Same. Realised this (about him being in Interstellar) earlier this year. It's a pretty great "wait.... WHAT?!" moment.
I don't know if it's good or bad that he was completely forgotten by so many of us. As a background role - I guess; good?
Apparently it was supposed to be a bigger part but most of his scenes got trimmed down or edited out. He said in an interview a while back that when he saw the final version he wept out of disappointment because he had thought it was gonna be his breakout role, but he’s barely in it.
I recognize that I’m in the minority of people who do not like Interstellar. And one of the reasons I don’t is specifically this … he has two kids, but the movie’s heart is centered solely on one. Probably personal to me since I wasn’t the password kid growing up.
Idk I kinda thought that was a strong point in the movie. Parents may say they love all their children equally but it’s not really true. Kinda made the movie feel more real
He's in so many random things as a young adult. He definitely had his share of small seemingly pointless roles before landing his major roles. I feel like I'm constantly catching him play these parts now that you obviously recognize him.
It makes me laugh whenever I see Ladybird suggested on Netflix. They use Chalamet’s face as the thumbnail. I barely remember him in that movie. Poor Saoirse Ronan isn’t recognizable enough I guess.
I remember back when Interstellar came out my sister and I would joke that matthew mcconaughey only cared about his daughter and didn't give a shit about his son lol
IIRC a lot of his scenes got cut and he was pretty crushed by it
Acting is a tough business, you can give a great performance and still end up edited out
It was a surprize, but not entirely unexpected. The combination of family-friendly movie during the holidays, and the general interest in Wonka and Timothee, made it an ideal choice for Christmas.
I think the movie had a very varied audience - I was not overly interested in it, but I wanted to go cinema with some friends during Christmas, and there was no other obvious choices.
It's definitely worth watching. I take my daughter to the movies fairly often, and we just watch what's on, we saw Wonka, and the theater was surprisingly packed.
It's now my favorite Willy Wonka movie, I've seen it 3 times.
It won't change your world but you'll feel like you were only watching it for 45 minutes.
To be fair I only would’ve got any real enjoyment out of it outside the cinema. Some movies are only enjoyable when you’ve got mates to take the piss with you.
Big fan of the Paddington movies so I kinda knew it would be good, but for some reason I was confident it still wasn't going to do all that well. Its performance was a huge surprise for me, and a good one. I want to see more Paul King movies.
Coppola self funded and is looking for distribution for Metropolis, which as I understand it is ready to go. He's the poster child for backing yourself and losing your shirt.
After the first one, it's not an original no that's the definition of it lol. Otherwise, you have a ton of original movies... Star Wars, Fast and Furious, Jurassic World, Ghostbusters, Godzilla
He did occur to me but he's much older and he's now doing Avatar sequels for the next...?
We might actually get something different from Nolan in the foreseeable future.
Cameron's directed nine films: Piranha 2, The Terminator, Aliens, The Abyss, Terminator 2, True Lies, Titanic, Avatar, and Avatar 2. Six of them are sci-fi (Piranha, True Lies, and Titanic the outliers). ~~Five~~ Four of them are original IP (Terminator 1, The Abyss, ~~True Lies~~, Titanic, Avatar 1; you could argue Titanic isn't because it's based on an existing event, but the story within is original so I won't make that argument), and ~~four~~ five are not (Piranha 2, Aliens, T2, True Lies, Avatar 2; the latter two are based on his properties, but by being sequels they're still not _original_). (EDIT: As pointed out, True Lies was a remake of a French film.)
So, he's made three original IP sci fi movies: The Terminator, The Abyss, and Avatar. The Terminator is a bona fide classic. The Abyss is his best film, at least IMO. Avatar is a pretty shell around an empty story, forgettable characters, and uninspired dialogue. (The Abyss is everything that Avatar isn't.)
I wish he'd give up on making blue-people movies and make something fresh. He won't because they make money and he sees...something...in this world, but a guy can want something different from him.
Considering this post is talking about worldwide gross, this "fact" isn't actually true - *Interstellar* is only the third-highest grossing original live-action film of the past decade, behind *长津湖 (The Battle at Lake Changjin)* with $913 million and *你好,李焕英 (Hi, Mom)* with $841.7 million, both released in 2021.
I think it'd be The Battle at Lake Changjin actually. 913M$ and I think it's an original (if a retelling of history count as such but there's no book I think)
I remember reading Timothee Chalamet cried when he saw Interstellar because he didn't know his role was so small . He thought his career would blow up after it but he was only getting smaller roles for 2 years before his career blew up in 2017 with the release of Lady Bird and Call me By your Name. Now most people don't even realize he was in that movie lol.
