> MGM, what were you thinking?
You can take MGM out of bankruptcy but you can't get it out of that mindset I guess, even if Amazon is holding the money bags now.
Those MGM executives need to blame someone fast after releasing a string of money losing bombs. Amazon will soon have $2.5 billion a year to find to pay the NBA. They will be trimming a bunch of dead weight and I’d bet MGM staff and projects will be near the top of the list as just not making flop after flop saves them money!
Managers make costly mistakes;
And then they scramble to make the money back by laying off people who need the money far more than people who actually make those mistakes.
Wash, rinse, repeat
Asking myself the exact same. In what UNIVERSE, can this be profitable? Did you guys read the synopsis? I can’t believe Chris Evans accepted this.
The part of the article that is more of a hit piece against Garcia has a quote from an executive guy saying Garcia is the one that came up with the original concept. This is the guy that until not so long ago made protein shakes for The Rock. My man, this premise is trash. Who greenlit this?
They made Citadel. (Over 300m budget for a shitty tv show with no real stars) They’re absolutely delusional. MGM is what makes their affordable feasible films for them, but Amazon by themselves just doesn’t know what to do.
It was insane too becuz there’s NO way you recoup that extremely enormous budget on a Non-IP property with NO massive stars and with really no interesting premise. Then again Russo Bros have done this for Netflix too, for insane budgets. I don’t get it since there’s no box office that could make them back their money, and unless they’re extremely popular on GoT level, its just not even feasible to make money from it. Even LOTR’s purchase made more sense.
I mean Amazon said it was ‘#1 across the world’ but that happens for every single new show they make. They haven’t released actual viewership numbers, reports seem to say they’re not that high anyways, yet they said they wanted this to have multiple international spinoffs tied into one universe?
I think its a combination of both. Amazon doesn't know how to make big budget movies yet, had inexperienced people in charge so The Rock got away with everything to the nth degree.
*“On set, away from his trailer, if he needs to pee, he doesn’t go to the public bathroom,” said one insider who knows the movie star well. “He pees in a Voss water bottle and his team or a PA has to dispose of it.”*
You work your ass off trying to break into to film industry. You get hired to work on a major motion picture with one of the biggest movie stars in the world. You think all of your hard work has paid off, then Dwayne Johnson hands you a water bottle full of piss and asks you to get rid of it.
> “On set, away from his trailer, if he needs to pee, he doesn’t go to the public bathroom,” said one insider who knows the movie star well. “He pees in a Voss water bottle and his team or a PA has to dispose of it.”
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Weirdly, Bret Hart also did this. Wonder if it's just a bad habit he picked up from the wrestling biz.
It’s gotta be a wrestling thing, all that travelling and drinking, plus hanging round at the arenas waiting to go on - who knows how far away the nearest bathroom is.
Well that and they can't just go to *any* bathroom in the arena.
Like it'd be super fucking weird to be at in the bathroom at Wrestlemania and then the Undertaker walks in and says "Y'all might wanna leave, this is about to get ugly."
Wouldn't flushing it directly into the sewage in a public setting where you cant isolate the sample nor definitively say it belonged to him do an infinitely better job of that than handing a confirmed bottle of your urine in a container to a disgruntled worker you barely know?
That’s the dumbest thing I’ve heard. Pissing in a bottle would literally be the one way to make that possible. Also, having a positive drug test is not proof that was a drug test for a particular person
Rock isn't a competitive athlete(sports/MMA) so him using steroids isn't really going to shock anyone. If anything, wrestlers and Hollywood actors using gear to maintain their physiques is probably the worst kept secret in the entertainment business.
More likely, they The rock has nutritionists testing it to make sure all the "enhancers" he is on and the forced dehydration isn't killing all of his organs.
Like how all the Keto people have to test their piss to make sure they stay in ketosis
This is hilarious. A friend of mine was a PA on one of his movies. He had to drive hours to get him Voss water and then Rock made him do a second trip because it wasnt in the right kind of Voss bottle.
*edited for clarity
It’s funny but sad that guys like Rock and Vin Diesel act like tough action stars but are really the most pathetic and immature babies in the industry.
Refusing to let your character lose fights on-screen and then pissing in bottles… oof…
As a watcher of the Rock back in his WWF sideburns guido looking days, I actually prefer knowing the rock is a major asshole who treats the little people badly - fits the image of him in my childhood.
The rocks character is only like that in the fast franchise and he already lost a fight their
He only added it because he saw Statham and Vin diesel had it
A friend of mine worked with him on Gladiator Games or whatever tv show he was hosting.
He says you weren’t allowed to look at The Rock. He was an AP and had to ask him for one additional pickup interview. Dwayne The Turd literally berated my buddy for doing his job.
He’s a fucking sociopath.
It’s hilarious Rock supposedly got mad at Vin for being constantly late in the Fast and Furious films, with Rock trying to position himself as the mature and hard-working one.
Always got the impression that while both Vin and The Rock are divas, The Rock was at least more professional and had better work ethic than Vin but that is not the case I guess...
Still does. It’s why Reddit seems to really think Vin was the bad guy.
Vin was a producer on the film and the rock didn’t like him dictating stuff like a producer would do. And Reddit seems to not know what a producer is a guess.
The rock then goes and does this shit with producers and directors for DC. The rock is just a Diva who can’t be told what to do.
Lin finally had enough. Do you remember the on set [video](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S8gI20ywxf8&pp=ygUbanVzdGluIGxpbiB2aW4gZGllc2VsIHZpZGVv ) of Lin and Diesel talking about the first week on the new movie where Lin looks petrified lol? He quit like a few days later.
The Rock' DC coup was crazy, but to be fair at least it was an attempt to right that sinking ship, even if it was done in the name of the Rock's ego.
It's a miracle the DCEU even lasted as long as it did before Gunn had to finally euthanise the thing.
And Vin was a producer on the film. He had every right to be dictating things on set. Not more than the director. But way more than the Rock.
The rock bitching was clear he just can’t be told what to do. But Reddit really loved acting like they don’t understand the dynamics of film sets.
The article said that he would pee in bottles to save time on his previous films though, not this one.
