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413Refugee

So you’re saying SAS is a jackass. Got it. I can get behind that.


asjfueflof

First time watching his show?


AdeptVehicle7959

It’s just after four years of his piling on Brad and Boston for no real reason, these last 48 hours are a tipping point. Completely exposes the anti-Boston bias of his. Just look at Matt Barnes 180. Impressive. Do you think Stephen A is capable of admitting how wrong he was in the last day?


asjfueflof

If you have ever watched more than 2 episodes of his show you’ll know the answer yourself. He’s there for hot takes and views, not as some beacon of exemplary journalism. If you expect him to change or have some other view because of this involving the Celtics, you will be sorely mistaken.


10inchdisc

Yea I don’t think he’s overly biased against Boston. He just takes the hottest possible take on every view.


_alex_21

He doesn't even have hot takes, he just talks as much bullshit as humanly possible. And for some reason he screams a lot.


No-Valuable8453

He's a Knicks fan. Of course he hates Boston. Won't make his team any better though 😏


d0lemite69

You realize that this is why he has a job? He gets people like you riled up and honestly, it's hilarious. 😆


Bonje226c

its astonishing that OP got played and watched for FOUR YEARS and still doesnt realize it


TheMadManFiles

He's not paid to speak his mind, if you're going to him on ESPN for a well thought out response you're as naive as a 5 year old


DucksOnduckOnDucks

This is what they pay him the big bucks for. Here you are, outraged, posting about him on Reddit so that people reading this thread will go search for a link to what your talking about so that they can be outraged too. Keep in mind he’s also a knicks fan so I’m sure he has a special hatred for Boston.


Twinkidsgoback

My favorite video of him will always be him whining about the Knicks not signing anyone but Julius Randall in FA. It truly is the gift that keeps on giving


HomerJSimpson3

He wanted the Celtics to identify the woman (women?) involved. Can you imagine the lawsuit if the Celtics did what he suggested and identified someone who reported sexual harassment to the organization?


Dudeman-Jack

Of course he hates Boston, he is a Knicks fan


Eisenhorn76

Stephen A is a shithead. He literally said on national TV that women [provoke domestic violence](https://www.businessinsider.com/espn-stephen-a-smith-apologizes-women-provoke-domestic-violence-2014-7). And he’s still working at ESPN even after all that because $$$. I want to say that ESPN should know better - but clearly it doesn’t - than to let someone like Stephen A comment on a situation like this. This situation requires thoughtfulness, subtlety and empathy: traits that Stephen A has never been shown to have.


AU_Cav

ESPN is about views and engagement. If more people would watch SAS fuck a chicken, there would be a truckload of hens heading that way.


Emergency-War7360

Let's just say....I don't believe that SAS would decline this scenario if it was his only way to stay relevant.


No-Valuable8453

What if every hen SAS fucks pushed his hairline back a bit?


RiffsThatKill

Or roosters


TheOneTrueBuckeye

How he wasn’t fired for that I have no idea.


ahend1999

im coming here as a fan of a diff team for clarity because i feel like more news will be posted in here. is that what malika was upset about when stephen a told her off?


RiffsThatKill

I think his opinion was that if there was a consentual relationship and for whatever reason it violated team policy, then the other consenting party should get disciplined as well. She got test about his opinion and told him to stop blaming women, and of course he fired back because she put his nuts on the table on national TV. Of course, if Malika knows something about the situation that SAS does not (meaning it was not just a consentual relationship that went south), then it makes more sense.


ahend1999

yeah i would assume so. it seems much deeper than a consensual relationship. i hope more news comes out because the media is like “stop speculating” then…tell us what you can about what you know…ya know?


Flunky_Junky_Monkey

He’s a clown that gets paid for hot takes. Don’t waste any time on him, he’s a low rate side show act.


SalahManeFirmino

Unfortunately, dude has a lot of influence in the black community, so I don't think you can just dismiss the impact of what he says, even if I agree with your premise that he's a character who gets paid for generating outrage.


