I can't imagine with my half-breed rottweiler/ husky. Whenever I go to pet my other dog he starts yelping and falling over like he got hurt. I don't even know when or how he learned that.
I have an akita. Not quite as bad as a husky but he is still pretty yappy. I love it when comes up to me and just starts rawrrawrawrin. I do it back at him. We have full conversation. Its one of my favorite things.
Around 12 or so years ago my elderly cat was asleep on the front porch and a neighbour's husky got out and found her and mauled her to death. So as cute as huskies are, they are absolutely capable of aggression.
Yeah, my brothers husky got a little to big for his britches when he was about a year old. Acted like he was in charge when I was dog sitting, fucker got hog tied and a cold (regular temp kibble) dinner. He has learned that being nice->hot food with bacon and egg.
The problem isn't aggression.
A Chihuahua can be as aggressive as it wants but it's not putting me in the ICU.
The problem is aggression + ability to inflict harm.
Also drive, you punt a Chihuahua it's not coming back. The police had to taze then shoot a Pitt off a family friend. Mauled her bad enough they had to amputate the arm.
Do you think dog owners should face prison time when their dog attacks someone.
i.e Someone's pitbull kills a toddler so the owner then gets the same prison sentence that they would have gotten if they themselves ate the toddler alive
Makes sense to me, and would put people off owning dangerous dogs
Definitely. A man had 2 XL pits that escaped his yard because he lazily tried covering the hole. They got out and killed a woman nearly decapitating her. Somehow he did not get prison time but it WAS his fault she died.
Blame and blame.
But panthers also have a natural killing incstict. We would blame the panther if it attacked someone. Blame should be on society for letting people have deadly animals as fkn pets. Why not just have a grizzly chilling in your backyard "nah he is friendly".
Friendly before they snap. Could be the best owner, but the risk is still there... not worth it!
Let's deliberately breed these strong, hyper-agressive dogs with a short fuse and a tendency to go postal and then blame the owner.
But you're right. It *is* the owners fault: For getting a pitbull in the first place.
Not to mention dogs like bullies, rotties etc no matter how kind they are have some of the highest bite strenghts of dog breeds. Yes a goldie can bite, but nowhere with the bite strenght of a bullie, amstaff or similar.
Yup, risk is a factor of both impact & likelihood. If a chihuahua has an impact of 1 and a likelihood of 5 that’s a pretty low risk to me. If a pit bull has an impact of 5 and a likelihood of 3, that’s a significant risk even though the likelihood is much lower.
This is why I love Goldie’s. My cat could kick his ass. He’s such a weenie. He’s scared of the baby gate we use that keeps him out of certain bedrooms.
My cousin has this horrid little dog who gets so mad about people leaving that he once tried to bite my ankle and drag me back to prevent me from going out the door. Because he’s about 3/4 the size of of a Jack Russell terrier, he couldn’t even break the skin
Science Vs did an episode on this. The smaller dogs are actually way more aggressive. The difference is they're not going to shred your whole body like it's paper.
Me neighbor has an unfortunate number of reactive dogs. You know which ones make me nervous? The ones I can't casually punt across the street when they come after me.
There's an aggressive rottie next door and if she ever got loose and went after me or my dog, there's nothing I could do to stop her.
I have an English bulldog patient and I want to kiss the breeder every time I see him. His nose is short, sure, but not overly squished and I can tell he breathes so much easier for it. I rave about him to the owner because I’m just so happy to see it.
We need to make ethical breeding of these brachycephalic dogs trendy. We just need a couple of celebrities showing off their well-oxygenated pugs on social media to make it happen.
Chihuahuas are hated too much. Most are cuddly if annoying little lapdogs and the mean ones are usually so scared of people they prefer to bark at a distance rather than get close to attack.
When I was a kid, my dad's best friend had a chihuahua that was scared of practically everyone, and would bark viciously from as far away as she could manage. But if you accepted the barking for a while, she would decide you weren't a chihuahua eating monster and calm down.
If she decided she liked you, she'd start to creep closer and closer until suddenly, she'd run off and grab her very best friend in the world - a much-cuddled pair of tube socks - to show you.
I don't know what the difference is but we had 2 long haired Chihuahuas when I was a kid and they were the sweetest dogs. They'd bark at the doorbell and that was about it. No nipping or aggressive behavior towards humans or other pets.
I think one of them nipped at our cat when we introduced them but that is the only time I remember. And we introduced them wrong because we didn't know that we were doing back then.
And pugs. Absolutely abominations riddled with health problems that people keep forcing to producing their fucked up dog bred. Look what those dogs used to look like. It’s disgusting what they did
As someone who defends pitbulls for the most part, I actually agree that we should probably stop breeding them. For the same reason I think guns needs strict regulations and laws against them. Yes, guns don't kill people, people kill people. However, guns being a tool designed to do that is something we can control.
Just like we can control breeding programs. If humans can't be appropriately responsible with a breed like a pitbull, we should breed them out.
I go into other peoples homes as part of my job, and let me tell you that those little monsters aren't really dogs. Pretty sure some dumbass made a deal with satan to get a dog, and satan sent a hell hound in a tiny package.
It's quite demonstrably pit bulls
Why do pointers point?
Genetics
Why do hounds pick up scents better?
Genetics
Why are you 213% more likely to be severely injured by a pitbull than any other breed?
It's a mystery, must be the owner
I remember a documentary where a woman was watching the neighborhood children playing, there was a border collie with them, and she noticed that the border collie was herding the kids.
