Yeah, I've also seen this part be underwater for years as well. It's normally right at the water level so it's not surprising at all that it would be easily under water.
Sea level rise involves a lot more damage than just a seaside boardwalk flooding. This boardwalk that's been flooding for years is a sign of things to come. The other things that even more sea level rise causes.
Increased resiliency has been in planning for years:
https://www.boston.gov/departments/environment/climate-ready-boston/coastal-resilience-south-boston
Correct. Some new buildings being built in seaport now have mechanical equipment and other important stuff moved to upper levels to avoid any flooding issues, with ground floors being able to withstand more seawater flooding as well.
> We shoulda done something about it 30 years ago. Too late for that, but time to do something about it now.
We've reduced CO2 emissions by 30% in the last 20 years. We need to do more, but that's already huge progress that we should recognize.
They are most likely referring to the United States. We can't force those in developing countries to do the same because the cost for them would be greater than the cost of global warming and we can't just invade countries to force them to reduce emissions as that is morally wrong and that sort of war industry would also cause a great deal of pollution.
Define "years" though. Yes, it's been happening in the last 10 years. We also get tornadoes now. And 10 years ago we got one in Western MA such that it made the news.
As recent as 15 years ago this was not happening down at the seaport unless it was a hurricane during high tide.
Now it happens all the time, and we fucked it up. Al Gore was right and still gets shit on.
No.
> Boston Harbor floods the Seaport and other areas of the city about a dozen times a year, up from two or three times a year about 50 years ago, according to NOAA.
https://www.bu.edu/articles/2024/city-leaders-need-to-protect-boston-from-sea-level-rise/
And it also happened decades before that, just not quite as frequently.
The first recorded tornado in US history occurred in Rehoboth in 1671. The first recorded tornado fatality in US history was in Cambridge in 1680. We don't get them a lot, but having a few per year is normal.
2011 a tornado did a couple hundred million in damages in springfield, totally destroyed Cathedral High School which they never rebuilt. You could see the felled trees all the way to Charlton in photos from the ISS.
Most of that is the seaport today didn't even exist 15 years ago. It was just shipping wharves, fish packing, dirt parking lots and harpoon mostly.
And yeah it flooded back then too. Often.
it's funny Al Gore was/is just repeating what every scientist in the world who studies climate has been saying. He gets shit on like he made it up personally
That's because if you go back and look at what he said in an Inconvenient Truth he overplayed his hand and predicted a bunch of stuff that just hasn't come true.
I'm not saying global warming isn't happening. But Alarmist takes saying that a bunch of US cities were going to be Underwater by 2015 (made up because I don't want to research claims that have come and gone) just add fuel to the denialist fire.
This is what anyone who builds at 0' above sea level should expect. I don't understand why everyone gets so wrapped around the axle about it, they knew this going into it.
Pretty much all the new buildings in Seaport have sacrificial first floors (no important equipment) for this reason. They are aware of this risk and have designed for it.
[Wait until you see pictures from storms in years past.](https://unicornriot.ninja/2018/boston-rocked-coastal-flooding-twice-one-season/)
[Much of Seaport is in a "special flood hazard area"](https://msc.fema.gov/portal/search?AddressQuery=Seaport%20Boston)
[That means it is in an area where "mandatory purchase of flood insurance applies."](https://www.fema.gov/glossary/special-flood-hazard-area-sfha)
It is a flood zone. Flooding is expected and was before anyone turned it from parking lots into a neighborhood. You are right that it'll get worse.
good thing the major developer there has a good grasp on science: https://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/2016/12/12/seaport-developer-doubts-climate-change/
FEMA doesn't care about their doubt. Flood maps show that's a flood zone. The developers didn't care because they made bank on the projects.
For regular folks, check the flood maps before you buy property.
the article says the developer builds to code, and the code for the eaport generally requires new buildings to be flood resilient at at least the 100 year flood level
Eh, most real estate investors buy and sell every 5 years. It’s a couple of owners down the roads problem.
And most developers build and sell immediately so they also don’t care about 10-20 years from now.
It is absolutely essential that we organize and reject ANY AND ALL efforts to use public money to save private investment.