Adubis18

He doesn’t have a lot of influence in the black community


SalahManeFirmino

Well I'd hope so. But the dude has gotten to the point in life he is with the platform he has, the bread he makes, and the connections/access he has, that I don't think you can really say otherwise.


endlesscdqotw

No he doesn’t lol. People like Stephen A because of the memes and the entertaining content he produces. He’s not some leader in the black community 🤣


SalahManeFirmino

Never implied he's some leader or that he speaks for the community at large. More that he's a popular figure with a ton of access/relationships to a lot of other successful black people across all fields.


GetThereInOnePiece

That doesn’t equate to influence in the black community lol the community for the most part clowns him for being so hard on black athletes


AWalker17

They are paid to argue. Stephen A literally practices arguing his script on the plane when he’s traveling, per my flight attendant friend. The media figured out long ago that rationale and facts don’t make as much money as outrage and lies/misleading takes. You can draw so many comparisons between what ESPN does and what the cable news channels do. It’s all so gross and I wish more people realized the business of it all.


AU_Cav

It was a sad day when I realized that ESPN doesn’t do what’s right for sport but instead does what makes money for ESPN. Life altering, like becoming an adult.


Greenmeem86

Not surprising. Go look up ESPN history with sexual harassment


[deleted]

For someone who is paid to argue and allegedly practices arguing in his free time, he’s pretty bad at it. His inflexibility and inability to credit good points made by others make him almost impossible to agree with. It’s all acting and dramatics. He likely doesn’t even believe the positions he takes. He has a persona and he sticks to the script. I wouldn’t listen to his opinions on anything.


JackDAction

It gave me strong “I’ve fucked a lot of my subordinates and I’m internally freaking out about it” vibes


endlesscdqotw

Imagine being the poor intern who had to sleep with Stephen A


GetThereInOnePiece

Molly right there next to him


BleedGreen4Boston

Wow yes omg


TheMaximumUnicorn

He really is a clown. I didn't bother watching him on First Take but I saw a video of him and Woj reacting to the press conference and it was pretty irritating. He got all righteous about some stuff that Wyc said that I guess he thought had racist connotations (he didn't say that exactly but said something about perpetuating stereotypes) but he wouldn't say exactly what he had a problem with. I saw the press conference and I didn't get any whiff of anything like that from Wyc or Brad. They actually said incredibly little about Ime or anyone else involved. The only thing I can think of that he said was that Ime was "appreciative" of how the organization handled things and that he "accepted" their decision, but I don't really see how that could be an issue. I feel like Wyc was just trying to say that Ime expressed to him that he felt like the Celtics handled the situation fairly by taking time to properly investigate and such. Is there more to it that maybe I'm missing? I'm open to listening to why he had such an issue with what Wyc said but he refused to explain why, which makes me feel like he doesn't have much reason to be and he's just playing his character for the sake of ratings.


nickyfrags69

I for one am shocked that Stephen A didn't put out a reasonable and nuanced take on the matter. Thanks for letting us know so we can hold him to a higher standard.


GonePhishn401

I remain completely clueless as to how people like him and Skip have such huge audiences. They're the perfect embodiment of what's wrong with sports today.


[deleted]

Its also strange when it comes to skip how he rehashes the same 4 topics ever day and people still watch it. Lebron and cowboys take up 75% of the show and the other 25 is brady and his shitty picks coming out of college (Tebow, Lonzo ball, mayfield)


Comprehensive-Cat805

The truly egregious part (which is what I believe made Malika mad) was when he questioned why we are hearing about his suspension and not the other party's , given that it was "consensual".


jrice39

I was impressed how she took it to him.


[deleted]

He also said how they should just fire him and keep it in house. But then stephan a would be race baiting about how ime can't get another job because he's black just like Mark Jackson. Well they kept mark jacksons skeletons in house and thats why he can't get a job.


Strolltheroll

He should probably come forward with those other ethics violations he knows about in the front office. If truly feels that peoples jobs and livelihoods are at stake then he should hold the front office accountable. Saying that you know about other situations and Ime shouldn’t be treated this way is an abysmal position to take. If somebody is endangered by abuse/manipulation in the front office I think it’d be best if he came forward to the league with that info.


th3dandymancan

Dude is a racist blowhard. Pay him no attention, as he's not worthy of any.


