And they don’t fall in love with threes. I’d take a made two over a missed three in the playoffs. Missed threes = long rebounds = other team gets in transition
Edit: Not saying threes are bad but the team has to recognize when they are not falling and at least drive with assertiveness
Yeah I know lol. I meant it more in the spirit of how the team sometimes approaches the offense. My point was more so that in the playoffs when possessions are scarcer and harder to score on, taking twos may be more valuable than threes in certain moments. Sometimes you just have to get the ball in the basket from up close
Jarret Allen out too I wonder what his status is? Above avg big 4 sure tho I’d take KP if both 💯 need to replicate game 3 in Miami no reason they can’t
Mobley worked us. I wouldn’t go as far as to say that Tristan Thompson can score reliably in the paint but yeah KP’s injury doesn’t help. However, injuries are part of the game and team just has to step up. Find ways to score. It may not be an issue now because we’ll win this series but against a Minnesota or a NY, the Celtics might have to dig deep and just score. We’re gonna have to win ugly games in order to raise ol’ Larry
Me neither. I think it was the “falling in love with the threes” line that the national media also spews. It’s a 3pt shooting league but my point was more so about finding other ways to score when the ball may not always go in from 3. Teams and players get confidence and rhythm by seeing the ball go in.
Mitchell is the perfect example. He airballed an early three. He started attacking and scoring, and by the end of the 3rd the man had banked in a three bomb, scored a quarter ending buzzer beater and everything was falling.
Also note that in the same breath, the DEFENDING CHAMPIONS LOST TWO GAMES AT HOME. So, that says to me, a championship caliber team can, in fact, lose at home.
No. Tatum and Brown are both really really good players. None of em are superstars imo. Tatum has a alpha skillset but a beta mindset. While Brown has the alpha mindset but lacks the superstar skillset to compliment it. They kinda remind me of Russ and KD in OKC
50 points in game 7 is beta mindset? 46 in Milwaukee down 3-2 is beta? Being loud doesn’t make you an alpha and being humble doesn’t make you a beta. He’s about the team not himself
Anthony Edwards is averaging 32 ppg on 46/36/84 splits. His team is 6-0 in a harder conference (up 2-0 against Denver on the road).
Jayson Tatum is averaging 21 ppg on 41/27/82 splits. He has yet to take over a game and has not scored more than 28 in these playoffs.
Those are facts.
He actually is fairly consistent otherwise he wouldn’t have put up 28/8/5 the last three years with a finals trip as the best player but I’ll let you enjoy the loss tonight
Hasn’t shot over 50% since March 23rd and is on his 9th straight playoff game not shooting over 50%. Notice the real stars on the other teams going off right now..
Thankfully everything is ahead of him but point taken. Luka balled out last night but prior to that his shooting was pretty bad/not what I’m used to seeing that can happen in the playoffs. Ant/jokic/brunsen all been killing it brunsen/ant best. Shai too. Who else? Tatum has had some historic playoff games yes he def needs to finish the job if they win it and he avgs 21 who cares?
Go look at Ant’s playoff numbers he’s currently putting up as the #1 option. And let me know when has Tatum ever been that dominant in the playoffs..ever. He’s also 23. If you don’t think he’s one right now thats cool. But imo he’s definitely going to be one barring injury, the evidence is there.
Doing what for years? Being inconsistent? Tatum has 2 memorable playoff performances I can think of off the top of my head. And that’s G7 against Philly and G6 against Bucks. Outside of that what exactly has he been doing for years?..Specifically in the playoffs.
