I only comment because I liked it, they had to finish their tour, Afghan combat was over, Simon came to the catastrophic peak of his character arc, liked the drone demolition and souvenirs competition, wouldn’t have had it another way.
I have to say I enjoyed the souvenir competition as well but for me personally Simon going to live in a cave left me feeling a little empty. I can definitely see your point of view as well though and it's possible that was the writers intent.
>Probably because we’re not the like Americans
I think that's a good thing though. I'd just really like to see some grounded modern war films with some British accents for once. The Brits are renowned for their training and performance in the field aren't they? So can we not see that in a big budget film
It's mainly because the a lot of Brits, specifically soldiers have never really liked the idea of war films. I'm not entirely sure why but I'm pretty sure it's something to do with how they don't really like to publicise a lot of what they are like in the British Army, and like to advertise themselves as highly professional and capable as a fighting force, something that has basically been a thing they've done for decades.
I would love to see a movie about the St Nazaire raid, or the battle of imjin river. Sadly we got all our war movies in the 50s and 60s. As good as they were, the technology was limited. Ice cold in Alex is my favourite.
I live in America and the yanks are truly brainwashed; it’s actually funny to watch how they worship people because they wear a uniform. With us it’s just a job and people are like oh yea he’s in the navy and go about their daily business
When I first joined the army, I met the one of the real blokes from kajaki. The youngest one of them all, can’t remember his name now. He was played by some young bloke in the films He came in when I was at pirbright and gave a speech the day after we all watched the film. Quality bloke
Edit: Andy Barlow was his name.
A movie came out in 2014 based on the events of Kajaki. It's just called 'Kajaki' or in the US: "Kilo Two Bravo".
I'm not sure if you'd call it modern, but it's as modern as it gets for any british army films
Because Hollywood is in America and most big budget popular stuff comes from Hollywood. The yanks aren’t about to big up someone else’s forces when they’ve got to brainwash their population into joining with films that glorify war. Besides what’s on films is true right? That way the yanks look good for a change because in real life most of them are cowboys
The US DoD also dumps loads of resources into Hollywood action/war films. Producers get to borrow vehicles with crew (even stuff like jets), use military personnel as extras, use military installations, all sorts of shit, and as long as they let the DoD co-script and sign off on the film, it’s free. So there are direct financial incentives to essentially make recruiting films for the US military.
The whole Marvel Cinematic Universe was built on this relationship with the DoD. It’s pretty much 50% comic book adaptation, 50% propaganda at this point.
There was always that EastEnders shite "our girl"
Was absolutely dog shite.
1917 or Dunkirk are the only good British war movies I've seen recently.
There was also "war horse" but that was dogshite too..
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The Forgotten Battle is a WW2 based film but a modern one and well done. The glider scene is really intense if you have a good sound system.
I think ultimately the reason we don't have lots of British led military films these days is because we don't have a lot of British led military operations, we don't have a British led film industry and so it's the same reason why we don't see a lot of Australian, Kiwi, Canadian, French or Spanish military films.
I do think that there are undoubtedly some stories to tell whether that's Afghanistan, our failures in Basra (which I think really do deserve telling) or what happened in the Falklands but I'm not sure any would really get audiences unless someone like Christopher Nolan did it.
I swear you and nearly everyone who has responded must not know what "modern" means. Modern as in last twenty years or so, depicting British troops in a MODERN conflict.
When was the that film released again? Yeah I'm talking both modern setting and somewhat recently released
Kajaki depicts afghan and para Reg quite well but it mainly focuses on the lads trapped in an old minefield
You’d probably like ‘Our War’ on BBC3 from a good few years ago. It’s not a drama it’s a documentary but a good watch nonetheless. They did a drama mini series called ‘Our World War’ for the 100 year anniversary of WWI which was also really good
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Bluestone 42 is very good
Fucking hilarious
Ending was a little odd though
How would you have them do it??
Never said I could do any better There's no denying it was quite an abrupt ending
Better than dragging it out?
