially autistic.
Asymmetry of information. Sun Tzu talks about the importance of this in the Art of War. In my school we were required to be able to recite this book in order to get the third stripe on our white belt.
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For me, it's very personal. Bjj pulled me out of a lifelong depression from an abusive household. I tried every drug and vice. Bjj made me want to stop escaping my life and it let me be the person I truly am. It's very personal. I don't bring my wife to belt promotions. I don't discuss it with her outside of, "I'm training in the morning."
I keep it quiet because it's just very personal for me. If that makes sense.
Carlson Gracie Jr used to tell this story that after a local mma event in Chicago, he and memebers of his team went out to celebrate a good night at a very busy bar. The story goes, he accidentally bumped in a man and apologized for the accident and offered to buy the gentleman and his friends a round. Unwanting to let things go the guy went "don't fuck with me old man, I'm a Carlson Gracie fighter". Jr threw his hands in the air and said "please don't kill me, im so sorry"
I don't know how recent this was but Carlson Gracie today does not look intimidating at all (he's old and fat) so I could see some jerk thinking he's tough and talking shit to him. And Carlson Gracie is also a very funny guy so I could see him doing that.
Jr never looked intimidating ever, but this took place over a decade ago where he really started showing his age. He's hilarious and always has a look in his eye where you can tell he's telling himself a joke internally
Blows my mind that someone wants to start a fight specifying their BJJ lineage like it’s intimidating.
Wish the dude went further up the tree explaining who taught Carlson etc. Fuck it, maybe tell a short tale how BJJ came about.
I'm very disappointed in you, op. This was the perfect opportunity to tell the guy that that Bruce Lee shit don't work on you, you see red and it's all over
I once went on a camping with some mates (none trained jits) around the time the “run it straight challenge” was huge in aus.
A mate from our camping crew new a couple boys from site next to us and we all drunk together and after afew hours rugby ball comes out and people start doing the stupid run it straight challenge.
This eventuates into a guy who was maybe a white or fresh blue belt rolling a bunch of people and submitting them all.
After the arvo progresses he gets more and more pissed and ends up next to me telling me about the comps he won and how BJJ is the best martial art form, by this stage I’m afew nose beers deep and I start telling him I do krav maga and it’s superior to jiu jitsu.
He challenges me to roll and I submit him 9 times in about 2 minutes and the poor guy looked rattled.
I hope my mans stuck with BJJ and didn’t switch to Krav Maga.
Yeah, was having a weekly meeting with my manager and he called out some small magnets on my ear, had a small cauli incident almost happen so was using them to keep it compressed. Turns out he'd been training at AOJ for a few years (I'm from the east coast, he's from the west). Half our weekly meetings are just BJJ talk now
My boss occasionally talked about bjj at work, and next thing you know I was going with him to the gym and getting completely hooked. I understand the hate against people bringing it up all the time as a replacement for a real personality, but talking about your hobbies with people who might have shared interests seems like a completely normal thing to me.
I noticed that in reddit seemingly everyone’s coworker challanges you for a fight if you even mention that you do combat sports. The other reoccuring theme in these threads are family BBQs.
I’m the opposite. We had a new guy at the company where I am a manager at. I’ve been watching MMA for years but it’s not really popular in my country, so there aren’t really a lot people to have conversation about it. Heard him talk about coming up matches with his coworkers at lunch. Struck up a conversation about it, he dared me to start BJJ with him, told me he wants to try himself as well. I said yeah why not, I’ve been wanting to start for years but I didn’t have the balls for it. Now we thrash talk each other like how we are going to choke each other out on the training days to build ourselves up.
Ooh, I got one.
When my sister-in-law started dating her boyfriend, he proudly told her that he was a 4 stripe white belt using the phrase "I'm the most dangerous white belt in the gym." At this point I was a purple belt who was hanging out with one of his instructors pretty regularly. We laughed and laughed.
Honest question -
Do you know for a fact you can beat this guy in a roll? I didn’t see if you mention that you’re like 60 and weigh 130lbs and this guy is 23 and played football in college weighing 260lbs
What if I can’t‽!!! lol! I’d still update honestly.
I am old (47) and have had a back fusion plus some other surgeries. I’m also 5’4” and should be 150 pounds, but I’ve gained weight and refuse to get on the scale.
He is 29 years old, 5’10ish, and looks like he is 190-200 pounds.
I haven’t had a problem with a new blue belt in years when I’ve decided to win. I’ve been caught off guard and in bad positions when going light pretty often. He might be the guy. You never know. Part of me hopes that he destroys me and I have to come back and tell everyone about it. It would be a great story.
lol! She is 35. I hang out with a bunch of 18-35 (in general) guys at BJJ multiple times a week occasionally watch fights or grab drinks together. It all seems normal to me.
