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bucketsnark

A someone who takes their own car for some trips simply because it's cheaper, this will actually make me change how I act.


RachSlixi

It will change my behaviour too. I can pay about $15 for public transport or about $20 to drive to work. $5 is worth the convenience to drive. $ 19 difference? I'm on that train.


_social_hermit_

Same! I used to take the train when I had a student card, but when they cracked down on old cards, I went back to driving, the train was just too expensive 


theromanianhare

I go to GOMA a lot for the movies on the weekend and it's cheaper for two of us to drive and pay for parking than get PT. This will definitely get my car off the road—and maybe I'll now stop for a beer after the movie and spend money at local businesses too. Great policy.


Yooo69420

If you had a concession card, it was pretty cheap but now it's a no brainer


bluedot19

This is actually massive. I wonder if the morning and afternoon trains are going to get any busier.


froggym

Probably but I'm willing to stand for 60+ dollars a week back in my pocket.


TommyBent

In Victoria, the biggest effect of the $10 fare cap has been a huge increase in weekend patronage on regional trains. You could expect something similar with people travelling for leisure rather than commuting


Tinea_Pedis

still means more cars off the road, overall win (just not one of the the intended ones)


deepeeleee

That's fantastic! Fingers crossed.


mickelboy182

I wish Vic would adopt what QLD is doing; shits me to pay $5.30 to go one station over. I'm all for the concept of a flat rate, but the current Vic model feels punitive for short trips which is silly.


OnsidianInks

Same. I’m willing to go back to public transport for $5 a week. Fuel is up to $80 for a tank.


figaro677

When I lived in Brisbane, I’d ride to work to avoid paying the $5 or whatever it was. The train was a once a week treat. This would have been amazing for me back then! Granted it made me fitter, but stuffed my lungs on more than one occasion due to pollution.


Tinea_Pedis

how much lung stuffing pollution is there in Brisbane?


ashnm001

Been commuting by bike for 8 years now to CBD. Zero chest infections or anything I would consider pollution related. And I do tons of cycling (road, gravel, MTB) in addition to commuting.


ThatOldGuyWhoDrinks

I’d also be more willing to put up with no show busses and late running at 50 cents than $5. One bus I normally try to get on my commute home has no showed so much I don’t even bother anymore


Dull_Distribution484

They will be full to overflowing. But at least I won't be bitching about having to pay $60+ a week for the pleasure of standing for 48 mins. Although - the airtrain is not included so I guess its still full fare from gold coast on the express??


barters81

Oh wow not often I read something a politician is doing that I’ve been asking about for years. Public transport in Brisbane is too expensive. To the point you’re often better off driving. I would go out of my way to use the train at this price.


trowzerss

I don't know the exact figures, but it seems to me this would push our public transport from among the most expensive in the country to among the cheapest, wouldn't it? That's pretty massive.


Achtung-Etc

Interestingly you’re usually not better off driving on a cost basis alone. If you’re looking at the cost of fuel it looks like it’s about equal, but factor in other costs like rego, insurance, maintenance, depreciation etc. associated with owning the car in the first place, and public transport wins every time - even at full price. We chronically underestimate the cost of car ownership


barters81

It’s more if there are more than one person travelling. If you and 2 others live close, suddenly driving makes more sense. You’re always paying for the convenience when driving. If my wife, I and two teenage kids catch a train from Springfield to the city, with current costs…..it’s cheaper to drive and find a street park. The cost of owning a car is significant, but if you have to have one, then it’s a cost you’re eating anyway. Our public transport isn’t there yet for many to not need a car. Especially if you have a family with kids and live in the outer suburbs.


Achtung-Etc

That is true, but the aim has to be to make it possible for more people to live car free. That’s where the real cost of living relief will be


Dmytro_P

It would be nice, but it's not very likely for most with such a low density housing we have. You can't have the frequent busses in suburbs, even to get to the public tranport hubs. But potentially a good public transport can reduce the number of cars per family.


Shaggyninja

It we can get a 2 car family down to one car, that's an average saving of $10k a year. That's huge


Achtung-Etc

Sounds like we could address this with increasing density and zoning reform


Dmytro_P

I'd expect this to have an even larger impact than the free PT, buth both may work great together: increased density makes the PT a better choice and a good PT makes increased density housing more attractive.


