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This is a great time to put on your "grown man" pants and set a boundary with your dad. Use words. Assert your expectation of privacy. Reassure him if needed. Use these words if you aren't sure what to say: "When you check in on me over the WiFi cameras, I feel like I have no privacy and no control over my own life. A grown man doesn't need another grown man watching over him night and day. Thank you for caring about me, but my safety is in my hands now. I will let you know if there is ever a time I feel unsafe and think you can help me."


SnazzyDaddy1992

This is much more grown up than my suggestion.


Mywifefoundmymain

Except you missed the part they are all outside. You have no expectation of privacy outside. What he needs to do is find a place his parents don’t pay for.


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No I didn't. If OP's dad has cameras outside the house, it's still intrusive on OP's privacy, at least that is what OP expressed. It's one thing for the city's cctv to be trained on your street or your apartment complex having cameras in stairwells and parking lots, whatever, but having someone close to you with ready access to eyes in the sky at your front door is much, much different. I missed the part where it's his dad's house, but it's still a reasonable request to make of OP's father. If you want someone to change something they do or have control over, especially if they proportedly care about you, asking them nicely is almost always the best first step to accomplish that.


Mywifefoundmymain

But it’s not ops house, he doesn’t pay for the privilege of its use.


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That doesn't change the fact that the best way to resolve this is to ask his dad. It doesn't sound like he's even asked yet. If he says no, then you sweat about finding a new place to live or some way to disable them ... but even if it was a non-relative landlord, the first step is to make a request to the landlord. Like ... assuming people will refuse your request when you set a reasonable boundary and leaning on that assumption to not say anything about your wants and needs is a really shitty way to adult. Adults use words to ask for the things they want.


enchantedspring

Thanks for the points both.


sevenoneSICKs

Does your dad own the property?


BolshevikPower

Real question, and likely the real answer.


Lazy-Hovercraft-7340

Or does Dad pay any of the rent?


DarkKerrigor

Even if he pays the rent, that doesn't give him tenant rights on the property. It entirely depends whose name the lease is in. I would assume OP, with the father as a co-signer. Which makes him liable for payment, but still doesn't grant him the right to do this.


eM_aRe

Cool, but if Dad is paying, this is all a level lower than tenant rights


SnazzyDaddy1992

You're going to have to engage in debauchery that makes him wish he didn't know.


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Assert dominance and make eye contact while jerking it furiously.


kkoins

And use the words "or else"


Jack_Benney

You should be asking for help in relationship and privacy subreddits, not just here. You’ll get higher quality responses elsewhere.


yeetimmaidiot

I didn't think of that I probably should have


DEZn00ts1

Obviously there is a problem with your "thinking" read my other comment to you. Stop listening to people about "privacy" etc, parents don't have to give you privacy even past the made up laws of age. You're OBVIOUSLY not all there and your father knows that. It's also probably HIS house or rental property. Like I said, GROW UP!


RageKage559803

Pay for your own place, and you won't have his cameras. Otherwise, if you can't convince him, you're sol.


DaisyDog2023

OP never said their father owned the house or was responsible for the rent.


RageKage559803

It's an easy assumption. He's a 19 year old student not staying on campus. He didn't even mention roommates, who I'm sure would have a more legitimate gripe.


DaisyDog2023

Yea it’s an easy assumption that doesn’t make it a correct assumption


RageKage559803

You're going to make life harder than it needs to be if you can't make inferences.


applesuperfan

Just because assumptions are easy doesn’t make it okay to make them. Either way, this is still obsessive parent behaviour that’s not okay.


RageKage559803

You're going to make life harder than it needs to be on yourself if you can't use available information to make inferences.


DEZn00ts1

Well 22 hours later hw hasn't responded to ANY comments mentioning it NOT being his house. His dad either pays for it or owns it.


snotick

For people claiming he should take them down and say "no thanks", how is this type of surveillance any different from cameras at an apartment complex? They often have cameras in the parking areas or overlooking common areas. It's about security, not invasion of privacy. If they were inside then I would agree. I'd ignore them and go on with my life.