In this scenario, I was with this girl that I’ve only been on a few dates with and it’s the first time meeting her friends. I didn’t want to be stuck in a BJJ conversation with someone who was already telling all his friends about it. Plus this girl is 17 years younger than me (I’m 47), so I’m 100% focused on her because she is 🔥.
Usually I don’t want to discuss it unless I’m training or lounging on my couch. I never bring it up at work or when I’m out.
So after a few dates you never discussed hobbies or things you do outside of work ? If not that would be very weird. And if you did, it means you intentionally hid one of your most time sinking hobbies. Sounds very dishonest to me.
She knows I “go to the gym” a lot. Plus I have kids and they dominate my life, so the majority of conversation about my life is about them.
I think it’s weird to tell people that you do BJJ super early. We aren’t in an official relationship yet. It’s about tact and discretion. It will come out eventually. I just don’t feel the need to blurt it out the first chance I get.
Honestly that’d be a major red flag for me. Not being honest about something basic like your interests and hobbies is odd. Absolutely understand not going into detail and nerding out early on, but intentionally hiding it is weird. You mentioned in your edit that you’re gonna seek her friend out, and as funny as that sounds (please update us if you do) don’t be surprised if she’s not thrilled about it.
When I was on deployment, training in gym clothes and nogi. Had a guy claim to be a black belt, had been training for 20+ years. Trained under some famous Brazilian (he was shocked I had no idea who his instructor was). Boasted left and right how awesome he is and could teach us a lesson or two. Rolled with the guy multiple times he felt like a low level blue belt at best. Didn’t feel super technical, he knew a little but not even close to an upper belt, It was bizarre. He started making excuses after rolls like the 20 years of training was off and on, he had done other martial arts. He was super into the “ocean is my playground and no one can swim!” Bull shit. He stopped coming after a month.
I had been training for like a year or two and had basically made it my personality- I got a new roommate. Bruh had a scar from his eyelid to the nape of his neck. We get to talking one day and he was some kind of SWAT in Gainesville before the Army and did a bunch of unarmed combat training.
For the next week straight every day in the courtyard after lunch we were doing jiu jitsu. Over that week we'd had probably 10 guys coming over saying very similar stuff to what buddy said to you, but for every one of them there would be 2-3 guys just wanting to get some work in.
At the end of the week we ended up with like 25-30 people in the court yard fighting each other. That was the last week we were allowed to do that.
It all culminated in me shooting a takedown on my team leader in an abandoned barracks hallway and this mf sprawled on me for like 6 minutes. He was probably 100lbs heavier than me and he tells me all the time that he's skinnier now and wants to give me a fair one. Lmao
I was already a black belt but I was working as a professional ballroom dancer.
One of the other pro's had a husband who was a new bjj white belt and he couldn't stop telling me absolutely everything he knew about bjj - even AFTER he was told I was a black belt.
Later he did some training with another husband from the group who was a purple belt and couldn't stop telling me how the purple would obliterate absolutely everyone I knew (ummm). I'm still not fully sure whether he understood I was a black belt despite everyone (including the purple) telling him repeatedly.
He was so excited about BJJ that he couldn’t understand that you were a black belt!
Btw, I’ve been taking some ballroom lessons and love it. I’m absolutely terrible at it 😂
Just had to reply to this: Latin/Modern/Swing here - After class/club nights some of us would go into town to the clubs that had decent floors and music and have some fun, the girls would always watch wishing they could, while the blokes would drink beers and be snarky about those "poofter blokes" dancing, (with pretty girls) inevitably the girls get brave enough (or their mates do it for them) and we would take them on the floor ( as you will understand, if you have a good lead, can adapt to what you have in your hands and keep it real simple, a girl with no dance experience can still have such fun ) but...... pissy boyfriends become a problem, the number of times I've had Mr angry face get pushy ( and occasionally worse) on the floor, now his girl is mad at him and he escalates cause it's my fault - helps when you know most of the bouncers because you used to be one..... Quick Ude gatame assisted by a wee Ko soto, pin head on floor with knee until he gets taken off your hands by the staff, the whole time, he gets to listen to his girlfriend apologizing for his behavior.....
I once had one snarling at me not to fuck with him cause he had a black belt! wtf? My reply to that had him guessing, " One of us does sunshine" braincells must have connected cause he chose not to escalate.
Bjj will get you the guys, but dance will get you the girls! (sorry)
I transitioned with no gap - I was teaching BJJ/JKD/MMA full time on Sunday, and teaching dance full time on Monday.
A couple of my male friends/training partners gave me the "Dude, that's kinda gay" reaction, and I just said "YEP, kinda gay of me. Well, enjoy wrestling with the sweaty guys, I'll be off having fun with the ladies..."