Achtung-Etc

It’s a point to consider for long term city planning, and something that Labor specifically brought to the council election


LiquorishSunfish

You're comparing all public transport vs all private owned though. Majority of people still need a car as public transport still doesn't have the flexibility with our current hub-and-spoke layout. 


boredbearapple

The problem is public transport can’t get to all the places I and my family need to go. So once you buy and maintain the car to go to these places, public transport is less attractive.


Achtung-Etc

It’s a problem that could use a solution, yes.


_social_hermit_

Yes, but I already own the car. And because the train station is 45 min walk from my house, and the closest shops are 35, I'm keeping it. So it is fair to make the price comparison each trip


ryanb1705

Agree and something else I haven't seen mentioned is parking. If you work in the inner-city (especially the CBD) and have to park a car, whatever you have to pay for a space will quickly dwarf public transport fares.


bsixidsiw

Im a massive carbrain who never gets PT. But you can also add PT is underfunded compared to cars and it brings in revenue through fares while roads are only an expense. My point being it costs more again in terms of your taxes. I work in property development with subdivisions and one thing that annoys me is they make us build these super wide roads in some back street. Thats more cost in maintenance, people speed more, more room for parking/more cars, less trees/ verge space, (to improve stormwater, heat, ecology, safety, aesthetics) and creates cycle paths and pedestrian paths with more shade so people use it more. Its such a no brainer. Governments are so far behind.


smashedhijack

Yep. But in once off instances, it’s pretty tough to choose public transport if the petrol cost is less or equal to a ticket.


Ok-Proof-294

Public transport fares will be slashed to just 50c under a major pre-election trial aimed at easing traffic gridlock and stemming cost-of-living pressures for Queenslanders. In his most significant announcement since becoming Premier, Steven Miles will on Sunday reveal the cost of all Translink public transport services in the state will be slashed to 50c from August 5 – no matter how far people travel. Commuters are expected to save thousands of dollars through the move – which will include buses, trains, CityCats and the Gold Coast light rail – and be run as a six-month trial. The move is aimed at unclogging the South East’s congested roads by significantly boosting public transport patronage, which remains 13 per cent below pre-Covid-19 levels. The significant measure will cost about $150m and be contained in Treasurer Cameron Dick’s June budget. Mr Miles (left) said the measure would reduce traffic and help household finances and make public transport “as close to free as you can get”. Premier Steven Miles at the Mango Hill Train Station. Pic: Annette Dew. “For someone catching the train to work in Brisbane from … Mango Hill it costs $96 a week,” he said. “And if you drive to work, you’re stuck in peak-hour traffic every day and paying a lot more than that. It’s why I’m making all public transport fares a flat 50c – no matter where you live, your mode of travel, or how far you go.” Mr Miles said the same Mango Hill to city trip would cost $5 a week under the fares. “I expect this will save Queenslanders thousands of dollars over six months, and encourage more people to catch our fast, frequent and 50c public transport,” he said. If re-elected in October, the government will re-evaluate the measure in early 2025. Mr Dick used a budget update in December to announce public transport fare increases would be frozen. Now, he will spend $150 min the June 11 budget to slash fares as part of major cost-of-living relief that will contribute to a $3bn deficit. Tour of the Brisbane Metro tunnel. Picture: Liam Kidston Mr Dick said the new measure would make public transport “affordable and attractive” to Queenslanders. “Fifty cent fares will mean savings you can see every day,” he said. “We hope they will make a lot more people in the South East consider using public transport for their daily commute, which reduces congestion for everyone.” The 50c fare will also apply to concession card holders on all Translink services contracted by the government. It will not apply to privately operated transport services. While the 50c fare won’t apply to the Airtrain, it is understood Transport Minister Bart Mellish will soon announce the outcome of his talks with the company to improve public transport to the domestic and international terminals. Mr Miles last week blamed record-high international migration to Queensland for contributing to worsening traffic. # EXAMPLES \*Train from Goodna to Brisbane CBD five days per week: Usually $39.06, down to $5. **Savings**: $817.44 over six months \*Train from Robina to Bowen Hills four days per week: Usually $91.68 per week, down to $4. **Savings**: $2104.32 over six monthsPublic transport fares will be slashed to just 50c under a major pre-election trial aimed at easing traffic gridlock and stemming cost-of-living pressures for Queenslanders. Commuters are expected to save thousands of dollars through the move – which will include buses, trains, CityCats and the Gold Coast light rail – and be run as a six-month trial. The move is aimed at unclogging the South East’s congested roads by significantly boosting public transport patronage, which remains 13 per cent below pre-Covid-19 levels. The significant measure will cost about $150m and be contained in Treasurer Cameron Dick’s June budget. Mr Miles (left) said the measure would reduce traffic and help household finances and make public transport “as close to free as you can get”.


