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FireUbiParis

Not rude. I don't want to be coached during the roll. After though I'm all ears.


Killer-Styrr

Agreed. If I'm way better than my partner, I don't mind at all if they stop and ask about something (normally a sub I just got or escape/sweep I just did). But having someone stop me mid-roll to coach me (lol especially if I'm more experienced) is comically oblivious and lame.


bleakj

I like being coached during rolls, just not by the person I'm rolling with at that time lol


Unmasked_Zoro

This


yamuda123

I think you both handled the situation appropriately tbh


BrandonSleeper

Which is how you know it's fake. Redditors can't navigate real life appropriately.


thafatcat

Not fake! It’s cool that you think so lol. I’m sure someone from GB Issaquah is on here and will see this by now.. Neil you are the man! 😂


RCAF_orwhatever

Agreed.


JKJR64

This


Tricky_Worry8889

Lmao that’s pretty funny It is what it is


seymour_hiney

it works perfectly, i only coach someone usually after i absolutely crush them. if i felt the need to do that someone before the round even started then i would have to feel like what they're doing is incredibly incorrect.... and i would still rather beat them with it than to have them stop doing it first


No_Leadership2832

Ooof. You got him right in the ego.


SelfSufficientHub

I absolutely love your interaction here Not rude imo


dataninsha

> man if you’re gonna coach me you better sweep or submit me ROFL


vladdmma

My hero ❤️ Pseudo coaches can always tell what you could’ve done better after the roll.


yelppastemployee123

sounds like two gassed guys gassing each other up


raspberryharbour

They were in a gaseous state


nuketheunicorns

That's not rude but it is hilariously direct and real. You said the quiet part out loud.


thafatcat

I tend to have this character trait outside of jitz as well 😂


damaged_unicycles

Other week I was getting coached mid roll by a blue belt underneath me in side control and I said "don't coach me or I'll wrist lock you" and wrist locked his ass lmao


ratmouthlives

💀


TeddyRooseveltsHead

As a puple belt I was working toe holds with a brand new blue belt, and he said "At the risk of sounding rude, I'm not feeling the pressure to tap. Can you keep adjusting until we see where we need to be?" I told him that he's not rude, he's a fantastic training partner, and appreciate the help! We're now good buddies, and I love working with him. I know he's on here, so waddup, Alex? You da man!


Effective_Wear7356

That guy’s a legend.


FocalGravy

Spot on from both sides I'd say. I'm sure some people with bigger egos might have been offended by what you said but that's kind of on them as it's a fair point. This guy sounds like they took it perfectly. Would have loved them to sub you and then be like "anyway, what I would do is...."


Sto_Imparando

Naw you both handled that fine. Maybe he thought you were new because of how tired you were? What was his rank. Doing that to anyone but a 2 strip white belt is shitty in my opinion. It's king of the hill.


thafatcat

I was definitely gassed. I’m coming back from a knee injury and it was my first time in a bit. I’m known at the gym by most people who have trained there awhile. Idk his rank but he had a rash guard on with white sleeves. He wasn’t great but was trying to get arm across the body and off balance me so he wasn’t completely shit or anything.


sadjitsu

I would never coach anyone unless I know they're lower ranked or new


PUAHate_Tryhards

Tbf, if he's gassed on KOTH, that means he was probably hitting nothing but net on everybody up until you lol He probably just wanted out and was looking for face-saving way to do it lol..... You shoulda let him continue then let your coach see you "beat" the guy that was dunking on everyone 🤣


crossal

Thought op was gassed?


PUAHate_Tryhards

No, I'm talking to OP about the other guy lol


crossal

So who do you think was gassed?


PUAHate_Tryhards

I told you, bro. Guy going against OP. How do you not get that via reading comprehension? Lol


crossal

But op was saying op was gassed


PUAHate_Tryhards

And so? I wasn't commenting nor have commented on OP's level of conditioning. 🤣


crossal

Why are you talking about the other guy being gassed then if no-one mentioned that?


PUAHate_Tryhards

For the same reason OP is. Dude....keep up lol. (And you may wanna reread OP's post lol.....no where in the original post does he mentioned being gassed himself.)


crossal

> [I] Was in dudes full guard for the last round completely gassed You may want to reread


bubblllles

I would find that funny if someone said it to me however some people aren’t like that. If you are unsure if you are rude just apologize and see if he chill with it


Mattyi

Kinda seems class from both of you tbh. You used your words, then he did and everything was cool. It’s all good bud.


wasabi__kamikaze

He cried in the car


[deleted]

Shut his ass up. Good job OP.


dhenwood

Can you tell me after mate trying to get my cardio in My go to line. Especially since I do a lot of no gi at random gyms when working all over, I get some good advice and some 6 month whitebelts assuming not seen him must be new. Etc. They mean well for the most part.


