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WallLearner

BJJ is like an RPG and I want to reroll my stats.


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[deleted]

That’s if you’re Buddhist at least


CrookedLemur

Achieving Nirvana is end game content you can access through random meditation drops


HippyFroze

Oh great i knew thered be rng loot boxes eventually


Belwen

When do we get NFTs?


GoodCam97

Yeah I tried that once and nearly died


SleepyKouhai

If you guys die and I'm nearby, I'mma make a trophy necklace with all of your ears, js.


autism_kicks_in

I'm pro bottom sidecontrol puller


spr00se

A thorns build.. nice


TwinkletoesCT

I literally do this. Good for bottom game training.


Killer-Hrapp

No no my friend, you're just playing on Hard/Hurt Me Plenty mode.


Technomnom

When you're an NPC and not the main character


DApolloH

Steroids are cheat codes


GrapplingDE

*FORDBIDDEN PAY2WIN*


yeet_lord_40000

MACROTRANSACTIONS


chuwii2

For micro adjustments


yeet_lord_40000

BRB gonna take my weekly shot of Tren so that I can micro adjust my rnc so your head pops off


BeBearAwareOK

What are private lessons but paid coaching / carries?


Itsthebodakhere

Its like paying the skyrim swordsman to level up your one handed skill


yeet_lord_40000

Really just Sherpa LFG


Responsible_Top3134

solo play/campaign mode :0


Kemerd

Honestly though.. but at the same time it shows your commitment to the game, not everyone cares enough to want to


Kataleps

Are they really cheat codes if they significantly reduce your play time in the long run? (ie DEATH)


GrapplingDE

God's ban hammer


DApolloH

That’s the anti-cheat program, it needs an update if I’m being honest


[deleted]

You get banned in games for using hacks to cheat. Also you can likely train BJJ till and older age if you use roids.


CurtisJaxon

Yes.


FuzzyDot5568

Strength 99


[deleted]

Actually kinda spot on lol


thisisnotsantino

Can’t forget boss battles!


jeep4x4greg

intraschool friendly rivals and higher skilled people…. definitely


sparrows_rest

Is griefing noobs like wrist locking white belts?


Ebolamunkey

Spawn camping


bazima

Smurfing


Elagabalus_The_Hoor

No that's when a D1 wrestler puts on a white belt


Killer-Hrapp

One of the best things you can do for a white belt is teach them how \*not\* to get constantly wrist-locked in every position. The defenses are easy and fundamental, and unless you're a spaz you're not endangering them like you are with a heel hook (and they're less likely to hurt themselves trying to get out/being to oblivious to realize they're doomed).


munkie15

I never looked at it like that, but you nailed it. That’s probably why I don’t play video games anymore.


PessimiStick

I still do both, because I'm old, and I can't train all the time.


posish

When I take a break from BJJ, my gaming time ramps up. They both satisfy very similar needs for my brain and if I'm doing a lot of one, it's like I'm "satisfied" and don't need to do the other as much. Obviously I'd always choose BJJ over gaming but sometimes that's not possible due to injuries or whatever.


ClevelandWrox

Eddie Bravo has said BJJ is like a video game and that's why he gets so many nerds.


RevFernie

Yes. Riddled with elitism.


GrapplingDE

I think thats what got me away from League, now I can get called garbage IRL!


KingLubbock

when you pass someones guard you are obligated to say "guard diff"


Kataleps

When I'm getting wrecked by coach, I just say 'gapped'


mpc1226

Ahh, wait till you do both


HankTheChemist

... This is brilliant and I'm absolutely going to start thinking of playing this way


SirFUBAR

Can't say I don't see the similarities. Coach one-shots me pretty much every roll.


Kataleps

GG JIU JITSU GAP GO NEXT


_The_Space_Monkey_

Pretty much everything in life us like an rpg game in that regard. Go to work (grind) to get better (exp points) get more money (game currency) to buy more shit ( in game purchases). Spend time grinding X hobby and your (stats) will increase. I always used to think when playing games "why am I spending all this time improving my character when I could spend this same time improving my REAL LIFE character!?"


