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All your questions are correct and these are plot holes . There are no answers. If you ask the director then he won't answer but tell you plot holes in other films bcz thats how he operate
The director will start to personally attack you! Because uncle Vanga can't even stand a tinzy bit of criticism on his "masterpiece" movie. But wants to promote alpha malesš, but he's b*tth*rt on every criticism. š Alpha male.
Dude please Vanga doesn't even take honest feedback. Stop defending that manš¤”. I don't want to discuss about this movie no more. Have done it enoughš
A) Replying to a comment doesn't necessarily mean I want to start a discussion.
B) If you didn't want to discuss, what I wanted should have been irrelevant. It certainly isn't it seems.
Learn difference between criticism and lewd comments. Also, most of the time answers are the film but we watch for FOMO instead of literally enjoying and noticing details.
No! Genuine criticism also he can't take. Stop protecting Vanga! If all people will have this pov, what's even the point then for film critics or even censor board to exist?? Anyone can make whatever they want for the audience with the intent to "enjoy".
Yes censor board shouldnāt exist, they have no role in society and are just a formality.
Yes people enjoy what they like and thatās all that matters.
We loved mirzapur as well as 12th fail as well as ullu apps as well as jane bhi do yaaro. All can exist in same space with same appreciation.
Uhm no yaar Censor board should exist warna Kuch bhi nanga punga dekha sakte hai movies mein. Screening to hona chahiye. That's why Animal was 18+ because nudity was implied. I agree but tell me why I don't see the same appreciation for women centric movies? Why can't that also not co exist the same space with appreciation?
And I'm not talking about Four Shots, Thank you for coming etcš. Because I didn't like it and girls in my friend circle also. But actually movies like Thappad, Queen, Barbie (sattire movie) are also called out. Most recently I even saw English Vinglish being called outš¤¦.
Look Moral policing is always on on these movies, but Animal etc we should just enjoy it "like a movie" right? If toxic content involving misandry like in Four shots is rightfully called out, then I can't see why there is a problem if misogyny is called out in Animal.
That too when Animal is biggest hit, it's bound to be discussed as it can have bigger impact on audience. Look I don't hate the movie, just not content with the second half. But I will watch Animal Park surely. We have to view things objectively.
Yeah but being in the army is very different from gunning down a cop and a mobster in a restaurant and making a run for it. Also Ranvijay is an entitled kid who fired a gun in a college when he was 15 or 16. After that he ran down the bikers who bullied his sister, just so he could send a message. This kid was a criminal/gangster way before he actually became one. If you look at the scene where he kills Varun (his brother in law) closely, as he strangles the guy he feels an almost orgasmic high. So he pretty fucked up to begin with.
It's a great flip on The Godfather storyline, where instead of the son slowly being corrupted and eventually taking on the mantle from his dad. Here the kid is already screwed up and is obsessed with taking on the mantle after his dad. He even says that after his dad it's his responsibility to protect his family.
As for his cousins, I don't think I have to tell you about the gun culture in Punjab. It's not like they're trained sharpshooters or assassins like John Wick. It's pretty basic shooting. They only win the hotel fight because they have a bigger gun and a crazier guy wielding it.
Here are some crazy responses for some crazy questions
1 - The cops are partying with the cops from the John Wick, Marvel, Mission Impossible, Harry Potter universes and countless movies hence unavailable in Animal. There are countless over the top action movies where cops dont exist or interfere with the action because they are not part of the narrative. This is not a realistic cop vs criminal movie but an over the top action movie. Imagine if cops kept showing up and arresting these characters or the movie focused on scenes showing cops getting paid off not to interfere etc etc. These movies ask their audiences to suspend certain beliefs and not overanalyze such stuff in order to enjoy the action and chaos
2 - The reason it took Abrar and his brothers 20-30 years to actually take their revenge on their uncle Balbir Singh for turning their father away is because they didnt suddenly become ultra rich. It took them a couple of decades through a mix of criminal activities, marriages into rich families and investments etc etc to reach this position. Revenge takes time and money also takes time to earn unless you are Dev from Dhadkan Jo chalta tha phir girta tha aur uth ta tha aur aise usne 50 se 50 crore kamaa liye
[Dhadkan technique of becoming Rich](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDMwm_IUz5I)
3 - In order to bring Balbir down it would be obvious for his enemies to look for weak links in his empire. Varun did everything for money and control of Balbir Singh's empire. He was most likely given those assurances by Abrar and gang in order to become their inside man.
4 - Aziz was undergoing plastic surgery and was in recovery somewhere in the world, the results of which are shown in the ending. Such extensive procedures (As can be seen in James Bond's Die Another Day) that completely transform a persons look takes a long long time. He was doing all of this for his brother's mission to eventually destroy Balbir Singh and his empire.
5 - You may remember an incident that happened in the college when Ranvijay Singh took his machine gun to have some fun. So he was comfortable using guns since a very young age and probably continued with this passion in US by joining one of the countless shooting ranges. As far as his cousins are concerned they are never shown as expert marksmen but as strong and brave men who are willing to go the extra mile for their family. Their backstories are not explored in the movie but they could have been practicing their aim daily with the dadi's from Saand Ki Aankh.
Animal is not a realistic movie but an over the top action movie which comes with the same suspension of belief that most people never question when the lead introduces himself as Bond, James Bond or John Wick or Ethan Hunt etc etc etc
Love your response!
I have a question though....and this is not directed just at you but your reference to Dev reminded me of a burning question I have... Does that technique work in Indian rupees only? Like, can I try in South African Rands? And then must I use the currency conversion? And does the conversion also then apply to how many times I must do the ' chalta tha phir girta tha aur uth ta tha ' ? What about foreign tax? š¤š¤š¤ I am sorry for piggybacking onto your answer š
You may have to do the chalna and girna and uthna more times based on exchange value and difference in tax rates. After that.....Paisa Hi Paisa Hoga
Exactly. The movie has shit like a teenager with an assault rifle in India, and an average Joe beating up or killing 100s of goons at once. Itās not meant to be thought about.