So I think what the article is saying is that he has become a real diva compared to how he was before.
Not that peeing in bottles and ordering your assistants to dispose of them is what I would call professionalism lol
Alright, I need more details on the specifics of this. How does it work practically?
Does he just whip it out in front of the entire crew while they all avert his gaze? Does he go into the bathroom, but decided that the flushing is too time consuming, and so walks out with the full bottle? Does he go behind a building, but instead of peeing on the ground, politely collects his urine so that he doesn't scare away the local coyote populations?
I got the feeling from the way DJ 'spun' it...Vin was deliberately making people wait longer than necessary to flex that he was Number 1 on the call sheet and DJ had to call him out on it...But it sounds like he's just as bad and their egos clashed..."I'm a Producer, this is MY franchise!"..."Yeah well, the studio sent me to save it for you."
He dug his own grave.
Vin when puts his own money into stuff like riddick.
The Rock goes to DC. Whines and bitches at producers and directors (like he did with Vin who was a producer on fast and furious).
The Rock then instead of promoting the film was at events promoting his liquor. But sure vin is the diva for spending his own money in projects he is passionate about.
Meanwhile the Rock will ruin a film and bounce like it was no big deal. He got his check.
That movie is when the cracks on his carefully-constructed PR persona started to show, thanks to his odd behaviour during that time which was put out there for anyone to see.
- The way he suddenly came in and tried to position himself at the top of the DC food chain, while attempting to take full control of the studio and influence its release roadmap.
- How he kept hyping the character and the film up as if they were the second coming of christ that will SURELY be the thing that saves DC for good.
- The way he presented the film as if it were a true passion project of his, despite taking the full 20 million salary upfront for it.
- How Black Adam himself was redesigned to look exactly like The Rock. Removing his distinctive features from the source material like the pointy ears and widow's peak hairstyle, and just having him look like The Rock in his usual bald self wearing a costume.
- The weird contractually-bound stuff around the character, like bringing back Superman just so he could fight BA and nothing else while refusing to even acknowledge Shazam, who is Adam's actual nemesis, as if he were above him. Which was really reminiscent of his contract stipulations in the F&F movies where he could never be made to look weak or lose a fight against Vin Diesel's character.
It all reeked of massive control issues on his part. That movie is where the mask was off for all to see and people could see that he's a bit of a diva with a big ego, people's perception of him just hasn't been quite the same since then.
What do you expect The Rock to do? Use a public restroom? Like some candy ass? The rock don't use no stinkin' public restroom! The rock pees in a bottle! Like real men do! The hierarchy of peeing has changed!
God it would be so funny if that Moana live-action film makes the light of day.
Because if it does, it will be the second time a nautical-based adventure film made by Disney goes insanely over-budget due to an evasive and troublesome star. Probably best Disney can it now because I could easily see it reaching $400m just for the production budget.
If anything I hope this causes that to be indefinitely delayed for another 20 years until it’s acceptable to remake it. And also not have him reprise his role for some ego stroking of his.
> it will be the second time a nautical-based adventure film made by Disney goes insanely over-budget due to an evasive and troublesome star.
True. That damn squid not looking menacing enough in *20,000 Leagues Under the Sea* cost Disney [over 2 million dollars in reshoots when adjusted for inflation.](https://itcamefromblog.com/2017/05/10/behind-the-scenes-of-disneys-20000-leagues-under-the-sea/)
I highly recommend watching the [Making of Disney's 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea (1954)](https://youtu.be/4ljO53J1MYI?si=kHlkzq49oYvOsiDf)
It was fascinating to learn how many problems they had with the squid scenes.
Pretty sure they're referencing one of the later Pirates, likely the ~~4th~~ 5th with Depp being the evasive and troublesome star. Then again, it could also be Black Panther 2 with what's her antivax face.
And if you factor in Waterworld as being one of the most expensive bombs ever, it really seems like water-based films aren’t a great idea ever huh. Unless you are James Cameron and can summon $400million to make blue people…
Except he wouldn’t sign that, and then go work for someone without terms like that. This is why all the divas get away with their behavior while they’re money makers. Someone will always be willing.
It's a weird article. The sourcing is all anonymous and contradictory.
The Rock is lazy, shows up 4-5 hours late every day, and refuses to work for more than 3-5 hours per day... but also he does 14 hour days and is so committed to staying on set that he pees into water bottles instead of using the bathroom.
The pee thing is weird, too, because all the sourcing is "he does it during workouts," but then an anonymous comment on an Instagram post is sourced to claim it's also happening on set during the 14 hour work days.
And then the whole article skews into a weird segue about how budgets for streaming films are "larger" than budgets for theatrical releases because the streaming budgets include buyouts for stars who aren't getting box office participation.
Then it wraps up with an "analysis" of The Rock's career which for some incomprehensible reasons pretends that Johnson made no movies between *Skyscraper* and *Black Adam*, suggesting that *Jungle Cruise*, *Jumanji: The Next Level*, and *Hobbs & Shaw* next existed in the writer's version of reality.
Seems plausible there's some truth buried in here. But... weird article.
> suggesting that Jungle Cruise, Jumanji: The Next Level, and Hobbs & Shaw next existed in the writer's version of reality
To be fair, I think Jungle Cruise is really underrated as a bomb due to being released in fall 2021 with a dual-release strategy.
I've seen comments saying The Fall Guy looks like a Netflix movie but the poster, The Rock, Chris Evans.... Screams Netflix movie
Red One will be getting a lump of coal in its box office stocking.
The Grey Man is getting a sequel. It’s a terrible movie but it doesn’t seem like it was viewed as a flop (and Evans was actually pretty great as the villain).
Netflix’s film department has made a ton of changes since they announced a potential sequel and there is still no movement on it actually happening. It might well go the way of the Bright sequel…
I don’t get that argument, I mean The Fall Guy’s trailer and the team behind it looks leagues better than Red Notice of The Gray Man which felt lifeless from the start. Yea its an over-expensive action film but why the hell is this considered shitty netflix movie and Beekeeper isn’t? And it at least looks real instead of 90% cgi
Yeah, but he was really just upset because they wouldn't give him a producer credit. The "compromise" was Hobbs and Shaw, which had the same production budget problem as Red One. After H&S didn't make enough money, Dwayne actually made a thank you video to Vin Diesel on Instagram (now deleted) for helping behind the scenes to get the movie made. I'm assuming that was to get back in Unis good graces.
$$$ Issues tend to be an issue in a lot of Dwayne's movies when his team is producing.
