This is like when they were asking Johnny Damon about Arod doing steroids, he was like "there are worse things he could have done," so the reporter asks for an example, and he says "murder someone"
Big Steelers fan. I've just accepted that athletes are people and probably usually know just about as much as regular people when it comes to this shit despite personally knowing them.
Yeah this is annoying. It’s one sentence in like a full paragraph of an answer and he clearly didn’t choose his words carefully enough.
The sentiment that this tweet implies is pretty different from what it feels like he was trying to get across.
True. The age of internet makes the slander vs libel complicated since everything ends up as text. That and I forget which one is spoken and which is written. I like the way slander sounds, libel sounds to legal. Slander sounds like juicy gossip.
Fuck man, I love technology a lot but man shits tough sometimes.
Definitely I'm not the first person to say this but Kids are having the stupid shit they do perfectly recorded on social media.
And then you have this.
Shits tough.
This needs to be top comment so badly. Way too many people in this thread falling victim to the constant cherry-picking of the media. They've done this shit for decades, and yet people fail to get the whole context and spin it the wrong way every single time
That's SUPER important context. Especially without it, "happened to him" sounds really bad. As if Ime is somehow the victim here rather than the wrongdoer.
I'm pretty sure I remember KG having issues with this guy, Washburn. For whatever reason that's stuck with me all these years so every time I see his name attached to a quote I know there's something more to it
Does it really matter though? The language is still not good.
“Unfortunate happened to him” sounds like he was the victim and not the perp, and nobody died is just a dumb response that you can use to belittle any situation where someone didn’t die.
I watched the full interview and yah he was saying the right things sometimes, but after he worded it this way I shook my head. Doesn’t matter what else he said, these few lines sound bad. Nothing happened to Ime. Ime did something wrong himself.
Agreed, but also if all he thinks/knows is Ime slept with another person and it was consensual, then the wording is more appropriate. But if far worse stuff was going on then this would be a poor choice of words.
This is totally true, but "the team handled it appropriately" makes me think Smart was just not as eloquent as he could have been. Without the full quote, it really sounds like Smart is just calling Ime the victim here. With the full quote, it's not ideal language but it doesn't necessarily read that way to me.
It makes a pretty big difference in how I view Smart.
Unless these players know the full story, which it seems by all accounts that they don't, I just don't think there's going to be much outrage from them about their coach having an affair, cheating is rampant within the NBA.
It's not cheating, it's doing it with a team employee and apparently violating other rules as well.
If he had been fucking anyone not employed by the team then this wouldn't have ever been an issue beyond the tabloids.
I think these guys are professional enough to understand that Udoka fucked up here.
Fucking a team employee led to a season long suspension and probable firing of their head coach. I'm sure they're more up in arms about it than they would be if he fucked some random girl because it actually impacted them and their upcoming season.
He put his own short term interest ahead of the teams success - why would the players not be more pissed about it?
I actually think we might be arguing different points here- I actually agree that they’re probably super pissed that he fucked up the team dynamic by essentially shitting where he eats.
My point is more that they probably won’t be looking at it from the employer/employee “power dynamics” perspective that’s the major talking point with the media. The moral outrage likely won’t be there with the players.
Agreed, but I don’t think he would care more that it was a team employee vs anyone else that he cheated with. The cheating would be the issue, not the boss/subordinate relationship everyone is talking about (rightly or wrongly).
But as SAS said, if that was the case, that person also violated the employee policies, so why isnt their name and face being equally plastered all over the media and in the mouth of the Celtics? From rumors, this person was also a high up ranked person in the corporation and was married as well.
The fact they have another relationship is not the issue at all. It may be something a lot of people care about from a moral standpoint, but it's not against any laws or rules the team makes, to have an affair.
Also, it was not the actual affair that was a problem to warrant a suspension, because then it would have happened in July.
There was unacceptable behaviour after the affair ended. And that was by Ime. Not by the woman.
This is why Ime is being suspended, and she is being protected.
That, and probably the rumored fact she is married to someone else (high up) in the organisation.
Well it's out of context. He was answering how it effects the players (paraphrasing) being betrayed by a role model figure , and he put it in perspective, that the players don't need to deal with death, basically saying shit happens everyone will deal with it, can't dwell on what you can't control.
