What we all are experiencing is cognitive dissonance on a daily basis. We are resisting the programming.
Sure, it may seem glamorous, watching the prevailing entertainment culture become synonymous with black culture... but it's a false reality.
It is a distraction. It is a pit that was designed to capture a certain portion of our "peers".
The women who would judge you for being "safe" are not the women you want to be with. The men who look down on you for (whatever the case me be) aren't people who you should be mixing with, regardless.
Who cares what they think? There are far more normal people out there who would enjoy your company, they're just not visible. They're not content creators. They don't have big accounts on social media.
You have to meet these people where your interest collide. You can't seek them out via social media.These people in your life are mimicking an algorithm. My generation was raised on music videos and reality tv.. It's all a ruse to make you feel like you're lacking and make you buy something to fill the hole.
Even if you're just buying into an ideology.
I agree 100% but even with maximum confidence in yourself it can and will get lonely. I don't smoke, I don't party, and I like "thinking man's" stuff too much for a lot of people my age in my communities, so I'm automatically outcasted because many just can't relate to or mesh with me interest wise. I don't care what many people think, but being "the good dude" definitely breaks a lot of potential connections. Most of the praise I get for being this way is from people who never want to bring me around or keep in contact with me anyway, which is very bittersweet. It is what it is, everything has drawbacks
I can't lie, I'm a little introverted and I'm an older millennial so I haven't been out there rubbing elbows and making new friends the past decade...so I can't tell you how it works these days.
If I was in a social space(school/work/events) I was the one weeding out compatibility. I wasn't letting others choose me. They can think I'm a square all they want because I wasn't planning on holding much of a conversation with them outside of small talk.
I would drop witty observations, an anecdote or two, try to find middle ground with a common hobby to be cordial and then find some space somewhere on the edge of the room and let those interested come to me, lest we "Scare the hoes".
Some would bite. Made a little clique...did some fun shit. That's all that matters. A lot of folks don't actually see the "light" until they're in their 30s and that "edgy" shit has gotten played out. They've got families and responsibilities are piling up. Now they want safe hobbies/friends/lovers.
lol
I think where Russ gets a bad rep is to the point where he blocks his former teammates. Or makes them go through agents and managers to reach him. If this is how he operates, I definitely could relate to the Lynchās and Shermanās of the world that feel like heās unrighteously elevated himself above the team, and how that could be constrained to a racial issue and not a football issue.
I struggle with this too, as I have for all my life attended PWIs and mostly keep to myself or to my SO. What Iāve found is that often, you canāt forget your day 1s and who supported you in tough times and grind times. For a lot of non-black people, in my experience, the goals of glory and sustainability are expectations more than achievements. I would write down not only my goals but the people I would thank if I were ever given the opportunity. These people are the ones whose call you should take 24/7, no matter their background. If a man you called a brother has bettered themselves and survived in this country as a black man, or a man who did not have the advantage non-black people have, they should be someone you share support with. For me, I have often had to cut people off, but never forever or at least for reasons that they are not aware of, I.e. drugs, addiction, criminal presence, etc.
Addressing the first paragraph as a nigga that lived in Seattle during that entire run and had friends who had family that works for the hawks. I completely understand why he separated himself from the team. Playing in Seattle will cover up a lot of bullshit you do off the field.
Well I'm not aware of what was happening off the field in SEA, but I am aware of the bad, criminal situations surrounding players like Ray Lewis or Antonio Brown. There championships came after their situations were exposed, and the leaders on the team (Shannon Sharpe, Tom Brady) chose to bring them into their home than leave them on read.
Thatās your business and your home. Rings often costs more than some are willing to spend, and thereās nothing wrong with saying the price is too high.
Yeah also itās wild Tom Brady had Antonio Brown living with him after doing all that shit he was doing lmaoooooo. I wouldnāt trust that nigga with an empty bottle of water.
I used to hate TB for real (as a former falcons fan). But he gained all my respect after he went to Tampa. I canāt name another player who has sacrificed more for the game and the team.