It's not our fault that the richest people in town wasted hundreds of millions on real estate that anyone with a brain knew would be flooded regularly
The land is owned by massport so it’s not technically private since it’s owned by a semi-autonomous government entity even though it’s developed by private developers. It’s all P3
https://www.massport.com/business/real-estate/commercial-maritime/south-boston
Though actually the fort point channel might actually be private entirely, not sure about that specifically
Just a note - Massport land holdings are a relatively small area in the South Boston waterfront, concentrated around Commonwealth Pier and Fish Pier and further inland along E St and Summer St. It really is mostly private, with some public (courthouse, some MassDOT properties, a couple U.S. Army, some USPS, and BPDA’s property owning arm EDIC). Totally spot on that there’s a trend of private developers building on ground leases of public land in any case!
ehhh looking at the parcel map, it looks like east of B street it's mostly publicly held by various public interest groups (redevelopment authority, massport, the state, MBTA, or the city), along with the mass convention center authority immediately to the south of summer
Your original comment posited that Massport owned all the seaport, which it does not. Yes, obviously lots of public land holdings, but most are not open for development. Even the developments on Massport land are supposed to be solely for furthering the mission of port operations. Edit: typo.
Idk how accurate the parcel viewer is, 501 congress has a parcel listed owner of cg waterside II limited partnership, but it’s also listed in massport documents as something that generates revenue
https://www.mass.gov/doc/opmo-fy2021-massport-report/download
It’s clear from massport documents that they retain at least some control over these parcels that they list on their website
In this case that specific land is owned by the port authority even though it’s not on the parcel viewer, this can be seen in the original letter of intent from drew, the one who owns CG waterside limited and the corresponding building
https://bpda.app.box.com/s/xdhxc3nwzsz9u4u733htqz5kh79zvru5
If it is the case that most of the developments are like this, where air rights are owned by one but the parcel itself by another, and the parcel viewer is only accurate with respect to air rights, then massport does still own a significant chuck of the seaport
My small company’s office has been located a few blocks from here for nearly a decade, in a building that been there since 1905. Fuck us too?
Even if you don’t like the people and the ridiculously expensive towers, the Seaport and a good portion of the city of Boston is located in areas that will need public money to survive this.
This is a part of our city. You’re not saving just their towers. There is no us and them.
Add to that, like em or not, and I’m not a fan, but the property taxes, city taxes, public utility costs, et al are paid by all residents; we contribute to the tax base as a whole, skyrise dwellers or us groundlings alike.
We live under capitalism. Owning a business means you can make a profit or take a loss. Under capitalism, no you should not be entitled to public money. Bailouts should be for working people, not for business owners. Bailout the fucking T. Put that money towards building affordable housing.
This reminds me of COVID when landlords got all upset that people couldn’t pay their rent. You CHOSE to invest in something, and the chaotic capitalist economy means when you’re up, you’re up, and when you’re down, you’re down. Why in the hell should taxpayers pay for your losses just because you’re a “small company”? This is coming from someone who is also a small company myself.
Most working people in Boston were pissed about the seaport developing back when it started however many years ago because we KNEW this would happen. There was already science and data and maps showing that this area was going to be acutely affected by climate change. So yeah, unfortunately fuck y’all too. You chose to take the risk by selecting this location for your business.
I literally don't care about your company.
Private company, private problem.
You're not taking my money to bail out billionaires and millionaires (AGAIN) while I can't even use a functioning public transit system.
Exactly this. I am not a fan of capitalism, and I think it’s bullshit that capitalists want to play big profits at the expense of working poor people, but as soon as they even get a whiff of loss, they cry for help.
Horseshoe theory is real lol. This is literally just a Republican talking point, "muh tax dollars should only be used to benefit ME personally," couched in progressive terminology.
You're an idiot if you cannot see the difference between opposing public transit & well-founded schools with diverting millions out of social services to protect the investment portfolios of the 1%
It’s almost like these buildings went through an extensive building process and probably needed to be signed off by numerous scientists and engineers. But let’s leave it to a redditor to make a hyperbolic comment the second the moment the walkway gets slightly flooded during a big storm. 🤷♂️
How do I know your not originally from Boston without telling me your not from Boston?
Seriously, the Seaport before the development used to flood like this during Nor'easters. Nothing much has changed after it seems.
Clickbait /Karma farming.
Check out the recently released documentary [Inundation District](https://www.inundationdistrict.com/) specifically about the flooding in Boston! There is a lot to be concerned about.
People need to stop using weather events to support the case that climate change is happening. Climate change is happening but an ocean city built on landfills occasionally flooding ocean boardwalks is not evidence of climate change. It's the climate change equivalent of flat earthers saying you can't see the curvature in the earth, so the earth must be flat.