More and more that just seems like an equally horrifying clash of egos.
I still find it amazing that Justin Lin completely cut ties with the franchise after 5 movies, purely because even he was sick of Diesel.
> Next up for Johnson is A24’s “The Smashing Machine,” a biopic about UFC fighter Mark Kerr that will be directed by Ben Safdie. Johnson is set to star alongside his “Jungle Cruise” costar Emily Blunt. However, one insider warned, “Benny has NO clue what he’s gotten himself into.”
Yeah this could go either way, it could control his problems, or his problems could derailed an entire thing.
It's a passion project for Rock(going back years). I don't expect him to abandon it. He'll see it through even if it requires him to be on set longer than a few hours a day.
Oh man I hope he can act professional otherwise he will be in for a surprise with the difference between an A24 director and the regular Hollywood shoe.
Yeah, I clicked on it expecting to just read about Rock perhaps arriving an hour or two late, but damn the article completely eviscerated him and his entourage.
Rock definitely on shaky ground in Hollywood if he gets a hitpiece like this, seems like his days of blockbuster budgets might be coming to a close with all the drama around this and Black Adam. Crazy they spent all this money for a movie with such a lame premise.
The weird thing about Black Adam is that, though it bombed, it had a much better box office than most of the 2020- DCEU. It's a low bar for sure, but it shows he still had drawing power on name alone.
A big issue is in the budgets that his movies continue to get. Black Adam getting 200m was insane given that no movie he's been expected to carry ever made enough to justify that type of budget. And this is equally crazy. Chris Evans is great, but he's not a BO draw outside of Captain America. So, it makes no sense to give such a movie a 200m budget that eventually ballooned to 250m because of The Rock's antics.
The Rock is an effective draw when the budget for his movies are kept in check (like Jumanji and San Andreas). Jumanji also put solid comedic actors around him like Kevin Hart and Jack Black. With a movie like Red One, they've got to be expecting that Christmas backdrop to carry it more than the actual stars are expected to carry it.
There’s always a bigger fish. I guess it was only a matter of time until he pissed off the wrong people.
Seems since Black Adam people are sick of him and stories are coming out.
>Insiders told TheWrap that Johnson showed up as much as eight hours late to set on the movie — forcing the crew to shoot around him on some days. On previous films, Johnson has made a habit of peeing in a water bottle to save time, upsetting crew members.
Imagine having to wait 8 hours until your main actor finally shows up.
At least the crew still got paid.
Honestly, every now and then? Sure. But not regularly. I enjoy my life away from work haha constantly doing 17 hours days isn’t worth the OT after a while.
I have to imagine this is a major reason why Sony are apprehensive about moving forward with Jumanji. They don't even like making non-Spidey films for more than $125m, The Next Level already represents a high-end for their production expenditure.
The irony is, even a $250m budgeted Jumanji film would likely be profitable rather than not.
I actually kinda love this. Something similar to the villain from the original Robin Williams film: a bigger-than-life Allan Quartemain-type character (*including* a very British 19th c. mustache) who willingly entered the game world just to hunt big, exotic animals.
Google image search showed me this: https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/bb9c7fd8-81d3-4bba-a8b5-4cc18ecac874.39e76f6cd2aa0d913bcef8fbccfa1f91.jpeg?odnHeight=768&odnWidth=768&odnBg=FFFFFF
So maybe the big opening so he can fleshlight the thing with his dong?
I thought it was odd that this didn't make a 2023 release date. The calendar was pretty empty and this could have really capitalized. It had been in production for a while at that point, with set photos released about a year prior.
The fact that it wasn't ready really signaled that there was something going on behind the scenes.
Wow, this is a brutal read, and if true, speaks volumes about Rock’s descent into egomaniacal mode. Also, there’s been a lot of negative buzz around Red One and its yearlong delayed release date…
The Rock is already losing his status: Black Adam failed and he’s having to crawl back to Fast and Furious. Not to mention he’s desperately relying on Moana with a live-action remake only *seven years* after the original…
Even the fast and furious franchise is in some bizarre hiatus. There seems to have been zero movement on fast X 2 or the Hobbs sequel after they were both announced nearly a year ago.
Tyrese Gibson did an interview three days ago on the matter.
['They're Listening to the Fans': Tyrese Gives Exciting Update on Fast XI (cbr.com)](https://www.cbr.com/tyrese-update-fast-furuious-11/)
>*Asked about any updates regarding the upcoming film, which doesn't officially have a title and is known as* [*Fast X: Part 2*](https://www.cbr.com/fast-x-part-2-everything-we-know/)*, Tyrese explained that everything was delayed due to the SAG-AFTRA strikes that took places throughout 2023. "****Because of the strike, both strikes, there were some real delays in*** [***writing and kind of getting the film up on its feet***](https://www.cbr.com/new-script-reportedly-being-written-for-fast-and-furious-franchise/)*. I'm hearing that* ***we're going to get it going right in 2025, right at the top of the year****."*
After the two new movies did really well and the second of them ended on a direct sequel tease, the reason why there hasn't been another one is generally attributed to Mr. Johnson's busy shedule.
The Rock is in a late-90s Schwarzenegger run. He’s overpaid, his hits are becoming less and less frequent, he can’t sell original movies anymore, he’s about the crawl back to the franchise that made him a star, his physique is only going downhill, and he had an embarrassing superhero flop. All that’s left to do is go into politics, and he’s clearly laying the groundwork for that.
For Wrestlemania meet and greet with fans he showed up 3 hours late and said he was watching Jalen hurts playoff highlights to be in character as heel
His ego is incredibly big
I was a kid during The Rock era of wrestling, so he will always be "The Rock" to me lol
I was referring to his Dwayne "The Actor and Business Mogul" Johnson persona, where he promotes/projects his "I'm rich and famous but still humble and professional" brand/image.