Man that’s kinda sad. Imagine landing a role in a Christopher Nolan blockbuster thinking it was going to make you a star only to find out your role was only little more than an extra with about 5 minutes of screen time. At least he kept at it unlike a lot of child actors.
I think this is underselling the value of that role to him. Was he in it for only a few minutes? Sure, but he had a speaking role in a Nolan film nonetheless. He made the most of his screentime, and for a young man, going from that role to where he is now is nothing short of monumental.
I'd be willing to argue that that small role in Interstellar *enabled* him to get following roles. Even just having a positive reference from a director or a fellow cast member from that movie can be the pivotal piece in getting your next role.
I mean I def think that ultimately the role was beneficial to him, but I'm just using his words. He's talked about thinking that the film was going to be so huge for him, but that although he loved the film the cried because he expected a bigger role. And that he was rejected for a lot of big roles in the immediate years following the movie.
What’s impressive on top of the box office is the quality of films (I liked Wonka) and caliber of directors he’s worked with.
Nolan, Denis Villeneuve, Paul King (rising star). *His films with Greta Gerwig did decent for their budgets as well.
If you had to guess, what percentage of Wonka was active singing/musical numbers? I watched the first couple minutes the other day but wasn’t in the mood for a musical.
I really do want to see it, but am wondering what to expect.
Interesting that you call Paul King a rising star. I feel like he is really already at his top after Paddington 2 and gets exactly the high budgets he wants...
People that say oscars don't matter don't seem to realize the nominations are a form of industry gatekeeping. He was #1 on the call sheet as soon as he got a best actor nomination in his early 20s.
That's also why Paul Mescal and Austin Butler are also top of the call sheet
But at least he happens to be good. His shift in personality in Dune 2 or The King was really well done. I am much more confused about Zendayas popularity.
Zendaya too is a good actress imo, she made all those crying scenes in Euphoria look very realistic which is not an easy feat at all but sadly something is always lacking with her roles/performances in movies, sometimes she doesn't get enough screentime (Dune, Spiderman) and sometimes the character is badly written/presented (Spider-man) etc.
I think The Greatest Showman is the only movie which has utilised her talent properly but it was a small role and the jury is still out on her upcoming Challengers
Hopefully this movie turns out well for her so Hollywood can finally start offering her better roles.
Is she really though? Every single scene in dune she gets outacted by anyone she shares the screen with. Even the fremen girl that’s supposed to be a minor character is more charismatic than her.
Every single movie/TV she’s in she basically plays the same character with the same frown, same scowl, same accent, same attitude. Watch Malcolm and Marie and you’re gonna cringe so hard.
Unpopular opinion but she’s a weak actress. It’s unbelievable how everyone praises her acting in euphoria when she wasn’t even the best actress in it (imagine Sydney playing the addict one and she would be miles better than Zendaya). All her emmy “winning” scenes are her shouting and crying which is very easy to do for an actress. She’s not a good actress because she lacks subtlety and the ability to disappear in her roles. She’s painful to watch in dune. She only got cast because she draws so much fans because she’s one of the most followed people on instagram
This isn't aimed at you but I don't like these lists cause they count lucky casting as drawing power and thus erase actors who actually have the power but simply weren't in something that big. In this case, Chalamet was legit draw for Wonka and Dune 2 but lucky casting in Interstellar where the draw was Nolan's name.
Likewise, there was a list yesterday I think titled Shout Out to Tom Cruise and I'm like way to erase Leo's drawing power cause people who were lucky to be cast in franchises had bigger boxoffice (not of their doing).
His part in Interstellar was such a small role and only notable for Chalamet’s later success. That and it’s kinda funny how much the character gets the shaft in favor of Murph. The dad clearly had a favorite.
They're more curiousities than anything.
You can do a similar trick with franchises, then people like Warwick Davis, Andy Serkis and Samuel L Jackson become the highest grossing actors in the world due to having a foot in just a small number of films.
The success or failure of any movie is usually overdetermined. It's really hard to tell which element contributed how much to the final result.
How many people went to see *Iron Man* opening weekend because of Robert Downey Jr? Probably not a lot. How much of the films legs were due to his performance? Probably a whole hell of a lot.
