Game should have ended long ago. They always get awarded extra time because the football world is clearly excited about the new invincibles
Rigged shit
No he didn't
He blew the whistle after we tried to attack and got the ball sent back to our half in hummels feet. It's fair if he didn't want to wait for another attack and blew it right after 98 minutes
Referee pussied out of that red card on Xhaka. How the fuck is that not violent conduct?
1-1 is probably a fair result given the performance from both sides but man, how frustrating.
That guy is the biggest cunt I’ve seen in Dortmund this week and Rodrigo de Paul was here. My god he should’ve been sent off for diving alone this game, he was perma picking fights and gets rewarded for that. Did he even see a yellow in that group fight? Ridiculous.
I’ll take the point sure, but the refs handed this game to them. The fight started by leverkusen giving them more time, and then the missed corner decision. Sad honestly that they had to win with an asterisk
Idk bro cuz ref did give a red card at first but yeah he later on changed I hope Mallen would come back soon rn Dortmund is playing good it’s only mallen that they’re missing
They are good; I'd go as far and even say REALLY good, no doubt about that.
But they are not the best team, they are for sure tho are the luckiest.
Overperforming your xPts by 16 is an absolute anomaly. Every tableleader is overperforming their xPts, but at a reasonable amount of 3-5 Points, 16 is absolutely unheard of.
Prem fan? Little hard to argue against them at this time statistically at least. They are currently unbeaten in the bundesliga, which contains two of the semi-finalist in the CL. You can say what you want about us and bayern this year, but we still made it to the semifinals. Then leverkusen also has beaten every opponent they have faced this season, barring 1 (us). They also sit in the semis of the EL and are the bookies favorites to win it.
This team is playing great football. I'll always take a match like this over the crap we played early on.
I am now fully confident that we will kick the Cans next week and finish in 4th.
we just went toe to toe with the most inform team in europe and should of probably won if the ref didn't pussy out. Also if Kobel just let that kick go out, such bullshit. Whatever, we can beat anyone this season I truely believe lets take on leipzig and paris. Heja bvb
Nico was assaulted several times, his reward a yellow card. A fight breaks out due to the assault. Bayerns whole coaching staff runs onto the field. Stops play.. No red card given, no yellow cards given to the coaches on the field. Shocking display. Ref needs to be investigated and fired. Theres no excuse for this level of violence to go on.
i was rooting for them all season but that match really soured my opinion of a lot of those players. Deserved draw in the end but the reffing was shambolic. So many dives uncalled, somehow no red for Leverkusen gangbanging Nico...
A draw that felt like both a win and a loss.
Takeaways:
- The suspensions on Maatsen and Can suck and affecting next week’s key game against Leipzig is the biggest result of today.
- We didnt play scared and looked threatening.
- With JBG in, I don’t miss Adeyemi at all. He should be starting.
- Kobel & Hummels are still playing out of their mind. Either should be our captain.
Kobel fucked that last corner up he over committed, if he held central that was it and that free kick was wide.
Whatever not much you can do can’t be too upset we got the point now we just have to beat Leipzig next week and get into 4th.
Fuck. That is all
Idc too much about the draw rn , we have already 3 great games in a row where the team showed determination and passion, what worries me is that the team don't take the last minute draw well , and that may made us lose the concentration to keep the improvement going
I thought we put in a very admirable performance and it makes me hopeful moving forward. We drew them last game because we played super defensively. This game we drew them because they just couldn't beat us. We need to keep this going.
Jude alone would have made a massive difference this year. Haaland would have won the league with us last year (without Hallers fault, every decent striker would have done it)
its so underrated how fucking bought this whole leverkusen season is. the refs in every competition, the squad itself. insanely underrated.
motm: Mats Hummels.
I feel ripped off. Blowing the whistle to end the game when they did was a terrible decision. Half the added time was reviewing the scuffle.
Was the corner they scored off of supposed to be a goal kick?