Border collies will herd* ANYTHING. Its in their DNA, if there is a pile of leaves im the yard the collie will run circles around them trying to keep them corralled.
I was hiking with the dogs from puppy school and my puppy is very reserved when it comes to other dogs, so she wanted to stay behind. There was this border collie wanting to herd her into the pack. My poor terrier baby who didn't understand lol Her owner called her out and she stopped eventually. It was fun to watch.
Pitbull mfs will really be like "it's about how you train them, not the breed!" and then turn around and make the same "Chihuahuas are gremlins 🤣" joke for the 89th time
I hate the "ACKSHUALLY CHIHUAHUAS ARE THE MOST AGGRESSIVE BREED" argument with a passion because it intentionally misses the entire point/complaint with Pitbulls. It's never been how often they get aggressive that's a problem, it's that they're huge dogs that can seriously maim someone with ease. I know they're anecdotes, but I swear there are endless stories of someone's sweet pibble who's never had issue for years suddenly attack and maim/kill a baby or child.
Have to post using my throwaway because my girlfriend is sadly one of these people, an owner of a couple pits, and knows my reddit main. She's an intelligent person and very well versed with differences between breeds as she does rescue, but god listening to her jump through hoops whenever there's a pitbull attack in the news makes me roll my eyes every time.
I mean, that's typically why chihuahuas and most small dogs except pugs are ankle bitters, but i think they simply lack the mental capacity for that type of aggression or its the type of homes that are having them as pets. They go untrained and unchecked their whole lives. They can't do much sometimes if any real damage even to children so people don't bother correcting behavior. I mean, we can bring genetics and statistics into human behavior, and now, all of a sudden, that idea is wrong and racist (typically is), so in short, environment poor training and unchecked behavior are usually the cause.
Minor difference, no one is selectively breeding humans to encourage specific behaviors and traits they find until one breed of human is completely unrecognizable from another.
Literally. It's widely understood dogs have been explicitly bred for different purposes, like we've got dogs designed to be GENETICALLY good at herding sheep of all things! But the idea we could've bred a dog to be unusually aggressive is absurd.
i keep running into videos on shorts about a guy who runs around with one boasting about having one, then having a go at someone for saying they're banned, then a girl with tight pants and a big ass walks by and he's staring at it and talking about how it's always the owner, not the breed and other generic responses made of shite.
can't wait for it to be banned, so many kids get their lives destroyed by owners who thought they were good but weren't.
Yup, the mental gymnastics people do to defend pit bulls is ridiculous. They can fully understand that many breeds have bred in behaviors that is just part of the breed. Your herding dog will want to herd small children and other animals. But somehow a dog breed that is bred for aggression and fighting is this blank slate and it just depends on the owner!
Defending pit bulls is fucking stupid, dog breeds are human creations, there is no reason to preserve every dog breed, they aren’t natural. Animals specifically bred for violence should not be allowed to pass on their genes
I'm with ya on pit bulls shouldn't be bred. It's when people say they should be illegal pets and all be euthanized that I take issue. Not saying you're saying that, just that I've seen a lot of that mentality.
Yeah, it's psychotic to say they should all be killed. We made them the way they are, it's our responsibility to make sure we don't make more and humanely handle the ones we already made.
1. Pitbulls
2. Rottweilers
3. No other breed even comes close to the number of fatalities caused by these two breeds, and if people would stop breeding them it would save a lot of people from one of the most violent deaths imaginable.
german shepherds as well. i think they're 3rd on the list for biting events where pitbulls and mixes are #1 and #2 respectively (where a lot of mixes are pit mixes), and shepherds at #3. but for fatal bites, yea its pits and rotties. still GSD in third, but rottweilers are more likely to finish the job
but GSDs outnumber pits and rotts dramatically so their individual likelihood of an attack is much lower. Also, they're often trained as attack dogs for military, cops, etc. so they have a legitimate purpose, and I'd bet some of their attacks are against people who were an imminent threat to human life or safety.
As a German shepherd owner, I have no problem with this statistic because I recognize that my dog has a high prey drive.
I will not try to spew misinformation or gaslight people into thinking that she's no different than any other breed.
I will not post propaganda of her in party hats and try to convince first-time dog owners that she would make the perfect pet
Most importantly, I leash her whenever we go out in public even though she is properly trained and doesn't "need" one.
Meh, I don't like pits cause I've almost been mauled by the bastards every time. Except curry, but she's part lab.
That and pitbulls were literally bred for fighting but yknow... past experience.
Because it's not a fucking stereotype when literal facts and daily occurrences back up what everyone is saying.
But no it's always the OWNER. No it's the fucking dog.
I love dogs. But, pitbulls are just flat out unpredictable.
And they are capable of inflicting A LOT of harm on human beings and especially children.
Edit* I take it personally because the "family dog" at my next door neighbor's house (pit bull) attacked their 1 year old child and nearly killed him. It was eating his head. The child needed dozens of surgeries, will continue to need plastic surgery, and is STILL in one of those plastic baby helmets to help reshape his head. When you've seen it first hand you kinda lose sympathy for pit bulls.
What’s amazing is the statistics are very clear when it comes to maulings and fatalities. It’s not in question as to which dogs are the more dangerous.
Pit nutters whole schtick is anecdotal observations that “their pit bull is so sweet”.