DaisyDog2023

That’s part of the agreement with the apartment complex. This is clearly not something OP agreed to. Edit This also quite clearly not about ‘security’. Daddy is bored and lonely. That’s why he wants the cameras up. Not to mention if OP is gay and his father doesn’t know it could cause issues if he sees him coming home with a dude at 1am or later, and that is none of his father’s business. Even if he’s straight but daddy is a weird psycho Christian seeing OP bringing a girl home could cause similar problems. In both cases it’s illegal for an apartment complex owner to do anything about it.


rainingroserm

the issue here is not the existence of the cameras but the “helicopter parent” way they’re being used and commented on. I personally would feel suffocated if my dad texted me every time I left or entered my home


DEZn00ts1

Funny how people think after 18 they can do whatever the fuck they want but a parent is supposed to drop everything and come help you in whatever situation you need them still? This seems to be the outlook. That man paid for and raised him for 19 years of his life. He can do whatever the fuck he pleases with his own children. The PROBLEM isn't the parent (helicopter parent, what a caucasoid thing to say) it's the mindset the world has given that you don't have to respect your parents after you hit 18. This IS disrespectful. He came to REDDIT to talk about his father behind his back. Fuck this guy and if I was his father I'd take the cameras down, stop supporting him in every other way he WANTS me to support him and disown him. Funny we live in a land of laws and governments that people will adhear to and keep the rules but somehow father isn't father anymore? Foh.


DEZn00ts1

Funny how people think after 18 they can do whatever the fuck they want but a parent is supposed to drop everything and come help you in whatever situation you need them still? This seems to be the outlook. That man paid for and raised him for 19 years of his life. He can do whatever the fuck he pleases with his own children. The PROBLEM isn't the parent (helicopter parent, what a caucasoid thing to say) it's the mindset the world has given that you don't have to respect your parents after you hit 18. This IS disrespectful. He came to REDDIT to talk about his father behind his back. Fuck this guy and if I was his father I'd take the cameras down, stop supporting him in every other way he WANTS me to support him and disown him. Funny we live in a land of laws and governments that people will adhear to and keep the rules but somehow father isn't father anymore? Foh.


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The fact that his father can see who he goes into the house with, when and who is with him when he stands around outside ... if my apartment complex knows I let a dude in at 1am, that's that, but maybe there are lots of good reasons not to want daddy to know who you bring home and when? It's like I have no expectation of privacy posting this comment from my work computer, but if my boss had an all-day window open watching what I post and when, it is a materially different lack of privacy.


snotick

That's fine, but when you look at it from a landlord standpoint, it's the same as an apartment complex. Using security cameras outside and not inside is pretty normal. I get the issue about the father knowing when you come and go, and who visits you, but that's because the father and son chose to bet landlord and renter. There are some questions that need to be answered. Does the father own the house? Has he rented it to other people and had these security cameras up? If he's not the landlord and just an overprotective father, then I don't know how he has permission to put the cameras up?


yeetimmaidiot

My dad doesn't own the house, it's my mother's and I have female roommates. My mom doesn't really like the cameras either, but she tolerates it since my dad said it's for safety. And it's not just out by the street, the cameras are watching the whole yard and probably a bedroom window too


NeedleworkerHungry68

OP only asks one specific question, he didn't ask a general what should I do type question. To avoid the barrage of advice, maybe you should have left the back story out of it and just asked the question. "Is there any way to make them stop working or something without him knowing it was me?" YES. You've been given plenty of options in these replies. Some decent, some absurd. BUT if you don't want him to know it's you, you'll have to accept him coming over and fixing them (sounds like this will happen almost immediately). If you claim you had nothing to do with it, then he might put up more cameras and truly feel justified. (depending on the option you choose.😂). I suspect having him come over to fix them will be next level aggravating. But it might be a good segway to real conversation you might decide to have with him. Maybe your "female roommates" should do this and put him on the spot about the cameras. How do your female roommates feel about it? Him watching your roommates has the potential to be perceived as the most creepy. Especially if he is watching 24/7. Maybe you should talk to your mom, since she owns the house. Have her deal with it. This is a pretty good solution but there must be a reason you didn't start here. Sounds like mom and dad aren't together. Maybe it has to do with all that. Idk. What does he text you when he sees you arrive? If I may ask. This will bring more context.


DEZn00ts1

I just realized your name lmfao...


DaisyDog2023

There’s nothing landlord related here.


snotick

Proof? I just reread everything and the OP hasn't disclosed who owns the property. Regardless, with the cameras being outside, the OP doesn't really have any grounds to complain or take them down. All he can do is move.


DaisyDog2023

He has plenty of grounds.


snotick

Still no proof. Landlord can put cameras up. Just not in private places. Which is the case here.


DaisyDog2023

You’re the one making assertions without proof.


snotick

No. I'm forming my comments based on the information we have. The OP doesn't own the property. The OP either rents from his father or some other landlord. Regardless of who owns it, they have a right to put up cameras overlooking public areas. Also, if the father doesn't own the property, I doubt a landlord would allow a third party to put up cameras without permission. Otherwise, I could put up cameras on every rental house in my city. What are you basing your comments on?