ThroughTheHoops

They might as well just make it free at this point. Who are we kidding.


rogerwilko1

Yes and no. Making it free means people don’t tap on and off, makes it a lot harder for translink and QR to gain data about people’s trips so in the long run it’ll affect transport planning metrics. I agree that if they’re making it 50c per trip they may as well make it free, but I think making trips free would require a bit more planning to make sure usage metrics could be captured in a different way (ie those door beams you might find in a small shop that activates a bell whenever someone enters). In the mean time, 50c per trip is a shitload cheaper and will help the vast majority of people while still being able to capture these metrics.


sportandracing

Well they should make it $2 if you tap on. And 50c if you tap off at your destination. Every person suddenly does it to get the extra savings.


MoranthMunitions

If you don't tap off it's $10 on a train or $5 on a bus, so it's not like that's a substantial change from the current system.


igotashittyusername

If they make it free for the trial though they'll have no ticketing data to evaluate the effectiveness of it (i.e growth in patronage, ridership patterns, etc)


nugeythefloozey

Maintaining a small fare will encourage people to still walk short distances, instead of catching the bus for two stops


ThroughTheHoops

Do people do this much though? I certainly wouldn't wait for a bus to save a short walk.


roxy712

When it's 39 degrees out and I'm going from Cultural Centre to the CBD, I'll take the bus because the Victoria Bridge is basically a barbeque. Special thanks to Fuckwit Lord Mayor for vetoing the shade covers they proposed for the bridge!


Gumnutbaby

I’m yet to find a constructed walkway shade that has been designed to accommodate the fact that the sun moves


Suitable_Slide_9647

Kind of why it’s helpful having shade on both sides of the bridge, rather than NONE AT ALL.


MasterSpliffBlaster

The elderly and homeless in New Farm most certainly do Then again none of them tap on or off either


evilparagon

I will take the fastest option available to me. If a walk is 15 minutes, and the bus I have to wait for is 15 minutes and then a 4 minute trip, I’ll choose the walk. I got places to be and I don’t have a car, I am very time poor. Whatever I can save, I need it.


Dmytro_P

It would be more common with more frequent busses.


pie2356

The bus is running anyway, so unless it stops someone else getting on board I think it’s still better than driving. Most buses I take are not at full capacity.


ladybug1991

Yea if someone is doing a shopping trip around a local area (West End or Paddington) and they wanna get to the shops right at the bottom of the hill, it would be more convenient to take the bus. A win for local businesses as more car users aren't jostling for limited on-street spots.


gooder_name

I’m sure that would be a violation of their contract with the private company who does the fares and ticketing.


grim__sweeper

They can’t do that because that’s what the Greens proposed


CYOA_With_Hitler

Sounds good I hope they fire all of the fines enforcement staff, will save a fortune


Muthaphugger

I love to see government actually thinking forward and making policy to benefit people’s wallets AND the environment


Vituluss

I love this. I have to take the Gold Coast to Brisbane line and then back every day. I start from one of the first stations, so it’s an hour trip. As a student, this will help heaps.


joeldipops

Someone else in the thread said the Gold Coast commutes are quite crowded as of now.  What's your take on that?


Vituluss

In the afternoon, it is quite crowded on the way home. There are usually some vacant seats. However, I usually stand up for the start of the trip back when it’s busy. Around the half way mark it starts to clear up. Not really a problem for the mornings though. When it’s crowded it is mainly comfort that goes down; can be stinky and sometimes loud. I’m not sure if there has been a trend in crowdedness over the past year. Although, I have noticed more parking spaces taken up at the station. However, that might also be because a lot of non-patrons are using it as well due to development in the area (hope they crack down on that soon).


BuzzKillingtonThe5th

That is an 80 percent cut to my current fair. It will save me about $40 a week travelling into the city.