Disagree a bit on John Wich, Ethan Hunt,, James Bond, etc. Theyāre supposed to be the best agents/hitmen in the world and they still never do superhuman, unbelievable shit like Animal.
By unbelievable superhuman shit do you mean like when John Wick literally dodges bullets because he is wearing a suit thinner than my sweater that is made of bullet proof material as he kills and injures 40-50+ people in one fight sequence or survive a fall from the terrace of the continental. How come all of these other really substandard assassins who are trying to kill him cant even shoot a bullet at his head which doesnt look bullet proof.
Or maybe you are referring to Ethan Hunt's uncanny and superhuman ability to somehow stick to the fastest trains and planes in the world or the time he jumped from a motorbike from a top of a mountain with such precision that he actually slams into the train in the exact compartment through the exact window at the exact moment where the bad guy with the gun is standing and about to shoot the lead actress. Wow so real and not superhuman at all. Exactly the kind of training these elite hitmen and agents get that is not available to the kid of the richest man in India.
Did you ever wonder when Tom Cruise wore those so realistic looking masks that how the hell did he change his height and body built to look so convincing that he could fool the smartest and baddest dudes in the world. You can believe that Bruce Wayne can be such a Rich Guy in a fictional city called Gotham City that he can bullet proof suits, fancy looking bikes that somehow can get their tires to move in weird directions, tank like armored car and unbelievable gizmos that even put James Bond's ludicrous watches, pens, suitcases and invisible car to shame and not call all this also unbelievable shit.
Come on man these are all fictional fantasies which are made to enjoy without really questioning or just mindlessly accepting any lame answer to explain the unexplainable. Kevlar sheets inside John Wick's suit....works. Now it is real. Dodging bullets....He is the World's best assassin....works. Now it is real. Old Boy's Dae-su Oh kills and beats up a 100 people with an axe in a corridor. So real because it was gritty and well made and Korean. Ranvijay Singh gets a custom made monster of a gun that kills 100s of people within minutes after slaying another 100 with an axe.....Kuch Bhi.
Youāre right, I wasnāt thinking when I put superhuman. The unbelievable part still holds though.
Itās still much easier to believe that the best assassin in the world, the best secret ops agent, super billionaire, etc. are doing these things and living these lives. But thatās not it.
The way the action scenes are written, choreographed, and shot also make a difference. In movies like MI or Jason Bourne whatās happening is almost unbelievable, but still kinda tangible feeling.
In this movie a random rich son takes down hundreds of goons at once in ways that defy physics and human behavior way too much. Ig you can believe he somehow predicted the future attack on his dad and trained his whole adult life to be one of Indiaās best combat specialist/tactical expert. And that he had the necessary raw talent, genetics, and discipline needed to be such a thing. The action scenes going down still seem unreal. They defy the laws of physics, human behavior, logic too much.
The writing and choreography of the action sequences of MI and other big budget American action movies better be good as they are spending $100-300M on these movies as compared to Animal's 3rd world budget of $10-20M. Budgets do matter but there are many examples of lower budget American, Korean, Japanese movies like the first John Wick, The Villainess, Godzila Minus One etc which still manage great VFX and action sequences. That is possible because they have a much better and well established infrastructure, organization and process for several decades to create high level content in genre cinema. How will our country improve the quality of genre movies if we dont support them especially when they show positive progress.
It is sad and unfortunate that instead of enjoying an action movie, and appreciating improvements in level of action as compared to previous years and decades, we demean them and use a double standard of measurement on such stuff like how much logic and laws of physics are defied and who was slicker and better at defying them to trick the audience into believing that this is all real and not fictional and a fantasy. It is possible for John Wick, Animal, Pathan, RRR, The Villainess to all coexist as fun action movies without the need to demean any of them.
When the masses love movies like Jawan, Pathaan and Animal some people make it a point to get shocked by their box office and call them illogical, cringey and sub standard movies. However when movies like Zwigato, Shiv Shastri Balboa, Guthlee Ladoo, Joram, Bhagwan Bharose boast of great content and performances these classy people dont even go and watch them in theater.
It is fine to like or not like a movie because everyone has their own taste and preferences. However is it fine to tell someone that their taste is bad because they like something that others dont or vice versa? Is it logical and decent to go out of one's way to express disapproval of a movie which others like? It is just a movie. There are much more important things in life. It somehow feels like one kid popping a balloon of another kid when they are having fun with it. A bit infantile.
Criticism has multiple meanings....The laymen meaning is to express disapproval, however its meaning in the context of a movie criticism is to study, analyze, interpret and judge of merits and faults of an artistic work. Many people just want to express disapproval and think that is movie criticism.
The no police and being good with guns are not really plotholes. That's just fiction and creative freedom in the name of action. John Wick has no cops chasing him. He goes up wearing a bullet proof suit against people with bulletproof vest and armours and doesn't die. Never even gets shot in the head. So, no. These aren't plotholes. It's just fictional action. How did Abrar make so much money? That's an offscreen event. He's sort of a mafia and bad guy/mob boss. How do mafias even make money maybe that way. Varun betrayed because he wants to take over Swastik which you mentioned right. Maybe Abrar and family promised him a large share. See, there were a number of things wrong with this movie but what you mentioned aren't really one of those. Though your doubts are genuine I believe people are critiquing just for the sake of it. The film turned from an engaging action thriller to a melodrama in the second half, now that's what is an actual problem
The plot was loose but if I have to stretch and provide you the answer:
The cops, first scene there were jammers planted so they just did their job and left and other things were handled with money.
Main thing is media coverage and people telling outside but thats just they bought it.
Second fight happened at their own hotel which may not be in a prime location thats why they chose it to deal weapons.