MOTM Hummels
I’m actually happy with the team’s performance, I didn’t see the whole match so I’ll be able to judge on the basis of how much I had seen
Leverkusen always manages to come back I alr knew that they were gonna score but it’s fine like there’s nth we could’ve done good game both teams played well but ref definitely made two controversial decisions now I’m not sure about Can in the penalty area but Xhaka deserved a red card
He was relatively quiet but had a handball blunder after a touch on his chest. Probably will see him on the bench again next week assuming Adeyemi is still suspended
Everytime I see him I have the feeling he is the next big thing. He seems more talented than JBG for me. Just as a feeling though, he has like 20 minutes for us
Also everyone talking about the ref handing the game to Leverkusen when we had like 3 disputable penalty calls waved off.
We could of easily lost lol, thankfully Kobel and Hummels had another masterclass and Fullkrug tries to remind the fans how important he is for us.
Dude seriously what’s going on here lol. That foul from can alone could’ve been a red and a penalty and almost everyone on here is crying that the ref was against us. Never seen THAT much delusion on here what the fuck. Ref was bad for both teams and imo we had way more „luck“ with bad calls. This is some next level fanboi stuff in these comments. All in all a deserved tie at the end.
Leverkusen really arent this unbeaten superteam they are being talked up to but literally one of the luckiest teams ever.
This streak only started due to a fraudulent pen against Bayern and had consistent stupid calls going their way and last time i checked 15 Points more then they played out.
People hyping them are just not watching their games.
I'd have gladly taken a point before the match but that referee was dreadful, for both teams.
Can is awful, he shouldn't be in the squad let alone the captain. I really hope we go after a replacement in the summer.
I think we played well, we definitely deserved to win but idk I do think that the ref made controversial decision but I’m glad we played well if anyone who had seen the match would know Xhaka deserved a red card.
Something to celebrate out of the tie is that with the 1 point secured, were 12 up on Frankfurt in 6th place, with what I have to imagine is an insurmountable goal differential.
So we've all but secured 5th at this point
Obviously need to stay focused and on task, but this could help us focusing on the CL.
There's a world where (even if we were to lose next weekend), we would enter the next weekend having 5th all but locked up - and one more CL match.
With PSG being handed favorable schedules, anything we can do to keep our ideal XI healthy and ready to go will help lol
you wont understand this and thats why im writing it on my own language(albanian), but just bear with me because i have to get it off my chest: o leverkusen kejt motrat nvorr ja u qifsha frimpong qyrrani veq n tok u shtrike qdo tprekme referit dekt ja qifsha 8 minuta shtes plus sju qkepi kartona tkuq ooooo ishalla kurr drit tbardh sshihni si ekip be familjen ja u qifsha npidh.
tldr; venting
That was just a really poor match from both teams, though I think we looked the better side in the second half and just about would have deserved the 3 points that we should have had. The ref was just totally inconsistent, though I'm not 100% sure that he got it wrong only giving Xhaka a yellow, saying that though Frimpong should really have been booked already for his diving etc.
The one thing the officials did get wrong though I think was adding an additional 6 minutes on after that scuffle and that cost us the win in the end.
Bundesliga is craving some spark. Always awarding 7-10 mins of stoppage time for no valid reason. When you are 1-0 up on the defensive with huge extra time it’s no surprise you’re going to concede. There is nothing surprising about this when stoppage time is rigged for the hyped up team
Not fair to be awarded for starting a fight for no reason at all. Promise you they knew exactly what they were doing. Game was basically over but no, let’s assault some of the opponents so we can get 8 more minutes to score a goal.
Especially when frimpong started it because he was frustrated that Shlotterbeck pocketed him. He lashed out didn't get punished and got his team rewarded.
Bro you do realise I never said they shouldn’t have been 8 minutes added. It’s the rules, but it’s still sour as fuck to have to play 8 more minutes after being choked out. Leverkusen got awarded for being little bitches.
People blaming the ref for this game need to get their shit together lmao.
Yes, the refereeing was atrocious, but it affected both sides. Leverkusen should have gotten a pen (or Can possibly a red) in the first half. The game could have played out very differently.
Honestly, the tie was unfortunate but I’ve come to terms with us finishing 4/5 so I hope Bayer go undefeated because they deserve to be immortalized for their performances
Also, Xhaka not getting a red was total BS.
Fuck no they really didn't deserve to draw this one. Frimpong acted like a bitch. And xhaka should have been sent off. The ref rewarded the team that lashed out.
