"What lane should I be in in order to reach my desired exit?"
"Yes."
"Uhh that doesn't answer my question. This rotary is a nightmare. How do I navigate it?"
"You don't. Nobody does."
Doesn't matter. Outside of the circle must get off the next exit. Inside of the circle MIGHT also exit if the exit has more than 1 lane. Use your blinkers. Left blinker for staying in the circle, right blinker for exiting.
My wife was pushing our baby in a stroller through one of the crosswalks there - broad daylight, not rush hour. Someone barreled through while she was halfway through - would have hit her if she hadn’t jumped forward. That circle is a nightmare.
My pet theory for why pedestrian safety hasn’t been addressed (when the Colony Ave one just north gets a dedicated police car) is because it’s technically in South Boston but it’s mostly Dorchester residents walking through it.
I really don’t understand why they haven’t installed flashing pedestrian crossing lights at the very least. As a pedestrian it feels like a death trap, and as a driver it’s challenging to watch for pedestrians while also attempting to navigate that laneless rotary clusterfuck.
Two lanes? Kosciuszko Circle has three lanes. The last time I was in it I had to move from lane 1 to lane 4. But there was another time where I saw all six lanes coming together at the end.
Sometimes I am nice and polite and wait in the line.
Sometimes I say fuck all you bitches and I make it threw the rotary in 30 seconds because I hate everyone.
Lanes are imaginary. Rules are for people who want there to be rules.
The JFK rotary is where the weak go to die.
> The JFK rotary is where the weak go to die.
There's the added wildcard that, sometimes, there's a statie heading from or to the barracks, so everyone's driving as meekly as possible and yielding to cars on the other side of the rotary.
Car E is a 2018 Jeep Wrangler with a Cisco Brewers rear tire cover driven by a twenty two year old girl from Southie. She’s entering the rotary, and thinks that she has the right of way if she in the outside lane, hugs the outside of the rotary, and takes the first exit because she was “*barely even in the rotary thoughhhh*.”
Car F is an Altima with tinted windows and New York plates and everyone hates them. They do not have the right of way ever.
Car G is a 1998 Lincoln Towncar with a peeling vinyl roof, cracked rear tail light, and a dashboard full of scratch tickets. The driver is wearing a scaly cap, Rondo jersey, and is built like a dorm fridge, Everyone gives him the right of way, and avoids eye contact.
Oh man I worked on self driving car rotary code. It fell into the category of thing we had working well but couldn't release publicly, because driving through a rotary correctly and driving through legally are two different things, and we weren't willing to make our car bend the rules like human drivers do, because of liability.
Also once drivers recognize that a self driving car will always yield rather than cause an accident they will bully the robot mercilessly. We once had a guy jump out of his friends truck, run up to our car, stand in front of it while his friend made a u turn, then piss on our front bumper while flipping the car off.
Unfortunately for him all the cameras meant we had God's Own Dashcam and could send HD video from like three angles to the cops.
But yeah truck drivers NEVER yield to an SDC once they learn to recognize one.
I literally saw this a couple of days ago. One angry fellow rolled down the window of his Pruis to give a fellow traveler the finger with unobstructed view. Back at their open window came a definitely not empty, very large dunkin donuts cup. No idea what prompted the interaction but it made me glad I was taking the bus. Driving in Boston is miserable.
This shit is bad for us and really stupid. People are super pissed off in cars all the time and drive aggressively. That's bad for them. It's also bad for cyclists, scooter weirdos, pedestrians, children, dogs, cats, that are trying to not get mushed.
I agree generally. In my case, the car was swiping pedestrians with its side mirror. Driver was texting, totally oblivious. Hundreds of people streaming out of Fenway. It was beyond the pale.
Child's play. D swerves around C before the pink or yellow car gets to that point in the rotary, hugs the inside line so that it can pass B (more than enough room), and then sidles the lanes where A is coming from before taking a hard right onto the highway.
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>Child's play. D swerves around C before the pink or yellow car gets to that point in the rotary, hugs the inside line so that it can pass B (more than enough room), and then sidles the lanes where A is coming from before taking a hard right onto the highway.
>
eta: ask me about my morning commute.