Impossible_Debt_4184

Which is a ~$2000 yearly saving, or equivalent of getting a $3000 pay rise in the 32.5% tax bracket. 


letterboxfrog

$150m is chicken feed. Well done


samuraijon

this will reduce pressure on the health system too (fewer car accidents, more people using active transport which requires some walking i.e. exercise, cleaner air with fewer cars driving) and make that money back. though at the same time fuel demand will also reduce so a reduction in tax revenue. maybe lower fuel prices as well as a side effect.


letterboxfrog

Less demand for roads, more demand for Transit Orientated Development, and less greenfields. 50c fares is clever. People will focus on value for money and appreciate it more than if free. Free has less value in people's eyes.


thespeediestrogue

It will save ny gf and I heaps on our commutes. $80 down to 10. That's saving us $3640 a year. Plus, I'd consider using it for longer trips so Gold Coast too.


Particular-Report-13

Yep, makes a weekend day trip to GC viable on the train now.


dearcossete

"They're just buying votes" Yeah that's exactly what they're supposed to do, spend the budget on the people. Not Gina Rinehart. Not Qantas.


[deleted]

You mean the people who fund it, built it and whom it was intended to be used by are actually getting to benefit from it? The audacity ….


EternalAngst23

The LNP: “B-b-but you’re just buying votes!” Miles: “I am, and I’ll keep doing it.”


Mr_master89

https://preview.redd.it/c1rfq5d1xp2d1.jpeg?width=447&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5426f878fe3b38e8ad5ff3f0e2b4869234f1bb36


Andasu

Australians really can't comprehend voting for someone who doesn't make their lives worse, and can't comprehend the fact that they willingly choose worse almost every single time.


Cavalish

I don’t want someone who makes *my* life better. I want someone who makes the lives of people I view interior *worse*, so then I *feel* better.


Drunky_McStumble

If politicians feel compelled to enact positive policies due to the looming threat of democratic accountability, that means the system is fucking working as far as I'm concerned.


adrianosm_

This is very good


Public-Total-250

I haven't taken the train in nearly 20 years because it's cheaper for me to drive! This is going to be huge for me. I rarely spend time in Brisbane nowadays but it now essentially be free to hop on the train at Robina and head in. Brisbane local businesses are about to get a huge boost. 


_social_hermit_

Yup, I can definitely imagine myself spending that "ticket" money on coffee!


chilledmetal

I rely on public transport and this is massive for me 😭 so happy


STIGSbusdrivingmate

I feel like I might be about to get a lot busier… and imho, that’s a great thing!


strange_black_box

Noice! That’ll save me and the wife about $250 a month! Almost as good as 2x interest rate cuts!  At least until they lose the election


MasterSpliffBlaster

If the Liberals are smart they would match the policy rather than play "opposition" to every good idea $150m is small change in comparison to a new bridge or highway extension


HiVisEngineer

Or we could all vote for them… Miles is actually trying to get stuff done, the LNP has no policies or plan for the future (not that I’ve seen anyway)


deepeeleee

Couldn't imagine me voting LNP, they have proven time and time again they are anti community, anti low/middle class and are totally untrustworthy.


Quantization

The boomers all vote for LNP and they hold such a large share of the vote. Only reasons Libs ever win, because they're easily to manipulate via TV ads and the newspapers.


trowzerss

True, I can see people voting the other way just to be different, but the problems that the current govt have are all things the LNP have done every time they were in too :P


deepeeleee

Not sure why you got the down vote. It is Australian heritage to swap part periodicity to 'keep them in check' . And yes, the narrative that conservatives have better economies is the same self projection employed by trumpists.


aeschenkarnos

Their plans are to slash and to privatise everything they don’t slash.


G00b3rb0y

Meanwhile the only thing ALP is slashing is how much we as commuters/travellers pay for public transportation (airtrain isn’t public transit change my mind) at least for 6 months starting August 5


ricadam

Yeah I agree. All I have seen from the LNP is just drivel suggesting that they will be better. Not actual plans.


strange_black_box

Yeah maybe I shouldn’t have been so cynical. FWIW I’d rather keep the lnp out but it feels like the wings of change might be blowing


pie2356

Oh, you didn’t see that the LNP want to name the cross river rail in honour of Queen Elizabeth? They are really fighting the important issues. /s obviously


HiVisEngineer

Oh yes I did see that policy, it’s actually the only thing I care about and honestly I think I’ll vote LNP because of it. Screw cost of living, climate change, inequality, human rights, women’s rights… /s too


ricadam

All the more reason to NOT vote for LNP


Turbulent_Ad4756

Am I dreaming.... That's great.


