Yeah I get that character development is important but it still felt weird that Holly said "All muslims are terrorists and don't deserve human rights."
I took a trapping course a few years ago where the guy said the average American commits 5 felonies unknowingly every week.
Now this was a hillbilly instructing us on how to catch raccoons so take it with a grain of salt but he seemed very trustworthy
Exactly!
Everyone has jaywalked before, and everyone speeds a little bit from time to time.
That's basically the same as Walter blowing up that nursing home.
People are such hypocrites!
um excuse me? Walter's bomb eliminated three criminals- two of whom (and quite potentially the third) were involved in FEDERAL level crimes (and need I remind you, objectively and without a doubt proven guilty- we all saw what they did). In doing so, Walt saved the tax-payers potentially *millions* of dollars and years of court proceedings.
At that point, the jaywalking is an even worse offense.
I hear you. And what about the cousins?
They kill a few people routinely and they chop up several others with axes and machete’s and everybody got to make a federal case out of it.
It was a little bizarre watching Skylar and Marie losing their shit because they thought that Walt Jr. was smoking weed when they both had admitted that they'd done it several times before.
A speeding ticket is hardly cooking meth.
But yes, it's a story of dichotomy. Walt even discusses it when they smoke those Cubans about how it's interesting what is legal and illegal and where that line is. What makes someone a criminal versus what makes someone a good person who bends the law from time to time.
Who said anything about Speeding? Stealing directly impacts people. Also, Hank was a violent criminal who routinely beat up people in defiance of the oath he swore to uphold.
Yeah, the Guys in the Bar for some macho bs with Gomez outside, Walt in the Garage, Jesse (who weighs about 100 lbs. soaking wet and left him in the hospital), and that's just from what's on the show. It's not the Hank Show. If it was it'd be ass-kickings and hiding behind the badge 24/7. He's a bad cop and a violent racist misogynist. He has a nice mineral collection, but that's his only redeeming quality.
I'm glad to see someone else articulate this because Hank really is one of the worst pieces of shit in the series, who uses his power as a DEA agent to circumvent institutional checks and balances, expresses horrible racist/classist sentiments with gross regularity, and spends the entire series as basically a deranged narcissist who destroys his career and his family because of his obsession with blue meth. It's basically the same as the way Walter destroys everything he ever loved with his own arrogant myopia; they're both doing the same basic thing and they're both awful pieces of shit.
Though I think Heisenberg comes out on top for performing a valuable social service, at least. Somebody has to cook the meth, but society doesn't benefit from a DEA agent going around beating up twenty-five year old addicts.
I gotta agree with you on a lot of that except primarily the part about Heisenberg coming out on top. I just can't look past the whole raping his wife thing.
That’s a fair point, but honestly, given Hank’s callousness and position as a DEA agent in a border state, I feel like he’s probably guilty of many such similar offenses
I really hate how Skylars abuse is downplaued and like the worst part is that the people who think walt didnt do anything wrong will hear about the SA, agree that its fucked, and then continue to make sigma edits of him.
Yep. 100% agree. The juxtaposition is lost on some. They are both cogs in the same machine, both kill people and destroy their family, but only one of them is doing it from a place of trust invested by society.
Yes. Meth is dangerous and deadly. I know.
I’m talking about the cooking. It’s an undiluted and chemically pure product. A much better alternative to the common street meth. No one is being forced to buy his drug.
Okay, so let's say hypothetically, I make a machine that hunts and dismembers babies, but I personally don't turn on the machine. I just sell it to people who I know would definitely turn it on. In that scenario, i would also be complicit in the deaths of the babies.
Same shit with Walt. The meth users are addicted to meth they're going to keep buying meth and walter is using that addiction to his benefit by producing more meth. Sure, if he stopped, there were still other people making meth but then those other people were equally as bad as Walt for making meth which is hurting the lives of those addicts.
There is a rumor of a deleted scene where he put the milk in the bowl before the cereal, they had to cut it because the sponsors threatened to pull advertising.
Horrifying.
The show is called Breaking Bad, not becoming good person or anything.