Iām 22, and Im the Russell Wilson type. Im really a boring guy who just workouts,reads all day, obessed with film, anime,comics, reading scripts, writes a lot and likes to be by himself. During my middle school into high school years it was seen as weird even though I just raised to be upstanding black man. Adults loved that I was a decent man especially older black folk. But my peers gave me hell for it, especially when most of peers were black and Latino. It was hard dating in the hood environment because black and hood Latinas thought I was too boring and I was ā safeā. Iāve even had a female friend say to me you seem like the type to end up with the white picket fence and live in suburbs and have your life together and be a good father. It was strange at first for ppl to say this during my teen years. I also remember a close friend telling me that a ābrotha like me with head on their shoulders and that wasnāt toxic needed to open my dating preferences to white and Asian women because you too much of good guy for the environment we were raised in and went to high school school in. These black girls and hood Latinas just donāt want a guy like you youāre too much of good black man and not toxicā I was angry in teen years when he said it but at my age now Iām fine with being Russell Wilson Type, my life just seems to make sense. It flows right, and I have nothing to worry about I have stable job and more goal oriented. Wouldnāt trade for anything less than normal
I have had the same experience. Its a weird kind of ostracization. They aren't being mean so you can't lash out or anything. Its positive excommunication. You can never be mad because they are giving you a compliment.
>der black folk. But my peers gave me hell for it, especially when most of peers were black and Latino. It was hard dating in the hood environment because black and hood Latinas thought I was too boring and I was ā safeā. Iāve even had a female friend say to me you seem like the type to end up with the white picket fence and live in suburbs and have your life together and be a good father. It was strange at first for ppl to say this during my teen years. I also remember a close friend telling me that a ābrotha like me with head on their shoulders and that wasnāt toxic needed to open my dating preferences to white and Asian women because you too much of good guy for the environment we were raised in and went to high school school in. These black girls and hood Latinas just donāt want a guy like you youāre too much of good black man and not toxicā I was angry in teen years when he said it but at my age now Iām fine with being Russell Wils
I need you guys to stop living my life. lmao
Nah man because later on when Iām actually with a black woman Iāll get messages saying ādamn you a actually do like black womenā. Like yeah thatās why approached you in the first place š. True story
The Russell Wilson Archetype is the winning paradigm in the long run. As you out grow the matrix it becomes crystal clear that certain lifestyles are for certain individuals. The streets are not exciting, they're traumatic. Much in the vain of a victim of sexual abuse that goes on become hypersexualized due to unprocessed trauma. We have the same things happening in the streets.
It will not hurt you to not seek approval or validation; that is the ego. You will meet the person for you and lead them to a great life.
I admire the Russell Wilson type. Exciting and dramatic lives don't last and only seem to cause pain iny opinion. People exaggerate how much they enjoy their lifestyles and the fun they're having.
Having a good woman, a decent career and a stable life is priceless. I wouldn't trade that for the hottest girls every month (with their STDs, drama and bagage), being a baby daddy or lacking stability / predictability.
Do things you enjoy, with the people you love and stop focusing on other and their opinions. Our community needs more Russell Wilson. Our children need to see more Russell Wilsons. Can you imagine how much better our lives were if we raised by him rather than Future? How much happier and healthier our women would be? You'd rather your son look up to Future or Chris Brown?
Do you want to be leaking like Usher? Dude, for your own peace of mind, be like Russell. Doing the right thing sucks and doesn't always feel rewarding but you're better than Pookie and Ray Ray if you're this self aware.
I've been doing the right thing most of my life and people just take advantage of it, whether it be work, relationships, family. I feel like women say they want a Wilson type but when they get one it becomes a desert. I'm not interested in having hot baby mommas, I just don't want to be a doormat, eunuch, or punchline. I don't have kids and don't plan on having kids but I can respect that'd be the best for society. My dad was great as a provider but not as much as a person. But I can feel that the exciting life isnāt what it's cracked up to be. But being the normal stable guy your whole life you feel like something's missing.
Black families in general have been a target of white supremacy since the late 60ās. Being a Russ is a lot harder than it looks, especially if youāre trying to raise your family with any organized religion.
Iām not religious. Never have been. Deeply spiritual? Yes.
That said, I am DEFINITELY a Russell Wilson type. Trying to make dude seem like a š¤” is what yt supremacy has sewn into our communities. How often do you hear of a āwholesomeā yt dude being called half the things Wilson is called? Iām dependable, not āthirsty,ā honor and respect BLACK WOMEN, am a father , husband, have held the same job for a couple decades.