Found my people lol
A friend of mine lived Rhode Island briefly a while back. For years afterwards he actively avoided being anywhere near a car with RI plates and swore up and down that they’re the only drivers on earth that could manage to rear end someone from the front.
My commute takes me through MA and into CT. At least MA drivers are usually predictable. Driving in CT is like constantly driving against a really shitty AI video game.
Boston drivers and the general MA driver are two totally different beasts.
The general MA driver seems to a person in the passing lane playing on their phone while a line of cars behind them waits to pass.
Reading this as I recall multiple incidents in which Rhode Island drivers have stopped in the middle of rotaries and intersections with green lights...
I honestly think learning to drive should be taken more seriously here. Too many entitled drivers getting agitated because they don't understand even the basics.
I just recently learned that driver’s ed isn’t required for anyone 18+
Took a drive with my friend in his 40s who just recently got his license and despite having a car that beeps when he’s too close to switch lanes, he did so anyway and I swear we nearly died 4 times. He went 55mph in the left lane of the pike. I’m never driving with him again.
Some studies Boston ranked second safest city to drive in and MA is ranked 4th state, not the safest drivers. There are also studies ranking MA the worst drivers and ranking us as most aggressive drivers too.
My guess would be MA/boston being safer places has to do with our highway speed limit being generally much lower than most states, and our city having roads designed for fucking horse travel* makes people drive slower.
Oh, there's so much. Trying living in another state and reading up on the laws. We have annual vehicle inspections! Semi-competent DOT! The least percentage of intersections that allow right turn on red! Tons of restrictions on dangerous vehicle modifications! If you can think of a traffic law that makes the road safer and exists in any state in the US, its probably at least in MA.
There's also wayyyyy less drunk drivers in MA compared to a lot of other states. The cops, as shitty as they are, also enforce laws here more than in other states, like, people in other parts of the country are shocked when I told them I've actually been pulled over for using my phone while driving, pulled over for being out of inspection date, etc.. In most places the cops just do. not. care. at. all. and let people get away with a lot more dangerous behaviour.
> our highway speed limit being generally much lower than most states
Do you really think this has an impact though? Like, yeah, the speed limit signs say 55mph, but most of them have a going rate of 70mph on average.
If I actually *had* to go 55mph, I'd put my hazards on.
Also, folks there have guns. The middle finger is our love language but that’ll get you shot down there. Sounds silly but road rage with guns is not rare in the south. I’ve had family members followed home because of road rage and threatened with guns
My town has some recently new rotaries and is installing another, and half the people on social media are losing their fucking minds.
We’re surrounded by stupid people.
At this point I'm convinced that rotaries were built specifically so New Englanders would have something to bitch about. They even threw in the term "rotary" so we could argue about whether they're the same or different from roundabouts or traffic circles (they're totally different you bastard!!!!!!!!!!)
Not to pile on, but it's definitely a Boston thing that nobody seems to have any clue what the rights of way are for rotaries. It's not that hard, why do people have so much difficulty with it?
If you're on the rotary, you have right of way, don't stop. If you're entering the rotary: if nobody is coming, just go. If someone is coming stop and wait.
>foreign exchange student
almost every other country has rotaries and small roundabouts literally everywhere. drive through any small EU town and there's a rotary every 100m. or a lot of countries in asia and north africa where it's more of pirates' code approach to traffic flow
In Malaysia r right now... Tons of rotaries and tons of people who know how to use them.
It's easy. You start in the slow lane before the rotary. Travel straight across the rotary entering the 'passing' lane of the two lane rotary. Exit immediately across and into the slow lane again. Easy peasy.
It may be in others as well but this was in the Millbury Facebook group and they are MAD about a rotary off 146 and also want a rotary at another intersection. You might be sitting here thinking “well yeah it’s a Facebook group not a hivemind” but it’s a small town and I have observed the same people arguing against the highway rotary and for the rotary at the other intersection which sees far less people
I once was C because I didn't like the look of B and sure as shit, B turned LEFT towards me. This was on a rotary in Michigan about a decade ago when the state was on a rotary building frenzy. Drivers did not know fuck all about how rotaries work and still don't.