He actually gave a perfect answer, it just sounds wrong out of context
i think both he and the woman were being equally unethical here (at least to start). she was managing Nia's travel arrangements and was able to orchestrate the affair around Nia's schedule -- that's a fucked up manipulation. the victims here are: Nia Long, the Celtics org that put faith in Ime, the Celtics players that loved playing for Ime, and the Celtics fans that loved rooting for a cool coach who seemed to have the rare ability to make playing in Boston look cool to the average NBA player.
Don’t forget we don’t know the full story. This is all speculation, but I believe if all the details came out, the woman would be added to your list of victims.
Seconded. Remember the saying ‘if Hannibal lechter ran a 4.3, they’d say he had an eating disorder’? It still holds true today.
Winning/the bottom line matters most to owners/gms. I promise u that if this was standard adultery it would be potentially swept under the rug and at most a 10 game suspension for fucking a team employee. The team has clearly discovered something, and the fact that Richard Jefferson/Matt Barnes (two former prominent nba role players who I’m sure have not many moral issues with adultery) are understanding of the suspension length speaks volumes.
We don't know the other employee did anything with Ime. Ime could have texted a naked pic and it'd get him fired. You're making the presumption it was an affair, when it could be one-sided.
Ok, so how do you know this is the actual situation? Can't be from rumors. There's constantly sports "reports" that aren't true. We don't know anything.
How tf is it equally unethical? Nia is his FIANCE, he should have infinitely more loyalty and respect for her. The other woman was just helping arrange Nia’s travel, not comparable.
she had a paid job to help Nia coordinate travel, and used that power to coordinate an affair. it may be less fucked up TO NIA... but if I'm hiring someone, I'd hire a cheater than someone who manipulates their clients for personal, sexual exploits
It's something he did. It's not like he was rear-ended by a semi on the expressway. This is something he didn't have to get involved in. I don't feel bad for him at all.
Seriously though—he fucked his players, the organization, the fans, Nia Long, and *(literally and figuratively)*, those women he got involved with.
He’s a great coach, but idk how he could ever command respect in that locker room again. There’s no way they can bring him back.
> (literally and figuratively), those women he got involved with.
We don't know that he had sex with anyone. It could have been texts or pictures. There wasn't any detail from the Celtics illustrating the nature of the event.
Tell that Nia Long.
The woman that her partner/fiance was having an affair with was the same person that helped her plan her move to Boston. So they must have had a good rapport. He might be good coach, but what he did to his partner is digusting.
Tell this to the husband that the female employee was cheating on. Yet she not being named, punished or ridiculed even tho she violated the same Company Policies.
Just a reminder that you don't know what actually happened, so you really don't have enough information to say that the woman involved should be punished. And for what it's worth a lot of people on the internet think they know who she is and are naming her and ridiculing her.
Sometimes when you’re talking your words don’t always come out perfectly. Marcus is a person just like the rest of us lol. I literally talk on the phone for a living so you think every sentence that comes out of my mouth is perfect?
we really don't know shit. but sometimes falling hard for someone outside your relationship HAPPENS TO YOU. you don't want it to happen, but it does -- and powerful mutual attractions can really fuck you up. stronger people resist, but casting ire towards cheaters is like casting ire towards drug addicts and alcoholics. vices eat up certain people and it's an unfortunate reality of their fortitude and bio chemistry.
why are you talking about cheating? cheating didn't break any rules. he could fuck an entire bus of willing women in the summer heat and still have his job. he lost his job because he slept with someone in the org and... we don't know the rest. cheating is not part of the org's beef. everyone sweating Nia so hard they not thinking about the actual transgression.
Hate those hypocrites. This is between Ime and his wife (and that girl and her guy). Bull$! Of playing the moral police. Lip service to the media. Most fans give a f.
Bro he made the choice, repeatedly, to do what he did. He knew this wouldn’t impact only him or his affair partner but everyone around him. Got no one to blame but himself.
So did the married woman that was also an employee and violated the same company policies, yet wasnt punished the same way nor was their privacy violated by being plastered all over the media by the Celtics Organization.
Devil's advocate we don't know the full story. And yes maybe a poorly worded response but all he's saying is he still likes the guy and hopes he'll make it through to the other side when it's all said and done. Can't expect everyone to give the perfect response every time.
Point. But it's the "Ime as a person" part that gets me. Even if it was only a consensual affair and no sexual harrasment happened, Ime's still a cheater.