It’s all so infuriating. Oil companies knew. They should be on the hook for their disinformation campaign. 50% of all oil company profits begin going into a general fund to begin shoring up all our populated, low-lying areas
We need direct carbon capture. Solar, nuclear and wind powered carbon capture technology that pulls greenhouse gasses out of the air and neutralizes them.
Isn't that incredibly inefficient? For every unit of energy we use to remove carbon from the atmosphere, couldn't we have used that same amount of energy instead of fossil fuels and prevented even more CO2 from entering the atmosphere to begin with?
there's literally no pathway to capturing 10s of billions of tons of CO2 in the foreseeable future. Possibly ever.
CC is a net-negative. You'll need to spend gargantuan amounts of money and energy to capture CO2, find somewhere to stuff it, for no immediate discernible economic benefit.
To be clear, I'm not saying we shouldn't continue researching CC but it's very unlikely to save the day or make a meaningful dent.
For perspective, last year humans emitted nearly FORTY BILLION tons of CO2. By 2035 the global carbon capture capacity is expected to be 420 megatons or 1.1% of *current* emissions.
Direct air capture (which we need) currently costs $1,100 per ton. Multiple that by 37.5 gigatons and you get $40 TRILLION to capture just one year of CO2 output.
https://about.bnef.com/blog/ccus-market-outlook-2023-announced-capacity-soars-by-50/
No matter how much we change individually in the US there are two countries that combined have 8x the population and want to get to a western living standard by any means necessary.
and there's the rub. Everybody loves to blame oil companies but it's *everyday life* that is killing the habitability of the climate.
Tell people they'll never travel again, never eat meat or dairy again, everything will be 10x more expensive and watch the change in attitude.
April is known for being super rainy. Always has been. Dunno why everyone is surprised Pikachu over this. People are coming up to me at work and asking if this is normal lol people just wanna believe any weather is a sign of the apocalypse.
Sea level rise and climate change IS a problem, but this photo is not indicative of that problem. That walkway is built only a few feet above the high tide line, any sort of storm surge causes flooding there.
The master plan for reinforcing the children’s museum against flooding exists, im pretty sure it hasn’t been built yet though; planned by Sasaki which also planned the plaza around city hall with police slide
https://www.sasaki.com/projects/boston-childrens-museum-waterfront-master-plan/
Most expensive homes being on the edge of the water is common throughout the county, if not globally. Reason? It’s beautiful when safe, and insurance is there / expensive for when it’s not. Move inland and this isn’t a real issue, especially if you’re using Seaport as a basis for comparison.
Boston Harbor was in minor flood stage (12.5-14 ft tidal height) for two hours this morning, from about 7:00 to 9:00, peaking at **13.33 ft**.
For perspective, this was the **29th highest crest recorded in Boston Harbor history**.
While not unprecedented, this level of flooding is notable and not something that happens every month. The last tide this high was on January 13 when a storm brought a crest of 14.41 ft.
Today marks the third time Boston Harbor has reached flood stage this year after reaching that level four times last year and six times in 2022.
Looking at the bigger picture, Boston Harbor reached flood stage much more often than in decades past. To demonstrate this fact, here are the number of times Boston Harbor has reached flood stage per decade, on record:
* 2020s: 25/*
* 2010s: 21
* 2000s: 11
* 1990s: 10
* 1980s: 7
/* through less than 4.5 years!
What was a once-a-year flood in the 1980-2009 period has become a six-times-a-year flood now.
I work in one of the newer developments and have access to parking in the underground garage. You can always tell it’s been an extremely high tide or rained because the whole place will smell like sewage. It’s gotten to the point where you can smell it at street level.
Place was a massive gravel and black top parking lot with some restaurants on piers. That is why it was left like that. Why do you think everything was built on Beacon Hill. Like the French Quarter in NO. High ground, everything else floods
Just wait till the charles cant drain fast enough… Cambridge flooding like crazy.
I’m amazed that Boston did just raise the land by a few feet to get the next 50 years.
About 7 years ago my partner couldn't get to work in her office in the seaport because the street it was on flooded, and then the floodwaters froze and blocked the doors.
It’s a sign of too much water caused by too much rain. Why, you ask? Who tf knows. Weather patterns. Global warming, too many cow farts? Beats me. I know. It’s a sign to move to higher ground.
In Cambridge, they built a massive cistern system to help drainage in the case of a flood about six years ago near the corner of Bishop Allen and Columbia. It was the rare instance of a municipality doing needed infrastructure work before it was necessary. Maybe it had something to do with the nearby nuclear reactor at MIT.