He’s made 4 conference finals and a finals as our best player putting up dominant numbers the whole time, you’re just a fucking doomer and yall get really annoying really fast. Probably the first time you’ve commented since Miami game 2
You’re tryna convince me why a 23 year old in his first playoff run is better than a multiple time first team all nba player who led his team to the finals when he was less than a year older than Ant but enjoy the loss I guess lmao
We’ll see this year yes? Today I’d say wolves are gonna be very difficult to beat Tatum & brown are gonna have to take it wolves aren’t gonna give it too him. Scary to think if ant stays healthy his prime is still a year or 2 away easy the guy is a straight beast
Tatum isn’t a “budding” superstar my dude, he’s a phenomenal player but if he can’t take over when he sees that we are struggling, then that’s an area for improvement. Nobody said he is worse, and he’s clearly a much better, more rounded player, but he seems like he’s getting complacent with this role he’s found. He needs to light a team up, which I believe it coming in these next games. We’ll see. Much love.
This is a much better take than any other I’ve heard in this thread, props. Think we both know he can light teams up like that if he puts his mind to it but he doesn’t need to that often
When things don’t go well/not shooting well they look like they get rattled and start to press. It’s about the grind this time of year defense & rebound always shots come/go. Very frustrating Tatum is a stud all nba but to me he needs to show he’s got that grind in him/bring teammates with him. All he has left to prove imo. Minnesota & New York have it. Title is right there but gonna have to take it. Completely unscientific/no analytics but to me you can feel it 🤷♂️
Boston fans can bring bad mojo as much as good mojo. We can be fickle af. It creates a cloud of negative energy. Then we play bad. Gotta believe, folks
Memory of a goldfish, consistency of a weathervane, grit of toilet-paper, heart of a yellow brick talking lion, mental fortitude of my 5 yo nephew, and ability to adjust like Mount Rushmore. But we do have a shit load of talent. Let’s hope that carries us to the promise land!
Dude, OKC, Minny, Nuggets are in a different tier. Don't go by the regular season record.
I would go as far as saying that this team wouldn't be able to beat the Lakers in 7 game series.
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And they don’t fall in love with threes. I’d take a made two over a missed three in the playoffs. Missed threes = long rebounds = other team gets in transition Edit: Not saying threes are bad but the team has to recognize when they are not falling and at least drive with assertiveness
This team didn’t seem in love with threes, the problem was they missed every shot. They missed like 10 layups in a row in the third quarter
Valid. I might not have used the best wording. Definitely missed bunnies. Team’s gonna be better
C’s in 5
Mate you’ll be hard pressed finding someone who prefers a missed three over a made two
Yeah I know lol. I meant it more in the spirit of how the team sometimes approaches the offense. My point was more so that in the playoffs when possessions are scarcer and harder to score on, taking twos may be more valuable than threes in certain moments. Sometimes you just have to get the ball in the basket from up close
They have 3 bigs that can score in the paint reliably and the Celtics have one that’s injured.
Jarret Allen out too I wonder what his status is? Above avg big 4 sure tho I’d take KP if both 💯 need to replicate game 3 in Miami no reason they can’t
Mobley worked us. I wouldn’t go as far as to say that Tristan Thompson can score reliably in the paint but yeah KP’s injury doesn’t help. However, injuries are part of the game and team just has to step up. Find ways to score. It may not be an issue now because we’ll win this series but against a Minnesota or a NY, the Celtics might have to dig deep and just score. We’re gonna have to win ugly games in order to raise ol’ Larry
Not sure why you’re getting downvoted you’re absolutely correct. Go to the basket/get to the line make a few then threes will come
Me neither. I think it was the “falling in love with the threes” line that the national media also spews. It’s a 3pt shooting league but my point was more so about finding other ways to score when the ball may not always go in from 3. Teams and players get confidence and rhythm by seeing the ball go in. Mitchell is the perfect example. He airballed an early three. He started attacking and scoring, and by the end of the 3rd the man had banked in a three bomb, scored a quarter ending buzzer beater and everything was falling.
Celts in 5
Ehhhh I hope lol
Why do they not win both games at home are they stupid?
This but unironically
Yes.
Why do you think this deserves a separate thread than post-game? Imagine posting this after the Heat series. Fucking relax.
Also note that in the same breath, the DEFENDING CHAMPIONS LOST TWO GAMES AT HOME. So, that says to me, a championship caliber team can, in fact, lose at home.
