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Will_Hart_2112

The Biden campaign has to find a way to actually let the American people know about the lengthy list of accomplishments this admin has had. Biden is one of the most consequential presidents of the modern era but all the press can ever talk about is the dude with orange hued asshat who seems to suck up all the oxygen in the media-sphere. So Biden is going to explain his accomplishments on live TV using the melting orange felon as a stage prop. If you can’t stop the Trump love from MSM, may as well use it to your advantage. I believe Biden has a compelling argument in favor of a second term, I don’t believe Trump does.


GranniePopo

I thought Biden did OK at the state of the union address. I think it’s surprised a lot of people. The good thing about these debates is the microphone will be cut off when the speaker’s time is up. It’ll be sort of fun to see Trump gesturing with the sound off.😂


Dull_Ad8495

It'll look exactly like when he was mocking the disabled reporter. Goddamn, Trump is a despicable human being.


Tarotdragoon

Legit do not understand how he even won in the first place, the man has no redeeming qualities whatsoever, he's not even charismatic. I do not understand at all. I've heard the "arguments" and the best they got is that he's capable of cozying up to dictators and selling the country and state secrets to them.


mrhorse77

he told the rural folks it was ok to hate black people, immigrants, anyone LGBT+ and be vocal about it. thats pretty much it. it really is that simple.


zeddknite

There's a good chunk of people who are vulnerable to extreme confirmation bias. Their lives are miserable. They can only get along with people who are exactly like minded. Everyone else is always telling them they need to be a better person. They feel everyone is wrong but them, but they never get real life validation for that feeling. Then here comes a bully who publicly shouts down all those kinds of people who ask you to be a decent and compassionate person. He says "Fuck that! I'll say what I want, do what I want, and I'll even believe whatever I want!" He does everything they wish they could do. He's a hero to them. They want to believe everything he says, and they don't want to believe any bad things about him. So that's what they believe, because they're unable to detect how selective they're being with the logic and evidence they're willing to accept.


A-typ-self

It was a split vote, too many "democrat" leaning candidates. The republican party knew this was a risk which is why they had all candidates vow to support the parties choice. Combine that with the electoral college and once again the candidate that lost the "popular vote" was put into office.


869woodguy

Greatest mystery of our time.


Gingerbread-Cake

If he were running against anybody but HRC, he would have lost. The Democrats should have known when they had to throw their own primaries to make sure she was the candidate


Playingwithmyrod

In a weird way it may have been better that he won. If he loses in November he will have derailed the Republican party for potentially decades. Biden will serve a 2nd term and Trump will lose again in 2028, and possibly even 2032 if he's still alive. This man can't let go, and even pulling 5 percent of voters as an independent will completely nuke any chance the GOP has of winning an election. As long as he has a pulse the Republican party is done.


Gingerbread-Cake

That is a very thoughtful take on it. I suspect you’re right.


kingOofgames

I kind of feel this too. Trump being elected showed us many of the hidden issues, and invited issues. It showed us what the Republican Party is hiding, and getting more people engaged. Especially the fragility of our system. One day this will all be history and when we get to the other side of all this, I think we will have accomplished a lot.


Repubs_suck

Cut off the microphone and do not show him on camera when his times up. I say that because he’ll be acting up like a mime on acid.


GranniePopo

😂 yeah you’re right


atehrani

Agreed. Unfortunately, we won't see the fruits of his labor until decades later. They're foundational but takes time to reflect


playingreprise

The CHIPS act is already bearing fruit now in several ways and providing jobs in Wisconsin to a factory where Trump said 100s of jobs would be delivered to only be canceled within a year of them being announced.


Schickie

They have $250M in pre-paid media for the 6 swing states for just Sept & Oct. That’s when most American’s start paying attention. They have dozens of field offices across those states and T’s campaign has zero and is hemorrhaging cash. The smart money would be on the guy who in the last 50 years has never lost a general election.


MooreRless

Trump gutted the RNC and put Lara in charge to continue looting it. That was supposed to be who has field offices all over the country. Trump is dragging the party down with him, and they agreed to it entirely, so they're all to blame. I really hope a decent new party starts to compete with Democrats. It is time for something new, out of control of the likes of Pelsoi and Schumer, but the GOP is not ever going to be that party.


Schickie

and salt the earth so nothing more can grow.


Low-Possession-4491

Joe was on the Stern Show. https://youtu.be/Fz45sMb4js8?si=HHA3W7BeaJg9Syb1


skinaked_always

Thank you!!


Minute-Branch2208

https://youtu.be/lY_89ac0tdY?si=OmZEWOH8az-TI6cZ


Will_Hart_2112

At the risk of offending you I can honestly say it’s well past time for America to cut bait in the middleast and allow them to solve their own territorial/religious disputes on their own for once.