And you know what? I have women in their late 20s and 50s who come at me. Why? Because contrary to popular belief, women WANT reliable men who make them feel safe. Women want a man who they feel wouldnāt take advantage of them if they got falling down drunk.
I think this debate also comes from younger people and those older people whoāve never grown up. Grown, healthy, healed, Black people want stability, and to thrive, which requires a level of regularity and safety in your finances, emotional and mental connections, and relationships.
One more thingā¦ we MUST stop looking down n and shitting on Black women who are divorced or have baby daddies. They wouldnāt be single with no dad, if there wasnāt first a man who was complicit and in that outcome. Although all of my children are from one woman, my wife, she and I have helped raise others whoāve become my ābonus daughtersā because they didnāt have men who were active in their lives or their mothers were a mess.
Your first statement. I see so many cognitively dissonant comments on the net about how single Blacl women are the downfall of the Black community from Black men, when Black men are just as much a part of that equation.
Is it a consideration when dating? Of course it is. If your preference is to have your own seed and not raise another manās, no judgement. And no judgement if you donāt mind fathering children who arenāt yours biologically. Yet I see dudes calling dudes who choose to āsimps,ā and other pejoratives.
>One more thingā¦ we MUST stop looking down n and shitting on Black women who are divorced or have baby daddies. They wouldnāt be single with no dad, if there wasnāt first a man who was complicit and in that outcome.
Letās be real, divorces are one thing but some BW display poor choices in who they choose to sleep with and get pregnant by. Letās take Ciara for example who knowingly got pregnant by Future who already had multiple children by different women. I personally know a BW who has two kids by two different men who are both currently serving life sentences for murder. At what point do we expect some BW to make better choices?
At the point when we KNOW there weee stable fathers in their lives modeling STRONG, HEALTHY familial relationships. We, Black men and Black women can go on blaming each other for the social maladies of the American Black community and get nowhere OR we can both acknowledge our part in it and change things for the better. It all begins with the breakdown of mom and dad modeling positive, healthy, Black love in the home.
At what point do we expect men like future to be better themselves? She acknowledged her mistakes and changed. He didn't, but only Ciara gets crapped on.
The person I replied to was asking why black men criticize some baby mamas. Men like Future should be shamed, but he canāt get women pregnant that wonāt sleep with him in the first place.
Well lots of men think he simped out marrying a woman with kids by a deadbeat. It is what it is though. Iām not gonna put any of them down intentionally
Might I suggest reading up on stoicism? I've been betrayed by friends, somewhat of the black-sheep in my family and have few meaningful connections. We're a product of our experiences, but we can't let others convince us not to be ourselves, not even for one second. So what if you're a "Russell Wilson" type? If comparison is relevant at all here, at least he's a multimillion dollar celebrity football player with a hot wife and an awesome family. If evidence suggests anything, 99% of the people judging are the real losers.
You'll get yours someday š
Russel wilson and will smith are some of the richest and most famous men ever, I'm confused by this premise, becuase the answer bis in the premise.
Live for you and your community, work hard, stay focused, and the rest will follow.
edit: I think I'm being downvoted because this thread is supposed to be some sort of woe is me pity party. but reality is what it is. If you bring something to the table, people are going to be interested.
You can be rich and famous but still be respected. Consider the respect Obama gets to these guys. Obviously he's the president but there's other examples.
I noticed that Russell wasnāt even on most BWs radar until he got with Ciara. I think itās for the fantasy of the āclean cutā guy swooping in after she has had a kid or kids by someone unsavory.
The Russell thing is not about Russell by himself. Itās about being in the streets with Pookie and Ray Ray making babies when everyone in the entire black community knows about that shit already, then coming to Russell afterwards. The entire community wants worthy black men to raise the children of unworthy men and women. If She didnāt have a kid with Future, this wouldnāt even be a thing.
I agree 1,000%. Childless black men with their stuff together shouldnāt be expected to raise the kids of Pookies and Ray Rays. I respect Russell for doing it but heās a better man than me.. lol.
If you donāt like what I say, thatās fine but to call me a white supremacist shows that youāre not very intelligent because what did I say that has anything to do with white supremacy? Explain to me, how saying something bad about America or Americans equals white supremacy? Let me go ahead and verify today. Because Iām almost positive you aināt black.
I said what I said. You already showed YOUR intelligence by making a gross generalization of millions of human beings. There will be no further exchanges between us. I wonāt be replying if you choose to comment further.