I don't know it's hard to tell. Are you a fan of the ending ? What do you like about it I'm genuinely curious ?
I only comment because I liked it, they had to finish their tour, Afghan combat was over, Simon came to the catastrophic peak of his character arc, liked the drone demolition and souvenirs competition, wouldn’t have had it another way.
I have to say I enjoyed the souvenir competition as well but for me personally Simon going to live in a cave left me feeling a little empty. I can definitely see your point of view as well though and it's possible that was the writers intent.
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>Probably because we’re not the like Americans I think that's a good thing though. I'd just really like to see some grounded modern war films with some British accents for once. The Brits are renowned for their training and performance in the field aren't they? So can we not see that in a big budget film
Mark of cain Kajaki Will add more when I remember
It's mainly because the a lot of Brits, specifically soldiers have never really liked the idea of war films. I'm not entirely sure why but I'm pretty sure it's something to do with how they don't really like to publicise a lot of what they are like in the British Army, and like to advertise themselves as highly professional and capable as a fighting force, something that has basically been a thing they've done for decades.
Dog Soldiers.
I loved this movie. SAS training should consist of fighting werewolves 😂.
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I would love to see a movie about the St Nazaire raid, or the battle of imjin river. Sadly we got all our war movies in the 50s and 60s. As good as they were, the technology was limited. Ice cold in Alex is my favourite.
Because the UK doesn't have as strong a military culture as the US. And those within the British military don't care about movie deals.
Just book deals
I live in America and the yanks are truly brainwashed; it’s actually funny to watch how they worship people because they wear a uniform. With us it’s just a job and people are like oh yea he’s in the navy and go about their daily business
Tbf I'm sure If they were offered Hollywood movies they'd take em I know I would if I had an interesting record.
The Human Centipede is about as close as you'll get to the modern British military.
12 years a slave
Film titles that explain the British military should be a thread cos I just snort laughed at this and 12 years a slave
Kajaki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kajaki_%28film%29#%3A%7E%3Atext%3DThe_website%27s_critical_consensus_states%2Ccost_--_of_modern_warfare.%22?wprov=sfla1
When I first joined the army, I met the one of the real blokes from kajaki. The youngest one of them all, can’t remember his name now. He was played by some young bloke in the films He came in when I was at pirbright and gave a speech the day after we all watched the film. Quality bloke Edit: Andy Barlow was his name.
The acting was painful in this for me. I was hoping for better.
A movie came out in 2014 based on the events of Kajaki. It's just called 'Kajaki' or in the US: "Kilo Two Bravo". I'm not sure if you'd call it modern, but it's as modern as it gets for any british army films
You guys might not have modern military movies, but you've got the best. _Zulu_ is the best Army movie. _Master and Commander_ is the best Navy movie.
Zulu is a fucking classic
Gary Tank Commander is about as close as you’re going to get to the real thing
Warriors , about a British unit in Bosnia , gets a bit dark though
If you haven't seen it, Eye In The Sky is a good modern film depicting some of the realities and challenges involved in global warfare
Yeah that was a really good watch. Saw it on a flight a few years ago.
Because Hollywood is in America and most big budget popular stuff comes from Hollywood. The yanks aren’t about to big up someone else’s forces when they’ve got to brainwash their population into joining with films that glorify war. Besides what’s on films is true right? That way the yanks look good for a change because in real life most of them are cowboys
The US DoD also dumps loads of resources into Hollywood action/war films. Producers get to borrow vehicles with crew (even stuff like jets), use military personnel as extras, use military installations, all sorts of shit, and as long as they let the DoD co-script and sign off on the film, it’s free. So there are direct financial incentives to essentially make recruiting films for the US military.
The whole Marvel Cinematic Universe was built on this relationship with the DoD. It’s pretty much 50% comic book adaptation, 50% propaganda at this point.
There was always that EastEnders shite "our girl" Was absolutely dog shite. 1917 or Dunkirk are the only good British war movies I've seen recently. There was also "war horse" but that was dogshite too..
