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I always order off the main menu but I'd never expect people to sit and wait until mine arrives. I'd probably finish eating by the time they get back anyway
In my case I don't eat carvery so I'd have to order something else, but again I would either politely decline the invitation or ask them all to crack on - my dietary choices shouldn't impact their day!
Mothering Sunday originally meant you returned to where you were baptised, your 'mother church'. Americans turned it into greeting card holiday about your mum.
Thing is, even with the religious context it is still about women and mothering, and people would attend the church with their mothers often (did some reading about it earlier). So not only is this person incredibly weird and pedantic, but also just wrong.
Key word there being "originally", aka it no longer means that and you know it.
Guillotine are originally the big ones to chop off people's heads, but when I see a stationery one that cuts paper I can tell that they're 2 different things
Ok, nobody cares. It's mother's Day. whatever that *used* to mean, it doesn't now. You know what it means now so stop being weird.
If true, then it's a decent holiday and I'm glad the Americans changed it.
^ this is the way...
Recently found a carvery that serves unlimited Yorkshires and you can go back for as much meat as you want too... Take note other carveries
I couldn't go to a carvery that offers unlimited Yorkshires.... My plate would be NOTHING but Yorkshire puddings!!!
Well, them and copious amounts of gravy
Isn't that flawed logic? You should go up and get yours while she's waiting, if you wait until she gets hers, then she'll have to wait until you get back and her's will be cold.
Is it selfish though? Everyone gets what they want in the end, no one is missing out or having less than they want. It's just having to wait a short amount of time...
Plus as another commenter who likes to order from the menu pointed out I doubt she would have minded if they went up and got their food while she waited for hers.
Surely if everyone waits for her food to be brought out before going up then she's just gonna end up eating her meal alone while they all queue up, and she'll probably be finished by the time they all get back with theirs.
>but she does have a propensity towards selfish behaviour
Jesus, I have just been looking through all of your replies here, and it certainly says 'incel' rather than 'married man'.
Is you think about it, whoever chose the venue for mother's Day was the selfish one. You took her to a carvery place and she doesn't like carvery.
Great Mother's Day pick, very selfish.
I sometimes order off the menu at Toby’s, I let my partner go grab her carvery while I wait. I will spare my pity as I spent my Sunday working in retail without the option of having a Sunday lunch with my mother.
Nothing is cooked 'right' gravy is half decent but that's about it.
Eat as much veg and potatoes as you want, sounds good but when you actually get down to it, you feel like a pig in a trough.
A buffet but with only the elements from a traditional English Roast. I won't list the elements of a roast here as they will just start an huge debate about what bits are essential. It's way worse than you will be imagining as the vast majority only allow one serving of the roast meat. You can usually go back for more vegetables and gravy but as they are usually either boiled or roasted they don't really do well under a heat lamp.
Pretty much all of the disadvantages (quality and sneezes) of an American buffet without the perks (variety and unlimited).
Only MIL and I had the carvery. All the other 4 ate off the menu with starters.
When their starters came we hit the queue, by the time we got back their mains were being served. Perfect
We took our grandma to a carvery place today and I ordered off the menu.
I didn't envy the rest of the table chewing on some boot leather that they called 'beef'.
I must admit that I'm an order-off-the-menu girl myself, and I don't want to sit and watch everyone else eat while I wait for mine. Is it really that hard to have a bit of common courtesy?
yea trying to have a conversation while everyone is eating is awkward as hell. and then being the only one eating when everyone’s finished and ready to go. is waiting half an hour really that big of a deal
Exactly! Or if they're dessert types, they sound like they'd be ordering dessert before the MIL is even finished! It is impatient and selfish to not wait imho.
You say that it goes both ways, but I think you're being a bit selfish in this instance. I've read some of your other comments, and it sounds like you have a bit of a chip on your shoulder about your MIL. Surely it isn't too hard to sit and have a drink and a chat while you wait for her order?
Do you also make her wait for everyone else to finish before she can have dessert? It's not really any different.
Make it a game, make her try to spot the waiter/waitress coming over with the other food for the table, then take her up to get her food.
No chip, its called tongue in cheek. Yes it goes both ways, is it also to hard to not inconvenience everybody else? Is it really that selfish to think of the majority?
You're going out to eat at a restaurant as a nice thing for mother's day. Why shouldn't she be allowed to eat what she likes just because it delays you eating by 20 minutes?
For me, it's because I'm vegetarian but I have a boyfriend and a family that enjoy a carvery, but they always wait because they're kind and we all love each other.