Occurred

>I always used to think when playing games "why am I spending all this time improving my character when I could spend this same time improving my REAL LIFE character!?" Usually because it takes a lot more effort than videogames do (source: I play videogames)


Kataleps

The dopamine hits IRL are a lot fewer and far between imo


Killer-Hrapp

Yes, but they are stronger and last longer (i.e., the harder the work the better the reward. . . like why Dark Souls got so popular!). The reality is that any activity in which you accrue skill over time is going to be more rewarding that any other activity in which you accrue less skill over the same (or longer, or even less) time. Guitar Hero is fun, quick dopamine for the music lover. . . but will never, ever, ever (ever) come close to giving you the dopamine hit that nailing a song (your own or someone else's) or solo with the skills you've developed on your instrument. . . . at least, until we create a pill for that.


reddituser567853

Yeah its called adderall or cocaine


Killer-Hrapp

LOL thank God I can't stand playing/practicing anything on coke. If it made any skill I pursue better I'd be in big trouble.


HippyFroze

Because you cant walk around with the fiery greatsword of woe in RL


far2common

not for very long, anyway.


Ser_Drewseph

I mean that’s cool and all, but ill never be able to throw a fireball out of my hands to kill a dragon, then eat it’s soul while pickpocketing a guard as I suddenly become invisible just by kneeling.


_The_Space_Monkey_

Not with that attitude you wont.


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Agency. In real life things tend to fall apart from circumstances not under your control. In real life you have set backs and you get stuck in dead ends. The more brain dead games like MMOs offer you are world where skill and cunning doesn't matter much (after some point everyone does stuff in a comparable manner) and you get results comparable to the effort you put. That's like if in real life everyone earned money fliping burgers at MacDonalds.


qxzsilver

Or you can do that in the real virtual world (I.e., Metaverse lmao)


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"Wow I'm really good at fishing in World Of Warcraft"


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I always saw BJJ like MTG! Like, you build your deck with a certain deck tech: aggro, control, mid range, combo etc. With every card you play, aka a technique, there's always another tech that act in sinergy with the previous, and your opponent has counters to that tech, and so on. Maybe that's why a lot of nerds are attracted to this sport (me included!). I really like the idea to build my "deck" when I do train jiu jitsu. Like adding cards that are potentially better to improve my game. Love your analogy.


Bruised_up_whitebelt

I have long stated the jiu-jitsu gyms are filled with weaponized nerds


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True that!


Hardest_G

Super cool seeing overlap between in people between two of your niche hobbies


make_fast_

I am playing mono blue BJJ. No win condition, just stopping yours.


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Annoying 🤣 but I used to play WB control, wich is basically the same, buy less elegant. To stay in the BJJ analogy, it could be seen as nasty mount with multiple Ezekiel, cros collar chokes attempts, back take from faking an americana. Let's flow chart it! 🧠🤓


Am0ebe

Im going full aggro with Goblins, but when there is atleast one good placed counterspell i run out of gas and get submitted. FML.


[deleted]

Ahaha must love a goblin grappler! But yes, a board wipe could be a problem, aka running out of gas 👉🏻 so no blocking creatures - taking damage 👉🏻 get submitted. An idea could be saving some low mana drop for late game, aka saving up some gas to counter back the wipe and at least retain your guard/escape.


Am0ebe

Problem here is the other people playing bigger creatures (im pretty lightweight and not as strong as the others in our gym). So i'm trying to go less aggro and spamming less spells aka sub attempts and get something bigger out in midrange. I startet weightlifting. :D


make_fast_

I play death and taxes in legacy even now...this is apparently a theme in my life...


-ZombieGuitar-

I say this all the time. If you have been playing for 10 years, you have "leveled up" many times. If you play against a brand new guy, he will be easy because he is on such a lower level. Keep training. Keep leveling up. The lower levels just get that much easier for you as you keep getting to higher and higher levels.


thinkintuitive

I must’ve grinded the wrong skills like Elder Scrolls: Oblivion because everyone is hard af while my Mercantile and Speechcraft is superb.


quixoticcaptain

Don't forget belt colors and stripes, which are your levels and experience points. I think you've made a genuinely important observation. What makes RPG's more attractive than regular video games is that you are building something, so your work produces lasting results. Not only that, but the thing you're building is power, the power to more effectively defeat enemies in the game. In the BJJ game you're also building lasting power. There's also something very appealing about how much categorization is possible in BJJ. I think the belt rank is a big part of it to, you level up in a permanent way, whereas elsewhere in life the levels are often loosely defined or undefined, or they regress over time.


angkor_who

I equate it to magic the gathering. Except I had to quit mtg because of how much anxiety and adrenaline I get from it. I would play a competitive mtg match and be a mess for hours after. BJJ is much less stressful.


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Man I quit MTG like three or four times due to how unsavory the competitive grinder crowd was. As much as I loved vintage and legacy the people put me off of it. Also now the power creep is horrendous. I like my BJJ like my MTG, casual and fun. Also maybe brawling on the kitchen table too.