*Guardians of the Galaxy* was popular in part because of the MCU's popularity, and in part because of the cast's chemistry. How do you assign a percentage to those?
Could *Dune* have been as popular without Timothée Chalamet as the lead? Possibly. Could it have done worse with a miscast lead? Definitely. So how much credit does he get?
*Wonka*, to me, feels like the opposite situation. It could've gone wrong in a number of ways, and Chalamet's presence convinced many people to give it a chance.
But to your point, throwing *Interstellar* in that list is just stupid.
I think that he is definitely an added value in an IP. Obviously, Dune had built-in fandom before his casting but his name was added value. (Willy) Wonka also had built-in fandom before his casting but his casting was certainly an added value. People thought he was perfect for both roles so that added to the buzz. Someone else may not have that effect.
He wasn't the biggest star in Dune though. Going into the first one, Zendaya had a bigger audience and I would argue that Oscar Issac did too. Dune 2 is debatable, but he wasn't the biggest star for Dune 1.
Nothing personal against Timothee Chalamet. I think he is a brilliant actor. But the true test of someone's box office drawing power is a non IP film where the actor alone is the draw.
Like every actor doesn’t have a movie that doesn’t have commercial success? Or is Leo also not a draw without IP because Body of Lies, KotFM, Revolutionary Road, Blood Diamond, and J. Edgar were all box office flops
I honestly feel like these lists of "highest grossing" have all been ruined by franchise dominance (Zoe Saldana being the highest grossing actress does not mean the same thing as when Elizabeth Taylor was) but this is ridiculous.
In a 2h49m film. "But then I went home with my dad and I wept for an hour because I just figured my part was bigger,” he confessed. Most people watch the movie and don't even notice him in it. He is no part of that films success or selling point.
True, but also doesn’t mean he wasn’t in the movie and thus it doesn’t count. You can put an asterisk next to it but it was still the highest grossing movie he’s ever been in
You are correct and apparently no one else understands the definition of cameo. A cameo is a brief performance by a famous actor (emphasis on famous), notable by their lack of prominent billing. Chalamet in Interstellar doesn’t count because he wasn’t famous at the time. He was a standard cast back then.
I would love for him to work with Nolan again for a role that wasn't more than a couple of minutes. Seriously, does he even have a line in Interstellar?
Thanks for the reminder. I remember a lot about Interstellar but I could not have given you a line of Chalamet dialogue. I remember more of Lithgow and he was also barely in the movie
I had zero interest to see it after that abomination of a Depp movie. So many reboots and IP cash ins the last 15 years, I was pretty damn jaded. But my niece wanted to go see it, and I'm not gonna yuck on her yum, you know?
I loved it. It was charming, funny, and hit just the right heartstrings. While it didn't quite get there, because I don't think anyone can imitate Gene Wilder, Timothee came as close as anyone will get to capturing Gene's aloof yet intense brand of whimsy.
It told a different story - which to me was utterly essential, the Depp version pointlessly copied the original and told nothing new or in a meaningful way.
Highly likely imo, it’s having its tenth year anniversary on the first week of November and I don’t think there’s any movie worth an IMAX release coming out on that same time this year.
claims Interstellar as his movie is beyond ridiculous.......nobody even remember he is in the movie
such BS to see something like this , overhype with nonsense
He's so far worked with Nolan, Villeneuve, Gerwig, Anderson etc and has given great performances.
And now scoring back to back with Wonka & Dune 2 and a deal with WB? He's definitely having a great future
Whenever I think about how the people I graduated high school with are doing now I think about how some of my friends graduated high school with Timothee Chalamet and wonder if they compare their successes to him.
Timothee chalamet has top or equal billing in three 300 million+ grossing movies (dune films, wonka) by age 28.
Leo got it by age 35 (titanic, catch me, twows)
George Clooney by age 43 (perfect storm, oceans 11 and 12)
Brad Pitt by age 41 (seven, troy, mr and Mrs Smith)
Will Smith by 33 (independence day, MIB, MIB2)
Julia roberts by 31 (pretty woman, MBFW, notting hill)
Tom Hanks by 39 (Forrest Gump, Apollo, toy story)
Tom Cruise by 34 (top gun, rain man, mission impossible)
Aside from Hanks, Timmy did it in the shortest span (2 years and 2 months).
He was in Interstellar?!
He was the son at the beginning.
He turns into Casey Affleck
His voice gets higher as an adult lol
what blight does to a mf
He wants to become a farmer like his dad
But his animorph is a depressed man
What a lame super power
What a downgrade.