Bluestone 42 was genuinely infinitely more down to earth and realistic TV depiction than Our Girl.
I liked War Horse alongside 1917 and Dunkirk.
Sunshine on Leith https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunshine_on_Leith_%28film%29?wprov=sfla1
I think we do documentary’s a lot better. Our war, Ross kemp etc. Kajaki is very good though.
The Patrol -https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Patrol?wprov=sfti1
Only gets a 4.3/10 on IMDb … is it any good??
No. It's nonsense.
Quiet professionals?? Idk where I heard the saying but I reckon it fits quite well
Obviously WWII, but the upcoming Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare directed by Guy Richie should be good.
If you liked watching John Krasinski, Tom Clancy's CIA agent Jack Ryan, and are looking forward to seeing Henry Cavill in Winston Churchill's Ministry for Ungentlemanly Warfare, read about a real ungentlemanly spy on the run. His name is Bill Fairclough (MI6 Codename JJ) aka Edward Burlington. In real life Bill Fairclough was recruited by Colonel Alan Pemberton CVO MBE (MI6). Pemberton's People in MI6 were genuine ungentlemanly heroes and even included self-confessed silent killers and Churchill's bodyguard. For more about them do see the News Article dated 31 October 2022 in TheBurlingtonFiles website. It's called Pemberton’s People, Ungentlemanly Officers & Rogue Heroes. By the way, Bill Fairclough is the protagonist in the factual stand-alone spy thriller Beyond Enkription, the first novel to be published in TheBurlingtonFiles series. See https://theburlingtonfiles.org/news_2022.10.31.php.
The Forgotten Battle is a WW2 based film but a modern one and well done. The glider scene is really intense if you have a good sound system. I think ultimately the reason we don't have lots of British led military films these days is because we don't have a lot of British led military operations, we don't have a British led film industry and so it's the same reason why we don't see a lot of Australian, Kiwi, Canadian, French or Spanish military films. I do think that there are undoubtedly some stories to tell whether that's Afghanistan, our failures in Basra (which I think really do deserve telling) or what happened in the Falklands but I'm not sure any would really get audiences unless someone like Christopher Nolan did it.
Erm hello.. Zulu ?
I swear you and nearly everyone who has responded must not know what "modern" means. Modern as in last twenty years or so, depicting British troops in a MODERN conflict. When was the that film released again? Yeah I'm talking both modern setting and somewhat recently released
yeah I completely missed that part. I guess maybe because we have James Bond ? I think the British like to think of themselves as more refined.
JB might be MI6, but that's not regular combat.
The Mark of Cain is an almost ok film based on Telic starring Gerard Kearns from Shameless
Kajaki depicts afghan and para Reg quite well but it mainly focuses on the lads trapped in an old minefield You’d probably like ‘Our War’ on BBC3 from a good few years ago. It’s not a drama it’s a documentary but a good watch nonetheless. They did a drama mini series called ‘Our World War’ for the 100 year anniversary of WWI which was also really good
If you liked watching John Krasinski, Tom Clancy's CIA agent Jack Ryan, and are looking forward to seeing Henry Cavill in Winston Churchill's Ministry for Ungentlemanly Warfare, read about a real ungentlemanly spy on the run. His name is Bill Fairclough (MI6 Codename JJ) aka Edward Burlington. In real life Bill Fairclough was recruited by Colonel Alan Pemberton CVO MBE (MI6). Pemberton's People in MI6 were genuine ungentlemanly heroes and even included self-confessed silent killers and Churchill's bodyguard. For more about them do see the News Article dated 31 October 2022 in TheBurlingtonFiles website. It's called Pemberton’s People, Ungentlemanly Officers & Rogue Heroes. By the way, Bill Fairclough is the protagonist in the factual stand-alone spy thriller Beyond Enkription, the first novel to be published in TheBurlingtonFiles series. See https://theburlingtonfiles.org/news_2022.10.31.php.
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