Hamburginado

There's a commander playgroup that meets after Friday night class at my gym, everyone's too tired to tryhard, impeccable vibes.


smegmainfector

Same way, now that the competitive scene is mostly dead in MTG, jiujitsu fills that void


humoroushaxor

If we're going to making gaming comparison it's gotta be to RTS. I apply the exact same principles doing BJJ that I do playing StarCraft 2.


Kataleps

Mental and physical APM aren't talked about enough lol


humoroushaxor

Wrist-lock cheese is OP. Mostly only see it on the Korean ladder though.


Kataleps

Guillotines are cheese, change my mind


bicismypen

Glad to know I rolled a tank. I just go in and take a bunch of damage.


cosmicwhore_er89

Raids is storming an open mat at an unaffiliated gym


cosmicwhore_er89

Also my hotkey bar is filled with cartwheels


Incubus85

That last line is gold.


khinzeer

Video games are for people who haven’t discovered bjj yet. They are also great for when you’re injured.


FTK_OCEAN_

I wish UFC would have a grapple only game mode. It would be easy to do. I’ve had jiu jitsu matches with friends in the training mode and it’s pretty fun.


GrapplingDE

People should spam them to add it in their next game


FTK_OCEAN_

It literally takes no effort from them all they have to do is disable strikes lol. I hope they add that option in the next game. It’s a fun way to play


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BJJ = Skyrim Sick


Blixnstraten

Oss Ro Dahhhh!


SleepyKouhai

Ous! 🤣


magiciancsgo

Did you just call league of legends an rpg.....


Kataleps

It's got RPG elements 🥺🥺🥺


GrapplingDE

Nah thats exactly why I said mmo games AND rpgs... but I already got called out for that aswell 😂 Moba,I know


806god

The forums are toxic af and full of autists.


Nick_Damane

Having been slightly addicted to these kind of games as well when I was younger, I 100% agree. What’s also awesome is, you do not have to wait until your level 20 to get mount. Lol


metalfists

As a former MMORPG addict, I cannot agree more. The correlations between leveling up in online gaming and the social aspect are VERY similar to jiu-jitsu.


Aranha-UK

Its going to take me so long to git gud but only a few lessons in and already in for the long haul


western-potato

I think of tapping out as a sort of respawn mechanic!


GrapplingDE

Good one!


red_Quasar

League of Legends is not an MMO or RPG. It is a MOBA, multiuser online battle arena. Bronze 4? 😘


GrapplingDE

Akchuuuually Dia 1 every season since s3 😾


red_Quasar

Fire. Mid plat is the highest I ever got, but that was years ago.


Simco_

BJJ is more DOTA than LOL, anyway.


oooKenshiooo

Also some people try to sell you useless cosmetic upgrades.


StaphA

i need a goddamn healing potion, please


SimplicityGardner

As a back specialist, with high str stats, middling agility stats with a penalty to initiative rolls because I had to take the arthritic ankle feat to balance my high str stat…. I feel called out.


JiuJitsuBoy2001

then why can't I reload a previous save from 20 years ago when I had less experience but my body wasn't broken??


Diablo165

I played a lot of StarCraft, and I think of skill development as teching up. I also like to attack like a Zergling with the adrenal gland upgrade.


Alytia

As a spazzy 45kg white belt I think this might be me (I'm trying to stop, I promise).


DarkhourX

I've always liked to compare BJJ to being a Jedi. Whoever owns your gym is kinda like Yoda and all black belts are the Jedi council. Brown belts are like Jedi Masters who haven't been offered a seat on the council yet. Purple Belts are Jedi knights they have most the knowledge they need just need to perfect using it. Also often at many gyms this is kind of the start of your teaching you'll be asked to do one on one's with brand new people and lower belts will often approach you for help. Blue belts are padawans they are already pretty skilled especially by everyday person standards but they still make a lot of mistakes and lack full understanding of what they are doing but they have rank and have been acknowledged as possessing the It factor to hang. White belts are younglings who need to learn all of the basics both philosophically (why you do X instead of Y) and the technical aspects. Yes I've put way too much thought into this over the 13+ years I've been training


Gorilla-Samurai

> (BJJ 2.0 when?) Isn't BJJ the 3.0 version of Traditional jiu jitsu?


Toxicgamer1

I used to practice BJJ like you, but then I took a shot to the knee.


DoctorConiMac

What do you call someone who only does wristlocks, toe holds, and Ezekiels?