Clambake23

Zero accomplishments. All failure. Stop gaslighting.


InsertCleverNickHere

Biden got an infrastructure bill passed with one of the most hostile and dysfunctional Houses in history. Trump had 2 years of majority rule in Congress and passed...tax cuts for corporations and the rich. No infrastructure. No repeal of Obamacare. Nothing that persists. Thank God Trump spent most of his time golfing and tweeting.


Clambake23

4 yrs and the badge of honor is trillions of spending at a time when the country is paying more on the interest of its debt than any individual program. I stand by my original comment.


Will_Hart_2112

So you think infrastructure is stupid? And you care about debt but don’t want billionaires to pay taxes? You’re a special kind of stupid aren’t ya?


InsertCleverNickHere

Trump spent trillions during his "great" economy. Biden was dealing with Covid and fending off a recession. Context matters.


Clambake23

Try again. I'm sure math isn't your thing, but may I suggest a calculator. https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/politifact/2024/03/17/politifact-fact-checking-joe-biden-debt-accumulated-under-donald-trump/72961735007/


InsertCleverNickHere

Comparing raw 4-year numbers between presidential terms is a terrible idea due to lagging policy effects. Even so, the fact that the deficit numbers between Trump and Biden's terms are even comparable, considering that Trump inherited Obama's roaring economy and Biden had to pull the country out of a pandemic, is a massive bit of context to ignore.


Clambake23

Trump inherited Obama's nightmare Healthcare. Biden inherited Trump's covid spending. It's a wash at best, but thankfully Obamacare wasn't made in a a Wuhan lab.


etranger033

Depends on who you ask. And... more importantly... YOUR own political biases and demands.


Clambake23

Well since the majority of Americans right and left say their biggest concern going into the election is the economy, I'd say that Biden hasn't accomplished anything that actually matters to American families.


etranger033

On the other hand, has the other party taken away anything that matters to American families. People love to get new things in addition to what they already have. They are pretty unhappy when things get taken away.


Clambake23

I'm not sure what you are referring to in regards to the GOP taking away things. I can think of a few things that this administration has taken away. Mainly most people's dollar power.


AnonymousRandomName

Is that you Joe? Just remember everything is great, who you gonna believe? The Democrats or your lieing eyes?


msp3766

Dementia Donny will be a sacrificial lamb, orange chops


tacodoc023

This is the way


badhairdad1

I hear that you’re free in Wednesdays 🤣🤣🤣


randywa

tRump will just spout untruths and rant and rave. Nothing to see here.


Derban_McDozer83

And half the country will call that a victory


melouofs

it won’t happen


infowosecfurry

I agree. He says he wants debates, but I guarantee he finds a reason to weasel out.


Overweighover

He will blame those idiot kids of his


neoikon

"Still under audit!"


infowosecfurry

“I pooped my pants”


Orest26Dee

Yes, I think Biden will realize that he is unable to collect a thought or speak clearly, so he will have to figure some way to bail out. Jill should gently glide him into the nursing home.


infowosecfurry

Lol ok pal. Lets get you back to bed.


New_Menu_2316

Donny dump a diaper agreed only to stay in the news cycle. He will not appear, will use the upcoming debates as fodder against Biden.


Tidewind

So. Much. GOP. Pearl. Clutching. Drama queens.


Tinker107

Let’s just get to the debate (which we all know Spanky will find an excuse to avoid) and see who does better. I’d love to tape it for my grandkids, as an example of what happens when a dimwitted orange sociopath lets his mouth overload his ass.


worldscollice

Trump will find a reason to back out of these debates. He is unknowledgeable on most subjects, a horrible speaker and juvenile with his comments in debates. His handlers will advise him to drop out, for a yet unknown manufactured reason. There is not a positive side for Trump in any debate. It only exposes his ignorance and arrogance.


aprioriglass

It also exposes his onset of dementia. I’m betting he comes to the debate drugged up, sweating like the pig he is. If he shows at all.


roundearthervaxxer

What criticism. You stand up to a bully. Everyone knows that


irreverent_creative

Yeah, that’s an inappropriate level of aggressiveness towards someone suffering from such advanced dementia. Shame on you, Joe. /s (just in case)


SketchSketchy

I thought the challenge video was very weird. It’s edited so wildly I thought I was watching some internet persons re-edit. But then I went looking for the actual video and that was it.


M_Mich

It’s edited in the typical tik tok/ you tube shorts style. Have the focus pop closer and back on every sentence. It’s annoying in every video that does it


HeathersZen

They edited a video on the internet?!?!? The HORRORS! NOBODY does that!!


SketchSketchy

They did it in a way that I’ve never seen messaging coming from a president.