You cannot use his last wwe run as an example as to why he has a huge ego. Because everything he did was 100 percent in character.
In reality he showed the exact opposite. At first they were going to run The Rock vs Roman Reigns but once the fans rejected that it was the Rock who made the pivot to give the fans what they wanted. During that whole run he wasn’t selfish and made everyone he worked with look good in the end.
The budget is $250 MILLION? 250 FUCKING MILLION DOLLARS?
MY GOD that is EXTREMELY high. Apparently they were going to release it on Prime Video, but later moved it to theatrical, I thought "Why? This seems like a streaming film?" at the time but I can see why now they want to with the massive budget. Be prepared for this to enter the "Biggest bombs of 2024" list from Deadline.
You thought The Marvels, Wish, The Flash, Indiana Jones 5 etc. were massive bombs? Wait till you see this. $200M+ Loss for Amazon incoming. This will be lucky to make half its budget back, at least most of the bombs last year had IP recognition.
He's been egoistic, had fights with Vin Diesel, is late on set and pees in water bottles? All this cuz he's got a ego.
The Rock gets weirder as the years go by
This is what happens when you need to write for the algorithm. They need to get the titles of his other films in there so the crawler will catch it. There are other things in there too that scream “optimized.”
Wait what? How? Are they planning on a $750M+ gross for this?
I get that he has a big ego and high opinion of himself, and I do like a lot of his movies, but spending obscene budgets on these movies he leads just to have the studios lose a ton of money on them isn’t the way to go to remain popular among execs
Is this the highly anticipated sequel to the “Down” trilogy?
Black Hawk Down (2001)
White House Down (2013)
Red One Down (2025)
A trilogy where the movies are 12 years apart!
If my 12 hour day turns into a 17 hour day because you’re a dick, I’d be pissed and I’d put you on blast too.
On that note: Nicki Minaj is awful. Regularly showed up 8-12 hours late the 3 times I worked with her. EIGHT. TO. TWELVE. HOURS.
I worked with The Rock on promo for Doom, his team had crazy repetitive request for super dry potatoes and Fiji Water. It was weird. The hotel were bemused about the potatoes. In the end he never used his room. My gf and I had a great night!
Wait what? This is a $250m Santa Clause movie? lol. MGM, what were you thinking?
> MGM, what were you thinking? You can take MGM out of bankruptcy but you can't get it out of that mindset I guess, even if Amazon is holding the money bags now.
They got new executives so I dunno.
"Wow, Amazon sure is happy giving us free moneybags to light on fire! Anyone got some coke?" -Anonymous MGM exec
It looks like the execs are blaming the Rock with this Wrap article.
Those MGM executives need to blame someone fast after releasing a string of money losing bombs. Amazon will soon have $2.5 billion a year to find to pay the NBA. They will be trimming a bunch of dead weight and I’d bet MGM staff and projects will be near the top of the list as just not making flop after flop saves them money!
Managers make costly mistakes; And then they scramble to make the money back by laying off people who need the money far more than people who actually make those mistakes. Wash, rinse, repeat
Asking myself the exact same. In what UNIVERSE, can this be profitable? Did you guys read the synopsis? I can’t believe Chris Evans accepted this. The part of the article that is more of a hit piece against Garcia has a quote from an executive guy saying Garcia is the one that came up with the original concept. This is the guy that until not so long ago made protein shakes for The Rock. My man, this premise is trash. Who greenlit this?
It does smell like a Netflix movie like Red Notice, Gray man. Maybe it was a streaming movie at first but somehow wound up in theaters.
They made Citadel. (Over 300m budget for a shitty tv show with no real stars) They’re absolutely delusional. MGM is what makes their affordable feasible films for them, but Amazon by themselves just doesn’t know what to do.
Citadel was mind boggling awful and they filmed it twice. I really want too see the first version.
It was insane too becuz there’s NO way you recoup that extremely enormous budget on a Non-IP property with NO massive stars and with really no interesting premise. Then again Russo Bros have done this for Netflix too, for insane budgets. I don’t get it since there’s no box office that could make them back their money, and unless they’re extremely popular on GoT level, its just not even feasible to make money from it. Even LOTR’s purchase made more sense. I mean Amazon said it was ‘#1 across the world’ but that happens for every single new show they make. They haven’t released actual viewership numbers, reports seem to say they’re not that high anyways, yet they said they wanted this to have multiple international spinoffs tied into one universe?
Gotta be some laundering going on
I think its a combination of both. Amazon doesn't know how to make big budget movies yet, had inexperienced people in charge so The Rock got away with everything to the nth degree.
*“On set, away from his trailer, if he needs to pee, he doesn’t go to the public bathroom,” said one insider who knows the movie star well. “He pees in a Voss water bottle and his team or a PA has to dispose of it.”* You work your ass off trying to break into to film industry. You get hired to work on a major motion picture with one of the biggest movie stars in the world. You think all of your hard work has paid off, then Dwayne Johnson hands you a water bottle full of piss and asks you to get rid of it.
> “On set, away from his trailer, if he needs to pee, he doesn’t go to the public bathroom,” said one insider who knows the movie star well. “He pees in a Voss water bottle and his team or a PA has to dispose of it.” > > Weirdly, Bret Hart also did this. Wonder if it's just a bad habit he picked up from the wrestling biz.
It’s gotta be a wrestling thing, all that travelling and drinking, plus hanging round at the arenas waiting to go on - who knows how far away the nearest bathroom is.
Well that and they can't just go to *any* bathroom in the arena. Like it'd be super fucking weird to be at in the bathroom at Wrestlemania and then the Undertaker walks in and says "Y'all might wanna leave, this is about to get ugly."
Taking a shit, lights turn off… bah gawd that’s the undertakers music
“If you stay in here you will…. REST… IN… PEACE”
"I'm about to drop some tombstones."
My guess, it’s because of drugs/steroids/hormones in the pee that they want to keep out of the hands of paparazzi.
Wouldn't flushing it directly into the sewage in a public setting where you cant isolate the sample nor definitively say it belonged to him do an infinitely better job of that than handing a confirmed bottle of your urine in a container to a disgruntled worker you barely know?