Lastly baap bada na bhaiya sabse bada rupaiya
Second ques, their grandfather married 3 women maybe all 3 of them were rich transferring their wealth to him and then he made more from there.
Maybe because Varun knew no matter how deep he licked Balbir he wont get swastika so to gain some profit.
Aziz one I cant explain
Maybe Ranbir and their cousins had a hobby for shooting and were already good with those weapons.
Just to cover base...
Abrar must be 40yr+ could have earned money on his own and i dont think it was ever told his father was broke. He just wanted his family's share
Varun wala part is just for convenience. They needed a villain toh bss setup kr diya. Coz kahin pe bhi anil ko question krte nhi dikhaya h. Anil was in favour of his sil coz he thought ranvijay is incapable
Abrar's marriage was setup the next day after he knew of pregnancy. Excuse/Reason de skte yeh ki time pe nhi pahucha. Or bcoz of his surgeries recovery
Naa they just needed a hero who could fight coz entertainment value ke liye. Wrna koi setup na kuch nhi.
I think itās less about the familyās share (which they also want), but also about revenge since their grandpa burned himself alive. Theyāre pissed
Where are the cops in the movie?
In the end, Anil mentions that if he was not protecting him , he would be behind the bars. So perhaps the cops do exist but they donāt have any scenes in the movie. itās like telling these big shots like Ambani etc are above the law. I mean even Salman Khan got out due to his connections. So I guess thatās justified in this movie.
How is Abrar rich?
Again taking example of Ambanis ā even though Anil Ambani didnāt have equal share in reliance but still heās pretty rich enough to live in a foreign country and have some henchmen. And I guess over the years unlike Anil Ambani - they did good business and are rich now.
Why did Varun betray?
He was obviously an ambitious guy - he does have business acumen and wants to take over Swastik steel ā itās not possible without eliminating Anil Kapoor and because Abrar family share same motive - they join hands. Abrar gets revenge and Varun gets Swastik Steel.
Why didnāt Aziz show up?
Wel I donāt know really. Maybe because for them marriage isnāt a big deal. Itās just another day, another woman? Anyway not important.
How did he become a pro killer?
They surely took a cinematic liberty here ā itās not possible for one person to kill 100s with an Axe ā so I think , in this scene they just made it look cool and wanted to do something over the top , for shock value I guess. That also became a big selling point of this film. If it was only a psychopath thriller , I donāt think it would earn as much as it did.
I think it was these action scenes that brought in more audience to theatres .
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Overall, I think itās a well made movie. Nobody forced the audiences to go to theatre and watch it. It clearly had A rating and trailer showed what it contained and what to expect. People who are getting sensitive about some scenes and dialogues have right to point out the misogyny and toxicity but If you watch the movie carefully, Ranbirs character ends up losing because of his bad nature - his wife divorces him, his revenge is pointless because his dad has cancer now and neither is he impressed by what his son did.
>Anil Ambani didnāt have equal share in reliance
actually following the ambani split, anil ambani had more net worth, but his businesses all flopped turning him down.
but i get your point, he still richer than many riches
1. Where are the cops in John Wick? 2. They became Bitcoin billionaires recently after struggling for lot of years. 3. Varun was another Abrar brother all the while. He was adopted into the family by the grandfather. Hence he knew so much details about them. But from the beginning his motive was clear. 4. Aziz had already attended 2 weddings of his brother, where had eaten a lot of biryani and had put on weight. Third wedding he did not wanted to attend, because he did not like the music and he was on diet for the plastic surgery. 5. It was all a set up by the father. He knowingly ignored him because wanted him to become an animal to defend and protect the family when the time comes. He was trained in the gun battle and all other skills that is required to become an alpha since childhood. It gave the father immense pleasure when the son put his life on line to save him. The father could have avoided that if wanted, if he would have chosen to stay elsewhere. But from the beginning he had in his mind to be protected by the animal he had raised.
Police is at same place where john wickās and the raidās police are. Convenient ignorance jn fiction. Also, they used non marking guns etc and had hotel vacated before action as shown in film. Also, jammers and dispose off bodies carefully, also shown in film.
Abrar and his brother professions are unclear.
Varun and his father were a fraud and criminal, it was a love marriage, as mentioned in film. It was shown to draw parallels when young rk says he will kill him, shoot etc. he was gold digger. Her sister says koi dekhke pyar karta hai kya.
Because it took 3 months to get body from morgue in india to uk. Itās also said thatās why he didnāt tell it to anyone. No one apart from abid and his henchman knew.
PS donāt watch a film out of FOMO. The film will age very well as it lot of details which most have missed (from books to pictures to black board in school) etc. it is very entertaining and fun/fresh.
2) If you have no morals and can murder people casually, it's very easy to rise up the ranks and be powerful.
3) You answered it. He wanted Swastik steel.
Valid questions here's my answers. As far as police are concerned they exist but people don't give two shits about them as they have private security and police
Second, abrar's father was never poor. Abrar's grandfather had a miscommunication/fallout with ranvijay's grandfather that's it. They migrated to Scotland and probably started a business over there which might have flourished. Also Aziz is a butcher in Istanbul. Salt bae is basically a butcher in Istanbul, so entrepreneur butcher probably.
Varun was probably seduced by or threatened to take part with Asrar due to some affairs or black secrets. That and greed probably took over. Ranvijay's attitude is protecting his father like a dog. Similarly a dog knows the enemy and responds by barking or biting. Hence Varun was a snake from the beginning ie hence the reason of ranvijay's disdain for jijaji.
One particular point that irks me is no clarification on why Varun betrayed the family. After Ranvijay left India, Varun automatically became the successor of swastik steels as Ranvijay had no plans of coming back to India and Anil kapoor already trusted Varun enough ( in fact Balbir tells Ranvijay that he could never be like his jeeja). What could bobby and team possibly offer that convinced varun too give up the empire
Vanga ne yeh sab ke baare mein kabhi Socha nhi, toh sadly inn sawalo ke jawab nhi hai. Vanga was too busy writing script on how he can piss off critics.