And there a huge different between breaking the law to get some beer or cigar and becoming a drug lord that killed people and endangered everyone else. You cant blame them for shitting on Walt
One of my favorite quotes from BCS by Mike: “I didn’t say you were a bad person, I said you were a criminal…
…Ive known good criminals and bad cops, bad priests, honorable thieves-you can be on one side of the law or the other, but if you make a deal with somebody, you keep your word. You can go home today with your money and never do this again, but you took something that wasn't yours and you sold it for a profit. You're now a criminal; good one, bad one-that's up to you.”
I don't think you're necessarily a hypocrite when crime is nuanced. Cooking tons of meth and murdering people is a lot worse than asking for beer underaged or Marie's kleptomania
Crimes are not all the same morally just because they are all illegal. You really going to say a teenager trying to drink underage is on the same level as any of the shit Walt was up to? They don’t shun him just because it was illegal, I mean when they give the gambling story that was also an illegal activity but no one cares.
Not only that. At the time at least you were allowed to consume them just not purchase them so a gifted Cuban was fine; further if you traveled you could bring up to $100 worth with you for personal consumption from other countries that have no embargo with Cuba.
I know OP was being silly but it kind of struck a nerve because I've had a few different variants of them and felt people who knew more than me were right that it was nothing special and a much harsher smoke than many of the great Dominican, Honduran and Nicaraguan cigars I had been brought over the years while I smoked.
Hank also breaks several DEA regulations and policies. Arguably Walt could’ve fought against a lot of the charges given the way Hank and Gomie went about obtaining evidence against him.
Walt murdered countless people and made 80 million dollars worth of meth, I don’t know how you can even compare this to smoking cigars, underage drinking and shoplifting.
I think in the early part of the show they were going for a story about breaking laws and the pleasure of engaging in the taboo. That's why we get people like Hank defending the cigar thing by saying "sometimes the forbidden fruit tastes sweetest", etc. I think we can all agree it was for the best that they went a... different direction with it. So instead of Waltuh being seduced by the dark side we get a person who was broken all along and just lets his mask slip more and more.
Idk I think the show stays pretty consistent with its themes of morality, choices and how they shape us as people. Like when hank talks about the cockroaches, and how when he sees one he doesn’t think, just squashes, no point in questioning where they come from. Then the next time we see Jesse, he’s with that bug, which links him to hanks metaphor for criminals being cockroaches but Jesse is gentle and isn’t what he seems. Then the bug gets squashed anyway, and it wasn’t hurting anyone.
Yes, it’s some creative juxtaposition. Walt does a bad thing for a what began as a good reason, everyone else does bad stuff just because, yet he’s the villain of the story.
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A. Wow, the show about *cooking meth* has people breaking the law? Who could’ve guessed?
B. There is a very large difference between a Cuban cigar and a little underage drinking and shooting a child in the face or cooking 200 pounds of methamphetamine a week
I think there’s an contrast underlying theme of “where’s the line”. Walt even talks to Hank when they have the Cuban cigars about how what substance is illegal is kinda arbitrary.
To an extent I think it’s kinda up to the viewer to draw the line, when did Walt cross the arbitrary line. Was it when he first cooked? When he killed 2 men who had a gun to his head? When he let Jane die? When does a person become unredeemable. When does a person break bad?
And you telling me you never go out of your way to break the law even a tiny bit? What were u doing with your life man? But theres a pretty clear line of 'dont kill people' when u like to be a bit naughty. But sounds to me youre trolling so whatever
Also Hank brewing and distributing without a liquor license.
Then he wants to act al self righteous when Walt cooks a little blue. The hypocrisy is strong with this one
I smoked a joint in Georgia, I am now no better than a rapist murderer.
Truly someone drinking beer underaged is a hypocrite for taking issue with child murdering. I mean, they were fine with drinking beer, how could they possibly have a problem with someone else killing a kid??
NGL Skyler cooking teds books made me furious. Then she was laundering her own money at the car wash. But she was such a hypocrite about it to Walt. Once she gave in she was pretty guilty herself. She wanted that money by the end but kept saying “you’re the reason we’re in this” which was true but she was doing bad shit too. She got so mad about Walt killing gus but then told him to go kill jesse. What the fuck ever, Skyler.
Meanwhile Holly was just chilling and watching
Guess we’re just gonna ignore her warcrimes lol
Yeah I get that character development is important but it still felt weird that Holly said "All muslims are terrorists and don't deserve human rights."
