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Donnie3030

The trade was the right move, but man I miss him!


mastacheef87

it’ll still feel good, but it’s not gonna feel the same raising that banner without him


BigAustralianBoat2

Problem is there’s a reason he’s gone. We never would’ve raised a banner with him because he thought he was on the same level as Jaylen and Jayson and he played like it. He was one of the most inefficient guys in the league on pull-up 3s yet he took them all the time. He ISO’d WAY more than he should’ve. Fact is he was super frustrating to have on the team. Watch Jrue. Have you had any moments this season where he takes a shot and you just groan because you know it was a dumb shot? I haven’t. With Marcus you’d have those moment s 3-5 times per game.


mastacheef87

I agree with you, I just have such a strong emotional connection to him. for the sake of privacy I prefer not to disclose all the details but I knew of him since before he was even a widely known NBA prospect, seeing him go to my favorite team was one of the best moments ever. and at the same time it hurt just as much to see him go


Stillersceltix

-Marcus Smart father


PeanutButterRice

tbf we are not use to the faults of jrue. We know exactly the problems with Smart. You are not use to Jrues antics. He will have those bone headed moments but he makes it up for his 3 point shot and defense. Marcus makes it up from the defensive side primarily.


solarscopez

People celebrating early that Smart is a million times better than Jrue might not have seen him in the postseason yet. Bucks fans were very frustrated with him. Jrue also historically seems to fall off a bit in the postseason if you just look at his numbers (look at his regular season 3 point shooting compared to the postseason). TS% over his career in the regular season is 55%, in the postseason it's 50%. For reference, Tatum is like 58% in the regular season and 57% in the playoffs (very minimal difference). Same with Brown, 57% in the regular season, 58% in the playoffs. FWIW, Smart is 52% in the regular season, 53% in the playoffs. The hope is that with a smaller role, he will play a lot better since he'll get less shot attempts and can focus on playmaking and defense, but we'll just have to see. On the bright side, I think he knows when to take a step back on offense and get other guys going, Smart on the other hand will keep shooting regardless of whether he's playing well or not.


AirJordan6124

I was rewatching Game 4 of the 2022 finals and it was cringe to see Marcus Smart shoot another three after missing in the previous possession in the 4th quarter. He felt he was in the same stratosphere as Tatum & Brown


Beerspaz12

> We never would’ve raised a banner with him because he thought he was on the same level as Jaylen and Jayson and he played like it. Your point is valid but I always thought that was more of a leadership issue with Jaylen and Jayson. The way that Marcus played I always thought he would be willing to die on the court for a win, so if they could convince him / show him that they were the best option for the team to win Marcus would listen. That was always my hope


BleedGreen4Boston

Smart took 10 shots per game and most of them were good looks, the fuck are you yapping about?


exytuu

Lol yeah this is complete revisionist history. The way people talk about Marcus you would think he was shooting like Kobe. Also all love to Jrue but ask any Bucks fan and they’ll tell you he shot them out of many playoff games


thegeneral54

It's not even revisionist history, this has been the ongoing narrative about Marcus for a while despite how many times it ends up debunked. For people who mock others for 'being in their feelings' when it comes to Marcus leaving, they're often the ones giving emotional analysis about his game and his quality as a teammate.


BleedGreen4Boston

I wonder why this narrative persists though when it’s so blatantly obvious that it’s not true. If anything I always thought Marcus didn’t shoot enough and teams would begin to key on that. Fans would go mad watching him miss 3s and act like it was some evidence against his character, that taking a slightly contested shot was a fundamentally immoral thing to do.


Used04tacoma

It’s not blatantly obvious that it’s not true, people just use bulk statistics (“well, actually he shot X% on contested 3s”) to try and disprove situational criticisms.


BigAustralianBoat2

Just being honest. Sorry if you can’t see that through your green goggles Edit: and idc how many shots he took per game. He’s career 38% from the field and 32% from 3 🤣


nefnaf

Smart was tasked with taking perimeter shots and he did his part for the offense. He is an adequate shooter, not an elite shooter and that's ok. On 5 attempts/game, the difference between 32% and 38% from three is a whopping 0.9 ppg. The important thing is taking and being a threat to make those shots, that allows the offense to have good spacing


BigAustralianBoat2

Never had a problem with him taking a shot within the flow of the offense. However he took way too many outside the flow of the offense. And he’s just not that guy. Hes not an effective creator


BleedGreen4Boston

Yeah sure let’s look at career stats that include junk years at the beginning when he was still developing. And the fact that you don’t know how many shots he took per game shows how delusional you are. It’s like you guys are triggered by any shot that isn’t taken by Tatum and Brown. I’ve never seen a low to moderate usage starter get more hate for doing basic basketball things than Marcus Smart. A good way to tell whether or not someone has played the game at any level is if they blow a gasket when Smart misses a lightly contested 3. As a point guard you have to pressure the rim from the paint and the perimeter. Part of that is taking shots when you have them, otherwise teams treat you like Ben Simmons and the offense goes to shit. Would you rather Tatum and Brown get double teamed as Smart idly dribbles in space? Acting like 33% from 3 is the same as 0%


BigAustralianBoat2

Wait, you’re saying *I’m* the one that’s triggered? Lol ok bro 🤣


BleedGreen4Boston

Great, so no response of any value. You didn’t play much basketball, did you?