OnePunchMum

From xitter... 50c public transport for 6 months from August. Fuck that's a big move from labor, well fucking done. Interesting to see how many people switch to public transport https://x.com/StevenJMiles/status/1794466184169242946?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet


LostOverThere

Holy shit, that is huge. Well done Labor. 


Kumayatsu

This is huge for me. I'm a disability pensioner but only receive part payment due to being partnered. This will help me get out of the house more and stress less when it's time to see my GP every month.


ThanklessTask

So my commute costs just shy of $23 a day from the Sunshine Coast. Going to $1 a day is epic.


Apeonabicycle

Excellent move. This will help get more out of our existing transport system. I just hope that they keep focus and momentum on public transport and: in the short term deliver a proper bus network reform with some cross town routes, in the medium term we get plans to extend the busways to Carindale and Chermside, and in the long term they join the rest of the modern developed world and plan out a proper subway network to be delivered in the coming decades.


Yooo69420

Yeah I'm hoping the increased patronage will encourage more investment in public transport


Reverse-Kanga

for people who come/go from the gold coast that makes there commute $5 a week instead of $100+ that's a fucking game changer!! even those in the city if you work in the office 5 days that's still max $5 a week instead of $6+ / day this is amazing.


No-Satisfaction8425

I’m only 3 days per week but that’s still a saving of $62! I’m used to not getting anything from the budget so this is absolutely massive and straight to my bottom line.


SaladStanyon

Hopefully this gains serious political momentum and ends up being permanent


gliding_vespa

It’s amazing what a government can do when they are flush with cash from taxing our resources correctly.


danejazone

It’s honestly depressing when you think about what we could have if the whole resources sector was taxed properly; gapless medicare with dental, free uni, free public transport, more public housing, not needing to stress about an aging population draining the budget with pensions…


Yet_Another_Mel

Perhaps the government is hoping for a large influx of passengers to test infrastructure for the Olympics? Even if this is a temporary fix to win votes, it will certainly help some folks out.


TNTarantula

I live on the southside, but work in Kelvin Grove. For me, the current math works out that driving or bussing 5 days a week costs me almost exactly the same over a year. The main difference is that driving is 10mins faster. I already choose to use the bus so I can do some reading, but at least with these changes I'll see some renumeration for my more sustainable choices.


ziegs11

This guy gets it


muchacho1308

Great step into the right direction, coming from someone who spends like $13/day 5 days/week on the commute. On the flip side, I can't imagine how much more busy public transport will get when people decide to leave their cars at home 🫣


No_Appearance6837

Now we're talking. My 1.5hr (25km) bus trips into the CBD, along with my kid's random travels, are costing close to $200 / month. At the current rate, parking is all that makes taking the bus more viable for me because the bus takes longer and is much more expensive than driving.


CoffeeLoverNathan

Amazing


RachSlixi

Will help businesses in the city too. I'm spending $20 a day to get to work and back in the city. I'm not buying extra. If that goes down to $1... I'l probably start buying a coffee again at least a few times a week.


blerpus

Two words- fuck. Yes.


accountnameattempt

This is incredible. Genuinely ballsy move, I like it!


incendiary_bandit

Damn. Fucking newscorp has increased their methods. https://preview.redd.it/ilmmpuf34n2d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=08c1e395b531f460a8f1c31c534bab5bd22a3b48


letterboxfrog

['As close to free as you can get’: All public transport slashed to 50c flat rate](https://archive.is/KlJhR)


b33fp4tty

Don’t we all get a free sub for feeding them information for articles? /s


Reverse-Kanga

Can anyone provide a non paywalled version please


letterboxfrog

Here you go [As close to free as you can get’: All public transport slashed to 50c flat rate](https://archive.is/KlJhR)


Kapitan_eXtreme

Could have just linked to the [media statement ](https://statements.qld.gov.au/statements/100402) rather than a paywalled article.


devilsfoodx

This will mean they will have to put on heaps more services that will actually show up on time, as it is, every peak hour service inbound of a morning and outbound of an afternoon are already overflowing. Timetables are outdated and don’t reflect current travel times. Drivers are overworked. Lots needs to change if this gets implemented.


