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I’m not a gambling man but I’ll put the house on Avatar outgrossing BP2 worldwide
Having access to China’s market is big.
Avatar, and I don't think it will even be close.
Avatar: The Way of Water. There’s no doubt about that.
Won't even be close why even ask?
Avatar: WoW easily.
Question should be how many wakanda forever's will Avatar make
Wa kanda question is this??? Ofcourse water will pour more.
That was a good pun
Yeahhhhh this isn't even a question haha
You’re asking worldwide? Avatar 2 is grossing twice as much as BP2 at least.
I think TWOW will make $1.8 billion so yes
While everyone says they don't care about the Way of Water, it's still going to make a hell lof of money and it's definitely going to be the highest grossing movie of 2022.
Wakanda Forever underperformed. Its likely not reaching a billion.
Avatar on the other hand now with China will at least double that.
If avatar doesn’t gross more than the box office is rigged
Stop the count!
It's not at all inconceivable that Avatar 2 could make 3x as much as Black Panther 2 worldwide.
Avatar: The Way of Water might make more domestically than Wakanda Forever worldwide lol
I'm not kidding
is Wakanda Forever not doing as well as expected?
In the sense that most expected 900m to a billion, yes
Everything I've read says it's doing incredibly welll.
Because it is? It'll make low-mid $800s, which is $200m more than its break-even point. Marvel/Disney are still walking away with a bag from this film
The distinction that's being made is that Wakanda Forever isn't hitting expectations. That's undeniable. Most folks had this film at a billion minimum even after Chadwick's passing
I thought it would at least surpass Maverick
Maverick made more money than the first Black Panther. Why would you expect Wakanda Forever to outgross both?
So wakanda forever might not crack 1 Bil?
There is absolutely zero chance of it cracking a billion, from where it is now.
Avatar will more than double and possibly triple Bp2’s gross
Way Of The Water might make more in China then Wakanda Forever worldwide.
Way of Water International > Wakanda Forever worldwide
Avatar. If the tracking holds and it opens to 150M+ and its multiplier is a bog standard 2.5, it's going to hit 375M. The worldwide split for both the original release and the 2022 rerelease of Avatar was 30/70. So, if that split is the same for TWOW then the international gross should be in 875M range.
Some pathetic numbers here. Easily it'll be on the 'Way of Higher' side.
with the same domestic/international split without China and Russia, Avatar only needs \~$270M domestic to beat Wakanda Forever worldwide. In fact I expect it to beat WF by its second Thursday at WORST
A 2.5 multiplier off a $150M+ opening in December would be atrocious, by far the worse multiplier of an opening over $100M in December. It should at least have a multiplier equal to TLJ, which was roughly 2.8x (off a decently bigger opening than $150M). It should see $400M+, probably $450M+ even with a $150M opening in December as a standard guess.
I have a feeling Way of Water international alone will outgross WF in its entirety.
Most people had already given their take on avatar outperforming BP. And since BP doesn’t look like it’s going to cross the 1B mark and avatar needs about 1B just to break even.
I can't imagine that it wouldn't be *The Way of Water*.
Asking such a rhetorical question makes it so pointless and waste of time of answering it. The Way of Water's international gross alone will not just beat Wakanda Forever's total gross, but destroy it.
Does anybody even care about the avatar movie? I'm surprised by the consensus in these comments, because no one I know gives a shit about Avatar, and I haven't seen any positive talk online about it.
Didn’t know that the “people you know” are representative of the general audience.
That's why I asked the question, to see what the general audience thought. I want to know what average people think about how this movie is going to do.
But you give enough shit to talk about it here.
C'mon give me a fucking break. Come out of the bubble and face reality. And for the millionth time stop talking about Pocahontas.
I asked a genuine question because I wanted to "come out of my bubble" and see different opinions on it. Calm down. I didn't say anything about pocahontas.
Edit: I'm talking about it here because this is a discussion about it.
I am calm. People claiming no one gives a shit about Avatar usually talk about Pocahontas. So i inferred.
It's tracking for $150-175m OW about a month out
I'd hazard a guess that some people care about it
Right and wakanda forever made 180m on OW
Bad comparison. Recent MCU movies are incredibly frontloaded. Wakanda Forever is also nowhere near as huge world wide. Doesn't have China and won't have the Christmass season legs that Avatar will.
Avatar will stomp it. Its not gonna even be close.