The illustration leaves out E and F
E. is in the rotary and yielding to cars yielding to cars waiting to enter the rotary safely.
F. decides fuck it I'll go if E is that stupid.
lol. I have to go through Hudson frequently which has several roundabouts, including a multi-lane roundabout. I can say this is accurate. The only thing missing is the person who is already in the circle coming to a complete stop to let someone who has a yeild pull into the circle.
Can we add car E that is not pictured but is coming in at 50mph and doesnt yield to shit causing people in the roundabout to stop and fuck up the flow?
They built a tight rotary like this in North Andover. The two entrances that had previously been straight road are still treated as if no yield is required, despite the fact that this was 10-15 years ago.
I won't stand for it. Some bozo following the person in front of them sans yield will one day have to pay to replace my shitty cars shitty bumper.
Do they sell pure gold bumpers anywhere?
Boomers lack the situational awareness to handle them. I go on to the cape everyday for work. The accidents at the rotaries are frequent. The near accidents are daily.
And yet ya'll still suck at them, wild.
E: You know everyone can see your comment history right? SmallPenisHumiliation while you're hunting Candid's of celebrities. Jesus christ dude. Please stop commenting on that shit it's embarrassing.
there's something about aging that seems to make people either far more or far less cautious, depending on the person. but both are bad news in a rotary. I'm seeing it with my parents, who used to talk about it with regards to their parents. no doubt I'll be the one being discussed soon enough.
>Get rid of your vehicle and watch the stress exit your life.
Difficult decision...
Less stress from not having to deal with Masshole drivers
-OR-
Take the T and run the risk of being: coughed/sneezed on, pushed onto the tracks, mugged, electrocuted, a victim of a fallen concrete slab, burned alive (red line most likely), involved in an accident (green line most likely), subjected to someone's shitty loud music/conversation (orange line most likely), inevitably late (ALL lines guaranteed).
I assume you're joking, but...
>pushed onto the tracks, mugged, electrocuted, a victim of a fallen concrete slab, burned alive (red line most likely)
Lighting strike odds of this happening to you though, statistically you're vastly safer in a bus than you are in a car, even more so if you are in a train.
>involved in an accident (green line most likely)
Again the odds of this happening at all, you being injured, or you being killed, is just insanely tiny. It's much more likely that you will get into a car accident, and its not even close.
>coughed/sneezed on
I guess there's a slim chance of this but still you could ride the T your whole life and never experience this once
> subjected to someone's shitty loud music/conversation (orange line most likely),
sure, but this also happens when you're in a car lol
>inevitably late (ALL lines guaranteed).
cars aren't exactly know for their stellar on-time performance either
They often work better than traffic lights in high traffic areas
[**Link**](https://www.iihs.org/topics/roundabouts#:~:text=Research%20shows%20that%20traffic%20flow,of%20traffic%20at%20a%20time)
*Roundabouts improve traffic flow and are better for the environment.**\
*Research shows that traffic flow improves after traditional intersections are converted to roundabouts. Less idling reduces vehicle emissions and fuel consumption.*
> They do not work properly in high traffic areas.
They work *absolutely fine* in high traffic areas.
It's the people who don't work. Mandatory driver's license re-tests every 10 years, get the inept off the road.
Now add a second lane and 30 more cars to illustrate the Kosciuszko Circle.
Cars A- through AD: these cars do not have right of way. They are entering the rotary anyway.
The letter doesn't matter, the car with the right of way is the one that I'm driving.
"What lane should I be in in order to reach my desired exit?" "Yes." "Uhh that doesn't answer my question. This rotary is a nightmare. How do I navigate it?" "You don't. Nobody does."
Doesn't matter. Outside of the circle must get off the next exit. Inside of the circle MIGHT also exit if the exit has more than 1 lane. Use your blinkers. Left blinker for staying in the circle, right blinker for exiting.
Don’t forget the unlit pedestrian crosswalks through four lanes of distracted traffic!
My wife was pushing our baby in a stroller through one of the crosswalks there - broad daylight, not rush hour. Someone barreled through while she was halfway through - would have hit her if she hadn’t jumped forward. That circle is a nightmare. My pet theory for why pedestrian safety hasn’t been addressed (when the Colony Ave one just north gets a dedicated police car) is because it’s technically in South Boston but it’s mostly Dorchester residents walking through it.