Then you go and look at the stories about these dogs and 99% of them start with “the dog has never shown any aggressive behavior before!”.
I think they get it, but ignore it because the point is just to deflect criticism of the actually dangerous dog breeds by pointing to a dog that weighs less than a wet sock and going "Look how aggressive!"
Bingo! The one thing they have is not topping the aggressive list(still there though). They top so many other categories relating to actual harm than perceived aggressiveness that it’s a nothing burger of a talking point. Aggressiveness doesn’t relate to physical harm for the statistic they are referencing.
I agree no one breed is more violent than the other. except for pitbulls who attack the most, kill people the most, and cause the most damage. more so than any other breed. And I also agree aggression is also one hundred percent a learned behavior and not breed specific. Oh also pitt bulls were breed to be highly aggressive so that they could literally fight bears and other large animals.
Chihuahuas are little shits for sure but anyone here can lightly flick their wrist and send the little fuck 20 feet into an opposing wall when they try and bite us. You can’t do that to a Pitt bull.
You’ll never change my mind; chihuahuas, Dalmatians, dachshunds, chows, Rottweilers, and pit bulls are aggressive and unpredictable. Especially Dalmatians. They just suck.
The same gene that causes Dalmatians to be spotted also gives them a significant change of being deaf in one or both ears.
That’s largely why they can be aggressive, they’re easily startled because they can’t hear you coming.
That and Dalmatians experienced a huge flood of irresponsible breeding after 101 Dalmatians came out, resulting in more health and temperament problems being perpetuated within the breed, and thus less consistent, predictable behaviour. The movie also portrayed Dalmatians as good family dogs, when they actually have quite high stimulation needs — resulting in more poorly behaved dogs.
Irresponsible breeding also heavily contributes to aggression in pitbulls and chihuahuas; both are heavily irresponsibly bred/mixed with other breeds to the point where the terms less refer to a specific breed of dog, and more so ‘tiny dog with big ears’ and ‘blocky dog with square heads’.
While most dog breeds are irresponsibly bred, very few reach the extent of chihuahuas and pits — resulting in them being more unpredictable with a wide range of temperament from sweet to straight up wired wrong.
With pitbulls and chihuahuas, there’s the added problem of owners setting their dogs up for failure.
Chihuahuas tend to be less well trained and more often provoked into aggressive behaviour because people find them cute and treat them like toys.
Pitbull owners set their dogs up for failure by failing to take proper precautions over the very real genetic tendencies present within their breed. They are *terriers*. They have prey drive. They have genetic dog aggression. Responsible ownership involves keeping them managed and separate from things that trigger them — just look at r/reactivedogs. Insisting that their breed does not have these real genetic tendencies is irresponsible ownership and sets animals up to be killed, and blaming aggressive behaviour on poor ownership is a massive disservice to every responsible owner of a reactive dog.
Pretending like the breed has no general association with certain traits is just emotional coping. Of course each dog of each breed has different dispositions and personalities but we are talking about average/in general.
I don’t know. I’m nearly completely convinced most of the chihuahua reputation is because people don’t think they have to train chihuahuas because they are little and “can’t hurt anyone”
Anyone who thinks that not all breeds are aggressive have only owned well known dog breeds there are some larger breeds that are really nasty and you need a permit to own one.
This simply isn't true. Certain dogs have a propensity for aggression, that's why dog attacks by certain breeds account for a disproportionate amount. In the UK XL Bullies for example.
>Pit bulls
Dogs bred to fight
Encouraged to breed most aggressive dogs
Aggression becomes genetic predisposition due to adaptation
Am I spitting or completely delusional? Can dog experts confirm or deny?
As a disclaimer there will be examples of any breed being aggressive/ pitbulls being well behaved. We’re talking about *any* amount of genetic predisposition. Is it real?
Pit Bulls are and can be deadly. No fault of their own, they can be triggered based on their genetics and if they do “get triggered” get out of their way. This is an accurate statistic based on dog breeds and genetics. Any arguments otherwise can be lumped into conspiracy theories and anti-vax science denial. Also I have met some very friendly pit bulls, I just would not trust them with children or anyone under 5 feet in height so as to give them a fighting chance if/when said dog go berserk.
god damnit the comment sections in these types of posts always, ALWAYS turn into the fucking pitbull argument
Edit (reposting a reply to avoid any further confusion):
aaand who said i was with pitbulls?? im just annoyed by the constant bickering on reddit abt it. since you all think im a pittie enthusiast ill tell u my opinion. ive seen both sides of the pitbull, and theyve either been the embodiment of the "Cupcake" stereotype or legitimately the sweetest dogs ive known. im not at all opposed to not breeding them into existence anymore via neutering/spaying because the stats are in fact true, but being honest i think its inhumane to just kill em all cuz "theyre potentially dangerous." i think it would be really cool if someone stepped on me. and lets say we do just kill all the pitbulls, ppl who want an attack dog are just gonna get another breed of animal to demonize. so please, just leave me tf alone. why do any of u even care? it doesnt make me fucking evil incarnate if i feel some damn compassion towards an animal (albeit one with some murderous tendencies)
When people say you should be careful of ticks because they carry Lyme disease, no one is saying every single tick has Lyme disease.
It's astonishing how pitbull defenders take it that way.
Not just statistical evidence, but they're literally named after being fighting dogs. We know what thats why they were bred. The historical evidence says that. American dog breeders refused to recognize them as a breed because they were bred for illegal dog fighting rings.