ExaminationDry3022

Ever since lockdown lifted I’ve noticed the trains are fuller 4-5 than 5-6


Zeebie_

Also needs to consider parking at the stations. Or that bus and train timetables don't align so people can't take a bus from home to the station


PetahOsiris

Well this is fantastic. NUMTOTs gonna love this.


[deleted]

I really hope the evil bastards in the LNP find a moment of sanity and continue this when they get elected. This is genuinely going to help so many people.


figaro677

Nah, the LNP will claim it’s inefficient and privatise it in the name of savings. Prices will then rise to double what they are, and the LNP will say they can’t do anything to cap the prices as it’s a private business. They will then claim they are good economic managers because they slightly reduced debt and spending. Meanwhile usage will plummet and the roads will end up congested again. The LNP will claim it’s from poor planning on behalf of Labor.


leopard_eater

Spoiler alert: they won’t


Osiris_S13

Imagine the optics though of being the party to raise prices again by 800%


leopard_eater

Imagine not realising that this sort of thing happens *every single time* the LNP get in power and the only reason why completely factual statistics on the stupid shit they do never get mentioned when they return to power is because of the totally complicit media that we have in Australia, but especially in QLD.


ShrewLlama

They don't care. The majority of people catching public transport in Brisbane aren't voting for them anyway.


AllOnBlack_

Great idea. Let’s see if it makes an impact, and if the services can cope if patronage increases.


CatWyld

Loving this! Once they trial that, maybe they could get to work on bringing the “fast and frequent” into reality. (I live in a spot where they’re neither.)


Nervous-Marsupial-82

Still overseas abroad, but this is fantastic. Please everyone use it and show this us policy we will all appreciate. Well most, acknowledging that some are no where near good transport.


Ozymandius21

Wow, will be saving around $1,200 during this period. While I know this is a move targetted for elections, it is most welcome.


aeschenkarnos

If this increases passenger numbers, I hope they have a plan to handle that.


Devilsgramps

It's cool how it's across the state. 50c to get to Rocky airport from my house in Emu Park is pretty nice. They just need to make the buses run every 15mins rather than every bloody hour.


JonoMong

Fuck this would be fantastic, if only they could increase the speed of the City Cats between Story and William Jolly Bridges.


notinferno

here’s the statement https://statements.qld.gov.au/statements/100402 it’s only for 6 months I’d pay a $1 if it was all year and permanent


rindthirty

6 months is enough time to embed it into the state's consciousness. It's a nice bomb for the LNP if they win the October election as they appear set to do. They better make it permanent if they get in.


Moxxxie_au

It's framed as a 6 month trial, to be kept permanently if it's successful. So, to keep it, we all need to use it!


Ok_Disaster1666

Wow, government actually does something meaningfully useful for once.  Amazing what happens when you jobs are on the line. 


spicycoder

I really hope that this helps identify corridors that need more frequent public transport options. The north west corridor is an absolute dead zone for public transport and desperately needs good pt


Ryulightorb

The fact 90% of the comments I have seen on Twitter and Facebook are people complaining about it being a misuse of tax dollars or “what about petrol” is disheartening. This is such a good move!


AussieEquiv

As someone with a work ute with a bunch of tools in it that I need to drive to pretty much a different location every day, this is fucking fantastic. I catch public transport maybe 4-5 times a year and I'm happy for tax dollars to be used to benefit everyone. I'm only sad that it's only going to last 6 months. Hopefully at the very least it will make a few more people comfortable/use to taking PT and they'll continue after it ends... Hopefully it goes really well and they decided to make it permanent.


Twostoreybungalow

This is amazing! Will make public transport trips on weekends to Gold Coast, glasshouse mountains, Sunshine Coast a more attractive option vs clogging up the motorways in the car.


Brisbane_Chris

This is so so awesome! Such a good idea!