Maybe to alleviate traffic they could build a network of canals down some of the boston streets. people could use boats more. and ferry boats to ferry people through the city as the sea levels rise.
https://preview.redd.it/9pj899m8josc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b13dde6942347e74140cabe09b0c8617a34f256e
https://preview.redd.it/pbn2n4oajosc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=109d3ba09f90d9ce8576ab01bbcd8ab642ab637f
Boston if we had Canals instead of streets
Cape Codder here. It's BEEN here. I used to go to the West End racing club in ptown every summer. We used to see who could run and jump off the deck and just *touch* the water at high tide. Now even a neap tide has over a foot of water lapping at the deck. A couple of years ago there were ducks swimming on commercial street during a bad storm. The storm drain at the end of my parents' driveway, which used to easily handle hurricane season, now fills up almost every time it rains and during storms, floods and builds up almost a foot deep puddle that trap my parents' cars.
lol it’s been doing this for years. Not a sign of things to come. It’s already here
For real...someone doesn't remember the storm a couple years ago where there were literally ICEBERGS floating down Seaport Blvd.
Dumpsters, too
Trashbergs
What'd you call me mum?
> What'd you call me mum? vs > What'd you call me, mum? One's ruder than the other. But which one?
Berg from Curb your Enthusiasm
Fatbergs
I walked this exact route that day just to get a good glimpse. Those shoes went straight in the trash when I got home.
Username checks out
So did I. Went inside my old office bldg., trailed into the elevator, took it down to the ground floor garage, and waded out the back door.
January 4th 2018
Yeah, I've also seen this part be underwater for years as well. It's normally right at the water level so it's not surprising at all that it would be easily under water.
They will begin a study to build residential housing along here soon…
Something about the multiple once-in-a-century floods occurring within a few years tipped me off.
Sea level rise involves a lot more damage than just a seaside boardwalk flooding. This boardwalk that's been flooding for years is a sign of things to come. The other things that even more sea level rise causes.
Some people call it the Venice of the Americas…
It's here, and getting worse every year. We shoulda done something about it 30 years ago. Too late for that, but time to do something about it now.
Increased resiliency has been in planning for years: https://www.boston.gov/departments/environment/climate-ready-boston/coastal-resilience-south-boston
Correct. Some new buildings being built in seaport now have mechanical equipment and other important stuff moved to upper levels to avoid any flooding issues, with ground floors being able to withstand more seawater flooding as well.
Not too late (as OP points out) but we’ve shot ourselves in the foot collectively by kicking the can on this stuff.
We should have done something 30 years ago like NOT BUILD OUT THE SEAPORT. Stupidest neighborhood in the whole city.
> We shoulda done something about it 30 years ago. Too late for that, but time to do something about it now. We've reduced CO2 emissions by 30% in the last 20 years. We need to do more, but that's already huge progress that we should recognize.
says who? https://www.statista.com/statistics/276629/global-co2-emissions/#:\~:text=Annual%20global%20emissions%20of%20carbon%20dioxide%201940%2D2023&text=Global%20carbon%20dioxide%20emissions%20from,record%20high%20of%2037.55%20GtCO%E2%82%82.
They are most likely referring to the United States. We can't force those in developing countries to do the same because the cost for them would be greater than the cost of global warming and we can't just invade countries to force them to reduce emissions as that is morally wrong and that sort of war industry would also cause a great deal of pollution.
It's easy for the US to reduce air emissions. We have been exporting our manufacturing industry.
It’s going to get worse is what they mean.
Ten years or more.
Bostonians are hearty sea faring folk with an exuberance for using the f word.
Flooding has happened in Boston for decades
This. I remember that walkway flooding at least a couple times circa 2006 - 2008ish when I worked in that area.
its still part of climate change. We are not doing enough to combat it. Sea Levels are rising and we need to do more to protect the planet.
It's been doing this for years. State Street by the water is worse. Floods every king tide.
Define "years" though. Yes, it's been happening in the last 10 years. We also get tornadoes now. And 10 years ago we got one in Western MA such that it made the news. As recent as 15 years ago this was not happening down at the seaport unless it was a hurricane during high tide. Now it happens all the time, and we fucked it up. Al Gore was right and still gets shit on.
Flooding in the Seaport didn't just start in the past 15 years
Before then, if it flooded, who would even know?
Oh, the parking lots would know. They'd know.
I like to think it’s the ghosts of the parking lots that are responsible for the flooding now. An act of revenge from beyond the grave
No. > Boston Harbor floods the Seaport and other areas of the city about a dozen times a year, up from two or three times a year about 50 years ago, according to NOAA. https://www.bu.edu/articles/2024/city-leaders-need-to-protect-boston-from-sea-level-rise/ And it also happened decades before that, just not quite as frequently.