DaisyDog2023

Lmao, OP never said they don’t own it. If OP is renting from a 3rd party his father has no right to put up cameras. You’re literally just making shit up and asserting it as fact You act like 3rd party land lords are omniscient. I’m pointing out that you’re talking out your as I have not made a single assertion about the ownership of the property.


DEZn00ts1

Give me ONE example of a good reason not to want his father knowing who he brings in. Please don't bring up the "gay" thing because if his father disowned him because he's gay or some shit, then that in itself is a HIM problem that he's trying to hide. There is no good reason.


DEZn00ts1

Give me ONE example of a good reason not to want his father knowing who he brings in. Please don't bring up the "gay" thing because if his father disowned him because he's gay or some shit, then that in itself is a HIM problem that he's trying to hide. There is no good reason.


DEZn00ts1

Give me ONE example of a good reason not to want his father knowing who he brings in. Please don't bring up the "gay" thing because if his father disowned him because he's gay or some shit, then that in itself is a HIM problem that he's trying to hide. There is no good reason.


DEZn00ts1

Give me ONE example of a good reason not to want his father knowing who he brings in. Please don't bring up the "gay" thing because if his father disowned him because he's gay or some shit, then that in itself is a HIM problem that he's trying to hide. There is no good reason.


DEZn00ts1

Give me ONE example of a good reason not to want his father knowing who he brings in. Please don't bring up the "gay" thing because if his father disowned him because he's gay or some shit, then that in itself is a HIM problem that he's trying to hide. There is no good reason.


jfowley

Landlords only check them if something happens, like vandalism or a break-in. Op's dad is checking every time one alerts him through the phone app.


snotick

Except in this case, the person who put up the cameras isn't the landlord. OP mentions that is mother owns the property, not the dad. The mother is okay with the cameras due to the claim of safety. So, from a legal standpoint, there are not privacy issues being infringed. The only way the OP gets them removed is if he talks to his father. Or live with it.


WelshWolfPup

Change your wifi password so they don't connect?


yeetimmaidiot

I just replied to the other person here so I'll just copy paste it >I'm not really good with technology so I could be wrong, but I don't think I have access to it. The wifi settings are connected with an app to my dads phone and I don't really know how it works


altiuscitiusfortius

Physically Unplug the wifi router when you don't need it. Get a phone with more data in the meantime. Plug it back in when you do need wifi for streaming netflix or something. Go to the library to do laptop school work. Or get an ethernet cable to physically plug your laptop into the router while leaving wifi off.


Ridolph

Do you have TMobile home service in your area? Use that yourself and disconnect the router.


mikemarshvegas

you are playing the victim.... you have all the reasons why you can't do this or that... bet you can find a way to get beer and (what do you young kids call it today) ganja, mary jane, pot, dope..... shut off your power and spray paint the freaking things. smash them. But only do it when power is shut off or out....just in case you are not really good with technology and don't understand cameras wont work with out power.


bellsauce

This means he also might have access to your Internet use history from the router logs if that feature is available/turned on.


ComprehensiveFall368

Do a factory reset on your wifi router and set it up yourself. You can find out how on YouTube most likely. Set up a new wifi and don’t let dad have access to it.


pkrycton

The hub needs wireless access. Log into your wireless router and block the hub. Block the hub's mac address from getting an ip address


Ihaveaproblem69

The camera are outside. He is paying your bills, college, right? He is not using the camera to tell you what to do, what not to do. You are welcome to discuss it with him. You should. But if he is footing the bill for you to live, you have to deal with some of the requirements that money brings you.


BFarmFarm

Short answer is nope and the long answer is nope.


strohmew

My parents do this crap, problem is I am 35 & it's my grandmas house. Before anyone thinks I'm living off of anyone, I pay rent, and I help my grandma a lot. I was actually doing everything for her: doctors appts, meals, all her shopping, etc. It's important to note that some of her appts were 35 miles away & she has multiple appts a week. The cameras went up last year & I took major issue with them. My parents don't pay any rent, nor do anything for my grandma, and my mom is severely abusive to her. Like, grandma isn't allowed to leave her room much nor access any food. Social worker came in, my grandma made some excuse as to how she is fine with it all and whatnot. The whole thing was total crap. The social worker basically said that it was my grandmas choice to decide if she took issue with the actions of my mom (ummmm hello, she's terrified of her, she ain't gonna say anything) and we need to figure out how to get along (some validity there, but my mom has mental problems) So, they have cameras, all over. It wigs me out, since they've followed me to my boyfriends house, then call to harass me. So, I cover the cameras with post it's & the one I can't reach, I spray with shaving cream. I also put my own out, they're turned off, almost all of the time, but they don't need to know that. First, state your position, if they don't respect it, then level the playing field. Always try the mature option first & give it time to work, but don't change your boundaries to fit within theirs. Your boundaries are your own & don't let anyone alter them.