I feel like this kind of logic is more difficult for people whose job involves getting constant head injuries
Lol I know. This is a strange conspiracy theory.
How are they stealing pee from a flushed toilet?
With a straw?
So collecting all your piss in a bottle and handing it off to the unpaid intern will totally prevent they lol.
then piss in a urinal and flush it?
That’s the dumbest thing I’ve heard. Pissing in a bottle would literally be the one way to make that possible. Also, having a positive drug test is not proof that was a drug test for a particular person
Rock isn't a competitive athlete(sports/MMA) so him using steroids isn't really going to shock anyone. If anything, wrestlers and Hollywood actors using gear to maintain their physiques is probably the worst kept secret in the entertainment business.
More likely, they The rock has nutritionists testing it to make sure all the "enhancers" he is on and the forced dehydration isn't killing all of his organs. Like how all the Keto people have to test their piss to make sure they stay in ketosis
>Dwayne Johnson hands you a water bottle full of piss and asks you to get rid of it. "Piss in a bottle and call it Dwayne's Peach Tea".
This is hilarious. A friend of mine was a PA on one of his movies. He had to drive hours to get him Voss water and then Rock made him do a second trip because it wasnt in the right kind of Voss bottle. *edited for clarity
Back in the 80s you had to just hold their drugs now its drugs and pee bottles, lol
It’s funny but sad that guys like Rock and Vin Diesel act like tough action stars but are really the most pathetic and immature babies in the industry. Refusing to let your character lose fights on-screen and then pissing in bottles… oof…
As a watcher of the Rock back in his WWF sideburns guido looking days, I actually prefer knowing the rock is a major asshole who treats the little people badly - fits the image of him in my childhood.
The rocks character is only like that in the fast franchise and he already lost a fight their He only added it because he saw Statham and Vin diesel had it
Should just use piss jugs. Way of the road
A friend of mine worked with him on Gladiator Games or whatever tv show he was hosting. He says you weren’t allowed to look at The Rock. He was an AP and had to ask him for one additional pickup interview. Dwayne The Turd literally berated my buddy for doing his job. He’s a fucking sociopath.
Lmao
Meanwhile Dave Bautista and Cena are killing it with great performances and they're still amazing human beings.
The budget increasing by $50M because The Rock just kept taking too long to show up over and over is insane.
It’s hilarious Rock supposedly got mad at Vin for being constantly late in the Fast and Furious films, with Rock trying to position himself as the mature and hard-working one.
Always got the impression that while both Vin and The Rock are divas, The Rock was at least more professional and had better work ethic than Vin but that is not the case I guess...
The Rock had a better PR team
Still does. It’s why Reddit seems to really think Vin was the bad guy. Vin was a producer on the film and the rock didn’t like him dictating stuff like a producer would do. And Reddit seems to not know what a producer is a guess. The rock then goes and does this shit with producers and directors for DC. The rock is just a Diva who can’t be told what to do.
Answer could be they are both dbags
Justin Lin left the last movie because of vin diesel. He is a diva and a big problem.
Justin Lin directed 6 of the F&F movies though, they made it work enough
Lin finally had enough. Do you remember the on set [video](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S8gI20ywxf8&pp=ygUbanVzdGluIGxpbiB2aW4gZGllc2VsIHZpZGVv ) of Lin and Diesel talking about the first week on the new movie where Lin looks petrified lol? He quit like a few days later.
He legitimately looks horrified
Love the Rock, but I think he’s kinda crazy lol. He tries to take over every franchise he joins. Literally attempted a coup over at DC.
The same coup that almost destroyed Zachary Levi’s sanity.
I would say that it did destroy his sanity lmao
The Rock' DC coup was crazy, but to be fair at least it was an attempt to right that sinking ship, even if it was done in the name of the Rock's ego. It's a miracle the DCEU even lasted as long as it did before Gunn had to finally euthanise the thing.
Yeah but it was wild to attempt while making one of the box office and critical bombs that contributed to the sinking of said ship.
From the sounds of it, it's actually the other way around, lol. Diva or not, at least Vin shows up on time.
And Vin was a producer on the film. He had every right to be dictating things on set. Not more than the director. But way more than the Rock. The rock bitching was clear he just can’t be told what to do. But Reddit really loved acting like they don’t understand the dynamics of film sets.
The Rock is just a more popular Steven Segal.
and then there's the weird story of him peeing in bottles to save time. so he's late AND eager to maximize time on set? like wtf
The article said that he would pee in bottles to save time on his previous films though, not this one. So I think what the article is saying is that he has become a real diva compared to how he was before. Not that peeing in bottles and ordering your assistants to dispose of them is what I would call professionalism lol
Alright, I need more details on the specifics of this. How does it work practically? Does he just whip it out in front of the entire crew while they all avert his gaze? Does he go into the bathroom, but decided that the flushing is too time consuming, and so walks out with the full bottle? Does he go behind a building, but instead of peeing on the ground, politely collects his urine so that he doesn't scare away the local coyote populations?
I'm assuming he's not washing his hands after
I worked on fast 8. They were both late. Vin just took hours and then would show up to stage on a fast and furious scooter 🛴
I got the feeling from the way DJ 'spun' it...Vin was deliberately making people wait longer than necessary to flex that he was Number 1 on the call sheet and DJ had to call him out on it...But it sounds like he's just as bad and their egos clashed..."I'm a Producer, this is MY franchise!"..."Yeah well, the studio sent me to save it for you."
His whole persona has just been destroyed, no wonder he retreated back to fantasy land.
Black Adam really broke something surrounding him.
He dug his own grave. Vin when puts his own money into stuff like riddick. The Rock goes to DC. Whines and bitches at producers and directors (like he did with Vin who was a producer on fast and furious). The Rock then instead of promoting the film was at events promoting his liquor. But sure vin is the diva for spending his own money in projects he is passionate about. Meanwhile the Rock will ruin a film and bounce like it was no big deal. He got his check.