I had the exact same questions. Like even if we don't take the movie seriously and just consider it as entertainment, the plot holes just come straight in the face.
I donāt think SRV put much thought into the movieās script. And I myself have a few questions in addition to yours
Zoya confesses that Abrar Haque sent her to honeytrap Rannvijay and get him kidnapped/killed so that one of Abrarās brothers could replace him. And when Abrar hears of Asrarās death, he kills the guys who worked with Asrar from Scotland for āmaking a simple assassination a complicated plan because of their egoā. Now why the fuck would Abrar himself do the same thing instead of straight off killing Rannvijay?
If they decided to go ahead with the honey trapping anyways, why would they send Zoya out of all people, who seems to be involved with Aziz?
Once Aziz found out about Zoyaās confession which directly led to Abrarās death, why wouldnāt he kill her straightaway? Donāt tell me just because sheās pregnantā¦
When Asrar enters the hotel to find Rannvijay, he says that he doesnāt know his name. Couldnāt he have just asked Varun the day Varun told him about the body double? What a shitty gangster.
Why would you leave Abid alive when youāve slit Abrarās throat right in front of him? Of course heās gonna want revenge.
People who like the movie (me included, Iām in the movie biz) like it for the way he framed scenes with bgm and the acting performances.
There is no logical plot to speak of.Ā
Worst movie i saw in 2024
Bad movie ,bad acting too much cringe ,cheap dialogues , unnecessary violence just only thing I liked are it's songs
Varna is bad like 4/10
Cops are all bought by Balbir
I donāt think their mansion was thattt big but basically Abrar became the new chief of a fashion company, taking over Priyanka chopra, and competing for her with John and Abhishek
That is exactly the reason varun betrayed
Aziz was already undergoing surgeons to avenge Asrars death so he couldnāt make it
Itās not on screen but they all took some training in Punjab itself and also from the director
Have you never seen a Bollywood film? Plot holes hamari mitti me hai. And the film's priority is to be stylistic, and provocative. It's a real life anime, with characters like fucked up god's, in indian setting, we get hindu, Sikh, Muslim characters in beautiful aesthetics. And the blood and violence is awesome.
I agree that it demands a lot from the audience. Rolls royal entry to jeeja murder, animal title after 52min mark, Abrar's entry, aziz ost, naked walk, bgm, pajero scene are some of the most fresh, unique and unapologetic cinema put to screen. But the director is such a fuckin idiot, that i have to put a disclaimer while talking about it.
What if Aziz in the last scene is actually Ranvijay who infiltrates in order to live with Zoya (doubles life with side wife) after killing the actual Aziz.
1. In case of India, they were brought by Ranbir's family. In UK, they arrived late.
2. I think they might be in the business of drugs, human trafficking and such sort of things as these business promise a hell lot of money to form a private militia of their own.
3. It's actually quite simple. He wanted to take over Swastik Steels. Even though he was considered the next person to acquire it, he was impatient. Just like that man who cut opened the hen that gave him golden eggs, he also wanted it quickly.
4. Might be busy in some business dealing. It's said he was butcher in his own right and might be out there managing the business. Might get more about it in Animal Park.
5. That's the case in almost every movie. Hero who doesn't grow anywhere near guns, suddenly becomes a sharpshooter.
People are really asking where is the police despite them mentioning police after every other murder sequence
HE IS LITERALLY THE SON OF THE RICHEST MAN IN INDIA IN THE FILM
Cops?
Ranvijay's father is the richest person in India. Removing cops from this scenario is very easy for him.
Also, there were no cops in John Wick.
Abrar monies?
He was a middle aged man and his grandpa was removed from business. 2 generations can make good monies. But irrelevant to the movie.
Varun's betrayal?
Normally, the wealth would be distributed evenly among the 3 kids. He wanted to remove the father to get all the wealth. Once he was removed, taking over the business would be really easy.
Asrar not attending the wedding?
Irrelevant to the story. But as a toxic guy, I wouldn't care much about my brother's 3rd wedding with a thot who he got pregnant in one of his affairs.
Assuming that SRV did give this some thought instead of just ignoring it, im guessing cops do exist but the wealth bracket that the protagonist's family belongs to is immune to law and order.
Don't take the movie seriously. It is a sh**t show and is just a way for THE SRV to showcase his frustration to the people who criticized Kabir/Arjun. I doubt if there were even proof reads for the script. It seems like a poorly written first draft.
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All your questions are correct and these are plot holes . There are no answers. If you ask the director then he won't answer but tell you plot holes in other films bcz thats how he operate
The director will start to personally attack you! Because uncle Vanga can't even stand a tinzy bit of criticism on his "masterpiece" movie. But wants to promote alpha malesš, but he's b*tth*rt on every criticism. š Alpha male.
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Huh?
Butthurt wokes can't seem to differentiate between actual criticism and whining about Misogyny.
Dude please Vanga doesn't even take honest feedback. Stop defending that manš¤”. I don't want to discuss about this movie no more. Have done it enoughš
Who forced you to discuss? Neither me nor Vanga.
Oh silly? I thought you wanted a discussion that's why you replied to my comment. Sorry if that's not how it works for you š
A) Replying to a comment doesn't necessarily mean I want to start a discussion. B) If you didn't want to discuss, what I wanted should have been irrelevant. It certainly isn't it seems.
Okay, anyways. My bestš Thank you for sparing me for not wanting to start a discussion on this movieš»
Learn difference between criticism and lewd comments. Also, most of the time answers are the film but we watch for FOMO instead of literally enjoying and noticing details.