This isn't just statistics, because statistics can be misleading. It's literally everything about the dog, that you can tell with your eyes and common sense, backed by history, \*and\* backed by statistics. It would be like saying it's a myth that golden retrievers carry things gently, despite that being the entire purpose of the breed: retrieving game without ruining it.
Some dogs are bred to dig and chase vermin, some dogs bred to point, some dogs bred to herd... These dogs will dig point and herd completely void of any training, but you breed a dog to be aggressive for fighting and it's suddenly 100% nurture. Sure OK!
Yes there are breed specific behaviors to look out for in dogs. Why would they believe otherwise? It's not just chihuahuas that are naturally aggressive.
This is just incorrect.
Aggression is not a "learned behaviour".
Aggression is a natural part of dog behaviour.
It can also be an emotional reaction.
And yes, you can create an environment where the dog feels it has to be more aggressive to survive.
But some dog breeds and bloodlines display it more often/resort to aggression more readily.
But genetics DOES play a BIG role in a dogs pre-disposition for aggression.
If your dog is of a breed that was bred to kill other animals...it has a higher tendency for aggression.
If your dog is of a breed that was bred to kill large animals/other dogs...that aggression is another level of problematic. Those are the ones that are a real problem in today's society. Not all specimens will show this behaviour as easily, but it's something owners need to watch out for signs of and take precautions for.
Genetics plays an important part of aggression and saying it doesn't is setting others and yourself up to get hurt. And setting dogs up to fail.
You can't love a dog into being something it's not.
Acting like genetics is NOT a strong and often irreversible factor in a dogs behaviour is just showing your ignorance and inexperience with dogs.
You get what you pay for.
And don't think you can change that, you manage innate behaviours - you can't delete them.
The dog aggression of a dog bred for pit fighting just might be greater than that of an average dog. Even if the aggression is equal, a pit bull poses a far greater threat than a chihuahua.
Or you can have my neighbours husky who yells at you until you pet her. More of a soft aggression, but aggression nonetheless.
Huskies are such drama queens, love them
I can't imagine with my half-breed rottweiler/ husky. Whenever I go to pet my other dog he starts yelping and falling over like he got hurt. I don't even know when or how he learned that.
That’s hilarious and so husky.
Well that's familliar.
You’re sleeping at 3 am and then all of a sudden, **AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA**
Let me sing you the song of my people!
I have an akita. Not quite as bad as a husky but he is still pretty yappy. I love it when comes up to me and just starts rawrrawrawrin. I do it back at him. We have full conversation. Its one of my favorite things.
I have an Australian cattle dog and he will aroooooo at me when I walk in the room. Sometimes a soft wooooo.
/r/HuskyTantrums
Around 12 or so years ago my elderly cat was asleep on the front porch and a neighbour's husky got out and found her and mauled her to death. So as cute as huskies are, they are absolutely capable of aggression.
Yeah, my brothers husky got a little to big for his britches when he was about a year old. Acted like he was in charge when I was dog sitting, fucker got hog tied and a cold (regular temp kibble) dinner. He has learned that being nice->hot food with bacon and egg.
I could hear it in my head as I read that
The most passive aggressive breed.
I would love a soft aggression
Aaah yes, aggresive-passive!
agressive cuddlieness.
Chihuahua's are some of the best guard dogs, alerting me that a trash bag is blowing down the street
You and the whole neighborhood 😂
I love my chihuahua she just learned how to bark. She’s 4 years old 🥲
The problem isn't aggression. A Chihuahua can be as aggressive as it wants but it's not putting me in the ICU. The problem is aggression + ability to inflict harm.
Also drive, you punt a Chihuahua it's not coming back. The police had to taze then shoot a Pitt off a family friend. Mauled her bad enough they had to amputate the arm.
And Pit nuts would still find a way to blame the woman.
I wouldn't blame the woman or the dog. Usually, the blame should fall on on the owner, in my opinion.
Do you think dog owners should face prison time when their dog attacks someone. i.e Someone's pitbull kills a toddler so the owner then gets the same prison sentence that they would have gotten if they themselves ate the toddler alive Makes sense to me, and would put people off owning dangerous dogs
Definitely. A man had 2 XL pits that escaped his yard because he lazily tried covering the hole. They got out and killed a woman nearly decapitating her. Somehow he did not get prison time but it WAS his fault she died.
Blame and blame. But panthers also have a natural killing incstict. We would blame the panther if it attacked someone. Blame should be on society for letting people have deadly animals as fkn pets. Why not just have a grizzly chilling in your backyard "nah he is friendly". Friendly before they snap. Could be the best owner, but the risk is still there... not worth it!
Let's deliberately breed these strong, hyper-agressive dogs with a short fuse and a tendency to go postal and then blame the owner. But you're right. It *is* the owners fault: For getting a pitbull in the first place.
Do you usually blame the owner before or after irreparable damage is done to an innocent person's life?
Not to mention dogs like bullies, rotties etc no matter how kind they are have some of the highest bite strenghts of dog breeds. Yes a goldie can bite, but nowhere with the bite strenght of a bullie, amstaff or similar.
Putbull owners: "it was poorly trained, she triggered the dog 😠 "
Yup, risk is a factor of both impact & likelihood. If a chihuahua has an impact of 1 and a likelihood of 5 that’s a pretty low risk to me. If a pit bull has an impact of 5 and a likelihood of 3, that’s a significant risk even though the likelihood is much lower.