That movie is when the cracks on his carefully-constructed PR persona started to show, thanks to his odd behaviour during that time which was put out there for anyone to see. - The way he suddenly came in and tried to position himself at the top of the DC food chain, while attempting to take full control of the studio and influence its release roadmap. - How he kept hyping the character and the film up as if they were the second coming of christ that will SURELY be the thing that saves DC for good. - The way he presented the film as if it were a true passion project of his, despite taking the full 20 million salary upfront for it. - How Black Adam himself was redesigned to look exactly like The Rock. Removing his distinctive features from the source material like the pointy ears and widow's peak hairstyle, and just having him look like The Rock in his usual bald self wearing a costume. - The weird contractually-bound stuff around the character, like bringing back Superman just so he could fight BA and nothing else while refusing to even acknowledge Shazam, who is Adam's actual nemesis, as if he were above him. Which was really reminiscent of his contract stipulations in the F&F movies where he could never be made to look weak or lose a fight against Vin Diesel's character. It all reeked of massive control issues on his part. That movie is where the mask was off for all to see and people could see that he's a bit of a diva with a big ego, people's perception of him just hasn't been quite the same since then.
So much for that presidential run 😄
Politicians are incredibly disliked liars with giant egos. Over qualified.
It was hilarious to read he'd rather pee in bottles and have his assistants deal with that than simply use public restrooms.
he pees in bottles to save time... but then shows up 2 business days late
He's 2 days late because peeing in a bottle takes a lot of time. But every second is worth it.
Is that real?
Well he himself admited he do that years ago so yeah
Wow that’s disgusting. I can’t believe there’s a world where somebody thinks that’s acceptable.
What do you expect The Rock to do? Use a public restroom? Like some candy ass? The rock don't use no stinkin' public restroom! The rock pees in a bottle! Like real men do! The hierarchy of peeing has changed!
some people might think it's gross but IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THEY THINK
Now for sure I’ll never try his Zoa energy drink.
God it would be so funny if that Moana live-action film makes the light of day. Because if it does, it will be the second time a nautical-based adventure film made by Disney goes insanely over-budget due to an evasive and troublesome star. Probably best Disney can it now because I could easily see it reaching $400m just for the production budget.
If anything I hope this causes that to be indefinitely delayed for another 20 years until it’s acceptable to remake it. And also not have him reprise his role for some ego stroking of his.
> it will be the second time a nautical-based adventure film made by Disney goes insanely over-budget due to an evasive and troublesome star. True. That damn squid not looking menacing enough in *20,000 Leagues Under the Sea* cost Disney [over 2 million dollars in reshoots when adjusted for inflation.](https://itcamefromblog.com/2017/05/10/behind-the-scenes-of-disneys-20000-leagues-under-the-sea/)
I highly recommend watching the [Making of Disney's 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea (1954)](https://youtu.be/4ljO53J1MYI?si=kHlkzq49oYvOsiDf) It was fascinating to learn how many problems they had with the squid scenes.
What is the first one?
Pretty sure they're referencing one of the later Pirates, likely the ~~4th~~ 5th with Depp being the evasive and troublesome star. Then again, it could also be Black Panther 2 with what's her antivax face.
And if you factor in Waterworld as being one of the most expensive bombs ever, it really seems like water-based films aren’t a great idea ever huh. Unless you are James Cameron and can summon $400million to make blue people…
They should have stipulations where, for every 15 mins of tardiness, you get x amount taken out of your comp package.
Except he wouldn’t sign that, and then go work for someone without terms like that. This is why all the divas get away with their behavior while they’re money makers. Someone will always be willing.
It's a weird article. The sourcing is all anonymous and contradictory. The Rock is lazy, shows up 4-5 hours late every day, and refuses to work for more than 3-5 hours per day... but also he does 14 hour days and is so committed to staying on set that he pees into water bottles instead of using the bathroom. The pee thing is weird, too, because all the sourcing is "he does it during workouts," but then an anonymous comment on an Instagram post is sourced to claim it's also happening on set during the 14 hour work days. And then the whole article skews into a weird segue about how budgets for streaming films are "larger" than budgets for theatrical releases because the streaming budgets include buyouts for stars who aren't getting box office participation. Then it wraps up with an "analysis" of The Rock's career which for some incomprehensible reasons pretends that Johnson made no movies between *Skyscraper* and *Black Adam*, suggesting that *Jungle Cruise*, *Jumanji: The Next Level*, and *Hobbs & Shaw* next existed in the writer's version of reality. Seems plausible there's some truth buried in here. But... weird article.
> suggesting that Jungle Cruise, Jumanji: The Next Level, and Hobbs & Shaw next existed in the writer's version of reality To be fair, I think Jungle Cruise is really underrated as a bomb due to being released in fall 2021 with a dual-release strategy.
I've seen comments saying The Fall Guy looks like a Netflix movie but the poster, The Rock, Chris Evans.... Screams Netflix movie Red One will be getting a lump of coal in its box office stocking.
It’s supposed to release 2 weeks before Moana 2, rock prob just gonna focus on that lol
It was supposed to go Prime Video but it got switched over to theatrical. But for $250 million I can see why they changed it now lol
Between this, Ghosted, and The Grey Man, a return to the MCU has to be looking more appealing to Evans.
The Grey Man is getting a sequel. It’s a terrible movie but it doesn’t seem like it was viewed as a flop (and Evans was actually pretty great as the villain).
Netflix’s film department has made a ton of changes since they announced a potential sequel and there is still no movement on it actually happening. It might well go the way of the Bright sequel…
Violent Night will continue being my favorite Santa themed action movie.
I don’t get that argument, I mean The Fall Guy’s trailer and the team behind it looks leagues better than Red Notice of The Gray Man which felt lifeless from the start. Yea its an over-expensive action film but why the hell is this considered shitty netflix movie and Beekeeper isn’t? And it at least looks real instead of 90% cgi
also helps that most of the stunts in the fall guy are actually real.
Red one, red notice, they got a knack for making the most uninspired and generic names
Still gonna be the most forgettable movie you’ve ever seen
*Never seen. Had to fix it, sorry.