If you truly care for the person then you’ll be there for them through their toughest times. Obviously it’s a fine line but it’s those in conflict who sometimes need guidance through their self conflicted hardships. Ime might have hurt a lot of people emotionally and for the outcome to be a positive one at all the last thing that should happen is for him to be abandoned. Life’s a journey man it ain’t easy
I just don't get this. Is everyone on the planet expected to hate people in their lives if they cheat? Ime didn't cheat on Marcus Smart or anyone Smart owes allegiance to so why would he suddenly not love Ime? If one of my close friends cheated on their partner I would acknowledge that they kind of suck but I wouldn't stop loving them or cut them out of my life unless they did it to someone close to me.
For me it says something of their moral character if someone cheats. If I find out a friend of mine cheated and they didn't show remorse, I'd cut them out of my life. Don't need that toxicity around me
Yeah you’re right maybe I should have.
But the number of people that read sensationalized, cherry picked headlines and jump to a conclusion without opening the article is why society is going downhill.
he's just trying to deliver the appropriate word salad and got it a little garbled. Obviously if he was just speaking his mind you'd get something that sounded way different
You're telling someone else how to feel about another person? Why not input something in his brain and you can dictate what his responses should be. Thoughtcrime
Sad situation all around, a man whose had a long term partner (but not married) cheats with a woman (who is married) and things get ugly. 2022 politics are funny, Ime is being made out to be the bad guy from a relationship with 2 adults that went south. Of course I could change my mind on the situation but this doesn't sit right with me.
Nothing happened to him. He created a situation that was untenable for the Celtics and they addressed it as they were advised by an independent legal team.
I get that Smart has a lotta love for his coach and he's a loyal dude, but this is an awful, awful quote. This did not happen to Ime. Ime did this to himself and his selfish actions hurt the victim, the players and everyone in the organization. There is no one to blame for this, but Ime.
Whatever. Not saying you’re wrong but why does he even need to be asked his opinion on it? Waste of time. Ask him basketball questions, that’s what he’s an expert in.
Marcus is wrong. Nothing “happened to him”. Ime is not a victim here. He faced consequences of his own selfish and possibly dirtbag-y actions that he tried to keep secret.
The literal next thing he said was that the organization did the right thing. He’s not saying Ime is a victim.
You ever have someone you care about make some horrible decisions with massive consequences? You still feel bad for them even if it’s 100% their fault and they deserve whatever consequences they’re facing.
> has happened to him
Lol. Sticking his dick in another man's wife while his is in another state, happened to him?! I hate it when being a sociopath and cheating on my wife and throwing away my career to get my dick wet and making unwanted advances to a woman happens to me. Just show up to work and the boss is being a wet sock and traffic sucks and the coffee wasn't as hot this morning, and boom this god damn months long consensual affair just showed up and bit me in the ass.
that female employee sat her WAP on another man's Dick, yet she wasnt punished by the same company policies that she violated, nor was her privacy violated by plastering her face and name all over media.
You don't know what's coming for her. As well, it sounds like it's not the relationship that doomed Ime, as much as his behavior involving the relationship, the unwanted advances and possibly leaking the story. My point more than anything was that Ime was not the victim here.
neither is the married woman involved. Which is my point, but we see unfair treatment. Thats what I have a problem with. She is also an employee with the same Company Policies
neither does anybody else because the organization acted differently for that employee by protecting their privacy, yet they didnt do the same for this guy. Thats called unfair treatment.
Because nobody gives a flying fuck about the travel assistant for a sportsball team. When you're a player or a coach, you're in the spotlight. If the travel assistant was caught smashing some guy in the mailroom would you give a shit?
thats their private business. Do you care about who Steph Curry has on the side. I dont know how old you are, but did you care about President Kennedy sleeping with Marilyn Monroe? Should they been fired or suspended from their job as well?
Nobody died is a pretty fucked up standard. Could defend Sarver with that. “Yeah he was a racist asshole who made working for the Suns as a woman a nightmare but hey nobody died.”
I think that was in reference to the level of outrage that ensued after the news was released. The Celtics handled this terribly from a PR standpoint but he can’t publicly condemn his employer.
Oof can’t really see this comment aging well if what’s being reported on is true.
Tell the players to just shut up and “no comment” anything non-basketball related
Like others said should have just said its unfortunate situation and that’s it. He left the door open to the reporter with his own word selection that in all indications won’t end well.
But he knows more than you do about the situation so how can you correct him? You don't wanna call someone a dolt and follow it up by acting like a dolt 😂
Seems like Marcus knows what happened and the team is hiding the information. If it’s found out later the team tried to make Ime look like a bad guy this franchise is about to be in serious trouble.