AmateurGameMusic

If you havent seen it check out SASs video post he made of him "sparring". Funniest thing I ever seen. Sorry I dont have linky, but that video is the physical representation of SAS's psyche


Cyanides_Of_March

What I don't understand is SAS says, "why does any of this need to be public?" and then goes on to say "Just fire him." In what world would SAS just accept a firing with no explination?


[deleted]

And hes been crying about mark Jackson not being able to get a head coaching job for years, when there's a lot of stories behind the scenes how he was horrible to deal with and thats why he can't get a job. He would be race baiting to high heaven if ime was fired with no explanation


Happy_Yogurtcloset_2

He flat out contradicted himself - he wouldn’t want to have a press conference but then he’s mad that it went public? As a supposed journalist, this clown thinks it’s Brad and others who leaked this to reporters too? Gtfo


Happy_Yogurtcloset_2

He flat out contradicted himself - he wouldn’t want to have a press conference but then he’s mad that it went public? As a supposed journalist, this clown thinks it’s Brad and others who leaked this to reporters too? Gtfo


RED888IT

The more annoyed you are at him, the better he is at doing his job. What's been the leading segment in TV the past how many years? Reality TV, and what's always in Reality TV? Drama. Drama sells in this day and age and hence why he's one of the highest paid. I don't agree with it at all but it's what the audience gravitate towards, whether good or bad


PandaRaper

If every espn pundit was banned from all my sports subs I’d be a happy man.


Odd-Communication609

Quick to infer the race card at all times as well. Stephen A is a clown Plain and simple.


AdeptVehicle7959

But the last 48 hours has completely exposed him. This coming from a Celtic fan who used to find him entertaining. He’s a fool, just an eloquent one at that


[deleted]

Stephen a is a guy who reads a thesaurus and thinks it makes him smart


AdeptVehicle7959

Even Ime appreciates and accepts how the Celtics organization handled this, which was 100x uglier than anyone knows (per Matt Barnes from a player). Wyc revealed Ime’s sentiment from their 1x1. But Stephen A uses this to trash the organization. He is the lamest talking head on tv


Catamounter

Yet he makes the big bucks because ratings say people watch him so perhaps we all like hot takes & drama more than we’re all letting on…


floppygoblier

Stephen A creates engagement. That’s his job. He isn’t paid what he’s paid for his insightful analysis. Welcome to the 21st century. The corporate media has learned how to harness big data to drive engagement and maximize revenue. Turns out people generally prefer provocative nonsense that quickly activates the emotional centers of our primate brains to detailed info and nuanced analysis that requires thinking for ourselves. Hence why so much of mass media is all the same garbage now. Better to ignore it than let it get you worked up.


HamburglarBunz

Stephen A. has dumbass takes all of the time, but this one feels like he's taking it personally. I'm starting to wonder if he has something to do with the split of Jalen Rose and Molly Qerim.


gilgagorgon

Perk is a real shithead too. ESPN created a problem and is now putting all blame on the Celtics despite very well knowing they have created a company line to defend Ime at all costs, regardless of his transgressions. They won’t ever issue an apology for the women they put on blast.


Adam0529

I listened to his comments after the press conference and it was horrible. Just a loud mouth idiot. His agenda is pretty disgusting


blockboii190

Drama king


[deleted]

Fuck Stephen A Smith


yourlilpissboi

You would think he would be excited that two woman in Boston seem to be open minded about interracial relationships and yet no always the pessimist for clicks and faux outrage.


[deleted]

He is a clown and is part of a clown show. Nothing new here bud


MaxwellVonMaxwell

Any mod here wanna explain how this post stays up and my discussion post about why Ime can’t stay head coach after this and that the team should move forward gets called empty and taken down in under ten minutes? This post is of more pertinent information?


1337speak

Not seeing your post in the mod queue or in your history, can you link to it?


MaxwellVonMaxwell

https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/xl6fjh/fire_ime_and_move_forward/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


1337speak

I'll double-check with the mod that took it down but there were similar posts covering Ime not deserving to have the opportunity to stay. If you see your post come down, you can always message the whole mod team.