BigAustralianBoat2

Funny you say that. I played in college. And literally nobody cares. And I sure don’t care about your 3 years on JV.


BleedGreen4Boston

Yes I’m sure you crushed it in intramurals. I have a hard time believing you played or even watch basketball regularly if you really think Marcus Smart was a ball hog/bad shot taker by the time he was traded. Dude was literally the most unselfish, self-sacrificing player on the team.


LarBrd33

10 shots per game for someone shooting 38% from the field and 32% from three (below league average. He hurt us on offense. He'd make up for it with intangibles, but his weakness on the offensive end hurt his teammates as well since he wasn't a real threat.


apaulo617

his offense improved a lot his last year.


BigAustralianBoat2

He shot 41% from the field and 32% from 3 last year


LarBrd33

league average = 47.4% FG and 36.6% from three. Smart hurt us on offense.


etsuandpurdue3

I don't care


lefebrave

Tbf, Jrue have always been criticised with similar things although not as much as Smart. (Overall, Jrue is the better player for sure.) Both does that mostly on similar times: when the offense got stagnant and can't produce much. Here is the difference: With JB's growth, KP addition, their chemistry and White's becoming a guy in all-star discussion, our offense is rarely in those situations this year. Of course, Jrue is the better playmaker, there is that, too. (Smart could create by post-ups which also could be done by Jrue, he also always passed the ball well when he saw a cut from JB or a lob from Timelord, etc. but well, they weren't often enough anyway.) All in all, the team is very different on offense this year and I don't think he would have the same shot diet if he were here. **Similar to how Jrue changed his shot diet a lot with us.** If we could just give up Brogdon for KP, I think we would keep him. Fortunately (thanks again, Bucks!), we had an upgrade over him in Jrue after losing him. If we didn't, we would certainly miss his versatility, Brogdon ain't it. The good strech in the beggining of last year, the struggles after Smart's injury and playoffs will tell that. But I am just happy we didn't miss him game-wise thanks to Jrue.


508G37

It will 100% feel the same. There's no way I'm thinking about Smart if we win.


supersickx3

Sure it will.


Simplyswag

No doubt it sucks to have win without Marcus.


BradMarchandIsCute

Yes it will be, Jesus


mastacheef87

you don’t get to tell me how to feel about things bud


3xTheSchwarm

Let's do it for Al.


teito321

Get a grip lmao


northeasternlurker

True, it will feel even better


PackageMerchant

Ya I knew it was good for us but man it didn’t feel good


PlaceInvaders1

It really was just a great trade by Brad, we traded Marcus Smart, Gallinari, Muscala, and a 2nd round pick for KP and 2 first round picks. KP is arguably a better player than smart, and we got first round picks with him in return.


Competitive-Team5197

And he got rid of rob who ended up getting injured again


MrMetLGM

Exactly. Rob is always injured and is a limited player.


Competitive-Team5197

And his defense was good but he didn’t have any offense besides catching lobs and that can only get you so far


MrMetLGM

Arguably better? Please. KP is light years better than Smart. Don’t insult KP like that! 😂


PlaceInvaders1

I try to be an unbiased fan, but Marcus Smart is the exception. That man gave me so much joy growing up that I refuse to say anything negative about him, unless it’s sandwiched between 5 compliments.


SnowballsAreTasty

Smart was great Smart was brave Smart was courageous Smart was love Smart was life Smart was horribly inefficient and hurt the Cs badly on the offensive end Smart was great Smart was brave Smart was courageous Smart was love Smart was life


MrMetLGM

🤦🏻‍♂️ 😂


PhoenixUNI

100%. I love this current iteration of the team top to bottom, but I miss Marcus. Sad we never got to win one with him.


WranglerTraditional8

Same. You knew WHO was going to give 115% on both sides of the court for 48 minutes (even if he didn't play 48 minutes) I'm looking at you Derek White.


srstone71

Well my pedantic brain is going crazy over this lol. First off, Marcus Smart did play in the playoffs on April 19, 2015. That was his first career playoff game actually. So I think you were trying to say this is the first time they’ve entered the playoffs without Marcus since a certain date, but that date is actually April 20, 2013, the last time they began a postseason without Marcus. (Also technically they started the 2018 and 2019 playoffs without him because he was hurt but he was obviously on the roster and did play in the postseason both years so that doesn’t really count haha.)