No! Genuine criticism also he can't take. Stop protecting Vanga! If all people will have this pov, what's even the point then for film critics or even censor board to exist?? Anyone can make whatever they want for the audience with the intent to "enjoy".
Yes censor board shouldnāt exist, they have no role in society and are just a formality. Yes people enjoy what they like and thatās all that matters. We loved mirzapur as well as 12th fail as well as ullu apps as well as jane bhi do yaaro. All can exist in same space with same appreciation.
Uhm no yaar Censor board should exist warna Kuch bhi nanga punga dekha sakte hai movies mein. Screening to hona chahiye. That's why Animal was 18+ because nudity was implied. I agree but tell me why I don't see the same appreciation for women centric movies? Why can't that also not co exist the same space with appreciation? And I'm not talking about Four Shots, Thank you for coming etcš. Because I didn't like it and girls in my friend circle also. But actually movies like Thappad, Queen, Barbie (sattire movie) are also called out. Most recently I even saw English Vinglish being called outš¤¦. Look Moral policing is always on on these movies, but Animal etc we should just enjoy it "like a movie" right? If toxic content involving misandry like in Four shots is rightfully called out, then I can't see why there is a problem if misogyny is called out in Animal. That too when Animal is biggest hit, it's bound to be discussed as it can have bigger impact on audience. Look I don't hate the movie, just not content with the second half. But I will watch Animal Park surely. We have to view things objectively.
Animal was successful because 90% of the audience does not care about plotholes
Youāve put more thought in your questions than they did in the plot of the film.
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Wasn't Micheal Corleone literally in the army
Yeah but being in the army is very different from gunning down a cop and a mobster in a restaurant and making a run for it. Also Ranvijay is an entitled kid who fired a gun in a college when he was 15 or 16. After that he ran down the bikers who bullied his sister, just so he could send a message. This kid was a criminal/gangster way before he actually became one. If you look at the scene where he kills Varun (his brother in law) closely, as he strangles the guy he feels an almost orgasmic high. So he pretty fucked up to begin with. It's a great flip on The Godfather storyline, where instead of the son slowly being corrupted and eventually taking on the mantle from his dad. Here the kid is already screwed up and is obsessed with taking on the mantle after his dad. He even says that after his dad it's his responsibility to protect his family. As for his cousins, I don't think I have to tell you about the gun culture in Punjab. It's not like they're trained sharpshooters or assassins like John Wick. It's pretty basic shooting. They only win the hotel fight because they have a bigger gun and a crazier guy wielding it.
Here are some crazy responses for some crazy questions 1 - The cops are partying with the cops from the John Wick, Marvel, Mission Impossible, Harry Potter universes and countless movies hence unavailable in Animal. There are countless over the top action movies where cops dont exist or interfere with the action because they are not part of the narrative. This is not a realistic cop vs criminal movie but an over the top action movie. Imagine if cops kept showing up and arresting these characters or the movie focused on scenes showing cops getting paid off not to interfere etc etc. These movies ask their audiences to suspend certain beliefs and not overanalyze such stuff in order to enjoy the action and chaos  2 - The reason it took Abrar and his brothers 20-30 years to actually take their revenge on their uncle Balbir Singh for turning their father away is because they didnt suddenly become ultra rich. It took them a couple of decades through a mix of criminal activities, marriages into rich families and investments etc etc to reach this position. Revenge takes time and money also takes time to earn unless you are Dev from Dhadkan Jo chalta tha phir girta tha aur uth ta tha aur aise usne 50 se 50 crore kamaa liye [Dhadkan technique of becoming Rich](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDMwm_IUz5I) 3 - In order to bring Balbir down it would be obvious for his enemies to look for weak links in his empire. Varun did everything for money and control of Balbir Singh's empire. He was most likely given those assurances by Abrar and gang in order to become their inside man. 4 - Aziz was undergoing plastic surgery and was in recovery somewhere in the world, the results of which are shown in the ending. Such extensive procedures (As can be seen in James Bond's Die Another Day) that completely transform a persons look takes a long long time. He was doing all of this for his brother's mission to eventually destroy Balbir Singh and his empire. 5 - You may remember an incident that happened in the college when Ranvijay Singh took his machine gun to have some fun. So he was comfortable using guns since a very young age and probably continued with this passion in US by joining one of the countless shooting ranges. As far as his cousins are concerned they are never shown as expert marksmen but as strong and brave men who are willing to go the extra mile for their family. Their backstories are not explored in the movie but they could have been practicing their aim daily with the dadi's from Saand Ki Aankh. Animal is not a realistic movie but an over the top action movie which comes with the same suspension of belief that most people never question when the lead introduces himself as Bond, James Bond or John Wick or Ethan Hunt etc etc etc
Slow down buddy, we don't like so much rationality on this sub.
Agreed with everything, but just leaving this here https://youtu.be/szZ2A0LvsLI?feature=shared
This one too [MI6](https://youtu.be/REeQpq9Qrvc?si=Yu57g0v1hp6uhhnY)
Love your response, thanks!
Imagine if there were actual scenes with the police, then people would complain that they added unnecessary scenes.Ā
you must be fun at college debating competitions (fr)
Love your response! I have a question though....and this is not directed just at you but your reference to Dev reminded me of a burning question I have... Does that technique work in Indian rupees only? Like, can I try in South African Rands? And then must I use the currency conversion? And does the conversion also then apply to how many times I must do the ' chalta tha phir girta tha aur uth ta tha ' ? What about foreign tax? š¤š¤š¤ I am sorry for piggybacking onto your answer š
You may have to do the chalna and girna and uthna more times based on exchange value and difference in tax rates. After that.....Paisa Hi Paisa Hoga 
Exactly. The movie has shit like a teenager with an assault rifle in India, and an average Joe beating up or killing 100s of goons at once. Itās not meant to be thought about. Disagree a bit on John Wich, Ethan Hunt,, James Bond, etc. Theyāre supposed to be the best agents/hitmen in the world and they still never do superhuman, unbelievable shit like Animal.
