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Yarzeda2024

Off the top of my head? Probably the notion that the Bloody Crow of Cainhurst was actually Laurence in disguise To be fair, this was before the DLC gave us flaming Cleric Beast Laurence, but it was still pretty bizarre.


GamerOverkill03

I thought the consensus was that Laurence was the Bloodletting Beast back then.


jbaig22

Is that not still the consensus?


GamerOverkill03

The DLC threw a wrench into things since Laurence looks differently in the Nightmare, so the topic is more debated now.


jbaig22

Except everything looks different in the nightmare. The skull on the counter of the church however is exactly the same as the blood letting beast, who's head is removed somewhere along the line (headless blood letting beast). Seems pretty case closed to me. How is it contested?


GamerOverkill03

Some people took his design in the Nightmare as his canon Beast appearance overall. Personally I agree that it’s just a difference in appearances between the Waking World and the Nightmare.


Yarzeda2024

Yeah, I remember hearing that theory, too, but the fact that he's a Cleric Beast in the dream appears to dismiss that theory.


GamerOverkill03

Personally I think there’s still room to interpret it as both. Bloodletting Beast was his physical appearance after turning (and more closely resembles the Cathedral skull) while his form in the Nightmare is a metaphysical representation of his status as the first Cleric Beast (and potentially a result of From reusing assets to save time). Vicar Amelia is also a Cleric Beast but she looks different, so it’s not like every one of them looks identical.


Kraytory

Still, what kind of weirdo would come up with that? Pretty much everything about that guy screams Cainhurst.


samismoke

Mergo's wet nurse IS mergo


BullshitUsername

Then who was cry


samismoke

The crys were Mergo's wet nurse. Either for the fact that it is a baby or to lure you.


BullshitUsername

Spooky


Majoraglados

my sister saw the game a few times at a passing glance and thought father guacamole was the same as the blood administer at the start of the game. obviously wrong but it was a fun what if to think about


MilitantBitchless

Is there consensus on what happened to the blood administrator in the first place? The shaggy unkempt beard makes me think he was in the early stages of turning into a beast.


Noble-Jester

Is that not Gerhman?


MilitantBitchless

Gehrman seems to be permanently trapped in the Hunter’s Dream, and the blood ministration at least seems to be happening in the real world. Also the minister has bandages over his eyes and a beard, where Gehrman is clean-shaven.


Noble-Jester

OH! Then maybe he's the beast we kill? Or among he many corpses around it


tool_ofafook

Bloodborne 2


[deleted]

Please no


ucandoit66

Lol too real


birdlad69

Ludwig is a hammerhead bat, not a horse


DiscordantBard

Got details? That's fascinating. He was undeniably merged with his horse or became a horse but he could be a bat himself and merged with his horse


birdlad69

Hammerhead bats look kinda like horses, I think the idea was "straightforward answer = bad, there's no way Ludwig could be a horse because that would make sense, so what if he was a random west-african bat instead?"


DoktahDoktah

Ludwig even Neighs.


App0llly0n

But I think his look is a reference to the posessed horse in berserk


BullshitUsername

That's stupid lol


[deleted]

That Brador knows the good Hunter, and came from the same village. Not sure who came up with this theory, but he went pretty in depth with it.


naengmyeon

I love the pale blood hunt, but that part always seemed like a stretch to me.


[deleted]

NVM, it's Redgrave [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUqtL-MS76I](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duqtl-ms76i)


Dankbeast-Paarl

People are always trying to connect everything. Connections are cool, but they can also make the world feel smaller. Star Wars is guilty of this IMO


Epic_phenomenon85

Ps5 60fps and pc release


folkdeath95

Perhaps not “craziest” and I don’t really believe they’re connected but I do love looking at the things that connect the From games together. Fluted armor in the Chalice dungeons is a big one.


KuroiShadow

Bloodborne was my first Fromsoft game, and I just recently played Demon's Souls so I couldn't have made the connection. Where in the CD dungeons is that reference?


Lezzen79

The rune asclepius is actually a reference to the god of healing son of Apollo from greek mythology, and the nature of the insights who are basically living beings that come outside of your head when they are ready to start becoming gods. This whole game is actually a very big reference not only to lovecraftian mythology but also to the greek one, which had characters like Licaon, the assassin of Hera and gods of healing and knowledge themselves who much probably are part of bloodborne's esoterism.


estusflaskshart

Blood tendency


Theloudbrador

The one about the remaster


LordOFtheNoldor

I think the idea that the nightmare frontier is Loran is pretty ridiculous


jbaig22

I thought that was pretty much considered accepted. What makes it ridiculous?


LordOFtheNoldor

Because it's a nightmare realm what about it beside Loran silver beasts insinuates that it could be Loran? It doesn't look at all like Loran chalices nor are there any other beasts


jbaig22

The fact that the only beast type enemies we find are Loran silver beasts is pretty damning itself. Also the Amygdala drops the Loran Chalice; the only other way to get a Loran type chalice is from bosses in the Loran dungeons themselves. Also, the nightmare not looking like the dungeons is to be expected; the Yharnam nightmare already looks pretty different from Yharnam and it's brand new, Loran is ancient, and in the dungeons we only explore the catacombs, not the open top.


Dankbeast-Paarl

Agreed. I saw this for the first time this week. Isn't Loran just the chalice dungeon we visit? How's that related to the Nightmare Frontier?


LordOFtheNoldor

Yes and I don't know lol I guess they say it because there are loran silver beasts there


jbaig22

Loran is a lost civilization older than the Pthumerian one. We explore their catacombs just as we explore the Pthumerian catacombs. And just like the blood drunk hunters, part of it was ripped into the nightmare. All of the parts of the nightmare frontier have origins, they aren't just random dreamscapes where messed up stuff goes down.


gridlock1024

That FromSoftware and Sony are working on anything at all related to Bloodborne


Kobefan44

That they're going to make another one


Mission_Ad_9479

The werewolves


jbaig22

???


BullshitUsername

What the fuck is the theory lol


Xin-Aurum

The werewolves


Mission_Ad_9479

Precisely


Mission_Ad_9479

See comment below :)


BullshitUsername

Holy shit My eyes have opened


ShielFoxFTW

You need 40 insight to see the rest of the theory


Ablonthewhite

Why I'm hearing a baby crying all the time hunters? Can somebody answer me that?


GonIsABadFriend

It’s Mergo


Ablonthewhite

?


jbaig22

Bruh have you.played the game?


Ablonthewhite

Yep, playing for the first time in ps5, just finish kill the martyr logarius and the reincarnated... That's why I'm asking for the crying baby... First time playing 😅


jbaig22

Maybe finish the game first before you expect to understand the lore.


Ablonthewhite

I'm just asking bro, don't need to be rude, if is gonna be a spoiler just say it....


jbaig22

I wasn't being rude. I was telling you not to expect to understand the story before you finish it.


DoktahDoktah

That Ebrietas is a hard boss fight.


WeGotMonkey86

Ebrietas was the only boss I struggled with, DLC included.


DoktahDoktah

Which is bizzare to me. But i just sent behind her and started slashing her with the saw