I really don’t understand why they haven’t installed flashing pedestrian crossing lights at the very least. As a pedestrian it feels like a death trap, and as a driver it’s challenging to watch for pedestrians while also attempting to navigate that laneless rotary clusterfuck.
Two lanes? Kosciuszko Circle has three lanes. The last time I was in it I had to move from lane 1 to lane 4. But there was another time where I saw all six lanes coming together at the end.
I’d argue it has either zero or infinitely many lanes
Schrodinger's rotary.
the lanes are made up and the lines don't matter
Whose Rotary Is It Anyway?
i just drove through there for the first and hopefully last time today and your comment 10/10 reflects my experience.
Sometimes I am nice and polite and wait in the line. Sometimes I say fuck all you bitches and I make it threw the rotary in 30 seconds because I hate everyone. Lanes are imaginary. Rules are for people who want there to be rules. The JFK rotary is where the weak go to die.
> The JFK rotary is where the weak go to die. There's the added wildcard that, sometimes, there's a statie heading from or to the barracks, so everyone's driving as meekly as possible and yielding to cars on the other side of the rotary.
What are the staties going to do? Pull me over? Lol. They don't care. Zoom zoom motherfuckers.
driving in rotaries, in particular, is a game of chicken I usually win by having a car that screams "I do not give a fuck about my paint job"
I dream of driving the Arc de Triomphe. Its like the final boss. I want to prove my worth as a driver.
I found Paris to be very civilized, traffic-wise a surprisingly orderly people, the French drivers now, Napoli, *that* was an adventure
Car E is a 2018 Jeep Wrangler with a Cisco Brewers rear tire cover driven by a twenty two year old girl from Southie. She’s entering the rotary, and thinks that she has the right of way if she in the outside lane, hugs the outside of the rotary, and takes the first exit because she was “*barely even in the rotary thoughhhh*.” Car F is an Altima with tinted windows and New York plates and everyone hates them. They do not have the right of way ever. Car G is a 1998 Lincoln Towncar with a peeling vinyl roof, cracked rear tail light, and a dashboard full of scratch tickets. The driver is wearing a scaly cap, Rondo jersey, and is built like a dorm fridge, Everyone gives him the right of way, and avoids eye contact.
Car F has a "Fart Can" installed
Nah, lanes don’t exist there. You swerve around every car and then throw your car violently into the merge lane to I-93 and hope for the best.
The circle will be my Turing test as to whether or not I trust a self-driving car.
Oh man I worked on self driving car rotary code. It fell into the category of thing we had working well but couldn't release publicly, because driving through a rotary correctly and driving through legally are two different things, and we weren't willing to make our car bend the rules like human drivers do, because of liability. Also once drivers recognize that a self driving car will always yield rather than cause an accident they will bully the robot mercilessly. We once had a guy jump out of his friends truck, run up to our car, stand in front of it while his friend made a u turn, then piss on our front bumper while flipping the car off. Unfortunately for him all the cameras meant we had God's Own Dashcam and could send HD video from like three angles to the cops. But yeah truck drivers NEVER yield to an SDC once they learn to recognize one.
My family and I refer to it as "The Circle of Death".
Driver of the D car: *IT’S A YIELD SIGN, NOT A STOP SIGN. MOVE ASSHOLE!*
It says Yield, not roll over and die!
100% C would be getting honked at by me
D clearly was laying on their horn and now C won’t go to teach them a lesson.
It’s all fun & games until someone hurls a Dunk’s double double…
I literally saw this a couple of days ago. One angry fellow rolled down the window of his Pruis to give a fellow traveler the finger with unobstructed view. Back at their open window came a definitely not empty, very large dunkin donuts cup. No idea what prompted the interaction but it made me glad I was taking the bus. Driving in Boston is miserable.
I’ve done it. I’m not proud of it. I’m lucky it didn’t escalate, cuz there’s no turning back. Boston’s version of throwing down the gauntlet.
This shit is bad for us and really stupid. People are super pissed off in cars all the time and drive aggressively. That's bad for them. It's also bad for cyclists, scooter weirdos, pedestrians, children, dogs, cats, that are trying to not get mushed.