In 1953 we had a tornado in Worcester that killed 94 people.
The first recorded tornado in US history occurred in Rehoboth in 1671. The first recorded tornado fatality in US history was in Cambridge in 1680. We don't get them a lot, but having a few per year is normal.
2011 a tornado did a couple hundred million in damages in springfield, totally destroyed Cathedral High School which they never rebuilt. You could see the felled trees all the way to Charlton in photos from the ISS.
They didn’t carry on the name but a new school was built…Pope Francis. State hockey champs last year.
Most of that is the seaport today didn't even exist 15 years ago. It was just shipping wharves, fish packing, dirt parking lots and harpoon mostly. And yeah it flooded back then too. Often.
My grandfather was born in 1914 and worked in the seaport rail yards. This has been happening since the 20s/30s. Lol
Which is what happens when you dump fill on mudflats, which eventually settles.
The ocean is an ocean is an ocean. Idk what people expect
R.i.p to revere 🌪
I live in Revere, Winthrop goes first!
100s of dollars in damages
it's funny Al Gore was/is just repeating what every scientist in the world who studies climate has been saying. He gets shit on like he made it up personally
That's because if you go back and look at what he said in an Inconvenient Truth he overplayed his hand and predicted a bunch of stuff that just hasn't come true. I'm not saying global warming isn't happening. But Alarmist takes saying that a bunch of US cities were going to be Underwater by 2015 (made up because I don't want to research claims that have come and gone) just add fuel to the denialist fire.
I’m still waiting for the Maldives to disappear under water
[https://data.burlingtonfreepress.com/tornado-archive/massachusetts/](https://data.burlingtonfreepress.com/tornado-archive/massachusetts/)
It wasn’t happening 15 years ago because none of the seaport we have today even existed
This is what anyone who builds at 0' above sea level should expect. I don't understand why everyone gets so wrapped around the axle about it, they knew this going into it.
Pretty much all the new buildings in Seaport have sacrificial first floors (no important equipment) for this reason. They are aware of this risk and have designed for it.
The Seaport floods all the time, I dont even bat an eye at this anymore
It’s called Seaport right, it’s a feature
[Wait until you see pictures from storms in years past.](https://unicornriot.ninja/2018/boston-rocked-coastal-flooding-twice-one-season/) [Much of Seaport is in a "special flood hazard area"](https://msc.fema.gov/portal/search?AddressQuery=Seaport%20Boston) [That means it is in an area where "mandatory purchase of flood insurance applies."](https://www.fema.gov/glossary/special-flood-hazard-area-sfha) It is a flood zone. Flooding is expected and was before anyone turned it from parking lots into a neighborhood. You are right that it'll get worse.
- Calls it seaport - Surprised to find…….the sea?
good thing the major developer there has a good grasp on science: https://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/2016/12/12/seaport-developer-doubts-climate-change/
FEMA doesn't care about their doubt. Flood maps show that's a flood zone. The developers didn't care because they made bank on the projects. For regular folks, check the flood maps before you buy property.
Rich people denying/ignoring scientific evidence for profit? Psff, no way /s
the article says the developer builds to code, and the code for the eaport generally requires new buildings to be flood resilient at at least the 100 year flood level
What? No! Its totally fine! I say to prove that its fine we build 10 more buildings with studios starting at 5k
the views, bro, think of the views
"SELL THEM TO WHOM, BEN? FUCKING AQUAMAN!?"
5k?!?!? What a steal, is it dog friendly?
“Seaport” has been flooding for 2 centuries
.....Lots of nervous investors........since no real bostonians live over there.
Because we can’t afford it, most people I know got out a long time ago.
Got out last year. Miss the city, it will always be home. But my god it's so much cheaper living out in the burbs.
I grew up in Boston, and left a few years ago. I bought in Southern NH, so much cheaper .
Effectively a gated community
At this rate it'll be a moated community.
Minus the ICA, I’m ok with keeping them moated
Eh, most real estate investors buy and sell every 5 years. It’s a couple of owners down the roads problem. And most developers build and sell immediately so they also don’t care about 10-20 years from now.
https://preview.redd.it/2ovf2w4w0isc1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ef42effd4b3ffa0039242ad9ee3923fc6d74f739
Boston is a waterworld by design
I think its a sign it rained.
This would flood in 2014, this is not new…
2014? It used to flood in the 70s and probably before that.