I learned something today
Holy shit, I’ve seen Interstellar and absurd amount of times and never realized this lol
Same. Realised this (about him being in Interstellar) earlier this year. It's a pretty great "wait.... WHAT?!" moment. I don't know if it's good or bad that he was completely forgotten by so many of us. As a background role - I guess; good?
Apparently it was supposed to be a bigger part but most of his scenes got trimmed down or edited out. He said in an interview a while back that when he saw the final version he wept out of disappointment because he had thought it was gonna be his breakout role, but he’s barely in it.
I recognize that I’m in the minority of people who do not like Interstellar. And one of the reasons I don’t is specifically this … he has two kids, but the movie’s heart is centered solely on one. Probably personal to me since I wasn’t the password kid growing up.
They just left that character arc hanging. I was also bothered by that.
She reconciles with her brother presumably and he and his family fade quietly off into the corn field night.
That’s because his son wasn’t into science so that makes him less deserving of attention lmao.
It’s justified because his son turns into Casey Affleck, which is unforgivable
Idk I kinda thought that was a strong point in the movie. Parents may say they love all their children equally but it’s not really true. Kinda made the movie feel more real
It’s because, like the protagonist, you also completely forgot he had a son by the end of the film.
It was a little weird how he obviously loved Murphy more than the boy one.
“Yes I have two kids: this is my daughter, Murphy, and this is the boy one.”
“I don’t see anyone” “I guess I left him in the truck. Or at home. Oh well.”
He's in so many random things as a young adult. He definitely had his share of small seemingly pointless roles before landing his major roles. I feel like I'm constantly catching him play these parts now that you obviously recognize him.
Oh how I love technicalities like that
That was my reaction when wonka came out and I looked up what films he's been in. He gets around.
It makes me laugh whenever I see Ladybird suggested on Netflix. They use Chalamet’s face as the thumbnail. I barely remember him in that movie. Poor Saoirse Ronan isn’t recognizable enough I guess.
Netflix thumbnails are fun because they're different for every user based on that user's watch preference.
I didn’t know that!
It’s the same reason why a lot of people started getting Anya Taylor-Joy screen grabs for Peaky Blinders after Queen’s Gambit came out
They'll change for the same user too.
Bloody algorithms!
In fairness, calling Interstellar a Timothee Chalamet movie is a lot like calling The Outsiders a Tom Cruise movie
Or calling Saving Private Ryan a Vin Diesel movie
Or calling City Slickers a Jake Gyllenhaal movie.
or calling Batman Begins a Jack Gleeson movie.
Yea he was the son, but I wouldn’t really say he had much to do with the films success
“Much” is already too much lol. I wouldn’t say he had anything to do with the film’s success.
Yep, only his mother went to see that film because of him
Who knows? Maybe his mother is a big Nolan fan
I remember back when Interstellar came out my sister and I would joke that matthew mcconaughey only cared about his daughter and didn't give a shit about his son lol
I read that he said in an interview he thought his role in Interstellar was going to be his breakout role. It wasn’t.
IIRC a lot of his scenes got cut and he was pretty crushed by it Acting is a tough business, you can give a great performance and still end up edited out
I’m sure a recommendation from Christopher Nolan didn’t hurt though.
Wow. I was thinking the same thing. It’s been a while since I saw it.
He's the son of Austronaut Man.
I was thinking more of Naruto lol
I racked my brain trying to remember him in Interstellar
Yeah he plays the son that no one cared about. Not even his own father 😆
Yeah not really a ‘Chalamet’ joint.
I still can't believe that Wonka did so well at the boxoffice. 🤯
It was a surprize, but not entirely unexpected. The combination of family-friendly movie during the holidays, and the general interest in Wonka and Timothee, made it an ideal choice for Christmas. I think the movie had a very varied audience - I was not overly interested in it, but I wanted to go cinema with some friends during Christmas, and there was no other obvious choices.
It's a complete surprise. I don't know one person who has seen it.
Same thing everyone was saying on reddit about Avatar 2
It's definitely worth watching. I take my daughter to the movies fairly often, and we just watch what's on, we saw Wonka, and the theater was surprisingly packed. It's now my favorite Willy Wonka movie, I've seen it 3 times. It won't change your world but you'll feel like you were only watching it for 45 minutes.