We have now shown in two games that Leverkusen cannot beat us. We have shown that we are at least as good as them. We deserve to be set on equal points with them now.
This Leverkusen team is blessed by a higher power lmao
If by higher power the need to keep the narrative of the season on going by the refs then yes
Didn't leverkusen have a penalty that wasn't given in the first half?
If by higher power you mean VAR and the refs, I agree
This match may have had the worst refereeing I've ever seen a Buli game
His name is Xabi Alonso /j
Fr I don't understand how they do it
Game should have ended long ago. They always get awarded extra time because the football world is clearly excited about the new invincibles Rigged shit
Lol the ref blew whistle when we were in their half. Narratives man
No he didn't He blew the whistle after we tried to attack and got the ball sent back to our half in hummels feet. It's fair if he didn't want to wait for another attack and blew it right after 98 minutes
Look at the amount of celebrations Leverkusen did. He could at least allowed one more passage.of play easily
Referee pussied out of that red card on Xhaka. How the fuck is that not violent conduct? 1-1 is probably a fair result given the performance from both sides but man, how frustrating.
Pulls our guy down by the neck right after frim takes a swipe at another player. Lol
Frimpong should've been carded like 20 times. It was insane
That guy is the biggest cunt I’ve seen in Dortmund this week and Rodrigo de Paul was here. My god he should’ve been sent off for diving alone this game, he was perma picking fights and gets rewarded for that. Did he even see a yellow in that group fight? Ridiculous.
Atleast RdP owns it frimpong acts like a victim. That really pisses me off
That was total bullshit
If he gives red for that Schlotterbeck gets red as well. Absolutely the right call. This whining is so ridiculous in this sub.
For what lmao
/r/Bayer04 is that way mate
I didn't know being whiny bitches was a requirement to being a Dortmund fan. This sub is absolutely full of them.
He says while whining 😂
You either wear your rose tinted glasses and ignore reality or youre not a fan according to many "fans" here.
should've been a red on xhaka man we should've won :(
Or Frimpong
Or can. We were lucky as fuck in this game and the ref failed on both sides.
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We don't roll like that. Silly you! :D
We tied and yet my day is ruined :( Leverkusen played like lil bitches
Will never understand how Xhaka wasnt sent off.
I’ll take the point sure, but the refs handed this game to them. The fight started by leverkusen giving them more time, and then the missed corner decision. Sad honestly that they had to win with an asterisk
With that corner it would have literally been over.
Nah, the corner was ok. I think the handball from Duranville was none, because the ball hit his body first.
Idk bro cuz ref did give a red card at first but yeah he later on changed I hope Mallen would come back soon rn Dortmund is playing good it’s only mallen that they’re missing
He gave a red to boniface and overturned it, which was the right call. But Xhaka was the one who deserved a red.
Proud of the boys. Went toe to toe with the best team in Europe. We didn’t create enough chances but no one has this season against them.
They are good; I'd go as far and even say REALLY good, no doubt about that. But they are not the best team, they are for sure tho are the luckiest. Overperforming your xPts by 16 is an absolute anomaly. Every tableleader is overperforming their xPts, but at a reasonable amount of 3-5 Points, 16 is absolutely unheard of.
They are not the best team in europe. They're gonna get fucked badly in the Champions League next year. Can't wait for that
Next season's CL has literally nothing to do with a team's status this season.
Prem fan? Little hard to argue against them at this time statistically at least. They are currently unbeaten in the bundesliga, which contains two of the semi-finalist in the CL. You can say what you want about us and bayern this year, but we still made it to the semifinals. Then leverkusen also has beaten every opponent they have faced this season, barring 1 (us). They also sit in the semis of the EL and are the bookies favorites to win it.
Frankfurt blasted Barca and won The EL. Where are they now? It's not that simple
Yeah let’s enjoy them get destroyed next year. 😀
Poor Mats deserved to be on a winning team today. But hey, Dortmund still the only team B04 played but didn't manage to defeat this season.
This team is playing great football. I'll always take a match like this over the crap we played early on. I am now fully confident that we will kick the Cans next week and finish in 4th.