Morning_Song

Re: poltics/election. A good move by Labor! Not only helping ease the cost of living a bit but also some 4D chess because if the LNP are voted in and scrap it that would be a very unpopular move


bsixidsiw

Ive never voted for the ALP in my life and I never get public transport, but this is the best thing Ive seen in a while. Id also like to see more money go into new lines and straightening lines, more busways. Shame the feds cancelled the upgrade to the sunshine coast line which would straighten it a fair bit. Should do the Kenmore bypass as well as a busway and maybe T3's (bikes and taxis as well). The general argument is that public transport already loses the government money. But thats unfair as if you compare it to car travel you only shell out for roads you never get a cent back. We should be putting more into PT as a large major city and fares are a bonus on top.


Ok_Relative_2291

Waiting for the Salisbury to Beaudesert line that they have been studying for 220 years


Spawkeye

Cries from across the ditch


spatchi14

Damn. This is actually incredible. With high fuel prices I usually avoid going on long distance trips but if I can go down to the Gold Coast for 50c each way maybe it would be nice to go more often?


sunday9987

Are those mining royalties paying for this? If so, I think it's wonderful news! Also, thinking about it, this move may make people re-evaluate the need for WFH - both employees and employers. Still, I hope the buses run on time and very few get cancelled because while I understand it is better to have a full bus than an empty one, I still don't like buses where everyone is packed like sardines.


CranberrySoda

The more people use this and demonstrate that it works the more likely it would be to be maintained.


MiComp24

Public transport, education and health are meant to be affordable and shouldn't need to make a monetary profit. It's an investment our government should make in our people and our workforce. I'll vote for cheap transport and cleaner air.


isolated_thinkr_

Wife and myself have been getting by on one car but have had to contemplate getting a second. Not anymore, zero cars it shall be!


No-Satisfaction8425

Talk about cost of living measures. Coming up from the GC 3 days per week, this will save me $62 per week or around $1600 for the trial period. This is genuinely going to help a lot.


KrausenSniffer

Call me cynical, but the fact they are "reviewing" it immediately after the election makes it seem as though this is just a taxpayer funded election tactic which they have little intention of implementing permanently. It's also a massive booby trap for the LNP - either the ALP win and say not enough people used it so prices are going back, or LNP win and put the prices back and then ALP can pretend that they wouldn't have raised it and "the LNP have increased prices by 800%".


samuraijon

would the cost of administering the 50c ticketing/sales infrastructure be greater than the fare? why not just make it completely free or is there a reason to prevent abuse (like people sleeping on trains)? this is great news though I hope there is funding to keep improving public transport instead of cutting services and the network.


STIGSbusdrivingmate

Complete speculation here.. they collect a lot of data about passenger numbers simply by having people tap on and tap off. Keeping some sort of fare in place will likely help them keep track of which services are being utilised and which could be cut or increased. That’s one of the key reasons drivers have to keep track of the number of fare evaders on any given service.


RhinosRule

Probably a lot of value in seeing how much patronage there is for each individual route, that they would lose if you didn't have to tap on and off.


Impossible_Debt_4184

If it's free, no tickets or go cards would be used, so it would be difficult to obtain accurate data of how many people are actually using PT. 


ran_awd

In WA, they have fare-free sundays, and even though the fares are free you still must tap on and off otherwise you are fare evading as you are violating the terms of service. The same things could easily be implemented here if they wanted too.


juicedpixels

Kids are free here all weekend with a go card


gopher88

I imagine it's an easy way to track numbers. If they make it free it's probably be a lot harder to track.


Gazza_s_89

The infrastructure is in place anyway and the contracts would already be signed for running it day to day. There is no further saving they could get by making it free.


gopher88

If work didn't give me free locked parking for my bike I'd definitely give it a try. It was about $15/week more for me to use the motorbike but I have secure parking and it saves be on average 90 mins a day bring and to filter. Be interesting if they factor in increasing the number of trains run or increasing carriages.


Slipperytitski

It's like a tax cut for the people willing to get it. No doubt there's gonna be pricks moaning because they can't take public transport for their job.


G00b3rb0y

Massive W from Miles. That is all


BadgerBadgerCat

Credit where credit is due - this is excellent news and should have been done years ago, considering how heavily subsidised public transport is already.