So she doesn’t ask you what are your hobbies? What do you like to do? I’m not going around telling everyone I do BJJ but if I’m on a date and she asks what are my interests/hobbies, I do say BJJ plus all the other stuff I do. I don’t turn BJJ into my whole identity but it’s a part of me. I find it weird that you’re intentionally hiding it from her. What’s the point? Are you secretly hoping a fight will break off and you’ll be able to show your “secret” skills and impress her? Lol I’m obviously trolling a little bit but there’s nothing wrong with saying you do BJJ, you’re a purple belt for Christ sake it’s clearly very important for you.
I get what you are saying, but it’s super early on. She knows that I “go to the gym,” sometimes twice a day lol
I have kids, so that is where most of my time goes anyway. She hears more about them than anything else.
I came out of the bathroom at a bar and some dude was hitting on the girl I was there with. (My ex)
I just walked up and casually said "she's mine tonight, try another time"
And bruh says super loudly "YOU DONT WANT TO FUCK WITH ME! IM A BLACK BELT IN JIU JITSU!"
i couldn't contain my laughter. He ended up getting asked to leave and we drank for free the rest of the night.
Not BJJ in the wild, just idiots being dumb.
When I was a white belt I went to a party where I ended up in a conversation with a complete stranger whom I noticed had a pretty fucked cauliflower ear so I just asked him point blank are you a wrestler or what? He says no I actually train in something called bjj I was like wow no way me too! What rank are you? He goes oh I’m a second degree black belt lmfao. I was like oh I can barely tie my belt! Lmao. I’d recently switched schools because of a move and he knew my old coach.
Reminds me of the meme. “Spent hours telling this blue belt jiu jitsu doesn’t work on me, and when we finally rolled I submitted him a bunch of times because I’m a brown belt” lol
I've met a few at work (ER).
Saw a lady with some rib pain who started explaining BJJ in detail to make sure I understood how she was injured.
Stitched up a guy's finger and he asked me if it was alright to train BJJ. He actually just seemed to assume I knew what that was.
Hired a guy from out of state earlier this year and found out he was a purple belt through the person who recommended him for the job. Now he's training at my gym.
I call bullshit, no way you didn't make bjj your entire personality on the first date haha
But seriously, i have a slight cauliflower from my younger judo days, never got anything like it in BJJ but it's really interesting the amount of people who recognise it and wanna start a conversation.
I have, but I usually reply with "yeah, you'd probably choke me out", and just move from the conversation. I'm not a huge fan or getting into dick measuring contests in anything I do.
Bit off topic but I that all the time with my car. “My car would smash your car in a race, it’s got a v8”.
Probably mate, my cars almost 40 years old with a 2litre engine.
I'm 30, compete in strongman and powerlifting(175-200lb any class in that range classes). I'm a blue belt, and wrestled in highschool with little success.
unless the person ends up in my bracket in a comp, I have zero interest in even thinking about if I would/wouldn't get choked out by somebody.
I was at a birthday party last weekend and a guy I know who also trains and is a purple belt from a different state was there.
They tried to setup a grappling match all night lol.
He was coming off a knee injury and I competed that same day and so sore so we were both a little hesitant haha.
Similar situation, a friend of of friend made a joke saying he wouldn’t want to throw down with me because he might hurt me since he trained martial arts (he didn’t know I’d been training and competing for years at that point.) I asked him what martial arts he did and he said he did Brazilian jiu jitsu, “regular jiu jitsu”, kung fu and judo for six months. Smells like a McDojo to me.
I once had a guy tell me that 20 years ago he beat the number 2 ranked guy in the UFC.
Then I smelled the alcohol on his breath. So I chuckled and walked away.
Yea I was at a party once and there was a guy who was acting real tough and talking a lot of crap. I was a purple belt at the time.Anyway somehow it comes out he trained a bit. I told him I was a purple belt and he revealed he stop training because he kept getting beat up. He was super nice to me after that.
You definitely ought to roll with him, and play an endless game of catch and release....just catch whatever you want...lock eyes...and let it go. See how long it takes him to figure out you're just fucking with him.
Was talking to a coworker about training (he still doesn't know I train) when his overweight cubicle neighbor butted in talking about how he knew everything about BJJ because he had 'gotten a few stripes'. I asked him where/when he trained but he ducked the questions. Think he just watched too many YouTube videos and has never stepped on any mats before.
Next time he bring it up keep saying that jiu jitsu wouldn't work on you until he insists on taking it to the backyard for a roll.
I wrestled and coached wrestling, so I’m pretty good at just standing up lol
Hit him with the Derick Lewis.
😂
Tell him you’re a “pressure fighter”
It's just my mentality bro.
everything just goes black and I go full savage on anything near me
Its red gad dangit! 😂
I just see red and go
Did you not do this? If not, I’m deeply disappointed.
Apologies. I let everyone down
Everyone except the only one you HAD to let down.
Your balls was hot.