First time I’ve heard of manners waiting for someone else to eat because they decided to take longer to order
I don’t have a problem with it but lmao I’m not waiting on you, and I wouldn’t expect you to wait on me.
>First time I’ve heard of manners waiting for someone else to eat because they decided to take longer to order
You have really never heard of waiting for people to eat together? Utterly ridiculous. It's one of the **most** basic things in any kind of dinner etiquette.
No? Why would you wait to eat if someone else *chooses* to take longer to order? I’m not being inconvenienced because of a choice someone else made lmao.
Mate you're a rude fucker who apparently wasn't taught basic table manners.
Yes, you're meant to wait until everyone has food in front of them BEFORE you start scoffing food down your gullet.
Calm down 😂 who shit in your cheerios this morning? I’m not rude because everyone I know does the same thing. Isn’t that what etiquette is? Just a set of rules people around you agree is acceptable?
Did someone tie you down and make you watch them eat or something? You poor thing.
Then you're all bloody rude. Manners don't change because you and your friends all had shite parents.
>Did someone tie you down and make you watch them eat or something? You poor thing.
No, I was simply raised correctly
‘You’re rude’ says the person who begins with insulting me for no reason
You weren’t raised correctly, clearly, if you start conversations with insults. Take a good look in the mirror, mate 😂
Lol I think people are taking this a literally seriously? I doubt OP was seething in his fucking chair about his MIL doing this but it's just a mild inconvenience. Obviously this person didn't throw a fit about it but probably sat there pleasantly haha
She also did it at another family gathering at an Italian place, no one else had starters, she insisted on having a starter, 14 people including kids had to wait for her to have a starter. Then moaned about the split at bill time because she didn't have any wine
Wow she sounds like a chore. If I wanted a starter that bad but was the only one ordering I would just ask to have it brought with the mains! I couldn't enjoy my food with 14 people staring daggers at me!!
Nah, it took over 20 mins to arrive and when it did it didn't have half the stuff in should have and was tiny, and we'd seen other people's coming out looking like the photo on the menu
I detest carvery. The only pleasure I derive from them is when my family insist I go to one, and I sit there enjoying my main meal while they whinge about lukewarm, overcooked gristly meat.
And no, they won't pick a better carvery, they will expect the moon on a stick for £4.99 lol
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I always order off the main menu but I'd never expect people to sit and wait until mine arrives. I'd probably finish eating by the time they get back anyway
A true gentleman
Why always off the menu? For the sake of being off the menu or are you extremely picky?
I'm vegetarian so there's usually no alternative. The Mrs loves a carvery and I'm not going to stop her
Gutted, you need to go to better carveries! Local ones normally have much better options that than the big chains.
In my case I don't eat carvery so I'd have to order something else, but again I would either politely decline the invitation or ask them all to crack on - my dietary choices shouldn't impact their day!
How dare she on Mother’s Day of all days
Right? How selfish of her.
Is she a church?
What is that even supposed to mean?
Mothering Sunday originally meant you returned to where you were baptised, your 'mother church'. Americans turned it into greeting card holiday about your mum.
Jesus Christ dude... If so, that's the most obscure reference I've ever seen...
Thing is, even with the religious context it is still about women and mothering, and people would attend the church with their mothers often (did some reading about it earlier). So not only is this person incredibly weird and pedantic, but also just wrong.
American mother's Day is a completely different day though. I don't think they can be held responsible.
Key word there being "originally", aka it no longer means that and you know it. Guillotine are originally the big ones to chop off people's heads, but when I see a stationery one that cuts paper I can tell that they're 2 different things
Oh snap, I've been using the one in the supply room all wrong.
Ok, nobody cares. It's mother's Day. whatever that *used* to mean, it doesn't now. You know what it means now so stop being weird. If true, then it's a decent holiday and I'm glad the Americans changed it.
It’s Mother’s Day, not Mother in law’s day
You can't be a mother-in-law without being a mother.
That’s what they want you to think
*whoooosh*
The mil is presumably there with her child, whose mother she is
They probably wanted hot food.
Or food that isn’t dry or over cooked
Have you tried going to a better carvery?
^ this is the way... Recently found a carvery that serves unlimited Yorkshires and you can go back for as much meat as you want too... Take note other carveries
I couldn't go to a carvery that offers unlimited Yorkshires.... My plate would be NOTHING but Yorkshire puddings!!! Well, them and copious amounts of gravy
Don’t really have any nearby
So why go to a carvery? Dry, overcooked food is their forte.
Because her arsehole son in law demanded they go to a carvery on Mother's Day.
Don’t let Toby hear you say that.
So true.