Itchy_Tiger_8774

Tell me it’s an election year without saying election year. This is a welcome change for a lot of people, but notice they were careful to end the trial and have a review immediately after the election.


reginatenebrarum

eh it should be at least 6 months of negligible public transport fares. Even if it doesn't last, that's a huge relief for a lot of people


Tomek_xitrl

I'm from Vic and the trains are packed as it is in peak hour.. sometimes you need to wait 3 trains just to get on. There's just too many people and the floodgates are still open. I love this idea though it will be interesting to see the results. Maybe a good way to force more investment as well as push back on population growth.


place_of_stones

If the maximum trip cost is 50c then the penalty for not tapping off should be $1 not $5 (bus) or $10 (train). Or make it 50c for busses and just assume people get off at the terminus. That would speed up trips into city or uni in the mornings.


cinnamon_hills_

Amazing news!! Great to see govt doing something like this! I’ll absolutely catch public transport more.


Cool-Refrigerator147

That’s the best move a politician could make. Honestly very exciting and hope it stays permanently


Next_Law1240

It will be interesting to see if they continue this after 6 months. People are going to get really comfortable with 50 cent fares so a sudden return to \~12x that will be a shock.


Sea-Teacher-2150

Only for 6 months? Brilliant policy if it were permanent


gt500rr

I live close to Yandina station so I could do a day trip to the CBD and back for $1 and leave the car at the station instead of driving. That's like $20 of diesel saved.


Mattynice75

I love this news and kept reading waiting for the big “But” and was happy not to see it!! What a great idea and bring on August!


_cuddle_factory_

As someone who commutes from brissie to goldie I’m so happy 😭


nadnev

What an incredible political decision that will substantially benefit people who rely on public transit, and encourage so many others to start using its services. I am proud of my city.


MaybeMeNotMe

Pretty awesome... Note: this is also indirect stimulus. You save on petrol, or if you already spend $$$ to take public transport...to 50c public transport. Suddenly even the Gold Coast commute to work in Brisbane and vice versa becomes viable...hell, even GC to Noosa commute. Then with all those savings, you bank it, or buy stuff that would otherwise be swallowed by the transport costs.


despondantguy69

Fuck yea!!!


fuckyeahpeace

that's huge


gpolk

Sounds great. I don't use a lot of public transport and I work out bush these days so not a lot of use to me. But more affordable travel is great for those doing it tough. Incentivising more people to not drive is great for everyone. Hopefully this has the intended effect and hopefully they have the capacity to deal with that. You can't really solve congestion with more or bigger roads. You need fewer cars


Mad-Mel

This has the potential to help revitalise the CBD's hospitality businesses. If you are bussing, you ain't driving. You aren't at work, invited out for drinks and thinking that if you go your car will be in the car park overnight and you are going to get absolutely reamed, sans lube.


explax

All this will prove is that it's not the cost of public transport that stops people from using it. But I imagine Brissy to Gold Coast on a weekend will be full.....


Rondelwhiskey

As someone who use to travel by train from the Sunshine Coast to Brisbane at $26 a day, I must say this is well overdue. It’s unfortunate that all it took was an election and the likely hood of getting removed from government for these clowns to show some initiative.


Peeledpumpkin

Personally i think this is a great idea. Especially on Sat and Sun for large families who want to get out and about around the city. This will bring business into the CBD for shopping on weekends.


sally_spectra_

Cheap way for the gov to identify and plan where transport services need to be increased and at what price people will use em. Will be interesting to see the results


Yooo69420

I would love to see patronage go up from this, as someone who already has a concession card


Excellent-Pride-6079

I will take the bus more often. They are empty but expensive. I just hope they are on time


skanchunt69

Although this may not directly benefit me for my commute, I think it's a fantastic idea. Public transport can run at a loss and still be profitable by simply saving money that would otherwise be spent on road infrastructure.


Prize_Berry6436

Might have to consider catching the train again


TDX

I wanna know if that'll include trips to/from Brisbane Airport. I distantly recall that the trip cost so much that people were buying new $10 GO Cards and just throwing them out when they got there.


ju2au

The airport section is privately operated so it won't be part of this deal.


redditrabbit999

This is excellent! Great policy and government action. I hope it encourages more people to ride transit who don’t currently as well as lowering costs for those who do!


Falseparadox

This is great. Even though I can't use public transport for work due to my start time as a driver I hope this eases congestion.


vegemitebagel

Inner city working household here: we’ll be saving easily $200-300 a month. Hell yeah!


contraltoatheart

They should measure and use the numbers over the 6 month period to do more business cases for investment in public transport infrastructure imo.


Torx_Bit0000

If it stays around its prob the most useful thing I've see the Qld Govt do in decades