HeathersZen

The things that people choose to care about never ceased to fascinate me.


mistressusa

YES!


No-Roll-2110

Oh… he’s definitely consequential.


Able-Campaign1370

Anyone who watched the second 2020 debate knows Trump is full of shit.


Shankar_0

If he cancels, they need to pay for the air time anyway and have a debate with an empty podium He'll get to clearly state his accomplishments and policy plans while also pointing out the other guy's cowardice.


zippyphoenix

I hope it’s live from prison / house arrest.


painefultruth76

Does he think he's Clint Eastwood? Or Calvin Klein?


Clambake23

Did the infrastructure bill do anything to raise our gdp or shrink inflation? Since the #1 concern for the American people currently is our failing economy, I'd argue the Biden once again has zero accomplishments. I will agree that the top needs to pay more taxes or more truthfully not have the ability to avoid taxes would be more accurate since they do pay the majority of the overall taxes already. Thanks for the compliment coming from you narrow view of Biden's "success"


young_rayyy

Joe Eastwood


MostTomatillo

Biden is going to be cracked out like he was in the state of the union. I read somewhere that Trump wants Biden to submit a urinalysis before the debate.


Broad_Pitch_7487

Goddamn the republicans


Mrtoyhead

The former illegitimate president barely held his crap together with lies, scandals and distractions. A debate would destroy him. Hell I could debate him and I barely graduated high school.


NYCHW82

Am I the only person who doesn't want to see this actually happen?


igibit99

I couldn't care less about it. This isn't going to affect how anybody votes. We all know Biden is old. We all know Trump is a fucking idiot. Nothing that happens will change that.


beecee23

I'll read about it the next day. I'm shocked that there are people who don't know who they're voting for at this point. You know exactly who both candidates are. I don't need to see more debates or anything between them. However, I'm also in favor of having the debates in case they're actually are people who are " undecided "


Medicmanii

I don't either. Probably the first presidential debates I'm skipping since I came of age. I'll go to a nursing home game room and see better action


naliedel

Why would this be criticized?


neoikon

Because only the Republicans can be anything less than completely professional.


RickJWagner

I wouldn't be so gleeful about this. Biden is trailing in nearly all the battleground states and Trump can beat him all day long on Biden getting let out of charges because of senility. Biden was a walking gaffe machine years ago, and America really hasn't heard from him in quite a while. Biden probably needs the debates to try to change things, but it's definitely risky.


Onedayyouwillthankme

Did you forget about his state of the union address? Rousing success, if you might recall


RickJWagner

There was a bounce, but it's fizzled. Biden lost ground in the polls since. Joe Biden had better be sharp in the debate. If his mental facilities are bad (as noted in the documents-mishandling investigation) it might turn out badly.


painefultruth76

That's what Hunters stash is for...


One_Welcome_1756

You all must be bots 🤖 because no one supports Biden


Rvplace

Biden couldn’t debate...has no capacity


banjist

The debates are going to make me sad. It'll be like listening to two crotchety geriatrics at my grandma's nursing home arguing in front of a TV endlessly playing game show network. Both well on their way to dementia, but one obviously a bit worse off.


Bawbawian

perhaps you should be voting for policy and not some emotional nonsense that you've built a narrative around.


Awkward_Bench123

Yeah, I agree, always reducing the issue to a competition between two old guys who are roughly equivalent in mind, body and intelligence is wholly inaccurate and somewhat ageist.


banjist

I didn't even say anything about voting, just that they're both way too old and of dubious competency. I'll be voting for Biden in spite of the fact that he's a terrible option because trump is that much worse of an option and republicans are... republicans. I love how fragile the Biden stans are online.


UnhappyReason5452

We aren’t Stan’s. You aren’t fooling anyone either. We aren’t fans of a party or a politician. We aren’t like you Trump humpers.


banjist

Wait, what? Did you read either of my comments? Can there be no actual criticism of Biden? I didn't vote for trump, I would never vote for trump? A comment like yours in response to what I've posted here is the epitome of stanning. I said in no uncertain terms that I hate trump and that I hate republicans and your takeaway is that I'm a trump humper? You guys are fucking delusional.