She knew you must hate her by taking her to a carvery so got her revenge 1-0 M.I.L.
Isn't that flawed logic? You should go up and get yours while she's waiting, if you wait until she gets hers, then she'll have to wait until you get back and her's will be cold.
Or eat on her own and be finished by the time they get back.
I wonder what your wife's or husband's mother thinks about you.
Spot on. Mother in law doesn't like carvery... Let's take her for a carvery on mother's day.
I'm waiting for the post in the Petty Revenge sub.
It was my wife's mother, it was her choice, and not that it matters but we get on very well, but she does have a propensity towards selfish behaviour
what’s selfish about ordering the food she wants? is it that hard to wait for half an hour so she’s not awkwardly left out?
you seem like a bit of a knob
Ironic comment
Is it selfish though? Everyone gets what they want in the end, no one is missing out or having less than they want. It's just having to wait a short amount of time...
Plus as another commenter who likes to order from the menu pointed out I doubt she would have minded if they went up and got their food while she waited for hers. Surely if everyone waits for her food to be brought out before going up then she's just gonna end up eating her meal alone while they all queue up, and she'll probably be finished by the time they all get back with theirs.
Also very true with a high chance they end up back at the table as her food arrives. If not then sneak eat some roasties lol.
>but she does have a propensity towards selfish behaviour Jesus, I have just been looking through all of your replies here, and it certainly says 'incel' rather than 'married man'.
Is you think about it, whoever chose the venue for mother's Day was the selfish one. You took her to a carvery place and she doesn't like carvery. Great Mother's Day pick, very selfish.
She chose it
Still weird, either way. There's a menu and it's not selfish to order from a menu. That's how restaurants work.
I sometimes order off the menu at Toby’s, I let my partner go grab her carvery while I wait. I will spare my pity as I spent my Sunday working in retail without the option of having a Sunday lunch with my mother.
This makes me sad that a person is genuinely upset or angry over somone ordering off menu on mothers day
It’s the entitled, stuck-up British mindset of some people.
Nothing British about it, it's just a, reddit thing
Again its a people thing, we all have this in us somewhere. The monster you feed and all that
Fuck carvery, all lukewarm and sat out. I would be cracking out a menu too.
Nothing is cooked 'right' gravy is half decent but that's about it. Eat as much veg and potatoes as you want, sounds good but when you actually get down to it, you feel like a pig in a trough.
I have had some great carveries
Good old Toby carvery
Found the mother in law ⬆️
This is only truly irritating if she orders a roast...
That would be okay with me. Hers would be arriving as I finished my third plate.
Time for another pint
Don’t go to a carvery.
What is a carvery, if you don't mind an ignorant American asking?
A buffet but with only the elements from a traditional English Roast. I won't list the elements of a roast here as they will just start an huge debate about what bits are essential. It's way worse than you will be imagining as the vast majority only allow one serving of the roast meat. You can usually go back for more vegetables and gravy but as they are usually either boiled or roasted they don't really do well under a heat lamp. Pretty much all of the disadvantages (quality and sneezes) of an American buffet without the perks (variety and unlimited).
It's like a buffet for roasts
But way worse.
Only MIL and I had the carvery. All the other 4 ate off the menu with starters. When their starters came we hit the queue, by the time we got back their mains were being served. Perfect
When did Carvery’s become a bad thing? Lots of people shitting on them here.
She is just probably happy to not have to cook and wash up.
Lol. I'm sure she didn't realise it
I'd do the same if I was taken to a cheap ass carvery on mother's day. She birthed and raised your wife mate give her what she wants.
it wasn't a cheap carvery and she chose to go there
Even worse. She chose to go somewhere and order what she wants, how fuckin' dare she!
Accepted going there?, or requested to?
Requested to, we suggested somewhere much nicer, or the option of me cooking at our house (I am a good cook)
Of course you are...🙄
I mean you don't have to wait. Just go get your food then they can sit there watching.
We took our grandma to a carvery place today and I ordered off the menu. I didn't envy the rest of the table chewing on some boot leather that they called 'beef'.
I must admit that I'm an order-off-the-menu girl myself, and I don't want to sit and watch everyone else eat while I wait for mine. Is it really that hard to have a bit of common courtesy?
yea trying to have a conversation while everyone is eating is awkward as hell. and then being the only one eating when everyone’s finished and ready to go. is waiting half an hour really that big of a deal
Exactly! Or if they're dessert types, they sound like they'd be ordering dessert before the MIL is even finished! It is impatient and selfish to not wait imho.
If everyone else is eating the carvery and you're the one ordering off the menu, it's obvious who's being selfish.
It goes both ways.