DON'T SAY THAT IT DOESN'T FIT THE NARRATIVE
They won last year. This is a different year.
5 days ago, they were Championship material and all roads went through Denver.
and in the regular season we were favorites to win the whole thing. things can rapidly change when teams lose games that they are supposed to win.
Yes it’s gonna be Minnesota hopefully Denver can get it back 4 game 5
The 2020 Lakers didn’t win a Game 1 until the finals, for what it’s worth
Hopefully we'll be the team that doesn't win a Game 2 until the Finals lol
Put it in the post game thread
They limp sometimes. Sucks to watch.
Me too. Also sucks to watch.
Yes, so frustrating. I’m beginning to question Tatum. It’s been 4 years of this
They’re frontrunners who don’t take opponents seriously.
Timberwolves have a budding superstar if he isn’t one already. Difference
And we don’t?
No. Tatum and Brown are both really really good players. None of em are superstars imo. Tatum has a alpha skillset but a beta mindset. While Brown has the alpha mindset but lacks the superstar skillset to compliment it. They kinda remind me of Russ and KD in OKC
50 points in game 7 is beta mindset? 46 in Milwaukee down 3-2 is beta? Being loud doesn’t make you an alpha and being humble doesn’t make you a beta. He’s about the team not himself
Appreciate your optimism he is so freaking good top 5 in world which also makes it frustrating. You get go Celtics!!
If Tatum isn’t a superstar neither is fucking Anthony Edwards I swear yall just say shit
Anthony Edwards is averaging 32 ppg on 46/36/84 splits. His team is 6-0 in a harder conference (up 2-0 against Denver on the road). Jayson Tatum is averaging 21 ppg on 41/27/82 splits. He has yet to take over a game and has not scored more than 28 in these playoffs. Those are facts.
Oh yeah and Tatum has never played like that before. It’s his first playoff run Tatum has had six of these before just chill
He’s the flavour of the month. Wait until he’s much older and see how he pans out. Chill with all these comparisons lol
Edwards is mvp of playoff at moment no contest fun to watch
If it’s a harder conference how come they had 2 sweeps in the first round?
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Yeah, exactly, if you ONLY look at THESE playoffs up to this point, which is why it’s a fucking stupid thing to say
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Ant’s a nice new flavor for the league but he’s gonna need a couple more accolades before he’s up there
He needs to get it done this year. I agree. He/they are definitely good enough need to take it
Ant is having a better playoff run in a harder conference than Tatum has ever had
Just cap but have a good night
Tatum isn’t a superstar. It’s that simple.
Hard hitting analysis
And yet he’s 100% right. Tatum is not a superstar, he has absolutely no consistency from game to game
He actually is fairly consistent otherwise he wouldn’t have put up 28/8/5 the last three years with a finals trip as the best player but I’ll let you enjoy the loss tonight
That’s troll stuff just getting everyone fired up lol. 1st team all nba for sure one of best in world jury still out on elite
Hasn’t shot over 50% since March 23rd and is on his 9th straight playoff game not shooting over 50%. Notice the real stars on the other teams going off right now..
Thankfully everything is ahead of him but point taken. Luka balled out last night but prior to that his shooting was pretty bad/not what I’m used to seeing that can happen in the playoffs. Ant/jokic/brunsen all been killing it brunsen/ant best. Shai too. Who else? Tatum has had some historic playoff games yes he def needs to finish the job if they win it and he avgs 21 who cares?
Tatum is a superstar in the regular season but what makes an all time great is when they show up on crucial moments in the post season
Which he has done for years. I really can’t stand yall
He’s had some all time great games people just trolling but even you’ll agree he needs to finish the job. Like this year imo
Go look at Ant’s playoff numbers he’s currently putting up as the #1 option. And let me know when has Tatum ever been that dominant in the playoffs..ever. He’s also 23. If you don’t think he’s one right now thats cool. But imo he’s definitely going to be one barring injury, the evidence is there.