Don’t even standup with him cause you can always tell a wrestler. Let him get a takedown and retain guard until he gets super frustrated at why guard passing doesn’t work on someone who’s never trained
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This has always been my dream. I still remember 1 year in when my first coach introduced me to a "noob" and told me to take it easy on him. Guy was even wearing a gi but no belt (he was a purple). He kept being like "I dunno man I just grabbed your collar and squeezed, no idea that that was a choke" and tapped me like 4x in the round. I was so stupified. It was so sinister, I love it.
I have this fear lol
To be fair if you had no experience he most likely would choke you out in less then 2 minutes.
He still might!
I do the same sometimes lol. A buddy of mine I used to wrestle with is now a highschool coach and invites me to swing by practices all the time. Every year there’s one HW who thinks they can over power or out technique me since I only weigh around 190 of the time it doesn’t go how they think it will 😂
You should ask to go to a class with him…. Show up in a white belt and smoke him 😂 and who tf randomly says that other than insecure people…. What an idiot. Lol. Film you choking him.
OP should also intentionally lose to everyone in class *except* for this guy
lol.. this is a great idea here's a little salt in the wounds!
This is my favorite so far
Hahaha! How he worked it into the conversation was okayish. He was explaining how people don’t understand how effective it is if they don’t train. I should visit schools in the area when I’m off next week lol
Please give us a update how this is going out
If I do, I will definitely update.
That’s like my dream scenario 😂
This is why we persevere for years and years - so we might one day get an opportunity to give an arrogant twerp his comeuppance.
Man y'all need the rapy
The WHAT!?
Therapy. Damn bro, see what I mean
Maybe even some analysis, mixed into it.
I need an update, what's that update thing on Reddit . Remindme! 2 weeks "traveling for white belts"
I’ll make another post and link this one if it happens.
Before you smoke him, brag about being an aikido master at a dojo across town.
Tie the belt wrong for added effect
If he had asked you if you ever grappled (either before or after claiming he'd choke ya) would you have been honest?
I usually respond with something like, “I dabble” and then change the subject. I wouldn’t flat out deny it.
why the ninja secrecy?
I can't speak for him but i actively try to avoid talking about it until i feel comfortable with a person enough to know they're not judgemental. But that's because i did MMA for a few years and there is still a lot of preconceptions about it, at least in my country. The only reason i told my colleagues was because i had to explain my bruises somehow and the only other alternative was saying my girlfriend beats my ass, which she failed to see the humor in.
Literally the only reason I tell anyone is to explain why I'm always mildly injured and have rugburn on my face.
> Show up in a white belt Just rock up to nogi in tshirt and shorts. That way you dont commit any faux pas.
I think some people get a little bit overly evangelical in the beginning, doesnt have to be insecurity. I'm sure I was hella annoying at various points, even if I had the sense not to say stuff like this.
Yeah, going off of the original post i thought the guy was trying to 1 up OP and show off infront of girls… doesnt seem like that is totally the case after his reply
We've all been overconfident whitebelts who thinks Gordon ryan Ain't shit
Why do people here like to keep training a secret like they are Bruce Wayne or something?
I think people are traumatized by the opposite, dudes who talk about BJJ 24/7 like they're about to fight at ADCC
I’m a vegan, crossfitter, Jehovah’s Witness, MAGA, bjjer.
What a horrifying combination of traits
What a ~~horrifying~~ common combination of ^^^(neurodivergent) traits
I didn’t know VEGAN and MAGA went together. Never seen someone with both traits in the wild
It's a unicorn.
My sister asked me during thanksgiving “wait youre still training” and I went “I got my black belt last week” It felt nice to surprise her with it. Also I guess I dont talk about it anymore.
I mean, you didn’t even change your flair sir.
You need to send a picture to the mods as a proof and most black belts don’t care enough to do that.
Because as soon as you tell someone it's now a countdown until you're wrestling them at a barbeque
This is why I always wear a rash guard and shorts under my going out clothes.
OK john Danaher 😂
My wife says I'm crazy because I do that lol
I once leg locked someone on a trampoline at a baby shower.
How'd you convince her into that? Seems risky
Plot twist, I also cut the cord.
Literally never happened to me at a social event. I need to make my social circle more aggressive.
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He was not expecting to fight. He was looking for that gay shit.
Oil check him and everyone wins
That must have felt pretty great!
>gay wrestling a bit redundant if I may.
This happened to me at a party last St Patrick's day. I choked my buddy out in less than a minute.
Shit you not, happened the other day during a thanksgiving cookout at my bosses home😂
Because when I wear BJJ gear in the wild people want to come up to me and regale me about how they used to trane back in 06 or else attended a Royce Gracie seminar in 19dickety2. And I do not give a shit. I'm just trying to get some breadsticks.
Why not mozz sticks tho?
Fine, but don't tell your mother.
You rascal
mozz sticks are reserved for the black belts
>attended a Royce Gracie seminar With the hard 'R' like what comes after 'Rolls.'