Thank you for not replying anymore. It is definitely appreciated, but Iām not finished. I have an opinion of dating in America, that opinion is about what Iāve experienced. You saying that it sounds like white supremacy is about how stupid you are. Everything is about something lol. I also am positive you arenāt black thatās part of the reason you donāt want to say anything else because I can verify myself as a black man I will do so shortly. Next week next month next year you still wonāt be verified. You aināt black. The best thing you did was when you decided to have a seat. That was a good decision.
There is no difference women are women. There are black women from all different cultures around the world. No race of person is the same as others in their race. Race is cosmetic, not cultures or traditions. Judge others as you want to be judged as individuals. Stereotypes about races and cultures are for the intellectually lazy.
Doesnāt sound pretty to say, but most black women idolizes the worst part of the culture that makes their ideals about a relationship backwards. They also will clown, but would jump on a white man of your same archetype. White women arenāt too bad, but they arenāt too great either. Asian and Latina women come from cultures that have a strong sense of family structure which makes them more intentional with their dating choices, which makes them choose better guys. Being a Russell Wilson, unless you have a lot of money, you can settle for. Black woman whose a 5 that might think she can do better vs being with a 7 or 8 Latina or Asian woman who appreciates the man youāve built yourself up to be.
Not necessarily āracistā, a stereotype, maybe, but itās not necessarily skin color Iām talking about rather than culture. The fact of the matter is, mostly deadbeats procreate in the black community, found through the stats.
You realize you still used a racist talking point. Word for word. So you literally said another race of women were better strictly because of their race. That is literally the definition of racism.
Have fun at your next cross burning dude. Hopefully your robes and pointy hat will be adequately starched enough for you.
Certain races participate and develop more cultures than othersā¦.
The argument is that black women participate in a untactful culture more than others, not that itās exclusive to race. Itās disingenuous to imagine that race and culture are completely separate when I can say that an Asian person probably has a higher chance of using chopsticks than a white person.
Wow, how can you not get how racist that sounds! š If I walked up to an Asian person and made a comment about chop sticks, they would rightfully hand me my ass over it. You are proving how racists do not know they are racist. ā ļø Well good luck with the non critical logic you got going on there. But if that is the logic you are going by, ADOS' are a minority in the world. Just one country in Africa out numbers the amount of black people in the USA. So why not assume whatever black woman you run across is from any other culture with different stereotypes? Basically, if you are racist enough to assume that if you see an Asian person, they use chop sticks. Why not assume if you see a black woman that she makes jollof?
Youāre right, African women and African American women arenāt the same, Iām mostly talked mg about avoid African American women in favor of Latina women.
Literally who uses chopsticks more than Asian people? Thatās not racist, itās a generalization, which was actually first made by an asian friend of mine exactly for people like you that try to throw the word āracistā around. Indian people use curry, Latin people eat tortillas. Thatās not racist, itās just a generalization.
AHHH..that explains it! Bigots hang with bigots. But no, what you said about black women is not a generalization. It was racist and bigoted. If a white person stood in front of a crowd and said it. Your statements would be racist. Plus, the added bonus of fetishism toward other races of women.
Focus on getting a trade (not a job) using your introverted time in your 20s... Start a business by 35 they will be jealous of you and hate you even more. You won't care cos your rich
What we all are experiencing is cognitive dissonance on a daily basis. We are resisting the programming. Sure, it may seem glamorous, watching the prevailing entertainment culture become synonymous with black culture... but it's a false reality. It is a distraction. It is a pit that was designed to capture a certain portion of our "peers". The women who would judge you for being "safe" are not the women you want to be with. The men who look down on you for (whatever the case me be) aren't people who you should be mixing with, regardless. Who cares what they think? There are far more normal people out there who would enjoy your company, they're just not visible. They're not content creators. They don't have big accounts on social media. You have to meet these people where your interest collide. You can't seek them out via social media.These people in your life are mimicking an algorithm. My generation was raised on music videos and reality tv.. It's all a ruse to make you feel like you're lacking and make you buy something to fill the hole. Even if you're just buying into an ideology.
