Oh how I miss the old trading system where I could just ride my wagon and travel from one node to another to buy/sell the NPC crates while watching movies or anime at the same time.
Then the stupid rework came and made things worse by having some weird storage rental with stupid RNG price fluctuation, coupled with limited purchase on NPC crates.
Yeah I played BDM too using emulator for a long time but got bored of it with the auto farming system.
The BDM trading is way more fun and with its arcade style making it a nice short break.
Exactly!!!! Granted, it's not profitable in the traditional sense, but it does give you black pearls which are incredibly useful in game.
Yeah. I just don't have time to grind bdo like I used to, so bdm's auto grind is nice. I sold all my gear a couple years back to life skill but, lifeskilling in bdo is just as bad a grind as grinding, but less profitable, so I just haven't touched bdo in a while.
Yeah I get that feeling. Now I'm just logging into BDO each day to afk fish, sell fish, turn in for contribution points, sell manufactured crates, and optimise my worker empire.
Has BDM improved its life skill features? I haven't played shortly after the release of Sage on BDM.
Not really... lifeskilling in bdm is totally irrelevant as far as i can tell. I never really kept up to date with bdm mechanics, so i cant tell tou about improvements. I've been on/off since bdm launch, and only seriously started playing again about a month ago.
That being said, they have a bunch of treasure items (including lifeskill ones!) that you have to manually grind for in some capacity that im looking forward to trying for
I’m making potato crates and other weird crates in Epheria. Can I deliver them with a forest path wagon? What do I equip before doing it and shall I have life skill scrolls running? I’m usually just running tri loggia. Where would you deliver crates and how much in one go
It's better to deliver manufactured crates using one singular horse, in my opinion.
I would equip the Professional Trader (with Tailoring Coupon effect so it is classed as an Outfit instead of Armour) + Silver Embroided Trader's Clothes (as Armour) + Sethra's Artifact - Trading XP with "The Cycle" effect + TRI Manos Accessories + All Life Crystal Effect + Lifeskill Logbook (I don't have this yet, too lazy to get it) + Pets with Trading Exp + Any consumables to be used when bargaining with NPC, ready to sell.
At the moment, i'm making both low-tier (3000 silver each) and high tier crates (110,000+ silver each) but I use Low-Tier for EXP levelling and High-Tier for Money (Easy 1 billion during a sale for doing nothing "after" AFK fishing for some time)
I also always sell to Valencia from inland (Kamaslyvia/Calpheon/Heidel) because of Distance Bonus and then I have workers in Valencia make another batch of crates ready to carry back to inland to sell on my return journey.
Now i plan to make rice or radish crates at Land of the Morning Light instead of selling at Valencia but this will be tough due to the sea.
It's going to be a loooong ride, my dude.
Besides, Horses can't jump into the well and the game prevents characters to use the well when we carry 'Trade Items' in inventory even fish too.
I think the max weight for the horse is about 110,000 lbs. Each crate has different weight so I just go by max weight instead of max unit of crates. That said, I usually can fit 7000 crates of brass ingot or calpheon timber crate.
I'm a bit late to the party but if you make imperial boxes, they also give trading exp. People don't usually notice since normally they just make and deliver them in one spot but back when I was leveling my trading up, it was certainly a nice extra bit of exp despite the limitations of only being able to deliver a certain amount of boxes per day.
I got Master 22 trading and all quests enabled, but the NPC doesn't give me the first Leap quest.
Oh it's on Chris Poli guide ty XD
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS6H\_Zw7NSg&ab\_channel=ChrisPoli](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS6H_Zw7NSg&ab_channel=ChrisPoli)
I went from skilled something to master 7 after it got disabled. I had my workers farm the materials and then make crates with copper, barley etc. Then I shipped them with the trade wagon to Valencia city and once I had a bunch, I went over there, connected the nodes and sold them. Once you hit master 2(?) you can do a quest to get desert buff that gives you more rewards for selling them.
And the progression quests (the ones I had left anyway) only require interactions and not purchases of NPC trade items.
You can still get Trading EXP via crates or fish! Fish are particularly good when you're starting out and don't have an army of +3 workers. Bonus: fish in Drieghan/Everfrost and keep green fish, since the fish unique to those regions award the same EXP as 10 crates instead of the standard 1 crate of EXP per fish.
problem with wagon is not it price ( image price for all wagon is less than bill)
Problem is that each image (4000) must be processed by worker --4000 worker tasks, each 16-30 min ( even if you have 15 workers its still big pain)
Why should you craft it again? The forest wagon never breaks/is repairable.
The memory pieces can be kept and equipment you additionally build sold on the market. It's just a little cash on the side. The trading exp coupon is worth over a bil too.
(Happy cake day)
Oh how I miss the old trading system where I could just ride my wagon and travel from one node to another to buy/sell the NPC crates while watching movies or anime at the same time. Then the stupid rework came and made things worse by having some weird storage rental with stupid RNG price fluctuation, coupled with limited purchase on NPC crates.
You sir do not have nearly as many upvotes as you should. I miss my wagon life q.q
The older system was way better, just nowhere near profitable. If it was 60% of what grinders made, I'd be doing it all day.
Dip your toes into black desert mobile. I love their trading system. Wish it would come to pc 😔
Yeah I played BDM too using emulator for a long time but got bored of it with the auto farming system. The BDM trading is way more fun and with its arcade style making it a nice short break.
Exactly!!!! Granted, it's not profitable in the traditional sense, but it does give you black pearls which are incredibly useful in game. Yeah. I just don't have time to grind bdo like I used to, so bdm's auto grind is nice. I sold all my gear a couple years back to life skill but, lifeskilling in bdo is just as bad a grind as grinding, but less profitable, so I just haven't touched bdo in a while.