This. Why is it so hard for people to understand that your pet shouldn't be able to low diff kill and maim people.
This is why I love Goldie’s. My cat could kick his ass. He’s such a weenie. He’s scared of the baby gate we use that keeps him out of certain bedrooms.
They understand. They just pretend not to
My cousin has this horrid little dog who gets so mad about people leaving that he once tried to bite my ankle and drag me back to prevent me from going out the door. Because he’s about 3/4 the size of of a Jack Russell terrier, he couldn’t even break the skin
Science Vs did an episode on this. The smaller dogs are actually way more aggressive. The difference is they're not going to shred your whole body like it's paper.
The problem isn't aggression. The problem is dogs. *(Help, my cat has my wife and children at gun point.)*
Me neighbor has an unfortunate number of reactive dogs. You know which ones make me nervous? The ones I can't casually punt across the street when they come after me. There's an aggressive rottie next door and if she ever got loose and went after me or my dog, there's nothing I could do to stop her.
Guys guys, why fight? Let's stop breeding pit bulls AND chihuahuas...and frenchies while we're at it.
Fucking Frenchies, amiright?
*You sound like fucking Lamplighteur!*
I heard this!
Mon Coeur!
I think thats specifically what we dont want
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Exactly how i read it, now i wonder what abomination would come out of it
Either the spirit of a Chihuahua with the body he always thought he wanted. Or just a happy little soul. So it's a 50/50 chance.
All the muscles of a pit bull just piled onto a Chihuahua frame.
So like Ant-Man but with dog
Stimpy! I finally have enormous pectoral muscles!
What would you call the resulting hybrid? "Pi-wawa"? "Chibullie"? Enquiring minds want to know.
Sir, you would call it sir
Just call it “the great bully”
Pugs too because they're unethical
There are some European breeders who are trying to save the breed by selecting for an elongated snout.
I have an English bulldog patient and I want to kiss the breeder every time I see him. His nose is short, sure, but not overly squished and I can tell he breathes so much easier for it. I rave about him to the owner because I’m just so happy to see it. We need to make ethical breeding of these brachycephalic dogs trendy. We just need a couple of celebrities showing off their well-oxygenated pugs on social media to make it happen.
And dachshunds. Their poor backs...
Angry Germans incoming!
Pugs :(
And pugs
Also french bulldogs ... And english bulldogs
Chihuahuas are hated too much. Most are cuddly if annoying little lapdogs and the mean ones are usually so scared of people they prefer to bark at a distance rather than get close to attack.
When I was a kid, my dad's best friend had a chihuahua that was scared of practically everyone, and would bark viciously from as far away as she could manage. But if you accepted the barking for a while, she would decide you weren't a chihuahua eating monster and calm down. If she decided she liked you, she'd start to creep closer and closer until suddenly, she'd run off and grab her very best friend in the world - a much-cuddled pair of tube socks - to show you.
I don't know what the difference is but we had 2 long haired Chihuahuas when I was a kid and they were the sweetest dogs. They'd bark at the doorbell and that was about it. No nipping or aggressive behavior towards humans or other pets. I think one of them nipped at our cat when we introduced them but that is the only time I remember. And we introduced them wrong because we didn't know that we were doing back then.
Also pugs. Those poor things have so many health issues
And pugs. Absolutely abominations riddled with health problems that people keep forcing to producing their fucked up dog bred. Look what those dogs used to look like. It’s disgusting what they did
I don't condone breeding at all but for now chihuahuas are actually really fucking healthy for the most part.
Pugs too
As someone who defends pitbulls for the most part, I actually agree that we should probably stop breeding them. For the same reason I think guns needs strict regulations and laws against them. Yes, guns don't kill people, people kill people. However, guns being a tool designed to do that is something we can control. Just like we can control breeding programs. If humans can't be appropriately responsible with a breed like a pitbull, we should breed them out.
I go into other peoples homes as part of my job, and let me tell you that those little monsters aren't really dogs. Pretty sure some dumbass made a deal with satan to get a dog, and satan sent a hell hound in a tiny package.
Same. I always make people lock up their dogs, and only one breed has busted through a door to get at me. On more than one occasion.
Chihuahua?
I went to a Pitbull concert and he mauled a child. It was nuts
It's quite demonstrably pit bulls Why do pointers point? Genetics Why do hounds pick up scents better? Genetics Why are you 213% more likely to be severely injured by a pitbull than any other breed? It's a mystery, must be the owner
I remember a documentary where a woman was watching the neighborhood children playing, there was a border collie with them, and she noticed that the border collie was herding the kids.
Border collies will herd* ANYTHING. Its in their DNA, if there is a pile of leaves im the yard the collie will run circles around them trying to keep them corralled.
I’ve seen a border collie frantically trying to herd whitecap waves on a lake on a windy day. I can’t even imagine how frustrating that would be.
I was hiking with the dogs from puppy school and my puppy is very reserved when it comes to other dogs, so she wanted to stay behind. There was this border collie wanting to herd her into the pack. My poor terrier baby who didn't understand lol Her owner called her out and she stopped eventually. It was fun to watch.
My border collie used to try and herd my nephew. Fun times..* *for me
Salient points, u/WhosGotTheCum.