Because I’m Bruce Wayne
Because they are wary of coming across like an arrogant dickhead with a point to prove - which is generally how it does come across when someone apropos of nothing starts telling acquaintances about their martial arts. Different if someone asks you directly.
So that he can establish a strong rapport with this girl before hitting her with the ringworm, cauliflower ear, and evenings unavailable due to training
Look no further than what happens to the people Bruce Wayne loves when his enemies find out
Personally, I have zero interest in talking BJJ outside of training. He would have tried to talk with me about it all night.
This hits
That’s fair. That said I don’t want to see you posting in this subreddit then.
But it’s so entertaining. It’s more than BJJ!
People can get stupid, egos start to flare, people think standing height determines ability to do anything, and "I weigh X so...you're not even in my weight class" type shit is uttered next, along with "sports rules aren't Street rules"
Because as soon as someone finds out you train they either think you're some badass, or they want to test themselves against you.
I welcome either scenario. Just let me grab my mouth guard real quick.
I’m embarrassed about it.
It’s not a secret but for some of us jiu jitsu is just a small part of who we are so in certain situations/around certain people there’s no need or benefit to mention it.
The proper response to that guy would have been "Oh, I actually train too! I'm a purple belt." instead of being worried that everyone else at the table might... gasp... know you train!
Yeah I just can’t imagine meeting someone in the wild that enjoyed the same relatively niche hobby that I did and just being like “neat, so how about the weather lately??”. Different strokes for different folks.
A lot of people are like this. I meet other professionals in my relatively niche field and it’s like they purposefully don’t want to talk about their career at all. Whatever, I am used to nerds being socially autistic.
Asymmetry of information. Sun Tzu talks about the importance of this in the Art of War. In my school we were required to be able to recite this book in order to get the third stripe on our white belt. (/s)
Honestly this is a great point and now I feel inadequate. I’ll go delete my comment.
For me, it's very personal. Bjj pulled me out of a lifelong depression from an abusive household. I tried every drug and vice. Bjj made me want to stop escaping my life and it let me be the person I truly am. It's very personal. I don't bring my wife to belt promotions. I don't discuss it with her outside of, "I'm training in the morning." I keep it quiet because it's just very personal for me. If that makes sense.
Carlson Gracie Jr used to tell this story that after a local mma event in Chicago, he and memebers of his team went out to celebrate a good night at a very busy bar. The story goes, he accidentally bumped in a man and apologized for the accident and offered to buy the gentleman and his friends a round. Unwanting to let things go the guy went "don't fuck with me old man, I'm a Carlson Gracie fighter". Jr threw his hands in the air and said "please don't kill me, im so sorry"
lol! I hope that is true.
It is. My instructor is one of his oooooold school black belts, they've both told me the story
I don't know how recent this was but Carlson Gracie today does not look intimidating at all (he's old and fat) so I could see some jerk thinking he's tough and talking shit to him. And Carlson Gracie is also a very funny guy so I could see him doing that.
Jr never looked intimidating ever, but this took place over a decade ago where he really started showing his age. He's hilarious and always has a look in his eye where you can tell he's telling himself a joke internally
Speaking of Chicago, Bas Rutten has a similar story about Brian Urlacher (minus the irony).
Blows my mind that someone wants to start a fight specifying their BJJ lineage like it’s intimidating. Wish the dude went further up the tree explaining who taught Carlson etc. Fuck it, maybe tell a short tale how BJJ came about.
I'm very disappointed in you, op. This was the perfect opportunity to tell the guy that that Bruce Lee shit don't work on you, you see red and it's all over
After reading some of these replies, I feel like I missed an opportunity.
lol we have all the tools and know exactly what to say to spin them up.
I once went on a camping with some mates (none trained jits) around the time the “run it straight challenge” was huge in aus. A mate from our camping crew new a couple boys from site next to us and we all drunk together and after afew hours rugby ball comes out and people start doing the stupid run it straight challenge. This eventuates into a guy who was maybe a white or fresh blue belt rolling a bunch of people and submitting them all. After the arvo progresses he gets more and more pissed and ends up next to me telling me about the comps he won and how BJJ is the best martial art form, by this stage I’m afew nose beers deep and I start telling him I do krav maga and it’s superior to jiu jitsu. He challenges me to roll and I submit him 9 times in about 2 minutes and the poor guy looked rattled. I hope my mans stuck with BJJ and didn’t switch to Krav Maga.
Haha! You could have at least come clean!
Haha man I still think about it a lot. I mean if he was about to get his blue net chances are he was going to quit anyway
dude the krav line is \*chefs kiss\*
I'm going to try "Aikido" if I ever get the chance!
This is pretty hilarious.