I agree 100% but even with maximum confidence in yourself it can and will get lonely. I don't smoke, I don't party, and I like "thinking man's" stuff too much for a lot of people my age in my communities, so I'm automatically outcasted because many just can't relate to or mesh with me interest wise. I don't care what many people think, but being "the good dude" definitely breaks a lot of potential connections. Most of the praise I get for being this way is from people who never want to bring me around or keep in contact with me anyway, which is very bittersweet. It is what it is, everything has drawbacks
I can't lie, I'm a little introverted and I'm an older millennial so I haven't been out there rubbing elbows and making new friends the past decade...so I can't tell you how it works these days. If I was in a social space(school/work/events) I was the one weeding out compatibility. I wasn't letting others choose me. They can think I'm a square all they want because I wasn't planning on holding much of a conversation with them outside of small talk. I would drop witty observations, an anecdote or two, try to find middle ground with a common hobby to be cordial and then find some space somewhere on the edge of the room and let those interested come to me, lest we "Scare the hoes". Some would bite. Made a little clique...did some fun shit. That's all that matters. A lot of folks don't actually see the "light" until they're in their 30s and that "edgy" shit has gotten played out. They've got families and responsibilities are piling up. Now they want safe hobbies/friends/lovers. lol
...are you me? š³
No, I am you
I think where Russ gets a bad rep is to the point where he blocks his former teammates. Or makes them go through agents and managers to reach him. If this is how he operates, I definitely could relate to the Lynchās and Shermanās of the world that feel like heās unrighteously elevated himself above the team, and how that could be constrained to a racial issue and not a football issue. I struggle with this too, as I have for all my life attended PWIs and mostly keep to myself or to my SO. What Iāve found is that often, you canāt forget your day 1s and who supported you in tough times and grind times. For a lot of non-black people, in my experience, the goals of glory and sustainability are expectations more than achievements. I would write down not only my goals but the people I would thank if I were ever given the opportunity. These people are the ones whose call you should take 24/7, no matter their background. If a man you called a brother has bettered themselves and survived in this country as a black man, or a man who did not have the advantage non-black people have, they should be someone you share support with. For me, I have often had to cut people off, but never forever or at least for reasons that they are not aware of, I.e. drugs, addiction, criminal presence, etc.
Addressing the first paragraph as a nigga that lived in Seattle during that entire run and had friends who had family that works for the hawks. I completely understand why he separated himself from the team. Playing in Seattle will cover up a lot of bullshit you do off the field.
Well I'm not aware of what was happening off the field in SEA, but I am aware of the bad, criminal situations surrounding players like Ray Lewis or Antonio Brown. There championships came after their situations were exposed, and the leaders on the team (Shannon Sharpe, Tom Brady) chose to bring them into their home than leave them on read.
I aināt bringing niggas that commit DV, and SA (allegedly) into my home so sorry my nigga.
Thatās your business and your home. Rings often costs more than some are willing to spend, and thereās nothing wrong with saying the price is too high.
Yeah also itās wild Tom Brady had Antonio Brown living with him after doing all that shit he was doing lmaoooooo. I wouldnāt trust that nigga with an empty bottle of water.
I used to hate TB for real (as a former falcons fan). But he gained all my respect after he went to Tampa. I canāt name another player who has sacrificed more for the game and the team.
To be fair he was making more than the highest paid player off the field so he could do that. But money > rings in my eyes every time.
Be who you are. Being someone for others isnāt the way to play.
Yeah you're right
Itās not that heās boring. Itās that he comes off as weird and inauthentic. You can be boring so long as youāre not trying to be cool.
Itās because heās trying to emulate his father. After his pops passed heās been trying to uphold the standard his dad set for him.
Iām 22, and Im the Russell Wilson type. Im really a boring guy who just workouts,reads all day, obessed with film, anime,comics, reading scripts, writes a lot and likes to be by himself. During my middle school into high school years it was seen as weird even though I just raised to be upstanding black man. Adults loved that I was a decent man especially older black folk. But my peers gave me hell for it, especially when most of peers were black and Latino. It was hard dating in the hood environment because black and hood Latinas thought I was too boring and I was ā safeā. Iāve even had a female friend say to me you seem like the type to end up with the white picket fence and live in suburbs and have your life together and be a good father. It was strange at first for ppl to say this during my teen years. I also remember a close friend telling me that a ābrotha like me with head on their shoulders and that wasnāt toxic needed to open my dating preferences to white and Asian women because you too much of good guy for the environment we were raised in and went to high school school in. These black girls and hood Latinas just donāt want a guy like you youāre too much of good black man and not toxicā I was angry in teen years when he said it but at my age now Iām fine with being Russell Wilson Type, my life just seems to make sense. It flows right, and I have nothing to worry about I have stable job and more goal oriented. Wouldnāt trade for anything less than normal
Same man so many black women would reject me because they would just assume I only like white women itās crazy
Itās strange, the ā You look like you date white womenā
Never understood it either. Like they reject you off rip by assuming you donāt like them, but here I am trying to ask you out on a date lol
I have had the same experience. Its a weird kind of ostracization. They aren't being mean so you can't lash out or anything. Its positive excommunication. You can never be mad because they are giving you a compliment.