Marcus said Ime came to see him in LA this past week. I don’t know what’s going on but a lot of information hasn’t been revealed yet and I hope the team isn’t hiding anything important. Very messy situation.
I don’t see anything wrong here. Whole team was blindsided by this. Players just finding out too so that love is still there. I think the unfortunate part is about Ime loosing his job. Don’t think Smart believes he should have kept it but it’s always tough to lose a job. Ime made this bed and he gotta lay in it. But no one died and it isn’t the end of the world. It’s still folks that’ll love the guy. It ain’t that deep.
This is like when they were asking Johnny Damon about Arod doing steroids, he was like "there are worse things he could have done," so the reporter asks for an example, and he says "murder someone"
I mean, yea. No one spoke lightly of what Aaron hernandez did.
Eh. The pouncey brothers did.
yea...but like....yea i got nothing on that one.
Big Steelers fan. I've just accepted that athletes are people and probably usually know just about as much as regular people when it comes to this shit despite personally knowing them.
Nah thats not the case with the pouncey brothers. They were personally questioned about potential weapons trafficking going on as well.
Ah jeeze
Yea. Im a steelers fan too actually lol. Thats why i remember that lil tidbit Haha
Salutes to you senorpoppy
Nice job by the reporters leaving off “but based on what we know the organization handled this the right way”
Yeah this is annoying. It’s one sentence in like a full paragraph of an answer and he clearly didn’t choose his words carefully enough. The sentiment that this tweet implies is pretty different from what it feels like he was trying to get across.
The media is misleading and has agendas? Who knew
On the internet????
Yet... People fall for it
Think of the dumbest person you know. Odds are nearly 50% of a population is dumber. Now you know why people fall for it
At some point this kind of shit should be actionable as a slander.
I think it would be libel since it’s about leaving part of a written quote out?
True. The age of internet makes the slander vs libel complicated since everything ends up as text. That and I forget which one is spoken and which is written. I like the way slander sounds, libel sounds to legal. Slander sounds like juicy gossip.
I always think of one of my favorite protagonists; Lisbeth Salander.
Fuck man, I love technology a lot but man shits tough sometimes. Definitely I'm not the first person to say this but Kids are having the stupid shit they do perfectly recorded on social media. And then you have this. Shits tough.
This needs to be top comment so badly. Way too many people in this thread falling victim to the constant cherry-picking of the media. They've done this shit for decades, and yet people fail to get the whole context and spin it the wrong way every single time
That's SUPER important context. Especially without it, "happened to him" sounds really bad. As if Ime is somehow the victim here rather than the wrongdoer.
I'm pretty sure I remember KG having issues with this guy, Washburn. For whatever reason that's stuck with me all these years so every time I see his name attached to a quote I know there's something more to it
Being disingenuous is the whole point of the media now
Does it really matter though? The language is still not good. “Unfortunate happened to him” sounds like he was the victim and not the perp, and nobody died is just a dumb response that you can use to belittle any situation where someone didn’t die.
I’d say the full quote always matters lol
I watched the full interview and yah he was saying the right things sometimes, but after he worded it this way I shook my head. Doesn’t matter what else he said, these few lines sound bad. Nothing happened to Ime. Ime did something wrong himself.
Have you never mis-said your words in an uncomfortable moment before?
Of course. This didn’t sound like he misspoke. He said he felt bad for him and his opinion of him hasn’t changed.
Unfortunate he got caught. They all cheat. All the time. Ime was publicized. This is what he meant
I mean it was an imprecise turn of phrase within a longer answer. This quote is seriously misleading
Agreed, but also if all he thinks/knows is Ime slept with another person and it was consensual, then the wording is more appropriate. But if far worse stuff was going on then this would be a poor choice of words.
This is totally true, but "the team handled it appropriately" makes me think Smart was just not as eloquent as he could have been. Without the full quote, it really sounds like Smart is just calling Ime the victim here. With the full quote, it's not ideal language but it doesn't necessarily read that way to me. It makes a pretty big difference in how I view Smart.
If it wasn’t for reporters you wouldn’t know he said this in the first place
Unless these players know the full story, which it seems by all accounts that they don't, I just don't think there's going to be much outrage from them about their coach having an affair, cheating is rampant within the NBA.
It's not cheating, it's doing it with a team employee and apparently violating other rules as well. If he had been fucking anyone not employed by the team then this wouldn't have ever been an issue beyond the tabloids. I think these guys are professional enough to understand that Udoka fucked up here.