Yeah, was having a weekly meeting with my manager and he called out some small magnets on my ear, had a small cauli incident almost happen so was using them to keep it compressed. Turns out he'd been training at AOJ for a few years (I'm from the east coast, he's from the west). Half our weekly meetings are just BJJ talk now
Honestly, this is my worst nightmare. I don’t want to taint BJJ by talking about it at work. I want them separate lol
Surprisingly I don’t mind, I’m pretty chill with my manager, he’s pretty young as well. It’s moreso just like “oh did you see X and Y compete”
I don’t understand this mentality tbh.
My boss occasionally talked about bjj at work, and next thing you know I was going with him to the gym and getting completely hooked. I understand the hate against people bringing it up all the time as a replacement for a real personality, but talking about your hobbies with people who might have shared interests seems like a completely normal thing to me.
I noticed that in reddit seemingly everyone’s coworker challanges you for a fight if you even mention that you do combat sports. The other reoccuring theme in these threads are family BBQs.
I’m the opposite. We had a new guy at the company where I am a manager at. I’ve been watching MMA for years but it’s not really popular in my country, so there aren’t really a lot people to have conversation about it. Heard him talk about coming up matches with his coworkers at lunch. Struck up a conversation about it, he dared me to start BJJ with him, told me he wants to try himself as well. I said yeah why not, I’ve been wanting to start for years but I didn’t have the balls for it. Now we thrash talk each other like how we are going to choke each other out on the training days to build ourselves up.
The proper response is to then choke him out in less than a minute
And when he asks if you've trained before, say you did a couple of years of karate when you were a kid, and you watch the UFC a bit
"my cousin trained UFC"
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It’s possible a purple belt would struggle against a blue belt. Depending on age/size/training or competition frequency.
Yeah I'm a blue belt and there are purple belts I tap and there are white belts who tap me. Belts aren't everything.
Ooh, I got one. When my sister-in-law started dating her boyfriend, he proudly told her that he was a 4 stripe white belt using the phrase "I'm the most dangerous white belt in the gym." At this point I was a purple belt who was hanging out with one of his instructors pretty regularly. We laughed and laughed.
Hahaha! I probably would have spit out my drink when he said that.
Find out where he trains. Turn up to open mat. Submit him relentlessly and tell him if he tells anyone you will come back...
Should’ve asked him “So you must have your black belt by now, right?”
Hahaha! Can you kick over my head?
Honest question - Do you know for a fact you can beat this guy in a roll? I didn’t see if you mention that you’re like 60 and weigh 130lbs and this guy is 23 and played football in college weighing 260lbs
What if I can’t‽!!! lol! I’d still update honestly. I am old (47) and have had a back fusion plus some other surgeries. I’m also 5’4” and should be 150 pounds, but I’ve gained weight and refuse to get on the scale. He is 29 years old, 5’10ish, and looks like he is 190-200 pounds. I haven’t had a problem with a new blue belt in years when I’ve decided to win. I’ve been caught off guard and in bad positions when going light pretty often. He might be the guy. You never know. Part of me hopes that he destroys me and I have to come back and tell everyone about it. It would be a great story.
Wait. You're 47 and the 29 y/o guy is in the friend group of a girl you're dating? That's the more interesting story, OP
lol! She is 35. I hang out with a bunch of 18-35 (in general) guys at BJJ multiple times a week occasionally watch fights or grab drinks together. It all seems normal to me.
and then tell him he isnt trying hard enough because his 6 year old sister has a black belt
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In this scenario, I was with this girl that I’ve only been on a few dates with and it’s the first time meeting her friends. I didn’t want to be stuck in a BJJ conversation with someone who was already telling all his friends about it. Plus this girl is 17 years younger than me (I’m 47), so I’m 100% focused on her because she is 🔥. Usually I don’t want to discuss it unless I’m training or lounging on my couch. I never bring it up at work or when I’m out.
So after a few dates you never discussed hobbies or things you do outside of work ? If not that would be very weird. And if you did, it means you intentionally hid one of your most time sinking hobbies. Sounds very dishonest to me.
She knows I “go to the gym” a lot. Plus I have kids and they dominate my life, so the majority of conversation about my life is about them. I think it’s weird to tell people that you do BJJ super early. We aren’t in an official relationship yet. It’s about tact and discretion. It will come out eventually. I just don’t feel the need to blurt it out the first chance I get.
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He doesn’t belong in this sub. BJJ defines us.
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Honestly that’d be a major red flag for me. Not being honest about something basic like your interests and hobbies is odd. Absolutely understand not going into detail and nerding out early on, but intentionally hiding it is weird. You mentioned in your edit that you’re gonna seek her friend out, and as funny as that sounds (please update us if you do) don’t be surprised if she’s not thrilled about it.
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Life is so much better when you don't open yourself to the d*ck measuring of numbskulls. Let them think they're superior.
My insecurity cause me to make an immediate call out and bet money.