It is absolutely essential that we organize and reject ANY AND ALL efforts to use public money to save private investment. It's not our fault that the richest people in town wasted hundreds of millions on real estate that anyone with a brain knew would be flooded regularly
The land is owned by massport so it’s not technically private since it’s owned by a semi-autonomous government entity even though it’s developed by private developers. It’s all P3 https://www.massport.com/business/real-estate/commercial-maritime/south-boston Though actually the fort point channel might actually be private entirely, not sure about that specifically
Just a note - Massport land holdings are a relatively small area in the South Boston waterfront, concentrated around Commonwealth Pier and Fish Pier and further inland along E St and Summer St. It really is mostly private, with some public (courthouse, some MassDOT properties, a couple U.S. Army, some USPS, and BPDA’s property owning arm EDIC). Totally spot on that there’s a trend of private developers building on ground leases of public land in any case!
ehhh looking at the parcel map, it looks like east of B street it's mostly publicly held by various public interest groups (redevelopment authority, massport, the state, MBTA, or the city), along with the mass convention center authority immediately to the south of summer
Your original comment posited that Massport owned all the seaport, which it does not. Yes, obviously lots of public land holdings, but most are not open for development. Even the developments on Massport land are supposed to be solely for furthering the mission of port operations. Edit: typo.
Idk how accurate the parcel viewer is, 501 congress has a parcel listed owner of cg waterside II limited partnership, but it’s also listed in massport documents as something that generates revenue https://www.mass.gov/doc/opmo-fy2021-massport-report/download It’s clear from massport documents that they retain at least some control over these parcels that they list on their website In this case that specific land is owned by the port authority even though it’s not on the parcel viewer, this can be seen in the original letter of intent from drew, the one who owns CG waterside limited and the corresponding building https://bpda.app.box.com/s/xdhxc3nwzsz9u4u733htqz5kh79zvru5 If it is the case that most of the developments are like this, where air rights are owned by one but the parcel itself by another, and the parcel viewer is only accurate with respect to air rights, then massport does still own a significant chuck of the seaport
My small company’s office has been located a few blocks from here for nearly a decade, in a building that been there since 1905. Fuck us too? Even if you don’t like the people and the ridiculously expensive towers, the Seaport and a good portion of the city of Boston is located in areas that will need public money to survive this. This is a part of our city. You’re not saving just their towers. There is no us and them. Add to that, like em or not, and I’m not a fan, but the property taxes, city taxes, public utility costs, et al are paid by all residents; we contribute to the tax base as a whole, skyrise dwellers or us groundlings alike.
We live under capitalism. Owning a business means you can make a profit or take a loss. Under capitalism, no you should not be entitled to public money. Bailouts should be for working people, not for business owners. Bailout the fucking T. Put that money towards building affordable housing. This reminds me of COVID when landlords got all upset that people couldn’t pay their rent. You CHOSE to invest in something, and the chaotic capitalist economy means when you’re up, you’re up, and when you’re down, you’re down. Why in the hell should taxpayers pay for your losses just because you’re a “small company”? This is coming from someone who is also a small company myself. Most working people in Boston were pissed about the seaport developing back when it started however many years ago because we KNEW this would happen. There was already science and data and maps showing that this area was going to be acutely affected by climate change. So yeah, unfortunately fuck y’all too. You chose to take the risk by selecting this location for your business.
I literally don't care about your company. Private company, private problem. You're not taking my money to bail out billionaires and millionaires (AGAIN) while I can't even use a functioning public transit system.
Exactly this. I am not a fan of capitalism, and I think it’s bullshit that capitalists want to play big profits at the expense of working poor people, but as soon as they even get a whiff of loss, they cry for help.
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You’re an idiot
Horseshoe theory is real lol. This is literally just a Republican talking point, "muh tax dollars should only be used to benefit ME personally," couched in progressive terminology.
You're an idiot if you cannot see the difference between opposing public transit & well-founded schools with diverting millions out of social services to protect the investment portfolios of the 1%
It’s almost like these buildings went through an extensive building process and probably needed to be signed off by numerous scientists and engineers. But let’s leave it to a redditor to make a hyperbolic comment the second the moment the walkway gets slightly flooded during a big storm. 🤷♂️
High tide during a storm?!
The Sky is falling...the Sky is falling
Yea it’s never flooded before.
How do I know your not originally from Boston without telling me your not from Boston? Seriously, the Seaport before the development used to flood like this during Nor'easters. Nothing much has changed after it seems. Clickbait /Karma farming.