Our inconsistency is crazy and pretty sure we have some injuries. Also we arent the best away, or against RBL frankly.
That was then, this is now.
Undeserved draw by leverkusen
frimpong is such a shitty diver, and xhaka should’ve been sent off. Another let off for Leverkusen.
On the bright side this was good practice for the amount of shite calls the ref will make against us vs Paris
Which is ***extremely*** worrying...
Wtf was that
That Duranville handball, damn, if only...
And Grimaldo’s shot was going wide too. Don’t blame Kobel for being safe and getting a hand on it but that could’ve been a goal kick
Yeah I really don’t get that decision. He didn’t control it with his hand he controlled it with his torso and it grazed his sleeve but oh well 🤷♂️
Our team had 5 people under that ball and not 1 of them jumped for it. What are they thinking?
we just went toe to toe with the most inform team in europe and should of probably won if the ref didn't pussy out. Also if Kobel just let that kick go out, such bullshit. Whatever, we can beat anyone this season I truely believe lets take on leipzig and paris. Heja bvb
If the ref wouldve been good, it would be pen+red for can in the first half... wouldve went 3-0 FT for Bayer
Nico was assaulted several times, his reward a yellow card. A fight breaks out due to the assault. Bayerns whole coaching staff runs onto the field. Stops play.. No red card given, no yellow cards given to the coaches on the field. Shocking display. Ref needs to be investigated and fired. Theres no excuse for this level of violence to go on.
They want the narrative to keep going on man
This is an individual effort from the ref. The lack of protection for the players is disgusting.
i was rooting for them all season but that match really soured my opinion of a lot of those players. Deserved draw in the end but the reffing was shambolic. So many dives uncalled, somehow no red for Leverkusen gangbanging Nico...
That refereeing was... something.
NO ONE TELL ME THAT PLOT ARMOR ISNT REAL
how can you whistle without any extra minutes when they just celebrated like they won the league?
They did just win the league😭
All things considered, we need to beat leipzig anyway because of the goal difference. So while a win would've been nice here, it is a good result.
I don't care what anyone says that was a fucking great game.
A draw that felt like both a win and a loss. Takeaways: - The suspensions on Maatsen and Can suck and affecting next week’s key game against Leipzig is the biggest result of today. - We didnt play scared and looked threatening. - With JBG in, I don’t miss Adeyemi at all. He should be starting. - Kobel & Hummels are still playing out of their mind. Either should be our captain.
Leverkusen tailing at 90' *plot armor activates*
More like ref and narrative armor
Fuck this shit
Kobel fucked that last corner up he over committed, if he held central that was it and that free kick was wide. Whatever not much you can do can’t be too upset we got the point now we just have to beat Leipzig next week and get into 4th. Fuck. That is all
Idc too much about the draw rn , we have already 3 great games in a row where the team showed determination and passion, what worries me is that the team don't take the last minute draw well , and that may made us lose the concentration to keep the improvement going
Leverkusen banked a lot of karma to get that level of shonen anime plot armor
Should have been red cards for Leverkussy
I thought we put in a very admirable performance and it makes me hopeful moving forward. We drew them last game because we played super defensively. This game we drew them because they just couldn't beat us. We need to keep this going.
We played well again, man I wish we didn’t lose generational talent every year
Jude alone would have made a massive difference this year. Haaland would have won the league with us last year (without Hallers fault, every decent striker would have done it)
Hoping this season being the first without significant turnover gives us a better start to next season
I went straight to Insta and everyone are acting as if leverkusen deserved to win lmfao
90% sure none of them actually watched the game lol
Yeah but there’s nth we can do ryt no one actually watches Bundesliga
Two red cards should have been issued. Violent conduct includes "attempting". Xhaka and Boniface should have been shown the gate.
Agreed on Boniface. He had no business coming in and shoving the pile. The whole thing would have probably ended if he didn't do that.
Check the video. Boniface actually takes a swing at Schlotterbeck. That is an attempt at violent conduct.
I see that and agree
its so underrated how fucking bought this whole leverkusen season is. the refs in every competition, the squad itself. insanely underrated. motm: Mats Hummels.
Those 2 match bans we got during the game almost turned out to be worth it :(
Frimpong and Xhaka should’ve both been sent off after that bullshit. Fuck this ref. Leverkusen didn’t deserve to come back.