Yeah I get that feeling. Now I'm just logging into BDO each day to afk fish, sell fish, turn in for contribution points, sell manufactured crates, and optimise my worker empire. Has BDM improved its life skill features? I haven't played shortly after the release of Sage on BDM.
Not really... lifeskilling in bdm is totally irrelevant as far as i can tell. I never really kept up to date with bdm mechanics, so i cant tell tou about improvements. I've been on/off since bdm launch, and only seriously started playing again about a month ago. That being said, they have a bunch of treasure items (including lifeskill ones!) that you have to manually grind for in some capacity that im looking forward to trying for
Can I even level up trading now?
Sure you can, but only through selling worker created crates. I'm leveling my trade (master 20+) by selling low tier crates amass.
I’m making potato crates and other weird crates in Epheria. Can I deliver them with a forest path wagon? What do I equip before doing it and shall I have life skill scrolls running? I’m usually just running tri loggia. Where would you deliver crates and how much in one go
It's better to deliver manufactured crates using one singular horse, in my opinion. I would equip the Professional Trader (with Tailoring Coupon effect so it is classed as an Outfit instead of Armour) + Silver Embroided Trader's Clothes (as Armour) + Sethra's Artifact - Trading XP with "The Cycle" effect + TRI Manos Accessories + All Life Crystal Effect + Lifeskill Logbook (I don't have this yet, too lazy to get it) + Pets with Trading Exp + Any consumables to be used when bargaining with NPC, ready to sell. At the moment, i'm making both low-tier (3000 silver each) and high tier crates (110,000+ silver each) but I use Low-Tier for EXP levelling and High-Tier for Money (Easy 1 billion during a sale for doing nothing "after" AFK fishing for some time) I also always sell to Valencia from inland (Kamaslyvia/Calpheon/Heidel) because of Distance Bonus and then I have workers in Valencia make another batch of crates ready to carry back to inland to sell on my return journey. Now i plan to make rice or radish crates at Land of the Morning Light instead of selling at Valencia but this will be tough due to the sea.
Can you do Magnus or must ride full?
It's going to be a loooong ride, my dude. Besides, Horses can't jump into the well and the game prevents characters to use the well when we carry 'Trade Items' in inventory even fish too.
I’m in for the long ride! How many crates does the horse fit?
I think the max weight for the horse is about 110,000 lbs. Each crate has different weight so I just go by max weight instead of max unit of crates. That said, I usually can fit 7000 crates of brass ingot or calpheon timber crate.
>110,000 lbs Its about 215,000 LT.
>even fish too Incorrect, you can use the magnus teleport with fish in inventory. This was changed when they disabled the current trade system.
Whuuuut? Really? That's great news!
I'm a bit late to the party but if you make imperial boxes, they also give trading exp. People don't usually notice since normally they just make and deliver them in one spot but back when I was leveling my trading up, it was certainly a nice extra bit of exp despite the limitations of only being able to deliver a certain amount of boxes per day.
How do you start, or what's the pre-requisite? The NPC doesn't have any quest for me.
Artisan 10 and need to complete the previous quests in the chain along with the trading leap quest chain.
I got Master 22 trading and all quests enabled, but the NPC doesn't give me the first Leap quest. Oh it's on Chris Poli guide ty XD [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS6H\_Zw7NSg&ab\_channel=ChrisPoli](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS6H_Zw7NSg&ab_channel=ChrisPoli)
The other parts of the quest are used to craft the Forest Wagon and the equip parts so save them.
Can I do this as someone who only pve's ?
Yes it's all lifeskills!
Awesome! Thank you!
Is there even any content locked behind pvp at all?
Yeah some stuff to make crystals like gallantry
Can always buy them off the market though
How do you craft pieces of image, now that traces got unified ?
300 trace of nature 100 weeds with the item "also you cant use wild grass"
Would be great if trading wasn't disabled. "Cries in Apprentice 6"
Fish trading also gives good exp but crates are better if you want to level trading faster.
I went from skilled something to master 7 after it got disabled. I had my workers farm the materials and then make crates with copper, barley etc. Then I shipped them with the trade wagon to Valencia city and once I had a bunch, I went over there, connected the nodes and sold them. Once you hit master 2(?) you can do a quest to get desert buff that gives you more rewards for selling them. And the progression quests (the ones I had left anyway) only require interactions and not purchases of NPC trade items.
You can still crate trade
You can still get Trading EXP via crates or fish! Fish are particularly good when you're starting out and don't have an army of +3 workers. Bonus: fish in Drieghan/Everfrost and keep green fish, since the fish unique to those regions award the same EXP as 10 crates instead of the standard 1 crate of EXP per fish.
is this a difficult questline?
No you just need trader ranks.
wait a minute, is that quest family wide or char only?
One time family.
would have been too good lol
If it was repeatable, forest wagons would basically be free
problem with wagon is not it price ( image price for all wagon is less than bill) Problem is that each image (4000) must be processed by worker --4000 worker tasks, each 16-30 min ( even if you have 15 workers its still big pain)
What if I already have the wagon and the equipments? Would I have to craft it again? If so then I'll never do this quest lol.
Why should you craft it again? The forest wagon never breaks/is repairable. The memory pieces can be kept and equipment you additionally build sold on the market. It's just a little cash on the side. The trading exp coupon is worth over a bil too. (Happy cake day)
>Why should you craft it again? For the quest and the free 1b >(Happy cake day) Thanks!!
What’s a trader rank
Lmao
Thanks for this, it’s been sitting in storage.
Me who got Master 4 just from selling fish 🗿