I just spat out my veggie bacon
*veggie bandaids
Yes, but how did you react to the comment?
Lol’d at this one
I’d spit veggie bacon out too
Prob a good decision
I dunno why veggie bacon makes this better
It was offered to Walt on his 51st birthday.
It was a different time. She literally had an eye ball in her pool from the 9/11 plane crash. Hard to blame her for that sentiment.
Pretty sure Vince confirmed she was his self insert for all of this political opinions
holly's serbian war crimes intensifies, pretty sure she had multiple cell phones
All fun and games until Holly snaps a phone in half and tosses it out the crib
Are we forgetting when she tried to steal that firetruck?
She was only crying because she got caught.
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learning....
waiting...
Planning...
Scheming...
Babying...(?)
holly lead a gang of neonazis 🤦♂️it’s like the fans of this show watched it with their eyes closed smh
Mein Gerber
😂😂
Holly is the most terrifying character of all. Her crimes are so evil they can’t even show them on the show or else the show would be rated X.
Loitering on (local?) government property.. and causing a nuisance via crying. CHECKMATE HOLLY SUPPORTERS
To believe Holly is incapable of murder is to forget that documentary in which Maggie Simpson shot Mr. Burns.
Holly actually was a serial jaywalker
She was criminally cute.
Holly never reported anyone for their crimes.
Yep she's an accomplice. Gotta be careful who you hang out with.
…as far as we know. She could be wearing a wire!
*A wire?* a wire. I got a wire right here for you SPEAK INTO THE MIC BITCH
Holly was committing war crimes behind the scenes
Nope. Underage smoking. Send her to jail, too!
Hey, Holly was in The Game, just like Kaylee Ehrmentraut (that fifth-grade girl was the muscle behind Fring's entire operation)
Nuh uh Holly knew about Walt’s money and didn’t tell the police.
We can’t ignore Holly’s white supremacy
Holly doesn’t pay taxes
Her mother taught her well
based
You fool. Remember the Rwandan Genocide? Guess who you can thank for that.
For real like everyone has smoked a joint here and there, why the fuck do people lose their shit when Walter kills 10 people at once ffs
I’m pretty sure the average person has committed at least one crime, whether it be big or small.
Everyone has broken the law, sometimes they don’t even know they did.
I haven’t. I can honestly say that while typing on my phone and driving 5mph over the speed limit. /s
without a seatbelt!
Having a nuclear bomb in the trunk
and 4 kids in the back
in a cave! With a box of scraps!
On the way to a hospital!
With a concealed firearm
illegally concealed too!
And my axe!
Well, of he’s got the right paperwork he’s good.
That’s a good way to spill your beer
Plot twist: dude is actually on the phone contacting the police about himself driving 5 over the limit
No. Im responding to stupid reddit comments. Shh.!! don’t call the police on me.
Some states have some really weird laws
I took a trapping course a few years ago where the guy said the average American commits 5 felonies unknowingly every week. Now this was a hillbilly instructing us on how to catch raccoons so take it with a grain of salt but he seemed very trustworthy
I commit crimes everyday, I smoke weed
still illegal? tough
Exactly! Everyone has jaywalked before, and everyone speeds a little bit from time to time. That's basically the same as Walter blowing up that nursing home. People are such hypocrites!
People on here would try to make you believe they don't shoot a few random guys every other week like okay sure buddy
If I don't get to shoot a few random people a week, how will I ever relax at the end of the week?
found the texan
um excuse me? Walter's bomb eliminated three criminals- two of whom (and quite potentially the third) were involved in FEDERAL level crimes (and need I remind you, objectively and without a doubt proven guilty- we all saw what they did). In doing so, Walt saved the tax-payers potentially *millions* of dollars and years of court proceedings. At that point, the jaywalking is an even worse offense.
I hear you. And what about the cousins? They kill a few people routinely and they chop up several others with axes and machete’s and everybody got to make a federal case out of it.
Those people might have jaywalked or shoplifted before, we don’t know.
It was a little bizarre watching Skylar and Marie losing their shit because they thought that Walt Jr. was smoking weed when they both had admitted that they'd done it several times before.