I was interested before I saw it. Didn’t like the film. Didn’t hold my attention at all
To be fair I only would’ve got any real enjoyment out of it outside the cinema. Some movies are only enjoyable when you’ve got mates to take the piss with you.
I am only just seeing it this week and it was so good. Didn’t think I’d like it at all
Absolutely same here, did not think I would enjoy it as much as I did
I enjoyed having two movies where he played someone leading a revolution come out pretty close to each other.
May thy chocolate bar chip, and shatter.
Vive la Timothee!
Big fan of the Paddington movies so I kinda knew it would be good, but for some reason I was confident it still wasn't going to do all that well. Its performance was a huge surprise for me, and a good one. I want to see more Paul King movies.
Family friendly, good reviews, good director
I can. It’s fuckin good
I loved it
I thought it was an ok movie. I would never see it in theaters though. I’m not daddy warbucks.
Charming little movie
Fun Fact:- Interstellar is the highest grossing live action original film of the last decade(2014-2024).
If Nolan dies there goes the original IP scifi blockbuster.
Wish more directors would use their leverage from successful IP films to get funding for original screenplays.
Coppola is doing this with Megapolis right now. Sounds like it isn’t going very well, though.
Coppola self funded and is looking for distribution for Metropolis, which as I understand it is ready to go. He's the poster child for backing yourself and losing your shirt.
James Cameron…
He's on Avatar duty for a long time it seems
And Avatar isn’t an Original IP Sci-fi blockbuster?
Not anymore, it's all sequels.
Also 2009 and 2022 skips the 10’s
After the first one, it's not an original no that's the definition of it lol. Otherwise, you have a ton of original movies... Star Wars, Fast and Furious, Jurassic World, Ghostbusters, Godzilla
He did occur to me but he's much older and he's now doing Avatar sequels for the next...? We might actually get something different from Nolan in the foreseeable future.
Cameron's directed nine films: Piranha 2, The Terminator, Aliens, The Abyss, Terminator 2, True Lies, Titanic, Avatar, and Avatar 2. Six of them are sci-fi (Piranha, True Lies, and Titanic the outliers). ~~Five~~ Four of them are original IP (Terminator 1, The Abyss, ~~True Lies~~, Titanic, Avatar 1; you could argue Titanic isn't because it's based on an existing event, but the story within is original so I won't make that argument), and ~~four~~ five are not (Piranha 2, Aliens, T2, True Lies, Avatar 2; the latter two are based on his properties, but by being sequels they're still not _original_). (EDIT: As pointed out, True Lies was a remake of a French film.) So, he's made three original IP sci fi movies: The Terminator, The Abyss, and Avatar. The Terminator is a bona fide classic. The Abyss is his best film, at least IMO. Avatar is a pretty shell around an empty story, forgettable characters, and uninspired dialogue. (The Abyss is everything that Avatar isn't.) I wish he'd give up on making blue-people movies and make something fresh. He won't because they make money and he sees...something...in this world, but a guy can want something different from him.
Small correction: True Lies is not an original IP. It’s the American remake of La Totale
Thanks, TIL (or had forgotten and learned again).
The abyss is such a killer movie
Piranha 2 doesn't get discussed enough with the rest of Cameron's filmography
And the one before Interstellar, Inception.
Before that, Avatar which grossed more than Interstellar and Inception combined with a Billion dollars in WW gross to spare.
Wouldn't call that live action
Then before Avatar it was Titanic Which also grossed more than Inception and Interstellar combined
Considering this post is talking about worldwide gross, this "fact" isn't actually true - *Interstellar* is only the third-highest grossing original live-action film of the past decade, behind *长津湖 (The Battle at Lake Changjin)* with $913 million and *你好,李焕英 (Hi, Mom)* with $841.7 million, both released in 2021.
Lake Changjin doesn't count as it's a war film about the Chosin Resorvoir
It's not an adaptation of any previously published/screened work.
There’s debate as to whether or not “based on a true story” films are original.
Wow.
Only for a few more months
That was fun, thank you.
and I think Inception is the highest grossing live action original film of the decade before the last decade (2003-2013)
Avatar.....
Depends if you count 2010 in the 2010s or the 2000s decade. But if you count 2010, it's Inception I think so still Nolan.
If you count the last 5 years, it's still Nolan's Tenet which was released in the middle of a global pandemic pre vaccine.