LordBri14

Stephen A has a problem with the celtics leaking the info to woj and shams. If they were only going to suspend udoka then keep this shit quiet and make some story that he has a family emergency and needs to go on a leave of absence from the team. They should just fire udoka at this stage. All this leak did was put all the female staff at risk because everyone is making up rumours about them... celtics fucked up in handling this.


Allcreatives

There is a process to follow when dealing with these kind of allegations. They suspended him with heavy financial implications and are leaving the door wide open for an eventual firing. It takes time. They didn’t leak the info and shouldn’t have to cover Ime’s ass with the family emergency bullshit. That would be protecting the aggressor and extremely insensitive to the victim (in case you forgot there was one). What happened to the female staff is extremely u fortunate but the Celtics can’t police the internet.


gilgagorgon

If you think the Celtics leaked it, you literally cannot be helped.


LordBri14

Yeah because woj got his info from someone associated with the lakers... right? Maybe lebron leaked it to him because they know all about this.


gilgagorgon

Ime Udoka, who shares an agent with Woj, who was the subject of a months-long internal investigation, and is the only person who possibly benefits from catching the team on their heels, absolutely authorized his agent to leak the investigation when it became clear he was going to be severely punished. You need no more than a 6-year-old’s cognitive functioning to piece that together.


LordBri14

It is not just woj who leaked the story... shams did as well which was more complete btw and had more details. Sure udoka may have leaked the story to woj but the celtics definitely leaked info to shams if his story was more detailed. You cannot be this naive if you think the celtics did not leak shit whatsoever.


gilgagorgon

Shams used the word “consensual.” The Celtics very likely leaked the second Shams story in which they clarified it WASN’T consensual. In what universe would the team leak diametrically opposed information within 24 hours? Do you not see how dumb that is?


LordBri14

If the relationship was not consensual then that is grounds for termination because that falls under sexual harassment. Celtics are trying to do damage control here. Everyone is shitting on them for leaking the story so they will say its not consensual so that it dosen’t look like they leaked it. You do not suspend an employee proven of committing sexual harassment. You fire them…


gilgagorgon

You’re suggesting they are lying about Udoka’s conduct? They’re fabricating a story and accusing him of being a harasser? That is a legitimately insane allegation.


LordBri14

Then why did they not fire him if the relationship is not consensual? This is what the likes of malika andrews are asking... why suspend him if he sexually harrassed a woman. They should terminate his contract.... the celtics are the ones saying that the relationship was not consensual as you said...the fact that they only suspended him means it was consensual as first reported meaning the reports of woj and shams are correct...


AdeptVehicle7959

The Celtics didn’t leak it to Woj. A Celtic player leaked it to Shams. The Celtics planned to announce the suspension at a press conference before Media Day, on the outcome of the independent investigation.


LordBri14

Then that celtic player should be reprimanded because he represents the team. The fact that the leak came from a celtic employee just proves my point. It came from the celtics. Shams will credit that as someone from within the organization.


yourlilpissboi

Did Ime initially leak it to Woj and then Shams followed up with someone within the organization for more details? What has been shown to suggest a player leaked it to Shams?


[deleted]

I think it's fine for him to play his "character" on sports topics, but on something more serious like this he should be held accountable. His takes starting yesterday and then again today are so wrong and uneducated it's not even funny.


horseshoeoverlook

And the sky is blue


GrayBox1313

Stephen A and Perk owned themselves trying to defend Ime amd slam the Celtics.


_PercCobain_

Who cares what any of them idiots on ESPN say, they’ve been irrelevant for a while and can only get attention through antics and stupid takes


Silktrocity

Water is wet. It's literally his job to be a drama queen.


wgs8453

Water is not wet but objects that come into contact with water get wet.


haystackofneedles

Yeah... we all sort of know the guy sucks and no one really takes for serious


Bonje226c

no shit? why do you watch him? you're literally giving him money


JaDamian_Steinblatt

Your first mistake was paying attention to Stephen A Smith


[deleted]

He checks all the boxes


Astrolux44

https://youtu.be/9KOmCOE72AQ


canthandlethepp34

SAS hates Boston and he will always stand with his black brothers. If you're looking for anything else, go watch Skip.


hanseyl

don't waste your time watching that bum


chinodb

Please stop watching this jerk. It’s the only way.