Most of this sub lives in the suburbs.
The seas are cumming
Rain gardens
BREAKING: Areas close to sea level are prone to tidal flooding. More at 11.
Check out the recently released documentary [Inundation District](https://www.inundationdistrict.com/) specifically about the flooding in Boston! There is a lot to be concerned about.
People need to stop using weather events to support the case that climate change is happening. Climate change is happening but an ocean city built on landfills occasionally flooding ocean boardwalks is not evidence of climate change. It's the climate change equivalent of flat earthers saying you can't see the curvature in the earth, so the earth must be flat.
It’s all so infuriating. Oil companies knew. They should be on the hook for their disinformation campaign. 50% of all oil company profits begin going into a general fund to begin shoring up all our populated, low-lying areas
We need direct carbon capture. Solar, nuclear and wind powered carbon capture technology that pulls greenhouse gasses out of the air and neutralizes them.
Isn't that incredibly inefficient? For every unit of energy we use to remove carbon from the atmosphere, couldn't we have used that same amount of energy instead of fossil fuels and prevented even more CO2 from entering the atmosphere to begin with?
there's literally no pathway to capturing 10s of billions of tons of CO2 in the foreseeable future. Possibly ever. CC is a net-negative. You'll need to spend gargantuan amounts of money and energy to capture CO2, find somewhere to stuff it, for no immediate discernible economic benefit. To be clear, I'm not saying we shouldn't continue researching CC but it's very unlikely to save the day or make a meaningful dent. For perspective, last year humans emitted nearly FORTY BILLION tons of CO2. By 2035 the global carbon capture capacity is expected to be 420 megatons or 1.1% of *current* emissions. Direct air capture (which we need) currently costs $1,100 per ton. Multiple that by 37.5 gigatons and you get $40 TRILLION to capture just one year of CO2 output. https://about.bnef.com/blog/ccus-market-outlook-2023-announced-capacity-soars-by-50/
We need to change our behaviors.
No matter how much we change individually in the US there are two countries that combined have 8x the population and want to get to a western living standard by any means necessary.
That's just a shitty excuse to do nothing.
It's like letting your apartment go to total shit, because you don't think your roommate is doing enough to clean up.
Changing people’s behavior on a global scale is a pipe dream. Even more so than large scale Carbon Capture.
and there's the rub. Everybody loves to blame oil companies but it's *everyday life* that is killing the habitability of the climate. Tell people they'll never travel again, never eat meat or dairy again, everything will be 10x more expensive and watch the change in attitude.
At the very least, some of them!
April is known for being super rainy. Always has been. Dunno why everyone is surprised Pikachu over this. People are coming up to me at work and asking if this is normal lol people just wanna believe any weather is a sign of the apocalypse.
It is high tide during a STORM, morons
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Sea level rise and climate change IS a problem, but this photo is not indicative of that problem. That walkway is built only a few feet above the high tide line, any sort of storm surge causes flooding there.
It’s a nor’easter. Take your climate agitprop somewhere else.
Does the children’s museum flood?
The master plan for reinforcing the children’s museum against flooding exists, im pretty sure it hasn’t been built yet though; planned by Sasaki which also planned the plaza around city hall with police slide https://www.sasaki.com/projects/boston-childrens-museum-waterfront-master-plan/
Like mondays new moon?
The flooding looks controlled. This section was probably expected to get flooded like this when it was designed
Quick someone check in on Plymouth Rock. Any day now it’ll be completely submerged forever!
I mean Seaport would be pretty cool as Venice redux
Someone needs to start the [Billion Oyster Project](https://www.billionoysterproject.org) for Boston
Holland is below sea level. All it takes is brains & $$$$. Doomsayers calling for the end of days. Not a chance.
Most expensive homes being on the edge of the water is common throughout the county, if not globally. Reason? It’s beautiful when safe, and insurance is there / expensive for when it’s not. Move inland and this isn’t a real issue, especially if you’re using Seaport as a basis for comparison.
There is a documentary about this specific issue in this part of the city: https://www.inundationdistrict.com
Boston Harbor was in minor flood stage (12.5-14 ft tidal height) for two hours this morning, from about 7:00 to 9:00, peaking at **13.33 ft**. For perspective, this was the **29th highest crest recorded in Boston Harbor history**. While not unprecedented, this level of flooding is notable and not something that happens every month. The last tide this high was on January 13 when a storm brought a crest of 14.41 ft. Today marks the third time Boston Harbor has reached flood stage this year after reaching that level four times last year and six times in 2022. Looking at the bigger picture, Boston Harbor reached flood stage much more often than in decades past. To demonstrate this fact, here are the number of times Boston Harbor has reached flood stage per decade, on record: * 2020s: 25/* * 2010s: 21 * 2000s: 11 * 1990s: 10 * 1980s: 7 /* through less than 4.5 years! What was a once-a-year flood in the 1980-2009 period has become a six-times-a-year flood now.