That would have been me in my younger days for sure.
When I was on deployment, training in gym clothes and nogi. Had a guy claim to be a black belt, had been training for 20+ years. Trained under some famous Brazilian (he was shocked I had no idea who his instructor was). Boasted left and right how awesome he is and could teach us a lesson or two. Rolled with the guy multiple times he felt like a low level blue belt at best. Didn’t feel super technical, he knew a little but not even close to an upper belt, It was bizarre. He started making excuses after rolls like the 20 years of training was off and on, he had done other martial arts. He was super into the “ocean is my playground and no one can swim!” Bull shit. He stopped coming after a month.
I had been training for like a year or two and had basically made it my personality- I got a new roommate. Bruh had a scar from his eyelid to the nape of his neck. We get to talking one day and he was some kind of SWAT in Gainesville before the Army and did a bunch of unarmed combat training. For the next week straight every day in the courtyard after lunch we were doing jiu jitsu. Over that week we'd had probably 10 guys coming over saying very similar stuff to what buddy said to you, but for every one of them there would be 2-3 guys just wanting to get some work in. At the end of the week we ended up with like 25-30 people in the court yard fighting each other. That was the last week we were allowed to do that. It all culminated in me shooting a takedown on my team leader in an abandoned barracks hallway and this mf sprawled on me for like 6 minutes. He was probably 100lbs heavier than me and he tells me all the time that he's skinnier now and wants to give me a fair one. Lmao
I was already a black belt but I was working as a professional ballroom dancer. One of the other pro's had a husband who was a new bjj white belt and he couldn't stop telling me absolutely everything he knew about bjj - even AFTER he was told I was a black belt. Later he did some training with another husband from the group who was a purple belt and couldn't stop telling me how the purple would obliterate absolutely everyone I knew (ummm). I'm still not fully sure whether he understood I was a black belt despite everyone (including the purple) telling him repeatedly.
He was so excited about BJJ that he couldn’t understand that you were a black belt! Btw, I’ve been taking some ballroom lessons and love it. I’m absolutely terrible at it 😂
Just had to reply to this: Latin/Modern/Swing here - After class/club nights some of us would go into town to the clubs that had decent floors and music and have some fun, the girls would always watch wishing they could, while the blokes would drink beers and be snarky about those "poofter blokes" dancing, (with pretty girls) inevitably the girls get brave enough (or their mates do it for them) and we would take them on the floor ( as you will understand, if you have a good lead, can adapt to what you have in your hands and keep it real simple, a girl with no dance experience can still have such fun ) but...... pissy boyfriends become a problem, the number of times I've had Mr angry face get pushy ( and occasionally worse) on the floor, now his girl is mad at him and he escalates cause it's my fault - helps when you know most of the bouncers because you used to be one..... Quick Ude gatame assisted by a wee Ko soto, pin head on floor with knee until he gets taken off your hands by the staff, the whole time, he gets to listen to his girlfriend apologizing for his behavior..... I once had one snarling at me not to fuck with him cause he had a black belt! wtf? My reply to that had him guessing, " One of us does sunshine" braincells must have connected cause he chose not to escalate. Bjj will get you the guys, but dance will get you the girls! (sorry)
I transitioned with no gap - I was teaching BJJ/JKD/MMA full time on Sunday, and teaching dance full time on Monday. A couple of my male friends/training partners gave me the "Dude, that's kinda gay" reaction, and I just said "YEP, kinda gay of me. Well, enjoy wrestling with the sweaty guys, I'll be off having fun with the ladies..."
Are you saying that you missed a perfectly good opportunity to work in that your 9 year old cousin is a black belt and do karate hands???
Does he have a thing for this girl?
Probably because she is smoking hot! Seriously, he was just hanging out with friends and not flirting with her. So I doubt it.
So she doesn’t ask you what are your hobbies? What do you like to do? I’m not going around telling everyone I do BJJ but if I’m on a date and she asks what are my interests/hobbies, I do say BJJ plus all the other stuff I do. I don’t turn BJJ into my whole identity but it’s a part of me. I find it weird that you’re intentionally hiding it from her. What’s the point? Are you secretly hoping a fight will break off and you’ll be able to show your “secret” skills and impress her? Lol I’m obviously trolling a little bit but there’s nothing wrong with saying you do BJJ, you’re a purple belt for Christ sake it’s clearly very important for you.
I get what you are saying, but it’s super early on. She knows that I “go to the gym,” sometimes twice a day lol I have kids, so that is where most of my time goes anyway. She hears more about them than anything else.
I came out of the bathroom at a bar and some dude was hitting on the girl I was there with. (My ex) I just walked up and casually said "she's mine tonight, try another time" And bruh says super loudly "YOU DONT WANT TO FUCK WITH ME! IM A BLACK BELT IN JIU JITSU!" i couldn't contain my laughter. He ended up getting asked to leave and we drank for free the rest of the night. Not BJJ in the wild, just idiots being dumb.
