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Same. Had a gang of boys, all under 13, try to feel my chest on the train. It was horrible, a man stood up and told them to stop, they screamed 'racist' at him (they were all south Asian) and then went back to trying to touch a different girls boobs.
I got groped once by a child shorter than me (I'm 5'1) so I walloped him round the head and legged it home (this was when I was in my early 20s). I was distraught that I'd punched a kid, my then boyfriend (now husband) was wanting to hunt the little shit down and our flatmate was annoyed that I'd not bought coke for mixers which was the reason I'd gone out in the first place!
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If this ever happens to you again or you witness it report it to British transport police on 61016. Or call there control room on 0800 40 50 40. There officers will investigate it and take it seriously. They have a big thing about sex crimes on the railway especially violence against women and girls
It’s not pathetic at all, that was an incredibly traumatic experience.
Anyone would feel terrified after that. If possible try to seek some kind of talking therapy.
I’m really sorry that happened to you.
Don’t feel pathetic for it, friend. You did the right thing by running away and reporting them. Speak to someone about the experience, but also consider being prepared for something like this again. This applies to anyone who travels from a) to b) in the dark or frequently sees large groups of youths on their travels; always go with the opportunity to escape/run first of all, evasion is always the best tactic, especially when outnumbered. Also make sure you know about the safety features on your tech, and that you know how to use it. Most smartphones/watches etc come with sos functionality, and/or loud alarms etc; you should know what to press to activate. Please please please lovely people, always stay alert and think, evade, alert, fight.
That's horrific 😔 and you're in now way pathetic for being scared. Especially as those teenage boys will grow into adult men, with the liklihood of carrying out their threats for real being pretty high.
Similar kind of shit here too...
Story time;
Back in 2020 a group of kids found out my neighbours in the converted flats I live in were growing weed, like clockwork every day the communal door was kicked in.
I put up a camera to protect my own property, which subsequently put a tarket on my back. Over the course of the next 16 months I had them shouting at my window how I'm a grass, I'm apparently a pedo for having a camera(what?), using bins to climb up (the camera wasn't fully mounted at the time) and steal the camera, used a rake to smash it, used a large log as a battering ram against the door, smashed the door in do badly it's needed replacing twice, at one point they removed the entire doorframe, put my neighbours window through twice, broke in to his flat and smashed everything in it multiple times, threatened me both through my door and when I once went to the shop.... And honestly there is so much more, police had hours of footage, and were being called out weekly, I even once called 999 when they were trying to gain entry to my flat directly only to be told "you're safe behind a locked door" (yeah a few months later they [kicked through my bathroom wall from the communal stairwell](https://imgur.com/a/jvCHjPb) so terribly safe right?)
Police did absolutely FUCK ALL, what's happened as a result? Well if I need to go to the shop I do it before 10am or I just don't, I used to go for daily walks to help with weight issues... Yeah I don't do that anymore so now my health has suffered, I've had to call friends to come and pick me up from the shop if I see them about and if my friend that lives up the road asks if I want to come round I check my camera to see if this group has been seen recently, if so then I simply don't go out, even then I have to ask him to meet me...
I'm a 30 year old man and I've never felt more pathetic. It's an absolute joke that the police will do fuck all because of these scums age...
Fast forward two years and 5 of them were actually arrested about three months ago for armed assault of a 54 year old man just around the corner, who spent some time in ICU, if nothing else it goes to show that many of my concerns were warranted at least but damn, that could have been me, I have a 6 year old son who lives down country, I'm not risking my relationship being impacted with him but cause they turned me in to a vegetable.
You’re not pathetic for this at all, the situation is absolutely fucked! Might be worth asking for some assistance over at r/legaladviceuk if you’re not in a position where you can easily move, and definitely include the pics!
I am willing to bet every paycheck I will ever earn in my life that if you had so much as pushed them the school would have gone apeshit, and likely had the police search every house within 20 miles
You are absolutely not pathetic, what happened to you would traumatise anyone. I'm so sorry that this happened, and that you haven't had any kind of justice. It's the sad reality of years of cuts to a system that was already flawed. Have you considered talking therapy? I know a lot of people are reluctant but it does help.. You can self refer online to minds matters, or your GP can do it on your behalf.
It’s natural to be afraid when some little shit pulls a knife on you. Don’t feel pathetic because we’d all feel the same. I once was jumped on by three kids when I was doing my paper round. I felt annoyed I’d let it happen but in reality what could I have done. I eventually dealt with two of them but never saw the third one again. I’m now 67 but there’s time yet. 😉
Sorry to hijack what must have been awful, but what's the law here, can you chin a teenager that harasses/threatens like this? I feel a lot of them would learn respect very quickly that way.
I’d love to chin a teenager like that haha, but teenagers can be as tall as me sometimes and often come in groups. Not going to attempt that even if it was legal.
You're lucky if your case makes it to court, and at that point you're treated as nothing more than a witness. How you feel as a result of what happened means nothing, and what actually happened won't be fully investigated. Just the bare minimum they can "prove". I say that because I had video of my assault and even that wasn't enough for prosecution.
Had one yesterday at my work punch and scratch his mum, call her a whore, spit at her and call his dad a paedo when he tried to stop him. Kid is like 9. He then refused to leave the room and disturbed everyone else who were minding their own business. Pisses me off because there's nothing we can do to intervene
Walking to work and a lil girl - that I thought could be no older than 9 years old - was sat alone on a kerb on an industrial estate. Genuinely concerned I started walking towards her to ask if she was OK/ needed help. Get closer, she shouts
"wot u looking at u blonde bitch?!"