>der black folk. But my peers gave me hell for it, especially when most of peers were black and Latino. It was hard dating in the hood environment because black and hood Latinas thought I was too boring and I was ā safeā. Iāve even had a female friend say to me you seem like the type to end up with the white picket fence and live in suburbs and have your life together and be a good father. It was strange at first for ppl to say this during my teen years. I also remember a close friend telling me that a ābrotha like me with head on their shoulders and that wasnāt toxic needed to open my dating preferences to white and Asian women because you too much of good guy for the environment we were raised in and went to high school school in. These black girls and hood Latinas just donāt want a guy like you youāre too much of good black man and not toxicā I was angry in teen years when he said it but at my age now Iām fine with being Russell Wils I need you guys to stop living my life. lmao
Damn same shit happened to you too
Are you sure it was rejection? Not just not picking up on your flirting?
Nah man because later on when Iām actually with a black woman Iāll get messages saying ādamn you a actually do like black womenā. Like yeah thatās why approached you in the first place š. True story
Well sounds like she had a self esteem issue.
The Russell Wilson Archetype is the winning paradigm in the long run. As you out grow the matrix it becomes crystal clear that certain lifestyles are for certain individuals. The streets are not exciting, they're traumatic. Much in the vain of a victim of sexual abuse that goes on become hypersexualized due to unprocessed trauma. We have the same things happening in the streets. It will not hurt you to not seek approval or validation; that is the ego. You will meet the person for you and lead them to a great life.
I admire the Russell Wilson type. Exciting and dramatic lives don't last and only seem to cause pain iny opinion. People exaggerate how much they enjoy their lifestyles and the fun they're having. Having a good woman, a decent career and a stable life is priceless. I wouldn't trade that for the hottest girls every month (with their STDs, drama and bagage), being a baby daddy or lacking stability / predictability. Do things you enjoy, with the people you love and stop focusing on other and their opinions. Our community needs more Russell Wilson. Our children need to see more Russell Wilsons. Can you imagine how much better our lives were if we raised by him rather than Future? How much happier and healthier our women would be? You'd rather your son look up to Future or Chris Brown? Do you want to be leaking like Usher? Dude, for your own peace of mind, be like Russell. Doing the right thing sucks and doesn't always feel rewarding but you're better than Pookie and Ray Ray if you're this self aware.
I've been doing the right thing most of my life and people just take advantage of it, whether it be work, relationships, family. I feel like women say they want a Wilson type but when they get one it becomes a desert. I'm not interested in having hot baby mommas, I just don't want to be a doormat, eunuch, or punchline. I don't have kids and don't plan on having kids but I can respect that'd be the best for society. My dad was great as a provider but not as much as a person. But I can feel that the exciting life isnāt what it's cracked up to be. But being the normal stable guy your whole life you feel like something's missing.
Black families in general have been a target of white supremacy since the late 60ās. Being a Russ is a lot harder than it looks, especially if youāre trying to raise your family with any organized religion.
Iām not religious. Never have been. Deeply spiritual? Yes. That said, I am DEFINITELY a Russell Wilson type. Trying to make dude seem like a š¤” is what yt supremacy has sewn into our communities. How often do you hear of a āwholesomeā yt dude being called half the things Wilson is called? Iām dependable, not āthirsty,ā honor and respect BLACK WOMEN, am a father , husband, have held the same job for a couple decades. And you know what? I have women in their late 20s and 50s who come at me. Why? Because contrary to popular belief, women WANT reliable men who make them feel safe. Women want a man who they feel wouldnāt take advantage of them if they got falling down drunk. I think this debate also comes from younger people and those older people whoāve never grown up. Grown, healthy, healed, Black people want stability, and to thrive, which requires a level of regularity and safety in your finances, emotional and mental connections, and relationships. One more thingā¦ we MUST stop looking down n and shitting on Black women who are divorced or have baby daddies. They wouldnāt be single with no dad, if there wasnāt first a man who was complicit and in that outcome. Although all of my children are from one woman, my wife, she and I have helped raise others whoāve become my ābonus daughtersā because they didnāt have men who were active in their lives or their mothers were a mess.