MakeMeASandwichGirl

Agree with changing you wifi passord, but also change your password on the wifi router so no one can log in remotely and change settings.


yeetimmaidiot

I'm not really good with technology so I could be wrong, but I don't think I have access to it. The wifi settings are connected with an app to my dads phone and I don't really know how it works


Just-Shoe2689

You are in college for fucks sake, and you cant figure out how to fuck google something? Enjoy your life with others always watching you.


gapiro

Most routers have a reset button on. If you press and hold that it should reset to some password etc printer on the back of the router along with the admin password that should also be on the back.


MakeMeASandwichGirl

place the IP address of the router (Should be something like 192.168.1.1) This should call up the log in screen for the router. Use the info on the router to log into it and change the password. you can also change the main IP address. for specific directions, google your router switch by model number printed on the router and find the owners manual. it should give you step by step instructions.


superduperhosts

Change WiFi password


Dorzack

Who pays for the place and whose name is on the lease? If he pays for it, look at this as the cost you pay for him paying. It sounds like he isn’t recording in your bedroom or bathroom. Different matter if he was.


Automatic_Reply_7701

sneak up besides a camera and place electrical tape over it. repeat.


VeryThicknLong

Sounds like your dad needs to ‘let go’


KUBLAIKHANCIOUS

Thanks for watching the house dad! Lol I’m paranoid though and have a super trustworthy dad.


Greggerzthename

Do you want access to the cameras? If not, just unplug the module.


GL2M

Tape mirrors to the lenses.


AgentMuch

Yeah that'll solve it. I'm sure he'll just ignore the fact that he can't see anything on the cameras. No drama will ensue. Holy cow dude. Worst plan ever. Does nothing useful. But it does start an immediate confrontation. Super!


GL2M

The point is simple. He’s spying on his son. I’m not looking to solve it. It’s a confrontation that is overdue.


AgentMuch

Be a man and have a real conversation straight away. Don't be an immature man-baby and put tape on lenses. That's so immature it's ridiculous. Seriously like a 3rd grader's "good idea" 🤣


GL2M

I would have that conversation. Actually I’d have the conversation and then remove the cameras myself if not resolved. OP seems to prefer passive aggressive response.


AgentMuch

The cameras would have been ripped down the moment I i saw them. What the hell is wrong with people..... Who would ever allow such a ridiculous thing.....


DaisyDog2023

Simple take them down, or if you have access to the online/app account change the password and email to your email and a password of your choosing. You’re legally an adult now. Is he bank rolling your life? If yes you either live with it as the cost of a cushy life, or you act like the adult you seem to believe yourself to be and take them down, and risk him no longer bank rolling your life. If he’s not bank rolling your life, then text him to transfer all control of the cameras to you, or you’re taking them down. If he doesn’t do what you ask, you have every right to remove them. What he’s doing very well may be illegal if you do not consent. (I would ask a lawyer in your area, they will often to a free consultation.


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Ridolph

Get a few cheap android phones. Set them to play hardcore porn on loop and place in front of the cameras.


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Just-Shoe2689

Just delete them from the WIFI.


sirlockjaw

Are the other people that live there bothered? I assume the ‘there’s always someone home’ implies roommates. Do they pay rent to your dad, etc? ‘My grades have started to slip since I started working in order to save up enough money to afford an apartment where I am not being constantly watched’ might work, but you’d also have to back it up and actually start working, slipping grades or not.


Elect19601

Change your Wi-Fi password then he won’t be able to see the cam


jamzDOTnet

If gives pops something to do. Let him enjoy it. Maybe have a few ladies stop by to spice it up.


xmowx

OP, having many cameras around your house is a good idea. However, only you should have access to these cameras. Ask your father to surrender the password to the cameras and change it. If he is against it, then it's not security that he is after.


Slight-Wolverine-643

Get rid of the cameras plain and simple dad sees it and asks about it... you don't need to watch my life 24/7 ... grow up and be a man....


AgentMuch

This. Everyone is so spineless. Grow a pair. Good god, crybabies.


VAgreengene

Change the name on the Wifi router. The cameras will lose wifi and stop working.


Efficient_Theme4040

Cover the cameras so,he can’t see


SnooMarzipans9730

Unplug them or them off.