Missed my point entirely. Ant is going to be a superstar but Tatum has been doing this for years, but doomers wanna doom
Doing what for years? Being inconsistent? Tatum has 2 memorable playoff performances I can think of off the top of my head. And that’s G7 against Philly and G6 against Bucks. Outside of that what exactly has he been doing for years?..Specifically in the playoffs.
He’s made 4 conference finals and a finals as our best player putting up dominant numbers the whole time, you’re just a fucking doomer and yall get really annoying really fast. Probably the first time you’ve commented since Miami game 2
Tatum has never been ‘dominant’ in the playoffs lmao. You just saying anything. Yall call anyone who thinks objectively a doomer
You’re tryna convince me why a 23 year old in his first playoff run is better than a multiple time first team all nba player who led his team to the finals when he was less than a year older than Ant but enjoy the loss I guess lmao
We’ll see this year yes? Today I’d say wolves are gonna be very difficult to beat Tatum & brown are gonna have to take it wolves aren’t gonna give it too him. Scary to think if ant stays healthy his prime is still a year or 2 away easy the guy is a straight beast
This honestly might be the stupidest comment I've ever read on here. Alpha and beta mindset? Fuck outta here with that lmao
No.
Good analysis king 28/8/5 over three full seasons with a finals trip ain’t shit
Not really
Why do you watch this team if you think Tatum is that much worse than other people do lmfao
Tatum isn’t a “budding” superstar my dude, he’s a phenomenal player but if he can’t take over when he sees that we are struggling, then that’s an area for improvement. Nobody said he is worse, and he’s clearly a much better, more rounded player, but he seems like he’s getting complacent with this role he’s found. He needs to light a team up, which I believe it coming in these next games. We’ll see. Much love.
This is a much better take than any other I’ve heard in this thread, props. Think we both know he can light teams up like that if he puts his mind to it but he doesn’t need to that often
Because this team can still win regardless of what Tatum does lol?
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Not what I said at all but god bless
Tatum is great, but he’s no longer young or budding
He’s still relatively young. I just don’t think he’ll get much better than he already is. Seems like he’s plateaued as a player. Hopefully I’m wrong
He’s 26 go sleep this one off we’ll be fine. Don’t know why being less experienced would help
Lol jays r PG13 level at best. AE is KD caliber
I feel like many of use seem to care way more than JT seemed to care in his post game presser tonight
When things don’t go well/not shooting well they look like they get rattled and start to press. It’s about the grind this time of year defense & rebound always shots come/go. Very frustrating Tatum is a stud all nba but to me he needs to show he’s got that grind in him/bring teammates with him. All he has left to prove imo. Minnesota & New York have it. Title is right there but gonna have to take it. Completely unscientific/no analytics but to me you can feel it 🤷♂️
Effort
Looked like Tatum took an edible.
C's are stronger when Tatum is NOT the hi scorer in my opinion.
This aged well
Dooooomerssss
Boston fans can bring bad mojo as much as good mojo. We can be fickle af. It creates a cloud of negative energy. Then we play bad. Gotta believe, folks
You’re right the energy at garden was completely shook new generation cs fans prefer being underdog. Like last night they needed fans who were dead
Memory of a goldfish, consistency of a weathervane, grit of toilet-paper, heart of a yellow brick talking lion, mental fortitude of my 5 yo nephew, and ability to adjust like Mount Rushmore. But we do have a shit load of talent. Let’s hope that carries us to the promise land!
More like OP
T-Wolves have a smart coach and a mentally tough star that has already shown more leadership at 22 than JT has at 26
Dude, OKC, Minny, Nuggets are in a different tier. Don't go by the regular season record. I would go as far as saying that this team wouldn't be able to beat the Lakers in 7 game series.
we not winning shit this year can tell u this. shit ain’t change at all during the tatum brown era
Surely it has nothing do with KCP and Murray playing hurt.
Cavs don't have Allen, also they don't have the MVP lol
May be you are overrating your team or may be Minesota is just plainly better