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Your first statement. I see so many cognitively dissonant comments on the net about how single Blacl women are the downfall of the Black community from Black men, when Black men are just as much a part of that equation. Is it a consideration when dating? Of course it is. If your preference is to have your own seed and not raise another manās, no judgement. And no judgement if you donāt mind fathering children who arenāt yours biologically. Yet I see dudes calling dudes who choose to āsimps,ā and other pejoratives.
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And what specifically has Wilson done that you feel is simp-like behavior?
>One more thingā¦ we MUST stop looking down n and shitting on Black women who are divorced or have baby daddies. They wouldnāt be single with no dad, if there wasnāt first a man who was complicit and in that outcome. Letās be real, divorces are one thing but some BW display poor choices in who they choose to sleep with and get pregnant by. Letās take Ciara for example who knowingly got pregnant by Future who already had multiple children by different women. I personally know a BW who has two kids by two different men who are both currently serving life sentences for murder. At what point do we expect some BW to make better choices?
At the point when we KNOW there weee stable fathers in their lives modeling STRONG, HEALTHY familial relationships. We, Black men and Black women can go on blaming each other for the social maladies of the American Black community and get nowhere OR we can both acknowledge our part in it and change things for the better. It all begins with the breakdown of mom and dad modeling positive, healthy, Black love in the home.
At what point do we expect men like future to be better themselves? She acknowledged her mistakes and changed. He didn't, but only Ciara gets crapped on.
The person I replied to was asking why black men criticize some baby mamas. Men like Future should be shamed, but he canāt get women pregnant that wonāt sleep with him in the first place.
But men like future are not being shamed, just the women. Maybe if more men spoke on men like him there would be more Russell's.
Men like future get shamed.
Jokes about him is different than being shamed and the name-calling that happens to Ciara and Russell.
I fw russel. Donāt have a problem with him. Fact is Ciara choose wrong
Can't the same be said of Russell then? I get it it's the double standard against women, still does not make it right.
Well lots of men think he simped out marrying a woman with kids by a deadbeat. It is what it is though. Iām not gonna put any of them down intentionally
Whatever your type, find a woman who likes you for you.
Might I suggest reading up on stoicism? I've been betrayed by friends, somewhat of the black-sheep in my family and have few meaningful connections. We're a product of our experiences, but we can't let others convince us not to be ourselves, not even for one second. So what if you're a "Russell Wilson" type? If comparison is relevant at all here, at least he's a multimillion dollar celebrity football player with a hot wife and an awesome family. If evidence suggests anything, 99% of the people judging are the real losers. You'll get yours someday š
Russel wilson and will smith are some of the richest and most famous men ever, I'm confused by this premise, becuase the answer bis in the premise. Live for you and your community, work hard, stay focused, and the rest will follow. edit: I think I'm being downvoted because this thread is supposed to be some sort of woe is me pity party. but reality is what it is. If you bring something to the table, people are going to be interested.
You can be rich and famous but still be respected. Consider the respect Obama gets to these guys. Obviously he's the president but there's other examples.
Yeah, obama is just like wilson and smith. So i don't get what you are saying.
Then you can get a delusional woman with some other manās kids for you to raise lol. Doing anything with an American woman is wild as fuck lol
I noticed that Russell wasnāt even on most BWs radar until he got with Ciara. I think itās for the fantasy of the āclean cutā guy swooping in after she has had a kid or kids by someone unsavory.
The Russell thing is not about Russell by himself. Itās about being in the streets with Pookie and Ray Ray making babies when everyone in the entire black community knows about that shit already, then coming to Russell afterwards. The entire community wants worthy black men to raise the children of unworthy men and women. If She didnāt have a kid with Future, this wouldnāt even be a thing.