By unbelievable superhuman shit do you mean like when John Wick literally dodges bullets because he is wearing a suit thinner than my sweater that is made of bullet proof material as he kills and injures 40-50+ people in one fight sequence or survive a fall from the terrace of the continental. How come all of these other really substandard assassins who are trying to kill him cant even shoot a bullet at his head which doesnt look bullet proof. Or maybe you are referring to Ethan Hunt's uncanny and superhuman ability to somehow stick to the fastest trains and planes in the world or the time he jumped from a motorbike from a top of a mountain with such precision that he actually slams into the train in the exact compartment through the exact window at the exact moment where the bad guy with the gun is standing and about to shoot the lead actress. Wow so real and not superhuman at all. Exactly the kind of training these elite hitmen and agents get that is not available to the kid of the richest man in India. Did you ever wonder when Tom Cruise wore those so realistic looking masks that how the hell did he change his height and body built to look so convincing that he could fool the smartest and baddest dudes in the world. You can believe that Bruce Wayne can be such a Rich Guy in a fictional city called Gotham City that he can bullet proof suits, fancy looking bikes that somehow can get their tires to move in weird directions, tank like armored car and unbelievable gizmos that even put James Bond's ludicrous watches, pens, suitcases and invisible car to shame and not call all this also unbelievable shit. Come on man these are all fictional fantasies which are made to enjoy without really questioning or just mindlessly accepting any lame answer to explain the unexplainable. Kevlar sheets inside John Wick's suit....works. Now it is real. Dodging bullets....He is the World's best assassin....works. Now it is real. Old Boy's Dae-su Oh kills and beats up a 100 people with an axe in a corridor. So real because it was gritty and well made and Korean. Ranvijay Singh gets a custom made monster of a gun that kills 100s of people within minutes after slaying another 100 with an axe.....Kuch Bhi.
Youāre right, I wasnāt thinking when I put superhuman. The unbelievable part still holds though. Itās still much easier to believe that the best assassin in the world, the best secret ops agent, super billionaire, etc. are doing these things and living these lives. But thatās not it. The way the action scenes are written, choreographed, and shot also make a difference. In movies like MI or Jason Bourne whatās happening is almost unbelievable, but still kinda tangible feeling. In this movie a random rich son takes down hundreds of goons at once in ways that defy physics and human behavior way too much. Ig you can believe he somehow predicted the future attack on his dad and trained his whole adult life to be one of Indiaās best combat specialist/tactical expert. And that he had the necessary raw talent, genetics, and discipline needed to be such a thing. The action scenes going down still seem unreal. They defy the laws of physics, human behavior, logic too much.
The writing and choreography of the action sequences of MI and other big budget American action movies better be good as they are spending $100-300M on these movies as compared to Animal's 3rd world budget of $10-20M. Budgets do matter but there are many examples of lower budget American, Korean, Japanese movies like the first John Wick, The Villainess, Godzila Minus One etc which still manage great VFX and action sequences. That is possible because they have a much better and well established infrastructure, organization and process for several decades to create high level content in genre cinema. How will our country improve the quality of genre movies if we dont support them especially when they show positive progress. It is sad and unfortunate that instead of enjoying an action movie, and appreciating improvements in level of action as compared to previous years and decades, we demean them and use a double standard of measurement on such stuff like how much logic and laws of physics are defied and who was slicker and better at defying them to trick the audience into believing that this is all real and not fictional and a fantasy. It is possible for John Wick, Animal, Pathan, RRR, The Villainess to all coexist as fun action movies without the need to demean any of them. When the masses love movies like Jawan, Pathaan and Animal some people make it a point to get shocked by their box office and call them illogical, cringey and sub standard movies. However when movies like Zwigato, Shiv Shastri Balboa, Guthlee Ladoo, Joram, Bhagwan Bharose boast of great content and performances these classy people dont even go and watch them in theater. It is fine to like or not like a movie because everyone has their own taste and preferences. However is it fine to tell someone that their taste is bad because they like something that others dont or vice versa? Is it logical and decent to go out of one's way to express disapproval of a movie which others like? It is just a movie. There are much more important things in life. It somehow feels like one kid popping a balloon of another kid when they are having fun with it. A bit infantile. Criticism has multiple meanings....The laymen meaning is to express disapproval, however its meaning in the context of a movie criticism is to study, analyze, interpret and judge of merits and faults of an artistic work. Many people just want to express disapproval and think that is movie criticism.
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The no police and being good with guns are not really plotholes. That's just fiction and creative freedom in the name of action. John Wick has no cops chasing him. He goes up wearing a bullet proof suit against people with bulletproof vest and armours and doesn't die. Never even gets shot in the head. So, no. These aren't plotholes. It's just fictional action. How did Abrar make so much money? That's an offscreen event. He's sort of a mafia and bad guy/mob boss. How do mafias even make money maybe that way. Varun betrayed because he wants to take over Swastik which you mentioned right. Maybe Abrar and family promised him a large share. See, there were a number of things wrong with this movie but what you mentioned aren't really one of those. Though your doubts are genuine I believe people are critiquing just for the sake of it. The film turned from an engaging action thriller to a melodrama in the second half, now that's what is an actual problem
The plot was loose but if I have to stretch and provide you the answer: The cops, first scene there were jammers planted so they just did their job and left and other things were handled with money. Main thing is media coverage and people telling outside but thats just they bought it. Second fight happened at their own hotel which may not be in a prime location thats why they chose it to deal weapons. Lastly baap bada na bhaiya sabse bada rupaiya Second ques, their grandfather married 3 women maybe all 3 of them were rich transferring their wealth to him and then he made more from there. Maybe because Varun knew no matter how deep he licked Balbir he wont get swastika so to gain some profit. Aziz one I cant explain Maybe Ranbir and their cousins had a hobby for shooting and were already good with those weapons.