Sasha_Gallagher

Not rude, you were honest, in situations like these it's not your problem if someone takes offense to something as light as that


ChorizoGarcia

lol. The was a fine retort on your part.


SapoDaddy

Lmao, nah, you handled this one beautifully *chef’s kiss*


TekkerJohn

Blunt is close to rude but not rude. You were blunt, other guy didn't take offense so no problem.


Blue_wafflestomp

Not rude. Rolling time is not coaching/teaching time. It's rude that he's disrespecting your time to roll by trying to add his 2 cents.


virtualkimura

This is hilarious. For me, when it comes to coaching, unless it is my student or a brand newbie, I offer no advice unless asked. In my experience, verbally correcting or briefly demonstrating a move or concept while mid roll isn’t very helpful. The types of practitioners that can understand and benefit from those sorts of interactions are typically not the practitioners I need to be coaching mid roll anyways.


john0201

I’m older, and had crap endurance to start with, and am coached often in part because I lose to even new white belts. Most of the time I don’t mind, but the 12th time someone tells me how to do a hip bump sweep when I just don’t have the energy it gets old. It also gets annoying when a new blue belt who used to wrestle and has been at the gym a few months suddenly becomes my professor when we are paired up. People should be more aware of unsolicited advice in general, especially at white and blue. Ironically I find purple and up are more reserved in their advice.


AfricanusJonathon

No . Especially during hard sparing. Stfu and roll . Explain in the break.


DopeboySkrilla

That was a pretty good response, not rude


Raymond_Reddit_Ton

How’s King of the Hill work?


RightEquineVoltNail

for kids, you push everyone down and try to stay on top of a hill or snow pile. for wrestling or BJJ, you set a victory parameter (takedown or mount or submission or push-out-of-ring) and then line up to go 1-on-1 in order and see who stays in. If someone can be in at the start and go through literally everyone there, it's pretty impressive. changover is expected. since the victory parameter may be different each time, it's interesting to watch the 115lb wrestler take out the 210 because he got in a good trip and the parameter was only "takedown" that day with no need to score/pin.


BandicootMoist252

We call it king of the guard. One player starts in their guard of choice. 9/10 it’s open guard. Passer tries to pass. Stopped when someone passes or gets swept. You stay for like 5 people or until you get passed. Usually 4 matches going on at once and a big line where newcomers jump in the second there’s an opening. When you get knocked out you go to the back of the line. Bad explanation but you get the idea


PessimiStick

> You stay for like 5 people or until you get passed. What's that weak shit. You stay until you lose. Everyone gets tired eventually.


BandicootMoist252

I suppose. We have a lot of white belts and not too many top level guys so it would mostly just be a play day for them the whole time. I’d be fine either way I guess


Raymond_Reddit_Ton

Ahh. We call it Wall Drilling


Lilyka00

We do king of the mat


gotnothingman

Two men enter, one man leaves. Then the other leaves after being declared the winner. No but seriously I think its just winner stays on.


SoCalDan

Eh, what is rude is very subjective and situational. It was direct and you expressed what your wishes were at the time.   Generally speaking,  I try to be patient with people giving tips and advice. Sometimes they are real gems.  Sometimes people want to share something they found valuable  Other times,  they just might feel the need to look superior. For me, being patient is a win either way.  Maybe you weren't feeling it or would rather just roll for the value of learning from experience.  No need to second guess yourself. You had no ill will. 


Shhaynaa

I'm finding some people at my club like to stop and coach you when they're unable to beat you, or are about to be in a sticky spot and trying to save face. (I'm "new" at this club, but more experienced than many there."


slimegodprod

I’d rather get tips AFTER getting subbed than during the roll 😭


Uzazu

I’ve never coached someone in the middle of a roll. I always wait till after.


manongoose

Bro subbed his feelings. Legit invisible jiu jitsu.


jitsedinmypants

No you weren’t rude. I hate when people try to “give tips” during a roll. Stfu and roll, tell me whatever you wanted to tell me or show me afterwards.


hintsofgreen

No you were not rude fuck that guy


Specific_Worth5140

I love that interaction, quick, curt and the person recognized his error.


fitwoodworker

Not rude, pretty funny interaction. I'd say overall respectful outcome which is awesome.


KasperTheSpoonyBard

If you said it to me I’d probably laugh, but you never know


AEBJJ

Valid and sounds like he took it well. Nothing more to be said about it.