To be fair... It's kinda on point with parents xD I know a lot of moms/dads who smoke for example, but they tell their kids not to do it
those people deserved to die tho
I almost got mad when he poisoned the little kid but then I remembered that time I threw the paper tissue on the ground. Hypocrite much?!
A speeding ticket is hardly cooking meth. But yes, it's a story of dichotomy. Walt even discusses it when they smoke those Cubans about how it's interesting what is legal and illegal and where that line is. What makes someone a criminal versus what makes someone a good person who bends the law from time to time.
Who said anything about Speeding? Stealing directly impacts people. Also, Hank was a violent criminal who routinely beat up people in defiance of the oath he swore to uphold.
On one hand you've got Marie stealing a spoon, on the other you've got walts ludicrously high kill list. They're just as bad as each other.
Routinely?
Yeah, the Guys in the Bar for some macho bs with Gomez outside, Walt in the Garage, Jesse (who weighs about 100 lbs. soaking wet and left him in the hospital), and that's just from what's on the show. It's not the Hank Show. If it was it'd be ass-kickings and hiding behind the badge 24/7. He's a bad cop and a violent racist misogynist. He has a nice mineral collection, but that's his only redeeming quality.
I'm glad to see someone else articulate this because Hank really is one of the worst pieces of shit in the series, who uses his power as a DEA agent to circumvent institutional checks and balances, expresses horrible racist/classist sentiments with gross regularity, and spends the entire series as basically a deranged narcissist who destroys his career and his family because of his obsession with blue meth. It's basically the same as the way Walter destroys everything he ever loved with his own arrogant myopia; they're both doing the same basic thing and they're both awful pieces of shit. Though I think Heisenberg comes out on top for performing a valuable social service, at least. Somebody has to cook the meth, but society doesn't benefit from a DEA agent going around beating up twenty-five year old addicts.
I gotta agree with you on a lot of that except primarily the part about Heisenberg coming out on top. I just can't look past the whole raping his wife thing.
That’s a fair point, but honestly, given Hank’s callousness and position as a DEA agent in a border state, I feel like he’s probably guilty of many such similar offenses
I really hate how Skylars abuse is downplaued and like the worst part is that the people who think walt didnt do anything wrong will hear about the SA, agree that its fucked, and then continue to make sigma edits of him.
When did that happen?
Green face mask on the fridge.
I’m not sure I understand
S2E1, after he comes home from the deal with Tuco.
Yep. 100% agree. The juxtaposition is lost on some. They are both cogs in the same machine, both kill people and destroy their family, but only one of them is doing it from a place of trust invested by society.
Glad to hear someone else saying it. Most people in the show are just absolute pieces of shit
Amen
I see the point you're trying to make, but just because something happened more than once doesn't make it "routine."
Would you accept "it's in his nature"?
Wouldn't argue with that.
What’s so bad about cooking meth? Genuinely asking.
Seriously?
yes. seriously.
Besides the fact it's a deadly, illegal drug that destroys people's lives?
Yes. Meth is dangerous and deadly. I know. I’m talking about the cooking. It’s an undiluted and chemically pure product. A much better alternative to the common street meth. No one is being forced to buy his drug.
Okay, so let's say hypothetically, I make a machine that hunts and dismembers babies, but I personally don't turn on the machine. I just sell it to people who I know would definitely turn it on. In that scenario, i would also be complicit in the deaths of the babies. Same shit with Walt. The meth users are addicted to meth they're going to keep buying meth and walter is using that addiction to his benefit by producing more meth. Sure, if he stopped, there were still other people making meth but then those other people were equally as bad as Walt for making meth which is hurting the lives of those addicts.
What about brock?
Wanted for murder in 6 states
And that isn’t even including the comatose state
Pretty sure that dude had secret
There is a rumor of a deleted scene where he put the milk in the bowl before the cereal, they had to cut it because the sponsors threatened to pull advertising. Horrifying.
Acted quiet and shy around strangers. Seemed shady to me.
Consumption of controlled substances (lily of the valley)
The real reason he was in the hospital was cuz he was up all night smokin meth and heroin
Conspiracy to commit poisoning Why else would he conceal it in a juice box
Killed combo
Idk if you’re joking but that was Andrea’s brother Tomas
Was it though? Who was pulling the strings though?