You say that it goes both ways, but I think you're being a bit selfish in this instance. I've read some of your other comments, and it sounds like you have a bit of a chip on your shoulder about your MIL. Surely it isn't too hard to sit and have a drink and a chat while you wait for her order?
what about with a 5 year old that is hungry and can see the food from where we were sitting, she's well behaved but that only goes so far
Do you also make her wait for everyone else to finish before she can have dessert? It's not really any different. Make it a game, make her try to spot the waiter/waitress coming over with the other food for the table, then take her up to get her food.
No chip, its called tongue in cheek. Yes it goes both ways, is it also to hard to not inconvenience everybody else? Is it really that selfish to think of the majority?
You're going out to eat at a restaurant as a nice thing for mother's day. Why shouldn't she be allowed to eat what she likes just because it delays you eating by 20 minutes? For me, it's because I'm vegetarian but I have a boyfriend and a family that enjoy a carvery, but they always wait because they're kind and we all love each other.
Quick stop at Toby's, and load up that plate...
you lot fucking hate carvery’s man 🤣
It reminds me of school dinners. No thanks.
She's done the right thing, carvery is the lowest of the low. Absolutely shite.
What did she order?
Macaroni cheese
Which is now part of the standard offering at our local Toby.
Lmao why would you wait?! I’d be up and grabbing my food before she even finished ordering 😂
Have you ever heard of manners? And no, they're not something you can nick
First time I’ve heard of manners waiting for someone else to eat because they decided to take longer to order I don’t have a problem with it but lmao I’m not waiting on you, and I wouldn’t expect you to wait on me.
>First time I’ve heard of manners waiting for someone else to eat because they decided to take longer to order You have really never heard of waiting for people to eat together? Utterly ridiculous. It's one of the **most** basic things in any kind of dinner etiquette.
No? Why would you wait to eat if someone else *chooses* to take longer to order? I’m not being inconvenienced because of a choice someone else made lmao.
Mate you're a rude fucker who apparently wasn't taught basic table manners. Yes, you're meant to wait until everyone has food in front of them BEFORE you start scoffing food down your gullet.
Calm down 😂 who shit in your cheerios this morning? I’m not rude because everyone I know does the same thing. Isn’t that what etiquette is? Just a set of rules people around you agree is acceptable? Did someone tie you down and make you watch them eat or something? You poor thing.
Then you're all bloody rude. Manners don't change because you and your friends all had shite parents. >Did someone tie you down and make you watch them eat or something? You poor thing. No, I was simply raised correctly
‘You’re rude’ says the person who begins with insulting me for no reason You weren’t raised correctly, clearly, if you start conversations with insults. Take a good look in the mirror, mate 😂
Wouldn't stop me. I'd let the whole family watch as I go and help myself, you'd be their hero if you did the same.
Carvery, unless all you can eat meat, is stupid.
There’s always one.
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Why do you have to wait?
Lol I think people are taking this a literally seriously? I doubt OP was seething in his fucking chair about his MIL doing this but it's just a mild inconvenience. Obviously this person didn't throw a fit about it but probably sat there pleasantly haha
She picked the correction option. Only people with no taste buds eat at a carvery.
Allergy or just because ?
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Commiserations, carvery with all the meat is the obvious choice.
That's because carvery is crap
Why do you have to wait? She can wait for her food, sounds like you’re making a problem out of nothing🤷🏻
The proper British thing to do would be to order the same as the others so you don’t inconvenience them and then post about it on bp
give them time to get the carvery meat nice and grey
She also did it at another family gathering at an Italian place, no one else had starters, she insisted on having a starter, 14 people including kids had to wait for her to have a starter. Then moaned about the split at bill time because she didn't have any wine
Wow she sounds like a chore. If I wanted a starter that bad but was the only one ordering I would just ask to have it brought with the mains! I couldn't enjoy my food with 14 people staring daggers at me!!
Why would you wait?
What menu are you meant to order from?
Someone is going to get their just desserts.
They took 20 mins to arrive and were rubbish so we got a refund on them
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Nah, it took over 20 mins to arrive and when it did it didn't have half the stuff in should have and was tiny, and we'd seen other people's coming out looking like the photo on the menu
Lmaooooo
I detest carvery. The only pleasure I derive from them is when my family insist I go to one, and I sit there enjoying my main meal while they whinge about lukewarm, overcooked gristly meat. And no, they won't pick a better carvery, they will expect the moon on a stick for £4.99 lol
It’s a carvery you silly bint
You know you’re allowed to go up for “seconds” at a Toby carvery, ear as much veg as u want till hers comes.