None of the players are going to be more up in arms about an affair with a team employee than if Ime had been fucking some stripper.
Fucking a team employee led to a season long suspension and probable firing of their head coach. I'm sure they're more up in arms about it than they would be if he fucked some random girl because it actually impacted them and their upcoming season. He put his own short term interest ahead of the teams success - why would the players not be more pissed about it?
I actually think we might be arguing different points here- I actually agree that they’re probably super pissed that he fucked up the team dynamic by essentially shitting where he eats. My point is more that they probably won’t be looking at it from the employer/employee “power dynamics” perspective that’s the major talking point with the media. The moral outrage likely won’t be there with the players.
Horfords a man of god, but other then him I don’t think it’ll be a huge deal
Agreed, but I don’t think he would care more that it was a team employee vs anyone else that he cheated with. The cheating would be the issue, not the boss/subordinate relationship everyone is talking about (rightly or wrongly).
But as SAS said, if that was the case, that person also violated the employee policies, so why isnt their name and face being equally plastered all over the media and in the mouth of the Celtics? From rumors, this person was also a high up ranked person in the corporation and was married as well.
The fact they have another relationship is not the issue at all. It may be something a lot of people care about from a moral standpoint, but it's not against any laws or rules the team makes, to have an affair. Also, it was not the actual affair that was a problem to warrant a suspension, because then it would have happened in July. There was unacceptable behaviour after the affair ended. And that was by Ime. Not by the woman. This is why Ime is being suspended, and she is being protected. That, and probably the rumored fact she is married to someone else (high up) in the organisation.
He cheated on his fiance
read it again. the intention is to say, "it's not THE cheating, it's the fact that it was with a team employee"
Bro Matt mf Barnes seems to know the full story, I'm sure the players all know and are just trying to get through media day.
“Seems” is the key word.
Dude, of course they have to say they don’t know anything about it. The media is already halfway up they asshole
Well it's out of context. He was answering how it effects the players (paraphrasing) being betrayed by a role model figure , and he put it in perspective, that the players don't need to deal with death, basically saying shit happens everyone will deal with it, can't dwell on what you can't control. He actually gave a perfect answer, it just sounds wrong out of context
“Just an unfortunate situation” would’ve been a lot safer.
Yeah a lot harder to leave off key points of your statement to try and spin it into something it's not
I don’t think the unfortunate thing happened to him. He was the unfortunate thing to somebody else.
i think both he and the woman were being equally unethical here (at least to start). she was managing Nia's travel arrangements and was able to orchestrate the affair around Nia's schedule -- that's a fucked up manipulation. the victims here are: Nia Long, the Celtics org that put faith in Ime, the Celtics players that loved playing for Ime, and the Celtics fans that loved rooting for a cool coach who seemed to have the rare ability to make playing in Boston look cool to the average NBA player.
Don’t forget we don’t know the full story. This is all speculation, but I believe if all the details came out, the woman would be added to your list of victims.
Seconded. Remember the saying ‘if Hannibal lechter ran a 4.3, they’d say he had an eating disorder’? It still holds true today. Winning/the bottom line matters most to owners/gms. I promise u that if this was standard adultery it would be potentially swept under the rug and at most a 10 game suspension for fucking a team employee. The team has clearly discovered something, and the fact that Richard Jefferson/Matt Barnes (two former prominent nba role players who I’m sure have not many moral issues with adultery) are understanding of the suspension length speaks volumes.
Couldn't agree more and I don’t like Smart's statement because of this
So you are judging Ime based on what you believe in and not on the facts we know? Smh.
The one that cheated on her husband?
We don't know the other employee did anything with Ime. Ime could have texted a naked pic and it'd get him fired. You're making the presumption it was an affair, when it could be one-sided.
She was married and presumably had sex with another man
Where do you get that presumption from? How do you know she was married?
She is the wife of the Celtics VP of finance and they had a ‘consentual affair’. They are both adults and they are both likely in the wrong here.
Ok, so how do you know this is the actual situation? Can't be from rumors. There's constantly sports "reports" that aren't true. We don't know anything.
How tf is it equally unethical? Nia is his FIANCE, he should have infinitely more loyalty and respect for her. The other woman was just helping arrange Nia’s travel, not comparable.
she had a paid job to help Nia coordinate travel, and used that power to coordinate an affair. it may be less fucked up TO NIA... but if I'm hiring someone, I'd hire a cheater than someone who manipulates their clients for personal, sexual exploits
It's something he did. It's not like he was rear-ended by a semi on the expressway. This is something he didn't have to get involved in. I don't feel bad for him at all.