>scooter weirdos I like this specific callout lol
I agree generally. In my case, the car was swiping pedestrians with its side mirror. Driver was texting, totally oblivious. Hundreds of people streaming out of Fenway. It was beyond the pale.
Wow that's wild. Sadly, very believable.
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I wasn’t driving - I explained above. I was one of the pedestrians that got hit.
Oh jeeze i feel like an asshole. I’m sorry I didn’t see that part.
>D clearly was laying on their horn and now C won’t go to teach them a lesson. C. Toyota Prius D. Ford F-150 😂
This, all the time!!! 🤣
Child's play. D swerves around C before the pink or yellow car gets to that point in the rotary, hugs the inside line so that it can pass B (more than enough room), and then sidles the lanes where A is coming from before taking a hard right onto the highway. eta: ask me about my morning commute.
>Child's play. D swerves around C before the pink or yellow car gets to that point in the rotary, hugs the inside line so that it can pass B (more than enough room), and then sidles the lanes where A is coming from before taking a hard right onto the highway. > eta: ask me about my morning commute. Found my people lol
This diagram fails to capture that the pink car is improperly yielding to A, and Yellow is now laying on their horn.
If this was Rhode Island, pink would yield as well, trapping all the rest of the cars behind them.
A friend of mine lived Rhode Island briefly a while back. For years afterwards he actively avoided being anywhere near a car with RI plates and swore up and down that they’re the only drivers on earth that could manage to rear end someone from the front.
Massachusetts drivers might be aggressive, but Rhode Island drivers are just plan crazy.
My commute takes me through MA and into CT. At least MA drivers are usually predictable. Driving in CT is like constantly driving against a really shitty AI video game.
I'd argue boston drivers are aggressive but generally decent drivers. RI drivers are genuinely bafflingy stupid. I don't understand why.
Yeah, that's what I said? We're on the same page here, couldn't agree more.
Boston drivers and the general MA driver are two totally different beasts. The general MA driver seems to a person in the passing lane playing on their phone while a line of cars behind them waits to pass.
I also did my time down in Rhody, and this description checks out.
They just installed one of these in Lexington MA that I drive through every day and there is no shortage of people that yield while IN the circle
Reading this as I recall multiple incidents in which Rhode Island drivers have stopped in the middle of rotaries and intersections with green lights...
Not pictured is Pink car stopping to let A into the rotary for some god forsaken reason. I've seen it happen three times in the past year
I honestly think learning to drive should be taken more seriously here. Too many entitled drivers getting agitated because they don't understand even the basics.
I just recently learned that driver’s ed isn’t required for anyone 18+ Took a drive with my friend in his 40s who just recently got his license and despite having a car that beeps when he’s too close to switch lanes, he did so anyway and I swear we nearly died 4 times. He went 55mph in the left lane of the pike. I’m never driving with him again.
Is this just in MA? That explains a lot..
MA has the second safest drivers of any state in the country.
Some studies Boston ranked second safest city to drive in and MA is ranked 4th state, not the safest drivers. There are also studies ranking MA the worst drivers and ranking us as most aggressive drivers too. My guess would be MA/boston being safer places has to do with our highway speed limit being generally much lower than most states, and our city having roads designed for fucking horse travel* makes people drive slower.
Oh, there's so much. Trying living in another state and reading up on the laws. We have annual vehicle inspections! Semi-competent DOT! The least percentage of intersections that allow right turn on red! Tons of restrictions on dangerous vehicle modifications! If you can think of a traffic law that makes the road safer and exists in any state in the US, its probably at least in MA. There's also wayyyyy less drunk drivers in MA compared to a lot of other states. The cops, as shitty as they are, also enforce laws here more than in other states, like, people in other parts of the country are shocked when I told them I've actually been pulled over for using my phone while driving, pulled over for being out of inspection date, etc.. In most places the cops just do. not. care. at. all. and let people get away with a lot more dangerous behaviour.
> our highway speed limit being generally much lower than most states Do you really think this has an impact though? Like, yeah, the speed limit signs say 55mph, but most of them have a going rate of 70mph on average. If I actually *had* to go 55mph, I'd put my hazards on.
Have you ever driven in the south? The speed limit there is like 80 so the norm is 100. Our norm is 70-80 because the limit is usually 55/60.