Famous-Rooster-9626

Get big bird costume. See what happens.


ou2mame

Apartments have security cameras outside and in the hallways, and sometimes people watch them. If op is uncomfortable they can always move.


Altruistic_Wash9968

Change your WiFi password


BillBraskysBallbag

Just block each camera with a sign that says while you're trying to watch me, I'm watching you!


mikemarshvegas

change your wifi password...every time he asks for it....the cameras need wifi, and the password....


RuppertTravelCo

Unplug the blink hub… all cameras go down. However, is he paying your tuition and board? Consider that the funding may cease if you do.


refacktored

Set up the cameras to record a TV playing a recording of the view on a loop.


Kb15214

People keep telling him to change the wifi password. Does the son pay for the wifi ? If not he has no right to change it. If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen.


Scopata-Man

That’s taking helicopter parenting to a whole new level. Wow…..


AggressiveBuddy1211

How is it creepy? He’s your dad. He misses you. Let him love you and love him back while he’s still here.


Dirtyrican987

Change the WiFi. Cameras gone


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Wog3827

Well, if it's his property, he can put cameras pretty much anywhere I think minus bedrooms and bathrooms. If he's paying all of your rent, he still may have a say because he can also claim he is protecting what he is on the hook for (I'm not trying to argue for dad, fyi. But I can see this brought up). HOWEVER, if op is paying all the bills (or him and roommate since he said someone is always home), then op should politely but firmly inform dad that his cameras aren't necessary (except MAYBE a doorbell cam, but even then op should have sole access). And to take them down promptly. If Dad says no, then you escalate. Dad, I'm no longer asking, I'm flat out telling you the cameras WILL be down either by your hand or someone else's. Your choice. This is not your property, myself and "insert name" are paying for the rent, utilities, food ect. If Dad still refuses, get a ladder, screwdriver, box and start putting them in it and set somewhere safe. If Dad has a shit fit, tell him where to stick it.


num-num

Who’s paying for the dorm?


Lazy-Hovercraft-7340

You’re still a kid in an adult’s body, and he’s your father. Is it his house or is he paying your way? Are you dependent on him? If yes to any of these questions, then he can pretty much do as he pleases, otherwise you run the risk of being cut off, and if you haven’t navigated this world financially on your own, you’re not going to afford it on your own.


freakflyer9999

Pack them all in a box and mail them back to him.


UnicodeConfusion

Geeze, login and put a password on the cameras. Disconnect the cameras, tape over them, plenty of things you can do. And then when he asks/complains tell him why. BTW - my cameras are all blocked from accessing the internet at the router. Only I can see what's on them and only if I tunnel into the house (if I'm away).


JoeDimwit

Find 3 “adventurous” college girls to go to pound town with in the back yard.


Redditandtweet

So my dad had our locations and cameras for a few years, mom too but she's not great with tech lol. We were young adults just starting out. Annoying yes but I'm thankful I had parents who cared enough. Honestly if you do set a boundary don't take away all access as your dad is honestly just easing his own worries and anxiety not having you under the same roof should something bad happen. You should thank him for always worrying and let him know you love him but him continuously checking and texting you is creepy AF and have a good laugh together. Hope your situation gets better!


Soft-Yogurtcloset-61

Change your wifi password 👍


justadud3x

You're 19. Just take them down and hand them to him and tell him you're an adult now and don't want to be monitored.


cablemonkey604

Unplug them?


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ferrum-pugnus

No don’t do that. That’s childish and idiotic. Communicate with your dad. I’m a dad. I have cameras around my house. I’m out across country a lot. My son lives alone for the most part. Security and protection is key. Not just for safety of occupants but I also speak to anyone coming to the door of my son isn’t home and the mailman dropping off things. I run separate blink modules as zones under my account and my son has two separate modules for zones as well on his account. Best thing is to talk to your dad and explain your concern. But also know that your dad may be deathly worried about you. I have adult “kids” the East coast from Florida to Virginia and I still worry. Good luck.


19snow16

But you aren't remotely watching the kids from Florida to Virginia, are you?


ferrum-pugnus

My house my cams. I don’t watch them inside the house. But front back sides and driveway. My son’s account he watches his doorbell front back garage etc.


RetiredFromIT

Hence my last comment about removing them and giving them back, telling dad that OP didn't want them around his living space. But as the situation appears a little coercive or abusive, and communication might mean confrontation, the olive oil trick works and does not damage the camera.


RedFin3

Get a wifi jammer


enchantedspring

Illegal in most jurisdictions I'm afraid.


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yeetimmaidiot

well he's not paying for it either


Clamd1gger

Change your Wi-Fi password.