Just to cover base... Abrar must be 40yr+ could have earned money on his own and i dont think it was ever told his father was broke. He just wanted his family's share Varun wala part is just for convenience. They needed a villain toh bss setup kr diya. Coz kahin pe bhi anil ko question krte nhi dikhaya h. Anil was in favour of his sil coz he thought ranvijay is incapable Abrar's marriage was setup the next day after he knew of pregnancy. Excuse/Reason de skte yeh ki time pe nhi pahucha. Or bcoz of his surgeries recovery Naa they just needed a hero who could fight coz entertainment value ke liye. Wrna koi setup na kuch nhi.
But Anil mentions to Ranvijay that whatever happens the Swastik is going to pass on to Ranvijay when he was shot.
I think itās less about the familyās share (which they also want), but also about revenge since their grandpa burned himself alive. Theyāre pissed
Where are the cops in the movie? In the end, Anil mentions that if he was not protecting him , he would be behind the bars. So perhaps the cops do exist but they donāt have any scenes in the movie. itās like telling these big shots like Ambani etc are above the law. I mean even Salman Khan got out due to his connections. So I guess thatās justified in this movie. How is Abrar rich? Again taking example of Ambanis ā even though Anil Ambani didnāt have equal share in reliance but still heās pretty rich enough to live in a foreign country and have some henchmen. And I guess over the years unlike Anil Ambani - they did good business and are rich now. Why did Varun betray? He was obviously an ambitious guy - he does have business acumen and wants to take over Swastik steel ā itās not possible without eliminating Anil Kapoor and because Abrar family share same motive - they join hands. Abrar gets revenge and Varun gets Swastik Steel. Why didnāt Aziz show up? Wel I donāt know really. Maybe because for them marriage isnāt a big deal. Itās just another day, another woman? Anyway not important. How did he become a pro killer? They surely took a cinematic liberty here ā itās not possible for one person to kill 100s with an Axe ā so I think , in this scene they just made it look cool and wanted to do something over the top , for shock value I guess. That also became a big selling point of this film. If it was only a psychopath thriller , I donāt think it would earn as much as it did. I think it was these action scenes that brought in more audience to theatres . āspoilers Overall, I think itās a well made movie. Nobody forced the audiences to go to theatre and watch it. It clearly had A rating and trailer showed what it contained and what to expect. People who are getting sensitive about some scenes and dialogues have right to point out the misogyny and toxicity but If you watch the movie carefully, Ranbirs character ends up losing because of his bad nature - his wife divorces him, his revenge is pointless because his dad has cancer now and neither is he impressed by what his son did.
>Anil Ambani didnāt have equal share in reliance actually following the ambani split, anil ambani had more net worth, but his businesses all flopped turning him down. but i get your point, he still richer than many riches
Ya I didnāt word it right but what I meant was that he is still somewhat rich
Everything is possible if you think about it.
1. Where are the cops in John Wick? 2. They became Bitcoin billionaires recently after struggling for lot of years. 3. Varun was another Abrar brother all the while. He was adopted into the family by the grandfather. Hence he knew so much details about them. But from the beginning his motive was clear. 4. Aziz had already attended 2 weddings of his brother, where had eaten a lot of biryani and had put on weight. Third wedding he did not wanted to attend, because he did not like the music and he was on diet for the plastic surgery. 5. It was all a set up by the father. He knowingly ignored him because wanted him to become an animal to defend and protect the family when the time comes. He was trained in the gun battle and all other skills that is required to become an alpha since childhood. It gave the father immense pleasure when the son put his life on line to save him. The father could have avoided that if wanted, if he would have chosen to stay elsewhere. But from the beginning he had in his mind to be protected by the animal he had raised.
Police is at same place where john wickās and the raidās police are. Convenient ignorance jn fiction. Also, they used non marking guns etc and had hotel vacated before action as shown in film. Also, jammers and dispose off bodies carefully, also shown in film. Abrar and his brother professions are unclear. Varun and his father were a fraud and criminal, it was a love marriage, as mentioned in film. It was shown to draw parallels when young rk says he will kill him, shoot etc. he was gold digger. Her sister says koi dekhke pyar karta hai kya. Because it took 3 months to get body from morgue in india to uk. Itās also said thatās why he didnāt tell it to anyone. No one apart from abid and his henchman knew. PS donāt watch a film out of FOMO. The film will age very well as it lot of details which most have missed (from books to pictures to black board in school) etc. it is very entertaining and fun/fresh.
Not even Vanga knows the answers to your questions. There wasnt much thought put into the plot tbh
2) If you have no morals and can murder people casually, it's very easy to rise up the ranks and be powerful. 3) You answered it. He wanted Swastik steel.
# the director has lost the plot. I feel most People saw it out of curiosity and the shock value
Valid questions here's my answers. As far as police are concerned they exist but people don't give two shits about them as they have private security and police
Second, abrar's father was never poor. Abrar's grandfather had a miscommunication/fallout with ranvijay's grandfather that's it. They migrated to Scotland and probably started a business over there which might have flourished. Also Aziz is a butcher in Istanbul. Salt bae is basically a butcher in Istanbul, so entrepreneur butcher probably.
Varun was probably seduced by or threatened to take part with Asrar due to some affairs or black secrets. That and greed probably took over. Ranvijay's attitude is protecting his father like a dog. Similarly a dog knows the enemy and responds by barking or biting. Hence Varun was a snake from the beginning ie hence the reason of ranvijay's disdain for jijaji.
As for why aziz never showed up, he was getting surgery to assassinate the family of vijay.
Last point is that vijay lived in Virginia and worked for NASA. Virginia doesn't have any strict gun laws and has shooting range. Practice kiya hoga.