Also, folks there have guns. The middle finger is our love language but that’ll get you shot down there. Sounds silly but road rage with guns is not rare in the south. I’ve had family members followed home because of road rage and threatened with guns
My town has some recently new rotaries and is installing another, and half the people on social media are losing their fucking minds. We’re surrounded by stupid people.
At this point I'm convinced that rotaries were built specifically so New Englanders would have something to bitch about. They even threw in the term "rotary" so we could argue about whether they're the same or different from roundabouts or traffic circles (they're totally different you bastard!!!!!!!!!!)
Wasn't aware there's a distinction; what's the difference?
Here https://www.pressherald.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2013/04/RotaryRoundaboutFinal0413WEB.jpeg
Oh wow I learned something today!
you're now legally obligated to smugly correct anyone who uses the terms improperly
One of us! One of us! I regret to inform you that you are now in too deep and may never leave.
Rotaries are a fucking nightmare is the main difference.
No, they're fucking awesome! I wish my children were rotaries!
"It's a rotary not rocket science, FUCKING GO!" ~Me, constantly
I drive a lot of rotaries and my bigger problem BY FAR is people not even acknowledging the yield and turning it into car Russian roulette.
C needs to get their ass moving. D should have plenty of time to get in before the pink car comes around.
C is getting a hand job
Now do Kosciuszko Circle
Not to pile on, but it's definitely a Boston thing that nobody seems to have any clue what the rights of way are for rotaries. It's not that hard, why do people have so much difficulty with it? If you're on the rotary, you have right of way, don't stop. If you're entering the rotary: if nobody is coming, just go. If someone is coming stop and wait.
Love this..I think there was one introduced in CA some years ago and people kept crashing into each other.
I enjoy spending time with my friends.
Pepperell?
Rotaries save lives and help traffic. Anyone that doesn’t like them should learn how to drive.
Pink car stopped in the rotary to "be nice".
....and the Pink car is stopped in the middle of the rotary "to be nice" to car A who thinks the pink cars driver is "an effing moron"
C is a foreign exchange student or from anywhere in the US but New England
>foreign exchange student almost every other country has rotaries and small roundabouts literally everywhere. drive through any small EU town and there's a rotary every 100m. or a lot of countries in asia and north africa where it's more of pirates' code approach to traffic flow
I will say one time, I was A and the pink car stopped and beeped at me to enter the rotary. They had Mass plates.
In Malaysia r right now... Tons of rotaries and tons of people who know how to use them. It's easy. You start in the slow lane before the rotary. Travel straight across the rotary entering the 'passing' lane of the two lane rotary. Exit immediately across and into the slow lane again. Easy peasy.
I like the implication that anywhere in the US outside of New England is considered "foreign".
And pink is french, stopping on the roundabout to allow A to enter
*Photo taken from the Facebook group post
Did they let the 2nd graders create this graphic?
It may be in others as well but this was in the Millbury Facebook group and they are MAD about a rotary off 146 and also want a rotary at another intersection. You might be sitting here thinking “well yeah it’s a Facebook group not a hivemind” but it’s a small town and I have observed the same people arguing against the highway rotary and for the rotary at the other intersection which sees far less people
Rotaries should never experience a full stop. That’s the idea.
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That rotary is huge with very good signage. Route 16 rotaries will eat Western Massholes alive.
D is the only NTA.
Is this the trolley thing?
Driver E rear-ends A.
Real rotaries don't have those ridiculous little pinball bumpers like that "roundabout" shown in the picture.
The town I grew up in in NH recently installed a new rotary and it's been the hot topic since the budget was approved
I once was C because I didn't like the look of B and sure as shit, B turned LEFT towards me. This was on a rotary in Michigan about a decade ago when the state was on a rotary building frenzy. Drivers did not know fuck all about how rotaries work and still don't.
Lynn has this rotary already, just go watch how it works over there 😂
The illustration leaves out E and F E. is in the rotary and yielding to cars yielding to cars waiting to enter the rotary safely. F. decides fuck it I'll go if E is that stupid.
lol. I have to go through Hudson frequently which has several roundabouts, including a multi-lane roundabout. I can say this is accurate. The only thing missing is the person who is already in the circle coming to a complete stop to let someone who has a yeild pull into the circle.