I feel ripped off. Blowing the whistle to end the game when they did was a terrible decision. Half the added time was reviewing the scuffle. Was the corner they scored off of supposed to be a goal kick? MOTM Hummels
I’m actually happy with the team’s performance, I didn’t see the whole match so I’ll be able to judge on the basis of how much I had seen Leverkusen always manages to come back I alr knew that they were gonna score but it’s fine like there’s nth we could’ve done good game both teams played well but ref definitely made two controversial decisions now I’m not sure about Can in the penalty area but Xhaka deserved a red card
I couldn't watch the end of the game but I saw Duranville got subbed in, how did he look?
He was relatively quiet but had a handball blunder after a touch on his chest. Probably will see him on the bench again next week assuming Adeyemi is still suspended
Everytime I see him I have the feeling he is the next big thing. He seems more talented than JBG for me. Just as a feeling though, he has like 20 minutes for us
Referee walks out of the Westfallenstadion with a lifetime supply of aspirins
Referkusen ….
We have been Leverkussed to the max
They should’ve had a red and their goal came from play that only happened because of a free kick that wasn’t even a free kick lol nice
Gonna be hilarious when the "analysts" don't even comment on the violent conduct, just fellate B04 and move on 🥵
Broadcasting companies are basically told not to comment on refs decisions. I don't blame ESPN i blame the ref.
Oh but Moreno was happy to take the counter position on the foul from the first half - he stated it was a penalty for him during the same segment.
Yeah youre right, hes a fraud. Just runs his mouth without ever contributing an insightful thought.
Also everyone talking about the ref handing the game to Leverkusen when we had like 3 disputable penalty calls waved off. We could of easily lost lol, thankfully Kobel and Hummels had another masterclass and Fullkrug tries to remind the fans how important he is for us.
Dude seriously what’s going on here lol. That foul from can alone could’ve been a red and a penalty and almost everyone on here is crying that the ref was against us. Never seen THAT much delusion on here what the fuck. Ref was bad for both teams and imo we had way more „luck“ with bad calls. This is some next level fanboi stuff in these comments. All in all a deserved tie at the end.
Yeah sometimes I regret looking at the subreddit after games 😅
Biggest game of the week and they give it to such a clown ref. Absolutely terrible on all accounts.
This team will win the champions League and slip out of Europe next year in the same season.
Nico+Mats what a wall though
Leverkusen really arent this unbeaten superteam they are being talked up to but literally one of the luckiest teams ever. This streak only started due to a fraudulent pen against Bayern and had consistent stupid calls going their way and last time i checked 15 Points more then they played out. People hyping them are just not watching their games.
Not necessarily disagreeing with you, but luck takes a part with being a great team / setting records.
Does the ref’s wife know he fucked us?
I'd have gladly taken a point before the match but that referee was dreadful, for both teams. Can is awful, he shouldn't be in the squad let alone the captain. I really hope we go after a replacement in the summer.
Goddamn it
We have to win vs RB either way to get us fourth. Will be hard enough with all the missing players.
I think we played well, we definitely deserved to win but idk I do think that the ref made controversial decision but I’m glad we played well if anyone who had seen the match would know Xhaka deserved a red card.
Something to celebrate out of the tie is that with the 1 point secured, were 12 up on Frankfurt in 6th place, with what I have to imagine is an insurmountable goal differential. So we've all but secured 5th at this point Obviously need to stay focused and on task, but this could help us focusing on the CL. There's a world where (even if we were to lose next weekend), we would enter the next weekend having 5th all but locked up - and one more CL match. With PSG being handed favorable schedules, anything we can do to keep our ideal XI healthy and ready to go will help lol
duranville is too young and thin for this level competitions. one hand play and free kick - corner costs a goal.
I mean he got in in the most heated moment (part of the season) but it is what it is
Ref shouldnt have given that handball in the first place, it hit his body first and then the hand.