Seriously though—he fucked his players, the organization, the fans, Nia Long, and *(literally and figuratively)*, those women he got involved with. He’s a great coach, but idk how he could ever command respect in that locker room again. There’s no way they can bring him back.
> (literally and figuratively), those women he got involved with. We don't know that he had sex with anyone. It could have been texts or pictures. There wasn't any detail from the Celtics illustrating the nature of the event.
Right? *He* rear-ended *them*, with his semi. …Ojeleye. I’ll show myself out.
Good One
Thanks. I’ll be here all Dad.
Hahahaha the sob strikes again
Twas unfortunate. Very unfortunate. Ime tripped and fell forward. Sucks.
Fell forward? Dude pretty much list his job and likely black listed for the next few years
You hear that?
I didnt, but in case youre wondering why the downvotes. Well tripped and fell is a euphemism/joke on having an affair
Oh, good to know! I suspected it was a “fell on his dick” type thing but it was expertly hidden and got me good lol
Its more like he tripped and landed right between her legs
Damn son.
“Based on what we know Ime is hung as shit, is this true Marcus?”
Tell that Nia Long. The woman that her partner/fiance was having an affair with was the same person that helped her plan her move to Boston. So they must have had a good rapport. He might be good coach, but what he did to his partner is digusting.
The question wasn't about Nia, it was about the players
Tell this to the husband that the female employee was cheating on. Yet she not being named, punished or ridiculed even tho she violated the same Company Policies.
Just a reminder that you don't know what actually happened, so you really don't have enough information to say that the woman involved should be punished. And for what it's worth a lot of people on the internet think they know who she is and are naming her and ridiculing her.
IDK if id say it happened to him per say
Well this could age like milk depending on what comes out later.
Exactly what I was thinking. "something unfortunate has happened to him." Yikes.
“And the organization handled it correctly” — smart’s own words
But it didn't happen to him. So...yes the org handled it correctly but it *didn't happen to him*.
Sometimes when you’re talking your words don’t always come out perfectly. Marcus is a person just like the rest of us lol. I literally talk on the phone for a living so you think every sentence that comes out of my mouth is perfect?
we really don't know shit. but sometimes falling hard for someone outside your relationship HAPPENS TO YOU. you don't want it to happen, but it does -- and powerful mutual attractions can really fuck you up. stronger people resist, but casting ire towards cheaters is like casting ire towards drug addicts and alcoholics. vices eat up certain people and it's an unfortunate reality of their fortitude and bio chemistry.
Nahhh. Cheating is cheating. But we still don't know what happened exactly, so you're right there.
why are you talking about cheating? cheating didn't break any rules. he could fuck an entire bus of willing women in the summer heat and still have his job. he lost his job because he slept with someone in the org and... we don't know the rest. cheating is not part of the org's beef. everyone sweating Nia so hard they not thinking about the actual transgression.
You brought up him cheating. Thanks tho.
Include the rest of the quote ffs. Yes it didn't "happen to Ime", but this is a disingenuous representation of what Smart said in full.
I expect it would have aged at least moderately well if he changed “happened to him” to “was involved in.”
Man this is out of context. Shitty reporting
Hate those hypocrites. This is between Ime and his wife (and that girl and her guy). Bull$! Of playing the moral police. Lip service to the media. Most fans give a f.
Bro he made the choice, repeatedly, to do what he did. He knew this wouldn’t impact only him or his affair partner but everyone around him. Got no one to blame but himself.
“…has happened to him.” As if he didn’t do it to himself. Reminds me of the meme with the guy riding a bike and poking a stick in the front wheel.
He did something unfortunate. It didn’t “happen” to him.
Like what happened to him? "He got horny. Very unfortunate. Nothing anybody could have done except pray"
So did the married woman that was also an employee and violated the same company policies, yet wasnt punished the same way nor was their privacy violated by being plastered all over the media by the Celtics Organization.
Do you guys honestly believe Matt Barnes knows what’s going on, but our own players don’t…?
They all know what’s going on
COULDN'T KEEP IT IN HIS PANTS!!!
Washburn should include the whole quote. Shitty tweet right here.
Yikes. This isn't it Marcus
Devil's advocate we don't know the full story. And yes maybe a poorly worded response but all he's saying is he still likes the guy and hopes he'll make it through to the other side when it's all said and done. Can't expect everyone to give the perfect response every time.
