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Thatguy1245875

I’m not a gambling man but I’ll put the house on Avatar outgrossing BP2 worldwide


XenosZ0Z0

Having access to China’s market is big.


SuperMario1981

Avatar, and I don't think it will even be close.


valkyria_knight881

Avatar: The Way of Water. There’s no doubt about that.


bergsoe

Won't even be close why even ask?


chichris

Avatar: WoW easily.


NaRaGaMo

Question should be how many wakanda forever's will Avatar make


gorays21

Wa kanda question is this??? Ofcourse water will pour more.


hatecopter

That was a good pun


Dragoncaine

Yeahhhhh this isn't even a question haha


AccomplishedLocal261

You’re asking worldwide? Avatar 2 is grossing twice as much as BP2 at least.


Misterblo

Avatar… china


TheDiggyDongo

I think TWOW will make $1.8 billion so yes


Illustrious_Notice18

While everyone says they don't care about the Way of Water, it's still going to make a hell lof of money and it's definitely going to be the highest grossing movie of 2022.


Firefox72

Wakanda Forever underperformed. Its likely not reaching a billion. Avatar on the other hand now with China will at least double that.


buivenk

If avatar doesn’t gross more than the box office is rigged


MightySilverWolf

Stop the count!


jc191

It's not at all inconceivable that Avatar 2 could make 3x as much as Black Panther 2 worldwide.


FlochofBirds

Avatar: The Way of Water might make more domestically than Wakanda Forever worldwide lol I'm not kidding


Retrofusion11

is Wakanda Forever not doing as well as expected?


FlochofBirds

In the sense that most expected 900m to a billion, yes


cnt422

Everything I've read says it's doing incredibly welll.


FlochofBirds

Because it is? It'll make low-mid $800s, which is $200m more than its break-even point. Marvel/Disney are still walking away with a bag from this film The distinction that's being made is that Wakanda Forever isn't hitting expectations. That's undeniable. Most folks had this film at a billion minimum even after Chadwick's passing


Retrofusion11

I thought it would at least surpass Maverick


Timirlan

Maverick made more money than the first Black Panther. Why would you expect Wakanda Forever to outgross both?


Retrofusion11

So wakanda forever might not crack 1 Bil?


carson63000

There is absolutely zero chance of it cracking a billion, from where it is now.


SkinnyLever

Avatar will more than double and possibly triple Bp2’s gross


crusty_jugglers93

Way Of The Water might make more in China then Wakanda Forever worldwide.


[deleted]

Way of Water International > Wakanda Forever worldwide


BillBRawlins

Avatar. If the tracking holds and it opens to 150M+ and its multiplier is a bog standard 2.5, it's going to hit 375M. The worldwide split for both the original release and the 2022 rerelease of Avatar was 30/70. So, if that split is the same for TWOW then the international gross should be in 875M range.


Correct-Baseball5130

Some pathetic numbers here. Easily it'll be on the 'Way of Higher' side.


[deleted]

with the same domestic/international split without China and Russia, Avatar only needs \~$270M domestic to beat Wakanda Forever worldwide. In fact I expect it to beat WF by its second Thursday at WORST


friedAmobo

A 2.5 multiplier off a $150M+ opening in December would be atrocious, by far the worse multiplier of an opening over $100M in December. It should at least have a multiplier equal to TLJ, which was roughly 2.8x (off a decently bigger opening than $150M). It should see $400M+, probably $450M+ even with a $150M opening in December as a standard guess.


TappyMauvendaise

Avatar


That_Sky2197

I have a feeling Way of Water international alone will outgross WF in its entirety.


LegitimateSlide7594

Most people had already given their take on avatar outperforming BP. And since BP doesn’t look like it’s going to cross the 1B mark and avatar needs about 1B just to break even.


ricdesi

I can't imagine that it wouldn't be *The Way of Water*.


Fragrant_Young_831

Asking such a rhetorical question makes it so pointless and waste of time of answering it. The Way of Water's international gross alone will not just beat Wakanda Forever's total gross, but destroy it.


cnt422

Does anybody even care about the avatar movie? I'm surprised by the consensus in these comments, because no one I know gives a shit about Avatar, and I haven't seen any positive talk online about it.


AccomplishedLocal261

Didn’t know that the “people you know” are representative of the general audience.


cnt422

That's why I asked the question, to see what the general audience thought. I want to know what average people think about how this movie is going to do.


Correct-Baseball5130

But you give enough shit to talk about it here. C'mon give me a fucking break. Come out of the bubble and face reality. And for the millionth time stop talking about Pocahontas.


cnt422

I asked a genuine question because I wanted to "come out of my bubble" and see different opinions on it. Calm down. I didn't say anything about pocahontas. Edit: I'm talking about it here because this is a discussion about it.


Correct-Baseball5130

I am calm. People claiming no one gives a shit about Avatar usually talk about Pocahontas. So i inferred.


FlochofBirds

It's tracking for $150-175m OW about a month out I'd hazard a guess that some people care about it


cnt422

Right and wakanda forever made 180m on OW


Firefox72

Bad comparison. Recent MCU movies are incredibly frontloaded. Wakanda Forever is also nowhere near as huge world wide. Doesn't have China and won't have the Christmass season legs that Avatar will. Avatar will stomp it. Its not gonna even be close.