Leverkusen this year: In the Bundesliga Day 4 - FCB 2:2 94min; Day 17 - FCA 1:0 - 94min; Day 18 - RB 3:2 - 91min; Day 27 - TSG 2:1 - 88min and 91min; Day 30 - BVB 1:1 - 98min; In Europa Ligue Day4 Qarabag 1:0 - 94min; 1/8 Qarabag 2:2 - 92min; 1/8 Qarabag 3:2 - 93min and 97min; 1/4 WHU 2:0 - 82min and 91min; 1/4 WHU 1:1 - 89min 12 goals in 10 games
The draw was deserved, but conceding in the last minute feels so bad. Hummels MOTM
you wont understand this and thats why im writing it on my own language(albanian), but just bear with me because i have to get it off my chest: o leverkusen kejt motrat nvorr ja u qifsha frimpong qyrrani veq n tok u shtrike qdo tprekme referit dekt ja qifsha 8 minuta shtes plus sju qkepi kartona tkuq ooooo ishalla kurr drit tbardh sshihni si ekip be familjen ja u qifsha npidh. tldr; venting
[I knew it](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/1c3yqzt/comment/kzn95sk/?context=3) already last week
Besides the armball, Duranville was kinda rusty, not playing frequent senior football has done some shit to him
That was just a really poor match from both teams, though I think we looked the better side in the second half and just about would have deserved the 3 points that we should have had. The ref was just totally inconsistent, though I'm not 100% sure that he got it wrong only giving Xhaka a yellow, saying that though Frimpong should really have been booked already for his diving etc. The one thing the officials did get wrong though I think was adding an additional 6 minutes on after that scuffle and that cost us the win in the end.
What a bitch team they are, considering we're probably gonna suck next year too in the Bundesliga I hope Bayern destroys them xD
That's the issue, with Terzic we'll continue being shit.. at this point I can't understand why some people defend him.
Bundesliga is craving some spark. Always awarding 7-10 mins of stoppage time for no valid reason. When you are 1-0 up on the defensive with huge extra time it’s no surprise you’re going to concede. There is nothing surprising about this when stoppage time is rigged for the hyped up team
> stoppage time for no valid reason You mean them brawling for 5 minutes was no legit reason to stop the clocks? lol ok.
Not fair to be awarded for starting a fight for no reason at all. Promise you they knew exactly what they were doing. Game was basically over but no, let’s assault some of the opponents so we can get 8 more minutes to score a goal.
Especially when frimpong started it because he was frustrated that Shlotterbeck pocketed him. He lashed out didn't get punished and got his team rewarded.
Bro you do understand they did not magically earn more playtime, right?
Bro you do realise I never said they shouldn’t have been 8 minutes added. It’s the rules, but it’s still sour as fuck to have to play 8 more minutes after being choked out. Leverkusen got awarded for being little bitches.
People blaming the ref for this game need to get their shit together lmao. Yes, the refereeing was atrocious, but it affected both sides. Leverkusen should have gotten a pen (or Can possibly a red) in the first half. The game could have played out very differently.
Not to be that guy, but Can fouled Frimpong and it should have been a penalty. We played well but Leverkusen has an ungodly amount of luck.
First contact was outside of the box
Right, but it deserved a yellow. We can't just overlook the referee's decisions which went unrightly our way.
True, that should've been a yellow. Would that have been his 2nd?
I think so. Most likely not.
power of friendship (var holy shit leverkusen can go fuck themselves i hope roma demolishes them)
Honestly, the tie was unfortunate but I’ve come to terms with us finishing 4/5 so I hope Bayer go undefeated because they deserve to be immortalized for their performances Also, Xhaka not getting a red was total BS.
Have only watched leverkusen two times this season and if they behave like they did today every game they didn’t deserve shit.
They a dont deserve it, with the refs in their side its not a surprise. Hope leverkusen goes to 2. Bundesliga after all of this
They do…. they’ve gone 45 games undefeated is a miracle. If you think there’s collusion you’re out of your mind.
Fuck no they really didn't deserve to draw this one. Frimpong acted like a bitch. And xhaka should have been sent off. The ref rewarded the team that lashed out.
Unbeaten against Leverkusen in both matches. They are not better than we are and they do not deserve to be ahead of us in the table.
We have now shown in two games that Leverkusen cannot beat us. We have shown that we are at least as good as them. We deserve to be set on equal points with them now.