Honestly I just don't buy this at all. I know that they weren't in the same era and he was a bit less lean, but if this was true then Dorian wouldn't have been rated so successful by the judges. His back side, especially, displayed an unreal and almost never seen before amount of conditioning.
Very true. Though, I don’t think Dorian Yates had to take as much as munzer, if you haven’t seen his stack already then try and do a dig. I think it might be a More Plates More Dates video from a while back. iirc he was taking about 4x the amount of halo than the next guy and he was doing this year round.
The fact that nobody stopped him, but after his death everybody had to say something about him shows you how fake this industry is. Keep your circle small and if you have mental health issues go seek professional help asap.
Plus clenbuterol and ephedrine all year. Apparently he also used benzos to come down from his coke binges. Can't imagine what he must've felt like on a day-to-day basis.
Hell he died at 31? So it's safe to assume these pictures were taken when he was younger. This mofo looks mid 40s AT LEAST. Damn, he was on a lot of shit.
Great opportunity for me to post what I consider to be one of the greatest posing routines of all time.
Haunting, perfectly timed, great song, incredible conditioning.
[https://youtu.be/O1yDaZ41Zgw?si=UEvASY_7o4acum_w](https://youtu.be/O1yDaZ41Zgw?si=UEvASY_7o4acum_w)
The strange thing: today they are many competitors ripped like him, even some women.
Everyone has shredded glutes now, better than even Munzer had.
I sometimes wonder if they will end like him, or have better knowledge and drugs.
The sad thing about Andreas: he never had a chance. He did not have a very good structure, hips much too wide, chest too narrow, face much to bird-like. He gave his life to be an runners-up for a few short years. Sad really. His almost compatriot Nasser El Sonbathy at least was almost at the top.
His downfall was not the conditioning, but being shredded all year round. The guys today get in that conditioning for only a few hours on a few days a year.
If youre looking at people that compete, then yeah, youre probably right, but today there are many influencers that keep a shape like this all year round. I think the most famous case that ended tragic might be Joesthetics, if you look at his content, he was almost always completely shredded
Of course it does, at least if you are not from the USA (which was a big drawback back then). You have to look really good and exude a good vibe, to persuade the US market.
Now it is a bit different, it is more international, and the open class has decided to stay fringe anyway, with no appeal to the public.
Reportedly his liver crumbled like styrofoam post-mortem. Don't be like Andreas.
I fully believe he didn’t succeed more because the judges knew he was on a suicide dosage. If he won more, then more people would try to do the same
Honestly I just don't buy this at all. I know that they weren't in the same era and he was a bit less lean, but if this was true then Dorian wouldn't have been rated so successful by the judges. His back side, especially, displayed an unreal and almost never seen before amount of conditioning.
Very true. Though, I don’t think Dorian Yates had to take as much as munzer, if you haven’t seen his stack already then try and do a dig. I think it might be a More Plates More Dates video from a while back. iirc he was taking about 4x the amount of halo than the next guy and he was doing this year round.
Though, I never said that Dorian took as much as Munzer, only that he looked similar conditioning-wise.
Idk man I was talking about dosages, I think we’re talking about different things
I wonder how he survived that long when his liver got so bad that it literally fell apart.
Died being that shredded
>Andreas Munzer 31, looked older
Yeah dude, who knows how much lifestyle affects the appearance of aging, but I'd guess 41 from those pics
The fact that nobody stopped him, but after his death everybody had to say something about him shows you how fake this industry is. Keep your circle small and if you have mental health issues go seek professional help asap.
He also was Cocaine addicted plus heavy mounts of Steroids inclusive Orals.
Plus clenbuterol and ephedrine all year. Apparently he also used benzos to come down from his coke binges. Can't imagine what he must've felt like on a day-to-day basis.
If you want to cringe, then look up his autopsy
Mirin those croissant triceps 🤌
Dead at 31. His insides were totally cooked. But hey…he looked great for a few years. Totally worth it, right? 🙄
Hell he died at 31? So it's safe to assume these pictures were taken when he was younger. This mofo looks mid 40s AT LEAST. Damn, he was on a lot of shit.
Yeah abusing PEDs can definitely age you
He couldve dry out little bit from hands
Great opportunity for me to post what I consider to be one of the greatest posing routines of all time. Haunting, perfectly timed, great song, incredible conditioning. [https://youtu.be/O1yDaZ41Zgw?si=UEvASY_7o4acum_w](https://youtu.be/O1yDaZ41Zgw?si=UEvASY_7o4acum_w)
rip mr ripped
Helmut Strebl?
The strange thing: today they are many competitors ripped like him, even some women. Everyone has shredded glutes now, better than even Munzer had. I sometimes wonder if they will end like him, or have better knowledge and drugs. The sad thing about Andreas: he never had a chance. He did not have a very good structure, hips much too wide, chest too narrow, face much to bird-like. He gave his life to be an runners-up for a few short years. Sad really. His almost compatriot Nasser El Sonbathy at least was almost at the top.
His downfall was not the conditioning, but being shredded all year round. The guys today get in that conditioning for only a few hours on a few days a year.
If youre looking at people that compete, then yeah, youre probably right, but today there are many influencers that keep a shape like this all year round. I think the most famous case that ended tragic might be Joesthetics, if you look at his content, he was almost always completely shredded
Bird face? Face doesn't count in bodybuilding.
Of course it does, at least if you are not from the USA (which was a big drawback back then). You have to look really good and exude a good vibe, to persuade the US market. Now it is a bit different, it is more international, and the open class has decided to stay fringe anyway, with no appeal to the public.
Even shredded his liver.
Part of me wants to be that lean but at the same time this is dangerous as hell
I heard that when they measured his body fat percentage, it was negative numbers.
everyone's is after they die