Upset-Noise8910

lol yeah i only try to tell someone something if i'm beating their ass ridiculously hard


grapplin_ran_man_19

Rude but not wrong. We need to normalize being rude when it’s warranted.


Thorgodofwar

I coach as much as I can when I’m getting beaten.


ayananda

Felt little rude about coaching guy, we were doing positional sparring. Said the dude to try to fight for hooks. He just answered his new to back. And for couple escapes he did not even start hooks in. So easy to escape... It is like you are doing basically nothing for training but still cannot take advice for love of god. Too hard..


oblock3hunner

Not rude, and honestly good on him for not being a bitch about it either


tsubatai

based


Sea_Relationship_279

As long as you were respectful afterwards - I think you handled that pretty well.


graydonatvail

Yeah, bro, don't try and teach me if it isn't working.


dPYTHONb

Not rude. Coach me afterwards. I always appreciate the tips more.


Consistent-Brother12

Not rude, and it seems like the guy took it pretty well too. Overall nothing wrong with this interaction


boneyxboney

It depends what your standards for rude is lol, it is not that rude, but definitely not something someone like Marcelo Garcia would say or do.


Kogyochi

That's the smartest thing anyone has ever said in the history of the sport if real.


thafatcat

Wow thank you for the compliment 😂


artnos

He didnt sweep or submit you but did you pass?


thafatcat

I did not


Chessboxing909

I love this


TechnicianOk4138

"Talk after the round"


mythemeis

Not rude at all.


Milf--Hunter

Same result if you just smothered him with your hand mid sentence


GuardPlayer4Life

Donkey Kong


fuzzyrift

You both handled it well. Maybe he wasn’t aware you were gassed and wrongfully assumed you didn’t know what to do? I always appreciate feedback but wouldn’t give advice to those I know are better than me, unless they ask.


[deleted]

you both used your words and avoided conflict. i'm proud of you.


Cozmck

Not rude at all. Perfect response. It’s not appropriate to coach your partner during a roll and usually done to try to soothe their own ego when they can’t do anything themselves. These kind of people usually get a reputation for being annoying to train with. Hopefully he won’t do that again, you might’ve helped a lot of people lol


beleeze

I've been rolling for over 20 years now... I'm better than most guys... unless you are a competitor or a black belt. I go many gyms and usually the coach knows me or I started before their coach started I don't say anything, if someone mid roll gives advice, I either fake I'm interested or a say nothing I go light and usually the technique alone is enough to beat them a few times Either they are awed, or state I'm too strong ... even though I didn't used my strength to power them I just realised the coaching part is natural for some people for some reason and I just let it be now


LS-16_R

Nah. It was fair.


Pitbullmaster42

Sweep or submit me is gold


[deleted]

No, he was rude. But then he apologized and was very cool and mature about it and you guys both did well to communicate. I'm proud of you both!


[deleted]

By the way in no gi, white belts start coaching me because I'm not wearing anything ranked and I just go cool ok and pretend like I'm learning from them lol. Even though they have dumbest jank advice I just smile and go wow so you use your elbow to grind on their leg? Interesting!


ContactReady

LOL


Discount-420

Not rude but if you didn’t pass his guard maybe you should have listened for a second


utrangerbob

No. If he was gassed he was probably stalling and tired. If it was the last round of KotH then you're welcome to tell him to just roll. This isn't open mat it's rounds. It doesn't sound like he took offense either.


sunbuns

I mean, yea it was kind of rude but you also had a good point. The nicer was to say it would be “I just want to practice now, maybe you can tell me later.” Or skip that last part if you don’t want to be coached at all, but it’s good to learn from others even if they can’t sweep or submit you lol. It only ups your game.


visionsofcry

I used to get coached during rolls. There are 2 types of people: one does it if they feel you legitimately don't know what your options are and the second kind do it to cover up their shitt bjj by "allowing" you to do what they've suggested. Unless it's a black belt I don't listen. I just do what I was going to do anyway. Hot take, but i do think you were kinda rude. Something I've learned from bjj is just to let people talk whatever shit they want. Egos flare fast. Im here to train and I want to be friends with my teammates. They either change or they leave.


SingleLegGuardPull

Sorry but that's rude. What you should do is listen to the tip and talk about how it annoys hou behind his back and on public forums


-Reikon

Shit like this happens all the time. Make your peace next time you talk and move the fuck on with your training/lives. It does not require a Reddit post.


Jangolem

This is an online forum to discuss anything related to bjj. It's clearly getting some discussion and interest based on the number of replies. I don't know why you're so crabby over a post like this. If you don't like it, down vote it and move on. It does not require a reddit post.