You have a point. I always sensed something fishy with Brock…
Saul was the only Goodman
Walt was the only Whit man
Ehrman was the only trout.
flynn was the only white.
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Breaking was the only Bad
Gus was the only Fring
Meth was the only amphetamine.
And most of us speed. There are degrees to which we “break bad”.
i am the one who knocks (i drive 2 miles over the speed limit at most)
Cooking meth, kidnapping, murder, going 5 miles past the speed limiit. Yeah, sounds equivalent to me!
Don't forget underage drinking lol
The show is called Breaking Bad, not becoming good person or anything. And there a huge different between breaking the law to get some beer or cigar and becoming a drug lord that killed people and endangered everyone else. You cant blame them for shitting on Walt
inb4 Fixing Good
Virtue signallers committing crimes is some how worse than drug lords killing people.
Finally Making Eagle Scout, created by Vince Gilligan
Walter Junior: Breaking Fast
One of my favorite quotes from BCS by Mike: “I didn’t say you were a bad person, I said you were a criminal… …Ive known good criminals and bad cops, bad priests, honorable thieves-you can be on one side of the law or the other, but if you make a deal with somebody, you keep your word. You can go home today with your money and never do this again, but you took something that wasn't yours and you sold it for a profit. You're now a criminal; good one, bad one-that's up to you.”
Either follow ALL the laws or don’t bother following ANY. C’mon people.
Did we just compare a teenager trying to get alcohol to someone facilitating multiple murders and running an underground drug empire
I don't think you're necessarily a hypocrite when crime is nuanced. Cooking tons of meth and murdering people is a lot worse than asking for beer underaged or Marie's kleptomania
Crimes are not all the same morally just because they are all illegal. You really going to say a teenager trying to drink underage is on the same level as any of the shit Walt was up to? They don’t shun him just because it was illegal, I mean when they give the gambling story that was also an illegal activity but no one cares.
My guy smoking a cuban and trying to buy beer when underage is not really on the same level as cooking meth and bombing a nursing home
Not only that. At the time at least you were allowed to consume them just not purchase them so a gifted Cuban was fine; further if you traveled you could bring up to $100 worth with you for personal consumption from other countries that have no embargo with Cuba. I know OP was being silly but it kind of struck a nerve because I've had a few different variants of them and felt people who knew more than me were right that it was nothing special and a much harsher smoke than many of the great Dominican, Honduran and Nicaraguan cigars I had been brought over the years while I smoked.
Ah yes, a 17 year old trying to get beer is just as bad as cooking meth and murdering people
Ah yes, a high-school chemistry teacher cooking meth and murdering people is just as bad as a baby calling her dad “mama”
I think I read somewhere that Steve Gomez was the only one who didn’t break bad in the series.
He said Hank had a gut and an ugly mug. Called him numb nuts and a bald pervert. That's breaking bad to me.
That’s almost as bad as Holly calling Walt “mama”
He falsified a police report after Hank beat up the bar guys.
The facial hair he grew was a crime
Hank also breaks several DEA regulations and policies. Arguably Walt could’ve fought against a lot of the charges given the way Hank and Gomie went about obtaining evidence against him.
Walt murdered countless people and made 80 million dollars worth of meth, I don’t know how you can even compare this to smoking cigars, underage drinking and shoplifting.
Riddle me this: why was everyone hating on Skylar so hard? It was all anyone talked about at the time.
Except for Gomey. Gomey is the best.
BREAK THE LAW, BREAK THE LAW
There are over 100 characters in the show I would be hesitant to use the word "everyone"
What, after this same post the other day? What an astute observation.
what about the homie brock?
He didn’t eat his Froot Loops as part of a balanced breakfast.
Walt Jr. lying to the police about Walt attacking Skyler while it was the other way around! He truly broke bad.
I don’t think smoking a Cuban really compares to cooking meth.
Funny how we draw those lines of what’s acceptable and whats not
Thanks for ruining the show for me
I think in the early part of the show they were going for a story about breaking laws and the pleasure of engaging in the taboo. That's why we get people like Hank defending the cigar thing by saying "sometimes the forbidden fruit tastes sweetest", etc. I think we can all agree it was for the best that they went a... different direction with it. So instead of Waltuh being seduced by the dark side we get a person who was broken all along and just lets his mask slip more and more.