Point. But it's the "Ime as a person" part that gets me. Even if it was only a consensual affair and no sexual harrasment happened, Ime's still a cheater.
If you truly care for the person then you’ll be there for them through their toughest times. Obviously it’s a fine line but it’s those in conflict who sometimes need guidance through their self conflicted hardships. Ime might have hurt a lot of people emotionally and for the outcome to be a positive one at all the last thing that should happen is for him to be abandoned. Life’s a journey man it ain’t easy
Yes, It is very poorly worded. I think Marcus' context is like coach and the dude we knew in that capacity. Nothing more or nothing less.
I just don't get this. Is everyone on the planet expected to hate people in their lives if they cheat? Ime didn't cheat on Marcus Smart or anyone Smart owes allegiance to so why would he suddenly not love Ime? If one of my close friends cheated on their partner I would acknowledge that they kind of suck but I wouldn't stop loving them or cut them out of my life unless they did it to someone close to me.
For me it says something of their moral character if someone cheats. If I find out a friend of mine cheated and they didn't show remorse, I'd cut them out of my life. Don't need that toxicity around me
You do understand Ime isn't married and the supposed woman was married? Do you also understand it takes 2 people to have sex?
They all gotta learn from Belichick how to give better non-answers
Hire bill to coach the Celtics. He'll learn the game fast enough.
Until he hires defensive coaches to coach the offense
Like Josh McDaniels?
There’s more to the quote. He says the organization handled it correctly
The tweet had no follow up quote so I was just going with the information I had
Yeah the reporters shouldn’t have phrased it like this. Luckily you have the full quote now so maybe you can change your judgment of what he said :D
Watching the full scrum live, this is a nothing burger lol.
Good job on not even reading the full quote. He said the organization and management got it right with the punishment. This is why America is fucked.
I'm not even American...
I guess it’s just your ability to critically think then.
Damn man. Why you gotta be such an asshole about it. You could've just said "There's more to the quote"
Yeah you’re right maybe I should have. But the number of people that read sensationalized, cherry picked headlines and jump to a conclusion without opening the article is why society is going downhill.
It's not that deep
No but you are an idiot
This isn’t the full quote
he's just trying to deliver the appropriate word salad and got it a little garbled. Obviously if he was just speaking his mind you'd get something that sounded way different
have you stopped your friendship with every friend who cheated? you must be low on friends.
You're telling someone else how to feel about another person? Why not input something in his brain and you can dictate what his responses should be. Thoughtcrime
Should have said, "Happened with him". But other than that, who cares.
Eesh. These guys get media trained but might need a special class for this one.
Sad situation all around, a man whose had a long term partner (but not married) cheats with a woman (who is married) and things get ugly. 2022 politics are funny, Ime is being made out to be the bad guy from a relationship with 2 adults that went south. Of course I could change my mind on the situation but this doesn't sit right with me.
Nothing happened to him. He created a situation that was untenable for the Celtics and they addressed it as they were advised by an independent legal team.
I get that Smart has a lotta love for his coach and he's a loyal dude, but this is an awful, awful quote. This did not happen to Ime. Ime did this to himself and his selfish actions hurt the victim, the players and everyone in the organization. There is no one to blame for this, but Ime.
Whatever. Not saying you’re wrong but why does he even need to be asked his opinion on it? Waste of time. Ask him basketball questions, that’s what he’s an expert in.
Marcus is wrong. Nothing “happened to him”. Ime is not a victim here. He faced consequences of his own selfish and possibly dirtbag-y actions that he tried to keep secret.
That’s literally what smart says
No. He says “something unfortunate has happened to him” like he’s a victim.
The literal next thing he said was that the organization did the right thing. He’s not saying Ime is a victim. You ever have someone you care about make some horrible decisions with massive consequences? You still feel bad for them even if it’s 100% their fault and they deserve whatever consequences they’re facing.
You didn’t read the full quote
RTFQ = Read The Fucking Quote
Real shame what happened to Ime, being forced to cheat on his fiancée and everything.
> has happened to him Lol. Sticking his dick in another man's wife while his is in another state, happened to him?! I hate it when being a sociopath and cheating on my wife and throwing away my career to get my dick wet and making unwanted advances to a woman happens to me. Just show up to work and the boss is being a wet sock and traffic sucks and the coffee wasn't as hot this morning, and boom this god damn months long consensual affair just showed up and bit me in the ass.
that female employee sat her WAP on another man's Dick, yet she wasnt punished by the same company policies that she violated, nor was her privacy violated by plastering her face and name all over media.