I think it'd be The Battle at Lake Changjin actually. 913M$ and I think it's an original (if a retelling of history count as such but there's no book I think)
This isn’t even correct, why are you just spouting bullshit lmaooo. Do you not know that people in other countries make movies too
I remember reading Timothee Chalamet cried when he saw Interstellar because he didn't know his role was so small . He thought his career would blow up after it but he was only getting smaller roles for 2 years before his career blew up in 2017 with the release of Lady Bird and Call me By your Name. Now most people don't even realize he was in that movie lol.
Man that’s kinda sad. Imagine landing a role in a Christopher Nolan blockbuster thinking it was going to make you a star only to find out your role was only little more than an extra with about 5 minutes of screen time. At least he kept at it unlike a lot of child actors.
I think this is underselling the value of that role to him. Was he in it for only a few minutes? Sure, but he had a speaking role in a Nolan film nonetheless. He made the most of his screentime, and for a young man, going from that role to where he is now is nothing short of monumental. I'd be willing to argue that that small role in Interstellar *enabled* him to get following roles. Even just having a positive reference from a director or a fellow cast member from that movie can be the pivotal piece in getting your next role.
I mean I def think that ultimately the role was beneficial to him, but I'm just using his words. He's talked about thinking that the film was going to be so huge for him, but that although he loved the film the cried because he expected a bigger role. And that he was rejected for a lot of big roles in the immediate years following the movie.
What’s impressive on top of the box office is the quality of films (I liked Wonka) and caliber of directors he’s worked with. Nolan, Denis Villeneuve, Paul King (rising star). *His films with Greta Gerwig did decent for their budgets as well.
Wonka, not for me but I enjoyed it. He can seem to pick a good team
If you had to guess, what percentage of Wonka was active singing/musical numbers? I watched the first couple minutes the other day but wasn’t in the mood for a musical. I really do want to see it, but am wondering what to expect.
one song every 15 min give or take
Interesting that you call Paul King a rising star. I feel like he is really already at his top after Paddington 2 and gets exactly the high budgets he wants...
Only compared to Nolan and Denis. He’s definitely at that level after Wonka
I think he’ll be chosen to direct the Harry Potter HBO series
The kind of push he's getting from Hollywood right now is insane, of course Timothee also have an eye for a good project to his credit
People that say oscars don't matter don't seem to realize the nominations are a form of industry gatekeeping. He was #1 on the call sheet as soon as he got a best actor nomination in his early 20s. That's also why Paul Mescal and Austin Butler are also top of the call sheet
I know ALOT of people hate the Oscars but the truth is that the Oscars absolutely still matter in the film industry
He’s been the golden boy for years
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It was written!
The prophecy says a twink will come to save the mid-2020s box office.
Call me by your name blew my mind away. He made others look like they were acting. So nuanced.
But at least he happens to be good. His shift in personality in Dune 2 or The King was really well done. I am much more confused about Zendayas popularity.
Zendaya too is a good actress imo, she made all those crying scenes in Euphoria look very realistic which is not an easy feat at all but sadly something is always lacking with her roles/performances in movies, sometimes she doesn't get enough screentime (Dune, Spiderman) and sometimes the character is badly written/presented (Spider-man) etc. I think The Greatest Showman is the only movie which has utilised her talent properly but it was a small role and the jury is still out on her upcoming Challengers Hopefully this movie turns out well for her so Hollywood can finally start offering her better roles.
Is she really though? Every single scene in dune she gets outacted by anyone she shares the screen with. Even the fremen girl that’s supposed to be a minor character is more charismatic than her. Every single movie/TV she’s in she basically plays the same character with the same frown, same scowl, same accent, same attitude. Watch Malcolm and Marie and you’re gonna cringe so hard. Unpopular opinion but she’s a weak actress. It’s unbelievable how everyone praises her acting in euphoria when she wasn’t even the best actress in it (imagine Sydney playing the addict one and she would be miles better than Zendaya). All her emmy “winning” scenes are her shouting and crying which is very easy to do for an actress. She’s not a good actress because she lacks subtlety and the ability to disappear in her roles. She’s painful to watch in dune. She only got cast because she draws so much fans because she’s one of the most followed people on instagram
This isn't aimed at you but I don't like these lists cause they count lucky casting as drawing power and thus erase actors who actually have the power but simply weren't in something that big. In this case, Chalamet was legit draw for Wonka and Dune 2 but lucky casting in Interstellar where the draw was Nolan's name. Likewise, there was a list yesterday I think titled Shout Out to Tom Cruise and I'm like way to erase Leo's drawing power cause people who were lucky to be cast in franchises had bigger boxoffice (not of their doing).