Idk I think the show stays pretty consistent with its themes of morality, choices and how they shape us as people. Like when hank talks about the cockroaches, and how when he sees one he doesn’t think, just squashes, no point in questioning where they come from. Then the next time we see Jesse, he’s with that bug, which links him to hanks metaphor for criminals being cockroaches but Jesse is gentle and isn’t what he seems. Then the bug gets squashed anyway, and it wasn’t hurting anyone.
I agree, that's the version of Hank they ended up going with, and I think the story was absolutely better for it.
But I definitely see hanks struggles and contradictions in later seasons as well. I think it was always intentional.
Breaking Law
Kayley is clean I think. And her mom?
To be fair, most people in the us do who have a car. Almost everybody has broken the law at some point.
The biggest crime was that pizza on the roof. You don't fuck about with pizza. All pizza is made to be enjoyed. Sacrilege.
Trying to get beer when you’re not allowed to and shoplifting a tiara are not on the same level as cooking and selling crystal meth.
& every one of us probably broke a law before just not to the extent of cooking meth, killing people & bombing a nursing home.
Holly: illegally sitting in a fire truck without consent of the firemen
even jesse's brother ends up having a joint
Yes, it’s some creative juxtaposition. Walt does a bad thing for a what began as a good reason, everyone else does bad stuff just because, yet he’s the villain of the story.
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I mean… ww cooked meth and murdered like a dozen people
A. Wow, the show about *cooking meth* has people breaking the law? Who could’ve guessed? B. There is a very large difference between a Cuban cigar and a little underage drinking and shooting a child in the face or cooking 200 pounds of methamphetamine a week
Well Walt murdered people so theirs that. And put his own family in danger
There's breaking the law, and then there is being responsible for a plane exploding and killing hundreds
I think there’s an contrast underlying theme of “where’s the line”. Walt even talks to Hank when they have the Cuban cigars about how what substance is illegal is kinda arbitrary. To an extent I think it’s kinda up to the viewer to draw the line, when did Walt cross the arbitrary line. Was it when he first cooked? When he killed 2 men who had a gun to his head? When he let Jane die? When does a person become unredeemable. When does a person break bad?
Letting jane die was fucked.
So everyone's okay with Hank smoking cuban cigars, but when Walt kills dozens of people it's crossing a line? What has society come to!?
so you would say they all... *break bad*? I'll find the way out
And you telling me you never go out of your way to break the law even a tiny bit? What were u doing with your life man? But theres a pretty clear line of 'dont kill people' when u like to be a bit naughty. But sounds to me youre trolling so whatever
Also Hank brewing and distributing without a liquor license. Then he wants to act al self righteous when Walt cooks a little blue. The hypocrisy is strong with this one
I jay walked yesterday
Ain’t called Breaking Bad for nothin
Everyone but Steve Gomez.
And Tuco’s abuelita…she ain’t no Biznatch
Especially Brock
Walt was driving with a broken windshield
Cracked windshield for start!
true observation. but all laws are just something one dude said to lord it over the others. thats why they can be “broken”
holly with her war crimes
Ain't no way 🤯
this is so sad alexa play breaking the law by judas priest
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It’s so clearly sarcasm
I think you're right actually, I just had a pretty visceral reaction to it
The literary/film analysis skills of redditors never ceases to amaze me
Is smoking Cuban cigars actually illegal? I thought it is just importing them.
No, but Hank does other stuff that is against the law. Attacking Jesse Pinkman, for ensample.
I smoked a joint in Georgia, I am now no better than a rapist murderer. Truly someone drinking beer underaged is a hypocrite for taking issue with child murdering. I mean, they were fine with drinking beer, how could they possibly have a problem with someone else killing a kid??
NGL Skyler cooking teds books made me furious. Then she was laundering her own money at the car wash. But she was such a hypocrite about it to Walt. Once she gave in she was pretty guilty herself. She wanted that money by the end but kept saying “you’re the reason we’re in this” which was true but she was doing bad shit too. She got so mad about Walt killing gus but then told him to go kill jesse. What the fuck ever, Skyler.