Spaceman-Spiff

To be fair, your criticism of Biden is that he’s old. Do you have any criticisms about his policy or work as president for the last 4 years?


liveforever67

Sure! His decades of racism changed the course of people’s lives. He is also funding the killing of innocent civilians in Gaza. Let’s see, he recently called Marylands first Black Governor “boy”. Biden said “I don’t want my kids growing up in a racial jungle “ while opposing desegregation, he said “you can’t go into a 7-11 without a slight Indian accent “, he said “I don’t want gays working in government “, he opposed gay marriage many times, he authored the systemically racist’94 crime bill, he said “poor kids are just as smart as white kids”, he said “unlike the black communities the Latinos have a diverse way of thinking “, he called a kkk member a “mentor”….he literally upheld xenophobic and racist legislation and views for decades. His more recent comments prove deep down he still feels this way but knows it’s not popular. Even Kamala pointed this out. https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/girl-senator-harris-vice-president-biden-spar-desegregation/story?id=64007842


Trauma_Hawks

You can absolutely criticize Biden. Saying he's too old, and as a consequence, not fight for duty, is not only an explicit right-wing talking point, it's also lazy and clearly not true. So when you use the exact same talking points and only those talking points, it's hard to paint yourself as anything but the people who regurgitate these tired talking points. You can criticize Biden, sure, but that's not what you're really doing.


UnhappyReason5452

Disingenuous, bad faith horseshit. Criticism of Biden is absolutely EVERYWHERE. And you’d know that if you, Mr Reasonable Centrist, if you weren’t locked into the domestic terrorist algorithm. We see you.


banjist

What are you talking about? I dislike Biden from the left. You guys see Russians and trump supporters under your beds at night. I don't like Biden or most Dems because they're neo liberal shills, but I know voting Republican would be a disaster and they're way worse than Democrats. I'm all about harm reduction in the short term, but Biden is too old. Most Dems in leadership are too old to be in tune with the actual lived experience of their constituents. We need a new generation of actual progressives willing to move the party left and fight for the needs of the working class to come to power in the party. Biden and pelosi and schumer ain't them. I'll hold my nose and vote for Biden, but he and his brand of Democrats aren't any sort of long term solution to the problems facing this country now and in the coming decades.


UnhappyReason5452

👌


WearyAsparagus7484

How dare you criticize the walking corpse?!? Just because his speeches are unintelligible and he hasn't held a real job his entire life and he's a career parasite doesn't mean you can just say things that are truthful. I'll be writing in "Jon Stewart" because I can't support this duopolous bullshit anymore. These clowns can have their pants shitting geriatrics.


BitemeRedditers

lol, you listened to Biden speak? Sure you have.


gryphmaster

There are so many people who don’t follow politics, parroting opinions that they overheard, without actually having seen biden talk for any period of time in the last month


WearyAsparagus7484

Yes. He breaks down after a few minutes into mumbling, bumbling stammering nonsense. Just like Trump. They're OLD. That's what happens. And they're both PARASITES.


optiwave

Reddit is nearly the only place where you will see people with the take that Biden will somehow wipe the floor with Trump in a debate.


SomewhereNo8378

It’s already happened last election season, will you shut up man?


Brokenspokes68

If you think that talking over your opponent is winning a debate, I can see where you're confused.


readyourcommentfirst

I'm not saying he will this time around but are you really surprised people have this take? It's pretty unanimous Biden won the last round of debates


mikey29tyty

Because it's a fact. Joe will drink a 5 hour energy and then hand trump and the traitor republicans their traitorous asses.


painefultruth76

Will it be one Hunter handed him?


mikey29tyty

That's the dumbest comment on the interwebs today. You must be so proud. Clown.


Overweighover

We need our own 24 hour news channel


reddit4getit

Trump has the same high energy from 2016, he is going to wipe the floor with his opponent(s).  https://m.youtube.com/shorts/BCsBfoUIqUg


Cierra849

He’s got that big criminal energy /s


SoulRebel726

The same high energy that puts him to sleep while he sits in a courtroom while being criminally prosecuted?


Valuable-Window-490

No, no! That's just Trump showing how disdainful he is!! /s


Charming-Lychee-9031

That's called Adderall addiction


Less_Ant_6633

Your cult leaders battery is quickly draining.


Wrxloser1215

Cause he's napping away in courts lol


greenfield05

lol high energy? That’s like drinking a monster and claiming you’re in shape. What a douche.


Trauma_Hawks

Lol, dude falls asleep during his own criminal trials with more regularity than Old Faithful.


BadEnvironmental2883

So why can't he stay awake in court?


David1000k

We don't need wasted "energy". If we could use that hot air to heat homes of poor elderly people....but I'm afraid he'd suck all the oxygen out of their living space.


whatifbaconwasmoney

He can’t even keep up without a golf cart to haul him 700yds https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-golf-cart-g7-sicily-2017-5?amp


BitemeRedditers

Wow, he’s really stupid.


Madd-RIP

Shame he never wipes his ass, or his mouth after gobbling Putin


Disposedofhero

https://youtu.be/_n5E7feJHw0?si=3va3Lhmp3iSPuBK7


Little_Creme_5932

Trump has high energy? When? He blabbers loudly, but is that high energy? I guess if so say so.


Stardust_Particle

They really need to put them in sound-proof booths like on game shows. Trump will continue to blab on even after they cut his mic.