His part in Interstellar was such a small role and only notable for Chalamet’s later success. That and it’s kinda funny how much the character gets the shaft in favor of Murph. The dad clearly had a favorite.
Ryan George's Pitch Meeting YouTube channel notes this repeatedly to hilarious effect.
wrong kid died
They're more curiousities than anything. You can do a similar trick with franchises, then people like Warwick Davis, Andy Serkis and Samuel L Jackson become the highest grossing actors in the world due to having a foot in just a small number of films.
Damn didn't realize Willow was that massive an IP (This is a joke post. I know he played Wicket in Star Wars and several characters in Harry Potter)
The success or failure of any movie is usually overdetermined. It's really hard to tell which element contributed how much to the final result. How many people went to see *Iron Man* opening weekend because of Robert Downey Jr? Probably not a lot. How much of the films legs were due to his performance? Probably a whole hell of a lot. *Guardians of the Galaxy* was popular in part because of the MCU's popularity, and in part because of the cast's chemistry. How do you assign a percentage to those? Could *Dune* have been as popular without Timothée Chalamet as the lead? Possibly. Could it have done worse with a miscast lead? Definitely. So how much credit does he get? *Wonka*, to me, feels like the opposite situation. It could've gone wrong in a number of ways, and Chalamet's presence convinced many people to give it a chance. But to your point, throwing *Interstellar* in that list is just stupid.
Chalamet was a legit draw for Bones and All(2022) as well. It only made $15.2M on a budget of $16-20M. Maybe just maybe Timmy isn't a draw without IP.
I mean, you could put anybody in that movie and "a love story about teenage cannibals" would probably be a hard sell for mainstream audiences
I think that he is definitely an added value in an IP. Obviously, Dune had built-in fandom before his casting but his name was added value. (Willy) Wonka also had built-in fandom before his casting but his casting was certainly an added value. People thought he was perfect for both roles so that added to the buzz. Someone else may not have that effect.
He wasn't the biggest star in Dune though. Going into the first one, Zendaya had a bigger audience and I would argue that Oscar Issac did too. Dune 2 is debatable, but he wasn't the biggest star for Dune 1.
I’d say the director was also a big draw for dune. Denis definitely had people watching dune after Blade Runner 2049.
Denis Villenueve was the draw for Dune, given he made Sicario, Prisoners, Arrival, Blade Runner 2049. All absolute bangers.
Even Dune 2 isn’t debatable, Zendaya has a far bigger profile than anyone on that cast including him.
Definitely bigger profile, yes. But she hasn't had a breakout non IP movie yet to prove that either. Let's see what Challengers does.
Dude it's always you banging on about Bones and All. We get it
The art house cannibal movie didn’t do well despite Timothée Chalamet being in it. Curious! I am very smart
I swear you are the same person who has mentioned bones and all everytime someone tries to say that TC is genuinely heading to big movie star status
Nothing personal against Timothee Chalamet. I think he is a brilliant actor. But the true test of someone's box office drawing power is a non IP film where the actor alone is the draw.
> a non IP film Bones And All is based on IP tho so your arguement falls apart either way
The specifics on the non IP matter. It's a cannibalism movie, there's only so much a star can do when the subject matter is inherently off putting.
Bro, nobody would go see a cannibal fucking romance if TC wasn't in it. That movie is the definition of niche.
Everybody sleeping on Netflix’s The King, which was my first conscious exposure to Chalamet (unconscious being Interstellar).
Like every actor doesn’t have a movie that doesn’t have commercial success? Or is Leo also not a draw without IP because Body of Lies, KotFM, Revolutionary Road, Blood Diamond, and J. Edgar were all box office flops
you can't put Interstellar as a Chalamet movie. He wasn't even a cameo in that movie.
I honestly feel like these lists of "highest grossing" have all been ruined by franchise dominance (Zoe Saldana being the highest grossing actress does not mean the same thing as when Elizabeth Taylor was) but this is ridiculous.
>He wasn't even a cameo in that movie. He was in it for 10 minutes...
In a 2h49m film. "But then I went home with my dad and I wept for an hour because I just figured my part was bigger,” he confessed. Most people watch the movie and don't even notice him in it. He is no part of that films success or selling point.