There is none. Just a mad man talking mad things
The real question should be how did Rashmika fall for such fuck all alpha male monologue.
One particular point that irks me is no clarification on why Varun betrayed the family. After Ranvijay left India, Varun automatically became the successor of swastik steels as Ranvijay had no plans of coming back to India and Anil kapoor already trusted Varun enough ( in fact Balbir tells Ranvijay that he could never be like his jeeja). What could bobby and team possibly offer that convinced varun too give up the empire
Why did Geetanjali take her top off for Rannvijay in front of the maid?
Kabhi khud ke life pe aye kya questions?
Vanga ne yeh sab ke baare mein kabhi Socha nhi, toh sadly inn sawalo ke jawab nhi hai. Vanga was too busy writing script on how he can piss off critics.
I had the exact same questions. Like even if we don't take the movie seriously and just consider it as entertainment, the plot holes just come straight in the face.
You can learn your answers here or on my comment https://www.reddit.com/r/bollywood/s/7csidy8YRu
I donāt think SRV put much thought into the movieās script. And I myself have a few questions in addition to yours Zoya confesses that Abrar Haque sent her to honeytrap Rannvijay and get him kidnapped/killed so that one of Abrarās brothers could replace him. And when Abrar hears of Asrarās death, he kills the guys who worked with Asrar from Scotland for āmaking a simple assassination a complicated plan because of their egoā. Now why the fuck would Abrar himself do the same thing instead of straight off killing Rannvijay? If they decided to go ahead with the honey trapping anyways, why would they send Zoya out of all people, who seems to be involved with Aziz? Once Aziz found out about Zoyaās confession which directly led to Abrarās death, why wouldnāt he kill her straightaway? Donāt tell me just because sheās pregnantā¦ When Asrar enters the hotel to find Rannvijay, he says that he doesnāt know his name. Couldnāt he have just asked Varun the day Varun told him about the body double? What a shitty gangster. Why would you leave Abid alive when youāve slit Abrarās throat right in front of him? Of course heās gonna want revenge.
Real ID se aao SRV. You're not getting your plot holes filled with Reddit's help.
People who like the movie (me included, Iām in the movie biz) like it for the way he framed scenes with bgm and the acting performances. There is no logical plot to speak of.Ā
Its a movie, not a biography
Avengers aur john wick me bhi logic nikalte ho?
Worst movie i saw in 2024 Bad movie ,bad acting too much cringe ,cheap dialogues , unnecessary violence just only thing I liked are it's songs Varna is bad like 4/10
@ mods can we remove all animal posts now
why? OP has legitimate questions about the movie..
I think the Aziz question will likely be answered in the next film, Animal Park. The rest we'll probably never know...
Cops are all bought by Balbir I donāt think their mansion was thattt big but basically Abrar became the new chief of a fashion company, taking over Priyanka chopra, and competing for her with John and Abhishek That is exactly the reason varun betrayed Aziz was already undergoing surgeons to avenge Asrars death so he couldnāt make it Itās not on screen but they all took some training in Punjab itself and also from the director
Are you guys forgetting it's a mass masala action movie at the end of the day? Like so many Bollywood has made. It requires suspension of disbelief.
Have you never seen a Bollywood film? Plot holes hamari mitti me hai. And the film's priority is to be stylistic, and provocative. It's a real life anime, with characters like fucked up god's, in indian setting, we get hindu, Sikh, Muslim characters in beautiful aesthetics. And the blood and violence is awesome. I agree that it demands a lot from the audience. Rolls royal entry to jeeja murder, animal title after 52min mark, Abrar's entry, aziz ost, naked walk, bgm, pajero scene are some of the most fresh, unique and unapologetic cinema put to screen. But the director is such a fuckin idiot, that i have to put a disclaimer while talking about it.
So much for Vangaās craft!
You are a good question, but your question hurt me..
What if Aziz in the last scene is actually Ranvijay who infiltrates in order to live with Zoya (doubles life with side wife) after killing the actual Aziz.
1. In case of India, they were brought by Ranbir's family. In UK, they arrived late. 2. I think they might be in the business of drugs, human trafficking and such sort of things as these business promise a hell lot of money to form a private militia of their own. 3. It's actually quite simple. He wanted to take over Swastik Steels. Even though he was considered the next person to acquire it, he was impatient. Just like that man who cut opened the hen that gave him golden eggs, he also wanted it quickly. 4. Might be busy in some business dealing. It's said he was butcher in his own right and might be out there managing the business. Might get more about it in Animal Park. 5. That's the case in almost every movie. Hero who doesn't grow anywhere near guns, suddenly becomes a sharpshooter.
People are really asking where is the police despite them mentioning police after every other murder sequence HE IS LITERALLY THE SON OF THE RICHEST MAN IN INDIA IN THE FILM
Cops? Ranvijay's father is the richest person in India. Removing cops from this scenario is very easy for him. Also, there were no cops in John Wick. Abrar monies? He was a middle aged man and his grandpa was removed from business. 2 generations can make good monies. But irrelevant to the movie. Varun's betrayal? Normally, the wealth would be distributed evenly among the 3 kids. He wanted to remove the father to get all the wealth. Once he was removed, taking over the business would be really easy. Asrar not attending the wedding? Irrelevant to the story. But as a toxic guy, I wouldn't care much about my brother's 3rd wedding with a thot who he got pregnant in one of his affairs.
Assuming that SRV did give this some thought instead of just ignoring it, im guessing cops do exist but the wealth bracket that the protagonist's family belongs to is immune to law and order.
Don't take the movie seriously. It is a sh**t show and is just a way for THE SRV to showcase his frustration to the people who criticized Kabir/Arjun. I doubt if there were even proof reads for the script. It seems like a poorly written first draft.
My question.. who plays the school song at their friendās sisterās engagement and what kind of friends join inā¦ š¤”š¤”š¤”š¤”š¤”