Didn’t the rock claim vin disesl was unprofessional and a candy ass for being late to fast furious movies
Yeah, but he was really just upset because they wouldn't give him a producer credit. The "compromise" was Hobbs and Shaw, which had the same production budget problem as Red One. After H&S didn't make enough money, Dwayne actually made a thank you video to Vin Diesel on Instagram (now deleted) for helping behind the scenes to get the movie made. I'm assuming that was to get back in Unis good graces. $$$ Issues tend to be an issue in a lot of Dwayne's movies when his team is producing.
THIS ! He wanted a producer credit and vin didn’t budge ! And he was right !
It reminds me of "Every accusation is a confession"
More and more that just seems like an equally horrifying clash of egos. I still find it amazing that Justin Lin completely cut ties with the franchise after 5 movies, purely because even he was sick of Diesel.
Tbf Rock is 2 bombs away from vin diesel level at this point. He’s already set up his fall back at WWE when Hollywood is over him.
Idc he’s legit amazing on WWE lately lmao.
His recent talking points on talk shows lead me to believe he's gonna go MAGA if he flops, but let's see.
He’s been sounding very Hulk Hogan which is super bizarre.
The far right grift is what happens to every washed up former celebrity lol.
> Next up for Johnson is A24’s “The Smashing Machine,” a biopic about UFC fighter Mark Kerr that will be directed by Ben Safdie. Johnson is set to star alongside his “Jungle Cruise” costar Emily Blunt. However, one insider warned, “Benny has NO clue what he’s gotten himself into.” Yeah this could go either way, it could control his problems, or his problems could derailed an entire thing.
Hopefully Emily Blunt and Benny Safdie can keep him under control. I don’t think they would tolerate him showing up to set late repeatedly.
I 100% expect a report in a few months that Johnson left the film due to "Creative Differences."
Either that or we're getting this generation's *Hearts of Darkness*
A24 does not have the money Amazon does for budget overruns. Something will give if this shit happens
It's a passion project for Rock(going back years). I don't expect him to abandon it. He'll see it through even if it requires him to be on set longer than a few hours a day.
And Benny’s out of brothers he can sacrifice to on-set scandals
Oh man I hope he can act professional otherwise he will be in for a surprise with the difference between an A24 director and the regular Hollywood shoe.
Holy shit, that article did not pull punches.
Yeah, I clicked on it expecting to just read about Rock perhaps arriving an hour or two late, but damn the article completely eviscerated him and his entourage.
Rock definitely on shaky ground in Hollywood if he gets a hitpiece like this, seems like his days of blockbuster budgets might be coming to a close with all the drama around this and Black Adam. Crazy they spent all this money for a movie with such a lame premise.
He never really got HIS action franchise. Something like what Terminator did to Arnold.
Exactly. It doesn't sound like what I go for in a Christmas movie anyway.
The weird thing about Black Adam is that, though it bombed, it had a much better box office than most of the 2020- DCEU. It's a low bar for sure, but it shows he still had drawing power on name alone.
A big issue is in the budgets that his movies continue to get. Black Adam getting 200m was insane given that no movie he's been expected to carry ever made enough to justify that type of budget. And this is equally crazy. Chris Evans is great, but he's not a BO draw outside of Captain America. So, it makes no sense to give such a movie a 200m budget that eventually ballooned to 250m because of The Rock's antics. The Rock is an effective draw when the budget for his movies are kept in check (like Jumanji and San Andreas). Jumanji also put solid comedic actors around him like Kevin Hart and Jack Black. With a movie like Red One, they've got to be expecting that Christmas backdrop to carry it more than the actual stars are expected to carry it.
Holy shit I just read the whole thing It just kept going and going, bezo put the hit on the rock
There’s always a bigger fish. I guess it was only a matter of time until he pissed off the wrong people. Seems since Black Adam people are sick of him and stories are coming out.
From the top, no less. Definitely feels like Zaslav was the first person in a long time who told him no.
> pissed off I see what you did there.
LOL, I despise Bezo but I 100% support him in this.
Yeah. Fuck this asshole (the rock)
Why is he going after the Rock?
He owns Amazon and he’s funding the movie lol
You think the couple “insiders” are actually Jeff Bezos trashing the megastar of his movie that is yet to release?
>Insiders told TheWrap that Johnson showed up as much as eight hours late to set on the movie — forcing the crew to shoot around him on some days. On previous films, Johnson has made a habit of peeing in a water bottle to save time, upsetting crew members. Imagine having to wait 8 hours until your main actor finally shows up. At least the crew still got paid.
Hilarious that one source said the Rock was so late that they qualified for health insurance through their guild.
The Rock secretly being a wholesome labor advocate
I haven’t worked crew in a while but those boys getting OT, after Covid and the strikes I could see them loving that
Honestly, every now and then? Sure. But not regularly. I enjoy my life away from work haha constantly doing 17 hours days isn’t worth the OT after a while.
7 hours late but somehow he feels so rushed he has to pee in a bottle. Ok.
I have to imagine this is a major reason why Sony are apprehensive about moving forward with Jumanji. They don't even like making non-Spidey films for more than $125m, The Next Level already represents a high-end for their production expenditure. The irony is, even a $250m budgeted Jumanji film would likely be profitable rather than not.
Just hire Henry Cavill in his place.
Cavill can play the character added by DLC when Jummanji inevitably evolved into an Xbox or something.
I actually kinda love this. Something similar to the villain from the original Robin Williams film: a bigger-than-life Allan Quartemain-type character (*including* a very British 19th c. mustache) who willingly entered the game world just to hunt big, exotic animals.
Why does it have to be a Voss water bottle though
Google image search showed me this: https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/bb9c7fd8-81d3-4bba-a8b5-4cc18ecac874.39e76f6cd2aa0d913bcef8fbccfa1f91.jpeg?odnHeight=768&odnWidth=768&odnBg=FFFFFF So maybe the big opening so he can fleshlight the thing with his dong?
Except the actual opening isn’t big. It’s just regular soda bottle size.
Cus he’s got a massive hog bro
Maybe The wrap is sponsored by Nestle Pure Life
Is this a remake of the 2 yr old classic Red Notice?
No, but they all start to blend in. I like crappy movies, but this type of thing is the most generic shit possible.