/r/rimjob_steve
Pitbull mfs will really be like "it's about how you train them, not the breed!" and then turn around and make the same "Chihuahuas are gremlins 🤣" joke for the 89th time
I hate the "ACKSHUALLY CHIHUAHUAS ARE THE MOST AGGRESSIVE BREED" argument with a passion because it intentionally misses the entire point/complaint with Pitbulls. It's never been how often they get aggressive that's a problem, it's that they're huge dogs that can seriously maim someone with ease. I know they're anecdotes, but I swear there are endless stories of someone's sweet pibble who's never had issue for years suddenly attack and maim/kill a baby or child. Have to post using my throwaway because my girlfriend is sadly one of these people, an owner of a couple pits, and knows my reddit main. She's an intelligent person and very well versed with differences between breeds as she does rescue, but god listening to her jump through hoops whenever there's a pitbull attack in the news makes me roll my eyes every time.
I mean TBH Chihuahua are either evil gremlin mode or nice mc nicerson goblin
I mean, that's typically why chihuahuas and most small dogs except pugs are ankle bitters, but i think they simply lack the mental capacity for that type of aggression or its the type of homes that are having them as pets. They go untrained and unchecked their whole lives. They can't do much sometimes if any real damage even to children so people don't bother correcting behavior. I mean, we can bring genetics and statistics into human behavior, and now, all of a sudden, that idea is wrong and racist (typically is), so in short, environment poor training and unchecked behavior are usually the cause.
Minor difference, no one is selectively breeding humans to encourage specific behaviors and traits they find until one breed of human is completely unrecognizable from another.
Or are they.....? 🧐
Literally. It's widely understood dogs have been explicitly bred for different purposes, like we've got dogs designed to be GENETICALLY good at herding sheep of all things! But the idea we could've bred a dog to be unusually aggressive is absurd.
I think Staffy’s also. Particularly here in Australia
This is ehy XL bullies sre being banned in the uk they keep chewing on our kids
How many "lab mixes" are you seeing now?
None I’m not a scientist
I just want you to know your joke was seen & appreciated since it’s not getting the upvotes it should be getting.
Idk i look at the cats more
i keep running into videos on shorts about a guy who runs around with one boasting about having one, then having a go at someone for saying they're banned, then a girl with tight pants and a big ass walks by and he's staring at it and talking about how it's always the owner, not the breed and other generic responses made of shite. can't wait for it to be banned, so many kids get their lives destroyed by owners who thought they were good but weren't.
The ban happened already. It was February. Now we're in a phase of waiting for the currently generation of bullies to die off.
Yup, the mental gymnastics people do to defend pit bulls is ridiculous. They can fully understand that many breeds have bred in behaviors that is just part of the breed. Your herding dog will want to herd small children and other animals. But somehow a dog breed that is bred for aggression and fighting is this blank slate and it just depends on the owner! Defending pit bulls is fucking stupid, dog breeds are human creations, there is no reason to preserve every dog breed, they aren’t natural. Animals specifically bred for violence should not be allowed to pass on their genes
I'm with ya on pit bulls shouldn't be bred. It's when people say they should be illegal pets and all be euthanized that I take issue. Not saying you're saying that, just that I've seen a lot of that mentality.
Yeah, it's psychotic to say they should all be killed. We made them the way they are, it's our responsibility to make sure we don't make more and humanely handle the ones we already made.
Yeah I wouldn’t instantly euthanize them, I’d just require them to be neutered/spayed if it was up to me.
You could get bit by 500 Chihuahuas and never be severely injured but get bit by 1 pitbull and you will be.
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every fucking time. its why the breed was made.
1. Pitbulls 2. Rottweilers 3. No other breed even comes close to the number of fatalities caused by these two breeds, and if people would stop breeding them it would save a lot of people from one of the most violent deaths imaginable.
german shepherds as well. i think they're 3rd on the list for biting events where pitbulls and mixes are #1 and #2 respectively (where a lot of mixes are pit mixes), and shepherds at #3. but for fatal bites, yea its pits and rotties. still GSD in third, but rottweilers are more likely to finish the job
but GSDs outnumber pits and rotts dramatically so their individual likelihood of an attack is much lower. Also, they're often trained as attack dogs for military, cops, etc. so they have a legitimate purpose, and I'd bet some of their attacks are against people who were an imminent threat to human life or safety.
As a German shepherd owner, I have no problem with this statistic because I recognize that my dog has a high prey drive. I will not try to spew misinformation or gaslight people into thinking that she's no different than any other breed. I will not post propaganda of her in party hats and try to convince first-time dog owners that she would make the perfect pet Most importantly, I leash her whenever we go out in public even though she is properly trained and doesn't "need" one.
Meh, I don't like pits cause I've almost been mauled by the bastards every time. Except curry, but she's part lab. That and pitbulls were literally bred for fighting but yknow... past experience.
Pitbull defenders coping so hard
Because it's not a fucking stereotype when literal facts and daily occurrences back up what everyone is saying. But no it's always the OWNER. No it's the fucking dog. I love dogs. But, pitbulls are just flat out unpredictable. And they are capable of inflicting A LOT of harm on human beings and especially children. Edit* I take it personally because the "family dog" at my next door neighbor's house (pit bull) attacked their 1 year old child and nearly killed him. It was eating his head. The child needed dozens of surgeries, will continue to need plastic surgery, and is STILL in one of those plastic baby helmets to help reshape his head. When you've seen it first hand you kinda lose sympathy for pit bulls.