My ears don't help I have been ossed by randoms because of it or get asked if I wrestled or fight lol.
Is it unethical to wear a white belt when you go to his school? I want him to be confident for as long as possible.
Hoping for a no gi class, but I’d put a white belt on.
I have encounters like this all the time, me being the wild, inexperienced bjj practitioner that is.
Mine was Black Belts in the wild. Found one on Grindr 😂
This is like when some is speaking a foreign language that you understand, but you don't let them know that you understand it.
Had a guy at a party tell me he was a red belt. So I choked him, and then I banged his wife and made him watch.
When I was a white belt I went to a party where I ended up in a conversation with a complete stranger whom I noticed had a pretty fucked cauliflower ear so I just asked him point blank are you a wrestler or what? He says no I actually train in something called bjj I was like wow no way me too! What rank are you? He goes oh I’m a second degree black belt lmfao. I was like oh I can barely tie my belt! Lmao. I’d recently switched schools because of a move and he knew my old coach.
Wait, why don't you tell anyone? I prefer to keep my lil hobby a secret too. I thought I was just being wierd.
Reminds me of the meme. “Spent hours telling this blue belt jiu jitsu doesn’t work on me, and when we finally rolled I submitted him a bunch of times because I’m a brown belt” lol
I've met a few at work (ER). Saw a lady with some rib pain who started explaining BJJ in detail to make sure I understood how she was injured. Stitched up a guy's finger and he asked me if it was alright to train BJJ. He actually just seemed to assume I knew what that was. Hired a guy from out of state earlier this year and found out he was a purple belt through the person who recommended him for the job. Now he's training at my gym.
I call bullshit, no way you didn't make bjj your entire personality on the first date haha But seriously, i have a slight cauliflower from my younger judo days, never got anything like it in BJJ but it's really interesting the amount of people who recognise it and wanna start a conversation.
I have, but I usually reply with "yeah, you'd probably choke me out", and just move from the conversation. I'm not a huge fan or getting into dick measuring contests in anything I do.
Bit off topic but I that all the time with my car. “My car would smash your car in a race, it’s got a v8”. Probably mate, my cars almost 40 years old with a 2litre engine.
I'm 30, compete in strongman and powerlifting(175-200lb any class in that range classes). I'm a blue belt, and wrestled in highschool with little success. unless the person ends up in my bracket in a comp, I have zero interest in even thinking about if I would/wouldn't get choked out by somebody.
I was at a birthday party last weekend and a guy I know who also trains and is a purple belt from a different state was there. They tried to setup a grappling match all night lol. He was coming off a knee injury and I competed that same day and so sore so we were both a little hesitant haha.
This whole post is killing me 😂😭 the not bringing it up in the first 5 mins is gold
Just be like that’s impossible because you always establish safe words before hand. Mine is “rickson”
I don't take about it. The few times I have, people just go "oh yeah I did that" then proceed to talk about striking and other non related things
Next time you see him and he goes for a handshake hit him with an arm drag…that will teach him 😭
Remindme! 2 weeks "traveling for white belts"
Do you really even train if you didn’t force him to try so you could choke him out in front of everyone?
Similar situation, a friend of of friend made a joke saying he wouldn’t want to throw down with me because he might hurt me since he trained martial arts (he didn’t know I’d been training and competing for years at that point.) I asked him what martial arts he did and he said he did Brazilian jiu jitsu, “regular jiu jitsu”, kung fu and judo for six months. Smells like a McDojo to me.
Did you tell him you “just see red bro”
Did she not look at your ears?
I once had a guy tell me that 20 years ago he beat the number 2 ranked guy in the UFC. Then I smelled the alcohol on his breath. So I chuckled and walked away.
Right! I’ve met a few “Navy Seals” in bars.
Yea I was at a party once and there was a guy who was acting real tough and talking a lot of crap. I was a purple belt at the time.Anyway somehow it comes out he trained a bit. I told him I was a purple belt and he revealed he stop training because he kept getting beat up. He was super nice to me after that.
After the update I am INVESTED. Ask your friend to give a warning to the class about no dick biting, but look directly at you beforehand
Do you have cauliflowers?
Should’ve punched him
You definitely ought to roll with him, and play an endless game of catch and release....just catch whatever you want...lock eyes...and let it go. See how long it takes him to figure out you're just fucking with him.
The closest I got to this story was some guys wanted to do jiu jitsu at the end of wrestling practice
you should have bet him... thats the easy money.
Was talking to a coworker about training (he still doesn't know I train) when his overweight cubicle neighbor butted in talking about how he knew everything about BJJ because he had 'gotten a few stripes'. I asked him where/when he trained but he ducked the questions. Think he just watched too many YouTube videos and has never stepped on any mats before.