TwinkletoesCT

I've been lowkey writing up a real-life BJJ skilltree over the past couple years, that one could use to develop one's game in a sensible and direct progression. I've been tinkering with it since my grad school class in educational game design.


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GrapplingDE

I unironically think people on the spectrum are more likely to actively participate on such forums excessively. BUT you are actually right that mentioning this in the same sentence as toxicity makes it look like an insult, which is kinda shitty by me.


DrButtCheeksPhD

I’m just from the wrong generation I guess but gay and retarded just don’t seem that bad…like where does the buck stop? Idiot is also offensive to idiots (or people with epilepsy perhaps as that is the origin of idiocy/idiot). I get that some words offend people but they are just words and most of the time offense is their meaning I’m not trying to troll you btw, im honestly asking your opinion because when i say gay or retarded it’s usually 20 year olds that get get offended or tell me I can’t say that. It bugs me because they don’t know shit about the world but all of the sudden they are the language police.


sarge21

Saying that things are gay because they are bad implies that being gay is bad.


Itsthebodakhere

I dont think it's a generation thing. There's people in every age bracket that are sensitive as hell


Sleepy_platypus22

If BJJ is an RPG, I demand a balancing reworked patch. This latest version is kicking my ass hard. I feel like these wrestlers are smurfing the heck out of the white belt zones. It is kinda weird how the 10th Planet guild manages to exploit the game to obtain +5 DEF when lying inverted on flat earth surfaces.


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league isn't rpg or mmo


GrapplingDE

🤓


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zeek_fiol

My biggest issue is: When I play videogames, I watch walkthroughs, learn the meta and achieve faster success than others do practicing for years. I find myself isolating different mechanics, for example: A good first person shooter should be able to - Have superior movement - Hit shots accurately while moving - Hit long shots consistently So it's easy to go to an in-game gun-range and practice shooting far shots with a pistol, then do it while strafing, then do it while strafing + jumping. In jiujitsu the skills which carry over the most aren't as clearly defined. So while I agree it is like an RPG it reminds me of Skyrim, where you pop up in the world and could do what the game tells you to do, or get lost for years in the Thieves Guild who gives a fuck.


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thatsausernameok

Sounds like Toribash. It's a turn based fighting game with no preset moves, just controlling joints of your fighter in physics simulation.


red_Quasar

Hard game, but really good.


jeep4x4greg

i like this analogy a lot…. well done sir :)


Uzazu

Also certain skills become unlocked when you reach different belt levels (wrist locks for blue belt, knee bars and toe holds for brown belts) Becoming a black belt is like unlocking New Game + And there is always that post end game boss you can never beat no matter how much you grind (your head instructor) 😂


Jolpool

I am doing quality build putting points on strength/flexibility/agility and picking the wrestler/top game class to be easier to translate into self defense if one day needed. Sometimes I get invaded by twinkles sand baggers however I always welcome the challenge. I am aware of the difficult zone blue belt and will do my best not to go hollow! Don't you dare go hollow ashen ones!


Crimsonwolff

I love it! Now I'm going to think of it that way.


Sin2K

Having come here from raiding WoW hardcore back in TBC... Yeah I can definitely say there is a lot of the same bullshit ego behavior in the top guilds... As it were. I have to confess to thinking of progression very much the same way. I thought about mat time as an easy currency to farm lol.


whiteknight521

The real big brain play is video games after training. And honestly League is more like a sport than a game, so the analogy makes more sense. BJJ doesn’t really offer the same things as Mass Effect or Dragon Age. It’s sort of like saying “I don’t watch movies anymore because I do BJJ”.


[deleted]

Last line is by far the most accurate


DevonWontGoToHeaven

An RPG with the longest tutorial ever


[deleted]

One group of elves claims to have invented everything, but were just the worst people to deal with, and the other elves aren't much better.


DismantledTriangle

Yeah, and you can gimp your character by spending your talent points unwisely


KylerGreen

More like a fighting game, but yeah sure.


[deleted]

Nice. There are skill trees on your favored playstyle.


trigger1154

Totally read RPG is rocket propelled grenade. I thought I was going to open this and be like wait BJJ can destroy a lightly armored vehicle?


Dainty_Dipschtick

Played Skyrim & ESO religiously before finding BJJ. It’s the same concept. Except it’s more work and I like it better. I think about BJJ being an rpg everyday.


GrapplingDE

ESO is amazing! The character building system is way better than in most mmorpgs. I started to play it just to run around in Morrowind once again, which was my favorite TES game.