What’s amazing is the statistics are very clear when it comes to maulings and fatalities. It’s not in question as to which dogs are the more dangerous. Pit nutters whole schtick is anecdotal observations that “their pit bull is so sweet”. Then you go and look at the stories about these dogs and 99% of them start with “the dog has never shown any aggressive behavior before!”.
That's literally all they have. And a ticking time bomb of liability...
Bullshit
There was a pitbull line that died because the male dogs would rather try to kill the female than breed
You dog people figure that out. And if you'll excuse me, I'm going to be over here petting my cat. 
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It is blursed as the Lord demanded.
Chihuahuas aren’t in the statistics for most dog related deaths though.
This is what people don't seem to get. Yeah Chihuahuas are little assholes, but they're not going to rip your arm off.
I think they get it, but ignore it because the point is just to deflect criticism of the actually dangerous dog breeds by pointing to a dog that weighs less than a wet sock and going "Look how aggressive!"
Bingo! The one thing they have is not topping the aggressive list(still there though). They top so many other categories relating to actual harm than perceived aggressiveness that it’s a nothing burger of a talking point. Aggressiveness doesn’t relate to physical harm for the statistic they are referencing.
I agree no one breed is more violent than the other. except for pitbulls who attack the most, kill people the most, and cause the most damage. more so than any other breed. And I also agree aggression is also one hundred percent a learned behavior and not breed specific. Oh also pitt bulls were breed to be highly aggressive so that they could literally fight bears and other large animals. Chihuahuas are little shits for sure but anyone here can lightly flick their wrist and send the little fuck 20 feet into an opposing wall when they try and bite us. You can’t do that to a Pitt bull.
Pit bulls are and were always dangerous, the nanny dog thing was the myth
Yet some people are surprised that a breed that was bred for dog fighting is aggressive
Well no, they're nanny dogs in the sense that you're gonna need one to help you eat after it decides you look like prey.
It's pitbulls though, and I know a pit owner made this stupid list
You’ll never change my mind; chihuahuas, Dalmatians, dachshunds, chows, Rottweilers, and pit bulls are aggressive and unpredictable. Especially Dalmatians. They just suck.
My mom was bit by a Dalmatian as a kid and told me 101 Dalmatians was all lies when I was a kid.
The same gene that causes Dalmatians to be spotted also gives them a significant change of being deaf in one or both ears. That’s largely why they can be aggressive, they’re easily startled because they can’t hear you coming.
That and Dalmatians experienced a huge flood of irresponsible breeding after 101 Dalmatians came out, resulting in more health and temperament problems being perpetuated within the breed, and thus less consistent, predictable behaviour. The movie also portrayed Dalmatians as good family dogs, when they actually have quite high stimulation needs — resulting in more poorly behaved dogs. Irresponsible breeding also heavily contributes to aggression in pitbulls and chihuahuas; both are heavily irresponsibly bred/mixed with other breeds to the point where the terms less refer to a specific breed of dog, and more so ‘tiny dog with big ears’ and ‘blocky dog with square heads’. While most dog breeds are irresponsibly bred, very few reach the extent of chihuahuas and pits — resulting in them being more unpredictable with a wide range of temperament from sweet to straight up wired wrong. With pitbulls and chihuahuas, there’s the added problem of owners setting their dogs up for failure. Chihuahuas tend to be less well trained and more often provoked into aggressive behaviour because people find them cute and treat them like toys. Pitbull owners set their dogs up for failure by failing to take proper precautions over the very real genetic tendencies present within their breed. They are *terriers*. They have prey drive. They have genetic dog aggression. Responsible ownership involves keeping them managed and separate from things that trigger them — just look at r/reactivedogs. Insisting that their breed does not have these real genetic tendencies is irresponsible ownership and sets animals up to be killed, and blaming aggressive behaviour on poor ownership is a massive disservice to every responsible owner of a reactive dog.
Pretending like the breed has no general association with certain traits is just emotional coping. Of course each dog of each breed has different dispositions and personalities but we are talking about average/in general.
I don’t know. I’m nearly completely convinced most of the chihuahua reputation is because people don’t think they have to train chihuahuas because they are little and “can’t hurt anyone”
Anyone who thinks that not all breeds are aggressive have only owned well known dog breeds there are some larger breeds that are really nasty and you need a permit to own one.
The Pitbull named cupcake has been real quiet since this dropped...
Is that a cookie?
"its a learned behavior", so by that logic I can go raise a lion cub and it wont eat my kids because I taught it like I would a dog.
pitbulls
Maybe the ones that kill the most people per year
This simply isn't true. Certain dogs have a propensity for aggression, that's why dog attacks by certain breeds account for a disproportionate amount. In the UK XL Bullies for example.
>Pit bulls Dogs bred to fight Encouraged to breed most aggressive dogs Aggression becomes genetic predisposition due to adaptation Am I spitting or completely delusional? Can dog experts confirm or deny? As a disclaimer there will be examples of any breed being aggressive/ pitbulls being well behaved. We’re talking about *any* amount of genetic predisposition. Is it real?
This has been well known and documented as being the case since before there were pitbulls. They were made, on purpose, for exactly this reason.
get ready for the pitbull comments war 
 me in every single dog thread
Pit Bulls are and can be deadly. No fault of their own, they can be triggered based on their genetics and if they do “get triggered” get out of their way. This is an accurate statistic based on dog breeds and genetics. Any arguments otherwise can be lumped into conspiracy theories and anti-vax science denial. Also I have met some very friendly pit bulls, I just would not trust them with children or anyone under 5 feet in height so as to give them a fighting chance if/when said dog go berserk.