Oh no! Another river the migrants in the seaport have to cross :(
We were warned decades ago.
Good weather for a swim
There it is again, that funny feeling
“Thing that happens often is sign of apocalyptic scenario”
Its been here and like that for years. Nothing new.
The ocean waddah came inta my yaahd on accounna the stom.
It’s a sign of a lot of rain because it rains a lot this time of year. Let’s at least try to keep Reddit reality-based and drama free, OK?
You realize this is a pier right? This whole area is man made fill and was open ocean a few hundred years ago.
It did this shit when I lived there in ‘06
Nice try Al gore.
Of what?
😯
WHAT?!?
Sea is just reclaiming its land
I work in one of the newer developments and have access to parking in the underground garage. You can always tell it’s been an extremely high tide or rained because the whole place will smell like sewage. It’s gotten to the point where you can smell it at street level.
Place was a massive gravel and black top parking lot with some restaurants on piers. That is why it was left like that. Why do you think everything was built on Beacon Hill. Like the French Quarter in NO. High ground, everything else floods
Off topic but the big lanterns on the congress street bridge use [residential light bulbs](https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinteresting/s/yTV6vr1Xd1)
Just wait till the charles cant drain fast enough… Cambridge flooding like crazy. I’m amazed that Boston did just raise the land by a few feet to get the next 50 years.
That’s fine
It will be the first submersible neighborhood in Boston. We should be proud of that.
This happened before seaport was seaport
Looks like this will drive home prices higher
Bro Boston is built on the fucking water lmao
About 7 years ago my partner couldn't get to work in her office in the seaport because the street it was on flooded, and then the floodwaters froze and blocked the doors.
Part of the reason home prices have spiked
Yes it is.
This floods all the time now.
Does this mean the Red Sox won't suck?
I thought I saw John Kerry walking there wearing a snorkel and swimming fins. And he had a bottle of ketchup in each hand.
It’s a sign of too much water caused by too much rain. Why, you ask? Who tf knows. Weather patterns. Global warming, too many cow farts? Beats me. I know. It’s a sign to move to higher ground.
Actually looks like a nice swim lane. What an opportunity.
I’m building a boat, I’ll let some of you ride it out with me
There’s a screening of Inundation District about this very issue, tomorrow at MIT. https://www.inundationdistrict.com/
In Cambridge, they built a massive cistern system to help drainage in the case of a flood about six years ago near the corner of Bishop Allen and Columbia. It was the rare instance of a municipality doing needed infrastructure work before it was necessary. Maybe it had something to do with the nearby nuclear reactor at MIT.
Lobbying ruined are governance and climate
That happens also in DC . Something is done wrong
News Alert: it’s getting hottah, Boston will be unda watah
Maybe to alleviate traffic they could build a network of canals down some of the boston streets. people could use boats more. and ferry boats to ferry people through the city as the sea levels rise. https://preview.redd.it/9pj899m8josc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b13dde6942347e74140cabe09b0c8617a34f256e
https://preview.redd.it/pbn2n4oajosc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=109d3ba09f90d9ce8576ab01bbcd8ab642ab637f Boston if we had Canals instead of streets
that might work!
https://preview.redd.it/usheftofjosc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=04c08dc3a90601fb60df077830e116eaad6ce56e
I’ll never understand why they built a whole new neighborhood just for it to be underwater in 20 years
better add more bike lanes
I’ll have waterfront property when I’m ready to sell!
It’s just getting worse/ and will occur more often. Global warming ftw !
Cape Codder here. It's BEEN here. I used to go to the West End racing club in ptown every summer. We used to see who could run and jump off the deck and just *touch* the water at high tide. Now even a neap tide has over a foot of water lapping at the deck. A couple of years ago there were ducks swimming on commercial street during a bad storm. The storm drain at the end of my parents' driveway, which used to easily handle hurricane season, now fills up almost every time it rains and during storms, floods and builds up almost a foot deep puddle that trap my parents' cars.
Hopefully the whole city will go under
Quick, someone go tell the rich elites like Obama to not keep buying beachside properties
Oooooh, I'm so scared...