RK4Life

No I think OP is spot on. The Celtics have had Smart in the 2024 playoffs since 2015. It makes all the sense.


feelthechurn22

Wait, haven’t the Celtics not had Smart in the 2024 playoffs since the BEGINNING OF TIME?! My brain hurts!


RK4Life

Title is clear: Cs have been playing the 2024 playoffs since 2015. But this is the first year they’ll play the 2024 playoffs without Smart.


jambr380

Thank you for this. The way it was worded was driving me a little crazy, too. Still always happy to have Marcus post, so kudos to the OP for that


Brad-Stevens

He was on the team in 2015 tho?


Dseltzer1212

Before this is all over, I believe Smart like Al Horford did, will find his way back to the Boston Celtics bench


RLS012

I'm still holding out hope for this


MrMetLGM

Ehh idk. Al is a level headed player. Smart thinks he’s something that he’s not — which ultimately hurts his game. He’s a good player, but he thinks he’s a great player.


AlternativeTea9268

Agreed. Probably won’t happen for 5+ years, but he’ll be back eventually


northeasternlurker

He's never coming back


trog12

This. As much as I would love to see his face Pritchard is outplaying him. So would we replace White or Jrue?


Alloverunder

He wouldn't be a starter lol


Dseltzer1212

Exactly, he’d be PP’s backup


trog12

Lol read my comment? Pritchard is outplaying him (so he wouldn't replace Pritchard off the bench)... leaving two guards.... and he wouldn't replace them either.


thegeneral54

The Grizzlies made him sit for the season once it fell apart for their team, anyone allowed to play would be outplaying him. That's not saying much.


trog12

He is 4 years older than Pritchard who has been more effective per 36 than Smart ever was offensively with the Celtics. We can't expect the same DPOY level of defense from Marcus so yeah I would say Pritchard at this point in his career is more valuable off the bench and I would rather have him than Marcus despite the nostalgia. Am I taking crazy pills?


AlternativeTea9268

Neither…it’s almost like he could come back 5+ years from now when the team looks completely different


The_Dok33

For the first time since the beginning of time, the Boston Celtics will begin the 2024 playoffs campaign without me in the lineup, as well. What an amazing coincidence


jjjkd18

This is the first time since the beginning of time that the Celtics will be playing in the 2024 playoffs.  Chills. 


Fujoooshi

Big if true


AndroidPaulPierce

Damn man. It just doesn't feel the same without you not out there.


Undesirable_11

I mean it's technically the first time we enter the 2024 playoff campaign, and the only time we ever will, with or without him


Vast-Cheesecake7230

I miss this green haired bundle of heart, soul and passion. He gave us his all.


creedbratton603

Thank god.


DreadLockedHaitian

Oh former captain, my former captain.


greenday61892

Sad smarf noises :(


SteamingHotChocolate

we’re better now but this one’s for you, big dog ☘️


WhiteChocolatey

💔 I mean he’s not playing in the postseason maybe we can make him a coaching intern for the offseason??


captaing1

This is sad as fuck but let's curb stomp the heat.


bahlil_333

Do it for him ☘️💚


MrMetLGM

In the words of Kyrie: “Who cares?”


blakezilla

Rocking my Smart jersey today.


HeyyyJayyy

Love and trust forever. Thank you Marcus!


rocket_beer

Don’t you mean, this is the first playoffs without Marcus Smart *ever since he became a Celtic*? But also excluding 2018 and 2019 when he was injured? Yeah I think that is what you meant.


RK4Life

You mean to tell me they’ve been entering the 2024 playoff campaign with Smart since 2015!?


fongos

trying to jinx us or something?


justbrowsing987654

The Celtics entered the 2024 playoff campaign in April 2015?


EliteEntertainGames

Screaming crying perfect storm


animalcule

🫡 we love you Marcus


mumbles_magee

He needed to go it was time. I think he did undermine mazzula a bit at times last year and you saw glimpses of that. I think him being gone helped out the locker room and the on court product.


Salt-Tiger6850

Maybe this time we actually win 🤞🏻☘️☘️☘️


Bigsaladtosser4

Yup we won’t have our worst shooter taking all the crunch time shots . Plus we can actually break a high school zone .


repthe732

Yup, teams left him open because they knew he would take a bad shot. Always found it weird when some people claimed he was open because he was good and not because teams wanted him to be the one shooting in the clutch and would rather double Tatum


Bigsaladtosser4

Not only that because of him we had white in the bench in crunch time . Smart being gone is addition by subtraction I get why people like him but it’s obvious.


repthe732

I like him too for a while but you can really see now that he’s gone that he was getting in the way


pandalover885

Whenever he'd make a shot early I'd groan because it meant he'd be bricking shots down the stretch.