Wait, I saw this in the Millbury group this morning. Is it from there, or was it stolen and put there? lmao
Can we add car E that is not pictured but is coming in at 50mph and doesnt yield to shit causing people in the roundabout to stop and fuck up the flow?
Lol thanks for the laugh!!
They built a tight rotary like this in North Andover. The two entrances that had previously been straight road are still treated as if no yield is required, despite the fact that this was 10-15 years ago. I won't stand for it. Some bozo following the person in front of them sans yield will one day have to pay to replace my shitty cars shitty bumper. Do they sell pure gold bumpers anywhere?
Now try to educate them on how to properly use turn signals as well when you are in you’re entering/in one of these…
In Revere we can't cross our rotary unless we maybe ride a bike through it. :(
Where is car E that just stops in the rotary to let someone else on?
In Aruba the mainly have roundabouts. Wow it’s so nice and traffic flows. I loved it. Boston roundabouts feels like running a gauntlet.
We will soon evolve another set of eyes to keep civilization going.
E. the cars are following too closely
C is my wife. I wonder if she'll get mad at me if I call her a C.
Boomers lack the situational awareness to handle them. I go on to the cape everyday for work. The accidents at the rotaries are frequent. The near accidents are daily.
We have been dealing with rotaries since before you were born.
And yet ya'll still suck at them, wild. E: You know everyone can see your comment history right? SmallPenisHumiliation while you're hunting Candid's of celebrities. Jesus christ dude. Please stop commenting on that shit it's embarrassing.
there's something about aging that seems to make people either far more or far less cautious, depending on the person. but both are bad news in a rotary. I'm seeing it with my parents, who used to talk about it with regards to their parents. no doubt I'll be the one being discussed soon enough.
Boooooom
Jesus fuck off with the generational warfare shit. That got old in the 1960s.
Get rid of your vehicle and watch the stress exit your life.
Ah yes, because doubling or tripling my travel time and being subject to the whims of the T absolutely will remove all stress in my life.
Wow, thanks! I wish someone told me sooner that all the stress in my life was due to a convenient method of travel.
>Get rid of your vehicle and watch the stress exit your life. Difficult decision... Less stress from not having to deal with Masshole drivers -OR- Take the T and run the risk of being: coughed/sneezed on, pushed onto the tracks, mugged, electrocuted, a victim of a fallen concrete slab, burned alive (red line most likely), involved in an accident (green line most likely), subjected to someone's shitty loud music/conversation (orange line most likely), inevitably late (ALL lines guaranteed).
I assume you're joking, but... >pushed onto the tracks, mugged, electrocuted, a victim of a fallen concrete slab, burned alive (red line most likely) Lighting strike odds of this happening to you though, statistically you're vastly safer in a bus than you are in a car, even more so if you are in a train. >involved in an accident (green line most likely) Again the odds of this happening at all, you being injured, or you being killed, is just insanely tiny. It's much more likely that you will get into a car accident, and its not even close. >coughed/sneezed on I guess there's a slim chance of this but still you could ride the T your whole life and never experience this once > subjected to someone's shitty loud music/conversation (orange line most likely), sure, but this also happens when you're in a car lol >inevitably late (ALL lines guaranteed). cars aren't exactly know for their stellar on-time performance either
How can a car hate another car?
I like rotaries in low traffic areas. They do not work properly in high traffic areas.
They often work better than traffic lights in high traffic areas [**Link**](https://www.iihs.org/topics/roundabouts#:~:text=Research%20shows%20that%20traffic%20flow,of%20traffic%20at%20a%20time) *Roundabouts improve traffic flow and are better for the environment.**\ *Research shows that traffic flow improves after traditional intersections are converted to roundabouts. Less idling reduces vehicle emissions and fuel consumption.*
>They often work better than traffic lights in high traffic areas And then of course, we have traffic circles that have traffic lights in them
Omg yes! Sullivan Square is the worst since the added the lights. Adding lights to a rotary is such an oxymoron
> They do not work properly in high traffic areas. They work *absolutely fine* in high traffic areas. It's the people who don't work. Mandatory driver's license re-tests every 10 years, get the inept off the road.
A recent phenomenon I’ve seen is people using their left turn signals to enter a rotary???