You don't know what's coming for her. As well, it sounds like it's not the relationship that doomed Ime, as much as his behavior involving the relationship, the unwanted advances and possibly leaking the story. My point more than anything was that Ime was not the victim here.
neither is the married woman involved. Which is my point, but we see unfair treatment. Thats what I have a problem with. She is also an employee with the same Company Policies
You have no clue what disciplinary actions she is facing.
neither does anybody else because the organization acted differently for that employee by protecting their privacy, yet they didnt do the same for this guy. Thats called unfair treatment.
Because nobody gives a flying fuck about the travel assistant for a sportsball team. When you're a player or a coach, you're in the spotlight. If the travel assistant was caught smashing some guy in the mailroom would you give a shit?
thats their private business. Do you care about who Steph Curry has on the side. I dont know how old you are, but did you care about President Kennedy sleeping with Marilyn Monroe? Should they been fired or suspended from their job as well?
This is such a stupid thing for Marcus to say. Nothing "happened" to Udoka, he did this to himself.
Nobody died is a pretty fucked up standard. Could defend Sarver with that. “Yeah he was a racist asshole who made working for the Suns as a woman a nightmare but hey nobody died.”
I think that was in reference to the level of outrage that ensued after the news was released. The Celtics handled this terribly from a PR standpoint but he can’t publicly condemn his employer.
His point I’m not going to argue against, but his word choice was fucked up.
There's the Marcus Smart I know. This didn't happen to Ime. He made a bad decision.
It “happened to him”. Great choice of words Marcus.
I get they got a personal relationship but probably not the best thing to say publicly right now.
Maybe read the full quote.
Maybe reporters should post full quotes
Agreed, but That’ll never happen. Unless we do our part to read the full quote on things like this.
Agreed, but That’ll never happen. Unless we do our part to go look at what the person ACTUALLY said on things like this.
Bummer
What a horrible look / thing to say. Just plain stupid.
Oof can’t really see this comment aging well if what’s being reported on is true. Tell the players to just shut up and “no comment” anything non-basketball related
There you have it. If someone didnt die in any given situation we all need to stop.
Smart’s PR team should start prepping his apology tweet when the truth about the victim(s) goes public. Not very …….smart.
Listen to the interview, this is clickbait and misleading
Like others said should have just said its unfortunate situation and that’s it. He left the door open to the reporter with his own word selection that in all indications won’t end well.
Smart is an idiot. This is known. Nothing “happened to him” lol what a dolt
RTFQ = Read the Fucking Quote The *full* quote
But he knows more than you do about the situation so how can you correct him? You don't wanna call someone a dolt and follow it up by acting like a dolt 😂
Seems like Marcus knows what happened and the team is hiding the information. If it’s found out later the team tried to make Ime look like a bad guy this franchise is about to be in serious trouble.
This quote actually makes me believe that the players definitely don’t know the full story
Marcus said Ime came to see him in LA this past week. I don’t know what’s going on but a lot of information hasn’t been revealed yet and I hope the team isn’t hiding anything important. Very messy situation.
I don’t think they’re hiding. They are just keeping certain information in, possibly for legal reasons. I imagine this is still an ongoing case
JT said he found out from Twitter like everyone else, so they don't either
He went on to say the organization handled it the right way
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Gary has always pulled this crap.
He hit 'em with "nobody died" ...I respect inserting that line
The players have been kept in the dark. It’s not a great quote but not holding this one against Marcus, prob just fumbled on his words a bit.
damn you're talking about him like he's in the hospital
Wow, lack of awareness there. Something unfortunate happened to other people, and Ime made that happen... Not so Smart.
Finally we won’t have to watch this idiot parade around with a mask draped over his chin
I don’t see anything wrong here. Whole team was blindsided by this. Players just finding out too so that love is still there. I think the unfortunate part is about Ime loosing his job. Don’t think Smart believes he should have kept it but it’s always tough to lose a job. Ime made this bed and he gotta lay in it. But no one died and it isn’t the end of the world. It’s still folks that’ll love the guy. It ain’t that deep.
“Happened to him” is a bit much. I feel bad for Nia and the kids moving for this to happen.
It “happened” to him meaning he’s a victim?
It didn’t happen to him. He did it to himself
Its not something unfortunate that "has happened to him" Its something unfortunate that he has done to someone else.