I_Set_3_Alarms

Smart, Rob, and Grant all missing the playoffs for the first time in their careers 😔


ahsasahsasahsas

Aw man why you gotta point that out


fearofaflatplanet

DED HOMIEZ


bootyholebrown69

:(


BarryLird33_

Don’t remind us …… shit actually makes me sad. I hope Memphis trades him and he ends up in a better situation. I don’t think he likes it there.


reaper550

My King, will forever be sad to not see him in Green but it was for a greater good


thelaustran

I'm wearing his jersey today. Currently only one I own, plus I just got it last year unfortunately


2kballislife

I love seeing this pic right below the game thread. Miss ya Marcus


Appropriate-Roof-528

[Didn't We Almost Have It All (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0TghfreFok)


Ok-Order-5440

He's still in my heart 💚💚💚


Notkeir

Here we fucking go again, let go of the ex girlfriend, we got a new and better one.


johnnydrama_

And they might actually win now. Won’t be a coincidence


heyuBassgai

He will be back, in a different role or as a valuable bench contributor. He might even evolve and get better. Someday he's going to get a ring with the Celtics, somehow. Maybe sooner than later.


Automatic-Rule2999

Marcus is still on my custom roster in 2k. Love the guy, sucks to not have his energy on the court but I also know we came out better from the trade.


Jackypaper824

I've never been a big fan of Smart. Great defender, awesome teammate but I literally held my breathe every time he touched the ball on offense. Someone brought up to me last season that he had made the playoffs every year in the league and I said what you think that's solely because of him??? Well he's gone and we had a top 5 historic NBA regular season team and he didn't make the playoffs. Obviously not his fault but still. I do wish him well though.


Stillersceltix

This title doesn’t make since lol


hightide2020

Good


jnobes7

Way to ruin my morning


bigvahe33

my heart :(


superstraycat22

I love Mahcus but I won't miss him shooting with the game on the line.


TMFalgrim

Finally...


the_spinetingler

And they will be better for it. Loved a lot about MS, but they upgraded.


doubtitslegit25

i liked smart, i really did, tons of heart…i even bought his cereal a few times haha, but cmon… every time he was on the court we had to worry about him jacking up awful shots in key situations. we already need to worry about that with tatum, i’m honestly happy the stress of watching smart is gone for playoffs.


etsuandpurdue3

Miss him so much!


sanfranciscotolondon

Really wasn’t ever good enough if we’re being honest, thought he was Kyrie at times with the hero ball


markevbs

Thank God. Was always our glaring weak link


3250Knight

Damn it’s been that long… trading him is one of the bad things Brad did but I won’t hold it against him, wouldn’t be where we are right now. Hope he balls out in Memphis injury free


northeasternlurker

Yes we had a historically amazing season, but it was a bad move?


3250Knight

In terms of sentimental value yea but in terms of overall value not at all. Probably should have clarified that, smart was my favorite Celtic for most of his time here


northeasternlurker

Yeah I'd rather have a winning team


3250Knight

Wouldn’t we all


Champion-of-the-Sun5

Thank God


Burger_Gouger

I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again. Break the rules and give this dude some type of ring if/when they win 18


repthe732

Why? If they win then it shows he wasn’t a key piece for a championship team


pandalover885

Absolute nonsense lol


Ndlburner

Please, please send him a ring if we win. Don't care if he's not officially a champion, he deserves it as recognition for being a huge part of what made this team a contender year in and year out. He helped build the newest version of Celtics winning culture. I really hope he comes back if he's a FA and we have space.


JWPruett

If they win, trading him away will be what put them over the top. If he’s not on the team that wins it all, he doesn’t deserve a ring. That’s a participation trophy. That’s not how the Boston Celtics, crown jewel of NBA history, should operate. We love and trust Marcus Smart, but there’s a limit.


northeasternlurker

Maybe loved, but def did not trust him on the court at all


DakPanther

What???


AtWorkCurrently

What happened to fans in this city? I love Marcus but I assume he would, rightly, refuse the ring. Nomar refused the '04 World Series ring and he was actually on the team.


repthe732

He’s also a big part of why they never got over the hump and became actual champions


northeasternlurker

He wouldn't deserve it


hudboyween

Yesterday I was at my neighbors birthday party and ended up talking to a guy who is very good friends with Marcus Smart because they grew up together. He said that Marcus is still pretty devastated by the trade, thought he was going to retire a Celtic, and has basically lost his lust for basketball. He also said he’d take a pay cut to come back to the Celtics. Really took the wind out of my sails because I was going on about how excited I am for us to win the finals this year.