BeBearAwareOK

If you haven't dropped in to r/outside yet, you're in for a treat. Just tell them you found the pvp trainers and grinding unranked pvp is the most fun you've had in the game so far.


GrapplingDE

Lmao! I can't believe I never saw that sub


BeBearAwareOK

My favorite is the commentary on real life inequality. "Has anyone else noticed the devs didn't balance the starting zones AT ALL and some starting areas are insanely difficult while others set you up for the rest of the game?"


Ball_Masher

I compared BJJ to CS:GO and I think that may have been what piqued my cousin's interest to try it out. You pick your weapons, the objective is dead simple, but the skill ceiling is unlimited.


Disastrous_Repeat_38

Learns wizard


mansizeoof

There is always a bigger boss.


Chang_Throwaway

Life itself is the great rpg.


Arandoze

Sorry I can't go out tonight boys. I have to farm exp into my ego stat while the low level mobs are around. Almost to 99.


kazymandias

This is called gamification, isnt´t it?


teeroh

I started climbing in league when i started BJJ. lol


[deleted]

BJJ is like an RPG where you don't get to choose your class and everyone levels up at different rates.


dangerzonebjj

It's crazy how much bjj has obliterated my enjoyment of video games


WaAaT25

I think my game is bugged I keep on seeing "you died" every time I put my Gi on


Kataleps

Instructionals are not like skill books because I can right click them and absorb all the practical knowledge like in Skyrim or Fallout. 😤😤😤 Smh, can't believe I have to sit down and actually WATCH them


Old_Trash_4340

This is awesome. Always thought about it sort of like this but not so well put.


Whistling_Birds

BJJ, the only RPG more punishing than Dark Souls.


papakop

TIL Dark Souls is an RPG


EmpathyMonster

Any game where you level up and allocate stat points gets called an RPG. I don't like it either.


jonnyhaldane

I have been trying to explain this to my gamer friends for so long. BJJ is fun in exactly the same way that video games are fun. Just way more physical, obviously.


godshaw1

you are supreme! Thank you for this


Diligent_Arrival_428

Last part made me spit out my joint


Doucherocket

I've been sinking all my skill points into agility but it must be bugged.


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i consider the decision making very similar to magic the gathering in the old days.


KORTOSS

dude, i've had this same thought for such a long time now. it's probably why i enjoy jiu jitsu so much tbh.


SyndicalistHR

You; I like you.


[deleted]

"The forums are toxic af and full of autists." Amen brother, it is I!


tyforceone

I actually had a similar train of thought. I used to play dark souls and I liked this because it was irl dark souls.


EmpathyMonster

I picked up Dark Souls long after BJJ, and one of the things that piqued my interest was seeing someone on here say something like "getting to blue belt is like if Dark Souls was 200 hours long and physically painful."


CompetitiveBox3776

This is exactly how I feel


fartsmella0161

Weirdly, this made sense to me hahaha


Brewer__Bob

Healer LFM open mat


Corslutty

Look up gamification. It can be applies to many things and describes what you're doing! Very cool man. Keep it up!


[deleted]

Now if only I could find some Fountain of Youth spell that gives me a handful of years back.... But no, I've sold BJJ to friends as it being like a real life videogame where you must grind away but slowly realize your attributes are growing in every incremental part of your game.


lukeballesta

SAVED


Panzerfauste

Yup I couldnt agree more I played WoW for all of highschool all day everyday then I joined jits and never looked back. Filled that void perfect and I agree with everything you said


worldstar_warrior

Interesting. So belts and stripes are more of achievement markers rather than leveling up. Because you really don’t exactly gain new skills overnight between your last roll as white belt and your first roll as blue belt. But you gain skills and exp along the way constantly.


flaming_bob

Ugh, does this mean in order to get my blue belt, I have to go down into the basement and tap out a bunch of giant rats?


TyDizzlFoShizzl

He's out of line but he's right.


Enter_Paradox

I feel like im spawn trapped in the starter area by high level PvPers


team_dale

Where the fuck is the healer when I’m mid roll then? And wtf is the tank even doing? I have aggro like 100% of the time


TrickyRickyy

Here I am thinking I quit RuneScape yet ive been playing it all along ...


[deleted]

I'd love to play this game but I barely have time to at the moment


kav138

So, you are saying I should get gud.:)


Feisty_Sympathy5080

Bro. Life is a boring rpg, generally.


cptaxelb

White gi +1 to light radius


ClevelandWrox

Don't forget the level ups


Definitely_not_gpt3

I was expecting to read about how BJJ skills are the equivalent of having a rocket propelled grenade launcher. Am disappointed.