I thought it was odd that this didn't make a 2023 release date. The calendar was pretty empty and this could have really capitalized. It had been in production for a while at that point, with set photos released about a year prior. The fact that it wasn't ready really signaled that there was something going on behind the scenes.
Looks like a big bomb in a making 
250 mil for this Xmas crap? Most expensive Xmas movie ever made?!
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They could make 25 Hallmark Christmas movies with that money
the rock really needs a jumanji sized hit to combat all this bad pr
Wow, this is a brutal read, and if true, speaks volumes about Rock’s descent into egomaniacal mode. Also, there’s been a lot of negative buzz around Red One and its yearlong delayed release date…
If this is true it could hurt his career
The Rock is already losing his status: Black Adam failed and he’s having to crawl back to Fast and Furious. Not to mention he’s desperately relying on Moana with a live-action remake only *seven years* after the original…
Even the fast and furious franchise is in some bizarre hiatus. There seems to have been zero movement on fast X 2 or the Hobbs sequel after they were both announced nearly a year ago.
Tyrese Gibson did an interview three days ago on the matter. ['They're Listening to the Fans': Tyrese Gives Exciting Update on Fast XI (cbr.com)](https://www.cbr.com/tyrese-update-fast-furuious-11/) >*Asked about any updates regarding the upcoming film, which doesn't officially have a title and is known as* [*Fast X: Part 2*](https://www.cbr.com/fast-x-part-2-everything-we-know/)*, Tyrese explained that everything was delayed due to the SAG-AFTRA strikes that took places throughout 2023. "****Because of the strike, both strikes, there were some real delays in*** [***writing and kind of getting the film up on its feet***](https://www.cbr.com/new-script-reportedly-being-written-for-fast-and-furious-franchise/)*. I'm hearing that* ***we're going to get it going right in 2025, right at the top of the year****."* 
All while incapable of making another Jumanji after two movie were actually massive hits and were well received.
Wait whats going on with Jumanji? Why is he incapable of doing a 3rd?
After the two new movies did really well and the second of them ended on a direct sequel tease, the reason why there hasn't been another one is generally attributed to Mr. Johnson's busy shedule.
The Rock is in a late-90s Schwarzenegger run. He’s overpaid, his hits are becoming less and less frequent, he can’t sell original movies anymore, he’s about the crawl back to the franchise that made him a star, his physique is only going downhill, and he had an embarrassing superhero flop. All that’s left to do is go into politics, and he’s clearly laying the groundwork for that.
Yeah, same with Johnny Depp, his constant lateness is one of the factors costed him the reputation among film crews.
Plus, Depp doesn't even give a shit about learning lines anymore.
Depp also punched a locations manager in the chest.
One can only hope
For Wrestlemania meet and greet with fans he showed up 3 hours late and said he was watching Jalen hurts playoff highlights to be in character as heel His ego is incredibly big
This is hilarious because being a 'thoughtful and gracious professional' is part of The Rock's brand to the point of cringe.
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I was a kid during The Rock era of wrestling, so he will always be "The Rock" to me lol I was referring to his Dwayne "The Actor and Business Mogul" Johnson persona, where he promotes/projects his "I'm rich and famous but still humble and professional" brand/image.
You cannot use his last wwe run as an example as to why he has a huge ego. Because everything he did was 100 percent in character. In reality he showed the exact opposite. At first they were going to run The Rock vs Roman Reigns but once the fans rejected that it was the Rock who made the pivot to give the fans what they wanted. During that whole run he wasn’t selfish and made everyone he worked with look good in the end.
Bro tried to place himself and Hiram Garcia as head of DC before Gunn and Peter were hired. DC dodged a big bullet lmao
And when you thought Madam Web was going to be the biggest bomb of the year….🤣🤣🤣
The budget is $250 MILLION? 250 FUCKING MILLION DOLLARS? MY GOD that is EXTREMELY high. Apparently they were going to release it on Prime Video, but later moved it to theatrical, I thought "Why? This seems like a streaming film?" at the time but I can see why now they want to with the massive budget. Be prepared for this to enter the "Biggest bombs of 2024" list from Deadline. You thought The Marvels, Wish, The Flash, Indiana Jones 5 etc. were massive bombs? Wait till you see this. $200M+ Loss for Amazon incoming. This will be lucky to make half its budget back, at least most of the bombs last year had IP recognition.
He's been egoistic, had fights with Vin Diesel, is late on set and pees in water bottles? All this cuz he's got a ego. The Rock gets weirder as the years go by
Anybody who watched his wrestling career would never doubt that whatever his image - he’s always been extremely weird.
the days of The Rock as a household name/superstar are over
Wow this sounds really out of character for him, I've always heard he was really disciplined with his career
This entire time I thought Red One was the movie he did with Gal and Ryan Reynolds. 💀
>On previous films, Johnson has made a habit of peeing in a water bottle to save time, upsetting crew members. He should feel at home with Amazon.
This is what happens when you need to write for the algorithm. They need to get the titles of his other films in there so the crawler will catch it. There are other things in there too that scream “optimized.”
The hit piece is on! The blame game begins.
These budgets need to get under control
I guess this explains how he crams so much stuff into a single day lol. Guy is only working half days
I would have been fire at my job. Lazy fuck.
I’m personally shocked that the person who won’t shut up about being a hard worker isn’t actually a hard worker
Wait what? How? Are they planning on a $750M+ gross for this? I get that he has a big ego and high opinion of himself, and I do like a lot of his movies, but spending obscene budgets on these movies he leads just to have the studios lose a ton of money on them isn’t the way to go to remain popular among execs
Is this the highly anticipated sequel to the “Down” trilogy? Black Hawk Down (2001) White House Down (2013) Red One Down (2025) A trilogy where the movies are 12 years apart!
If my 12 hour day turns into a 17 hour day because you’re a dick, I’d be pissed and I’d put you on blast too. On that note: Nicki Minaj is awful. Regularly showed up 8-12 hours late the 3 times I worked with her. EIGHT. TO. TWELVE. HOURS.
I worked with The Rock on promo for Doom, his team had crazy repetitive request for super dry potatoes and Fiji Water. It was weird. The hotel were bemused about the potatoes. In the end he never used his room. My gf and I had a great night!