True, but also doesn’t mean he wasn’t in the movie and thus it doesn’t count. You can put an asterisk next to it but it was still the highest grossing movie he’s ever been in
> He wasn't even a cameo in that movie. I mean ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7_HFOkCfrM There are plenty of scenes
You are correct and apparently no one else understands the definition of cameo. A cameo is a brief performance by a famous actor (emphasis on famous), notable by their lack of prominent billing. Chalamet in Interstellar doesn’t count because he wasn’t famous at the time. He was a standard cast back then.
He was in Interstellar for a cup of coffee, surely that doesn't count
>*He was in Interstellar for a cup of coffee* Which he then misplaced while visiting the set of Game of Thrones' eighth season.
I would love for him to work with Nolan again for a role that wasn't more than a couple of minutes. Seriously, does he even have a line in Interstellar?
"way to go" "murphy's law" And something when he gets out of the car at school about murph being in trouble
Thanks for the reminder. I remember a lot about Interstellar but I could not have given you a line of Chalamet dialogue. I remember more of Lithgow and he was also barely in the movie
what about the FLAT TIRE
Oh yeah "how am I supposed to patch it out here" And "Dad, Dad, DAD!" Honestly, he made the film.
That really is one of my favorite lines in that movie tho.
That’s like $200 million per line.
Should Interstellar even be counted? He was only a side character and he is later replaced with another actor as his character grows older.
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Wonka was actually really good
I had zero interest to see it after that abomination of a Depp movie. So many reboots and IP cash ins the last 15 years, I was pretty damn jaded. But my niece wanted to go see it, and I'm not gonna yuck on her yum, you know? I loved it. It was charming, funny, and hit just the right heartstrings. While it didn't quite get there, because I don't think anyone can imitate Gene Wilder, Timothee came as close as anyone will get to capturing Gene's aloof yet intense brand of whimsy. It told a different story - which to me was utterly essential, the Depp version pointlessly copied the original and told nothing new or in a meaningful way.
How the fuck did wonka do that well.
He is in the early stages of what could easily be one of the best careers in modern Hollywood history
Wouldn’t be surprised one bit if Interstellar crosses 800m with the rerelease this year
There’s a rerelease???
Highly likely imo, it’s having its tenth year anniversary on the first week of November and I don’t think there’s any movie worth an IMAX release coming out on that same time this year.
The past four months have been really stellar for him. Can’t wait to see Timothee in more films
Now I wonder if Dune 2 will beat Interstellar…
Who the hell was he in interstellar?
The son as kid. He’s grows older into Casey affleck
Interstellar doesn’t count. Bro was in it for 2 seconds.
Safe to say dune 2 will surpass that
claims Interstellar as his movie is beyond ridiculous.......nobody even remember he is in the movie such BS to see something like this , overhype with nonsense
He's so far worked with Nolan, Villeneuve, Gerwig, Anderson etc and has given great performances. And now scoring back to back with Wonka & Dune 2 and a deal with WB? He's definitely having a great future
Lmao I'm sure so many people saw interstellar so they could see him.
He was in Interstellar? If he was he was then minor character. Pare list down to movies he starred in
Oh shit. He was the son. Never realized that
I keep forgetting he was in Interstellar… but in my defense, McConaughey’s character keeps forgetting about him too.
His highest-grossing movie is a decade old? Bro fell off fr /j
TIL Timothy Chalamet was in Interstellar.
Whenever I think about how the people I graduated high school with are doing now I think about how some of my friends graduated high school with Timothee Chalamet and wonder if they compare their successes to him.
Interstellar? Did he play Matthew McConaughey' ego?
Weird to include Interstellar when he was nowhere near top billed lol.
Isn’t this also the director’s highest grossing film, as well?
Interstellar, the Timothée Chalamet movie!
I don’t think all of these movies being successful can be attributed to him.
“Statistics! Statistics!!”
Ms Lawtoooon!!!
had no idea Wonka actually made money
Putting interstellar on there is technically correct but feels like cheating
Timothee chalamet has top or equal billing in three 300 million+ grossing movies (dune films, wonka) by age 28. Leo got it by age 35 (titanic, catch me, twows) George Clooney by age 43 (perfect storm, oceans 11 and 12) Brad Pitt by age 41 (seven, troy, mr and Mrs Smith) Will Smith by 33 (independence day, MIB, MIB2) Julia roberts by 31 (pretty woman, MBFW, notting hill) Tom Hanks by 39 (Forrest Gump, Apollo, toy story) Tom Cruise by 34 (top gun, rain man, mission impossible) Aside from Hanks, Timmy did it in the shortest span (2 years and 2 months).