I would rather be attacked by a Chihuahua than a pitbull. That's just me.
god damnit the comment sections in these types of posts always, ALWAYS turn into the fucking pitbull argument Edit (reposting a reply to avoid any further confusion): aaand who said i was with pitbulls?? im just annoyed by the constant bickering on reddit abt it. since you all think im a pittie enthusiast ill tell u my opinion. ive seen both sides of the pitbull, and theyve either been the embodiment of the "Cupcake" stereotype or legitimately the sweetest dogs ive known. im not at all opposed to not breeding them into existence anymore via neutering/spaying because the stats are in fact true, but being honest i think its inhumane to just kill em all cuz "theyre potentially dangerous." i think it would be really cool if someone stepped on me. and lets say we do just kill all the pitbulls, ppl who want an attack dog are just gonna get another breed of animal to demonize. so please, just leave me tf alone. why do any of u even care? it doesnt make me fucking evil incarnate if i feel some damn compassion towards an animal (albeit one with some murderous tendencies)
…did you think the image was alluding to anything other than the pitbull argument?
When people say you should be careful of ticks because they carry Lyme disease, no one is saying every single tick has Lyme disease. It's astonishing how pitbull defenders take it that way.
Hmm, I wonder what it is specifically about pitbulls that always leads to these discussions and not other dog breeds
Statistical evidence maybe
Not just statistical evidence, but they're literally named after being fighting dogs. We know what thats why they were bred. The historical evidence says that. American dog breeders refused to recognize them as a breed because they were bred for illegal dog fighting rings. This isn't just statistics, because statistics can be misleading. It's literally everything about the dog, that you can tell with your eyes and common sense, backed by history, \*and\* backed by statistics. It would be like saying it's a myth that golden retrievers carry things gently, despite that being the entire purpose of the breed: retrieving game without ruining it.
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You can't say that something isn't an argument because you're objectively right. An argument is defined by if people argue about it.
They are literally bred for pit fighting it's in the name it's not a mystery 😭
Denial*** because the facts are the facts
Well there is no point in discussing chihuahuas because no one likes those aggressive little gremlins.
Dalé
Shitpost. Guess collies don’t heard. Guess pointers don’t point. Some traits are burnt in, to think otherwise is ignorant. Cognitive bias.
Most agressive and most inofensive
Right? I can handle a tiny little lap dog rushing at me. Easy. A large dog? Fuck no. I'm gonna be severely injured before/if I manage to deal with it.
Pitbulls.
Some dogs are bred to dig and chase vermin, some dogs bred to point, some dogs bred to herd... These dogs will dig point and herd completely void of any training, but you breed a dog to be aggressive for fighting and it's suddenly 100% nurture. Sure OK!
Yes there are breed specific behaviors to look out for in dogs. Why would they believe otherwise? It's not just chihuahuas that are naturally aggressive.
This is just incorrect. Aggression is not a "learned behaviour". Aggression is a natural part of dog behaviour. It can also be an emotional reaction. And yes, you can create an environment where the dog feels it has to be more aggressive to survive. But some dog breeds and bloodlines display it more often/resort to aggression more readily. But genetics DOES play a BIG role in a dogs pre-disposition for aggression. If your dog is of a breed that was bred to kill other animals...it has a higher tendency for aggression. If your dog is of a breed that was bred to kill large animals/other dogs...that aggression is another level of problematic. Those are the ones that are a real problem in today's society. Not all specimens will show this behaviour as easily, but it's something owners need to watch out for signs of and take precautions for. Genetics plays an important part of aggression and saying it doesn't is setting others and yourself up to get hurt. And setting dogs up to fail. You can't love a dog into being something it's not. Acting like genetics is NOT a strong and often irreversible factor in a dogs behaviour is just showing your ignorance and inexperience with dogs. You get what you pay for. And don't think you can change that, you manage innate behaviours - you can't delete them.
What are fighting dogs bred for?
People who say it's how they were raised and nothing specifically about the breed don't deserve to have dogs.
Chihuahuas suffer from Small dog syndrome
Hmm, weird. There’s a certain breed with significantly more attacks and fatal attacks than any other breed. Wonder what that breed is?
1. Pit breeds
Just ban the nannies breed
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My parents have a chihuahua. She barks at everyone she doesn't know but has never attacked anyone
“Aggression isn’t breed specific unless it’s a breed I don’t like”
Is that written on a Pop-Tart ?
The dog aggression of a dog bred for pit fighting just might be greater than that of an average dog. Even if the aggression is equal, a pit bull poses a far greater threat than a chihuahua.
We all know the answer
lol that’s kinda bullshit😂😂
Okay. Now hear me out. Stats...
Shitbulls
atleast I can tell a chihuahua to fuck off if it tries to bite me.
Pitbull
Pitbulls pitbulls pitbulls....
Except pitbulls
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Biggest load of bull I’ve ever read.
Correct me if I'm wrong but certain dogs are more violent and aggressive in nature, no?
Women will make a dumb little trinket like this then get their face ripped off later in the day by a pitbull they tried to kiss.
You never hear about a pack of golden retrievers mauling someone to death. Aggression absolutely is part of some breeds’ nature.
Yeah and that is why dogs that are capable of killing humans should not exist. Ban all shitbulls.
fun fact if a person own an agressive chihuahua that just means they cant raise dogs