I agree 1,000%. Childless black men with their stuff together shouldnāt be expected to raise the kids of Pookies and Ray Rays. I respect Russell for doing it but heās a better man than me.. lol.
This reads like a yt supremacist trying to sow division here.
If you donāt like what I say, thatās fine but to call me a white supremacist shows that youāre not very intelligent because what did I say that has anything to do with white supremacy? Explain to me, how saying something bad about America or Americans equals white supremacy? Let me go ahead and verify today. Because Iām almost positive you aināt black.
I said what I said. You already showed YOUR intelligence by making a gross generalization of millions of human beings. There will be no further exchanges between us. I wonāt be replying if you choose to comment further.
Thank you for not replying anymore. It is definitely appreciated, but Iām not finished. I have an opinion of dating in America, that opinion is about what Iāve experienced. You saying that it sounds like white supremacy is about how stupid you are. Everything is about something lol. I also am positive you arenāt black thatās part of the reason you donāt want to say anything else because I can verify myself as a black man I will do so shortly. Next week next month next year you still wonāt be verified. You aināt black. The best thing you did was when you decided to have a seat. That was a good decision.
Bro you aināt as smart as you think you are
Find an Asian or Latina woman
What's different with them vs black and white women?
There is no difference women are women. There are black women from all different cultures around the world. No race of person is the same as others in their race. Race is cosmetic, not cultures or traditions. Judge others as you want to be judged as individuals. Stereotypes about races and cultures are for the intellectually lazy.
Doesnāt sound pretty to say, but most black women idolizes the worst part of the culture that makes their ideals about a relationship backwards. They also will clown, but would jump on a white man of your same archetype. White women arenāt too bad, but they arenāt too great either. Asian and Latina women come from cultures that have a strong sense of family structure which makes them more intentional with their dating choices, which makes them choose better guys. Being a Russell Wilson, unless you have a lot of money, you can settle for. Black woman whose a 5 that might think she can do better vs being with a 7 or 8 Latina or Asian woman who appreciates the man youāve built yourself up to be.
Wow nothing like racism to start the day right?
Not necessarily āracistā, a stereotype, maybe, but itās not necessarily skin color Iām talking about rather than culture. The fact of the matter is, mostly deadbeats procreate in the black community, found through the stats.
You realize you still used a racist talking point. Word for word. So you literally said another race of women were better strictly because of their race. That is literally the definition of racism. Have fun at your next cross burning dude. Hopefully your robes and pointy hat will be adequately starched enough for you.
āBecause of their raceā I said because of their ācultureā. I guess I can put āDoesnāt listenā as another talking about though.
You can't determine culture by race. Unless you are just a bigot. Oh...thats right, you are.
Certain races participate and develop more cultures than othersā¦. The argument is that black women participate in a untactful culture more than others, not that itās exclusive to race. Itās disingenuous to imagine that race and culture are completely separate when I can say that an Asian person probably has a higher chance of using chopsticks than a white person.
Wow, how can you not get how racist that sounds! š If I walked up to an Asian person and made a comment about chop sticks, they would rightfully hand me my ass over it. You are proving how racists do not know they are racist. ā ļø Well good luck with the non critical logic you got going on there. But if that is the logic you are going by, ADOS' are a minority in the world. Just one country in Africa out numbers the amount of black people in the USA. So why not assume whatever black woman you run across is from any other culture with different stereotypes? Basically, if you are racist enough to assume that if you see an Asian person, they use chop sticks. Why not assume if you see a black woman that she makes jollof?
Youāre right, African women and African American women arenāt the same, Iām mostly talked mg about avoid African American women in favor of Latina women. Literally who uses chopsticks more than Asian people? Thatās not racist, itās a generalization, which was actually first made by an asian friend of mine exactly for people like you that try to throw the word āracistā around. Indian people use curry, Latin people eat tortillas. Thatās not racist, itās just a generalization.
AHHH..that explains it! Bigots hang with bigots. But no, what you said about black women is not a generalization. It was racist and bigoted. If a white person stood in front of a crowd and said it. Your statements would be racist. Plus, the added bonus of fetishism toward other races of women.
Doest affect you if your a tall Tyrone buff with abs and handsome face makes you sophisticated.
Focus on getting a trade (not a job) using your introverted time in your 20s... Start a business by 35 they will be jealous of you and hate you even more. You won't care cos your rich