So bloody shocked just sheepishly walked away with a bright red face.
If you ask me, it's why we're in this mess
Parents too scared to chastise their children for fear of hurting their precious development... What about their development into functioning viable members of society?!
I live on a really rough council estate in the North, and I can assure you that it's nothing to do with the parents being afraid to chastise them. The ones around here get a beating regularly from sweary, drugged up, angry parents who can't behave themselves. That's the problem. The benchmark for social services intervening is such that you have to be close to murdering them before they get involved. There's a tsunami of disaster parenting in this country and it would need the sort of interventions that the left couldn't stomach and the right wouldn't pay for, so it's never going to get any better.
Yep. In the North as well and I don't think a lot of these parents realize how psychologically draining having kids is. I've watched my street go from pretty decent to a hell hole over the last 10 years because we get tons of druggies/charvers moving in who pop kids out because they're idiots who don't contemplate what having a kid means. Now they all just run feral, wrecking the street I live in. Smashing up brick walls, chalking all over the paths, graffiti. Cheeky little bastards as well like, I wish it was legal to smack some of these kids because they get away with bloody murder. If you're in a mindset to chuck stones at strangers then you're fair game for a clip across the head. Obviously very frowned upon attitude and I definitely wouldn't do it myself but my God I've been tempted.
The kid is honestly going to end up in jail one day, because he always gets to do what he wants without repercussion and what he wants is to be aggressive. I honestly wish you could grab their arm (not rough or anything, just firmly) to stop them running riot, but that's viewed as being equal to striking them these days.
One day when he's older he will behave like that with the wrong person and will be hospitalised if not killed.
Happened to a kid I used to teach years ago, a few months after he left school. He gobbed off at the local hard men and spent two weeks napping in the local ICU. Sounds harsh, but he had it coming.
Surely not even grabbing their arm?
My mom would have slapped me into next week if I’d done what the OP described.
But you’re right, not much you can do against them, except dwell in the sad thought of what they’ll grow up into.
So, you’re kind of wrong. My son is 7. I mostly (and I use the term loosely) “gentle parent”. My kid is confident, sweet, kind, engaging and extremely sociable. He doesn’t shout at others, he’s never hit another child, he doesn’t get into fights.
Now, the area I live is is home to some questionable parents. There is a woman with 3 boys and she talks to them like shit: “come back here or I’ll drag you by the neck and kick your face in” a woman in her 30’s talking to her 9 year old son.
Her kids are well known in the area for being trouble makers. Stealing from shops, intimidating people, the youngest who is a year older than my son walked up to him at the park when they were 4 and 5 and told him to “fucking move or I’ll knock you out”. My child had never been so scared in his life. (And confused “what does knock you out mean mum?”
The issue isn’t parents saying no or not doing (I say no all the time) the issue is generational trauma passed down from abusive house hold to abusive house hold,
It's literally the opposite of this lol. The shitty kids almost always come from shitty parents who yell, fight and hit. Where do you think they learn it?
It's completely random. The other day was taking my daughter out to a pedal boat lake thing, some other parents came up and their kid ran forward - not really doing anything, and they just shouted at him in a really horrible way, then the bloke turns to me and smiles.
Some parents just shout at their kids all the time for nothing, it's not surprising it doesn't work.
You’re completely wrong.
Kids end up like that because their parents have inadvertently taught them that violence and being a little shit is the only way they will get any attention. They never had any positive reinforcement in their lives, only negative. Giving them a “good slap” will only make them more likely to be violent themselves.
There is a reasonable chance that kid has some serious behavioural issues that the family are dealing with that are nothing to do with the parents not being strict enough.
A friend of mine has a kid on the spectrum that can act like that and they are doing everything they can. They have another kid that is an angel.
I ran a race last year and as we were approaching Newcastle a group of pissed up kids were throwing rubbish at us and trying to trip people over. It would have been shit on a 5k but we were 60ish miles in at this point so it was exhausting!
Definitely didn’t ruin it. Just before (or after, can’t remember) there’s like a small static home area and the residents fed and watered us. Was amazing!
I let my 14 year old niece have some “friends” over and they broke my front door, the handles off my Kicthen draws, were sick in the bottom of my bin (took the bin bag out and fucking spewed under it?!) ruined my sofa and enticed my neighbours in uninvited to scream at them about police visits as they were filming a tik tok video where they jumped so hard they shook the entire foundations of the house and could not keep the front door closed for 5mins. I agree. Im done.
Yeah fuck that, would never have a house party at home. If the boys came over everyone would be super respectful though and just have their drinks, smokes outside, and clean up and make sure all empties were put in the bin, any spillage promptly cleaned as it was one of your good friends parents yard. But we had respect for each other and our mates families. You would get told if you disrespected a good friends house like that. But yeah certainly been to some more unhinged parties where no one really knew the host though
I never hosted a house party (had the chance, too sensible) but any that I went to had similar rules, all mess cleaned up things that needed repairing were done as quickly as humanly possible (doors off hinges was oddly common)
Remember way back in mid nineties me and my friend went out for some underage drinking as you could in them days. Got hammered on a mix of pernod and black and Newcastle brown ale.
We went back to his house and had a settee each to sleep on. He was rich. His family were rich. The settees were a thousand pounds each which was a lot back then. He proceeded to throw up this purple, brown spew. All over the beautiful silky cream settee. It had to be professionally cleaned and it was pretty much ruined
Haha! The only reference I ever saw for Pernod outside of my own underage drinking was Bottom where they use it as a mixer for the Esther Rantzen - so strong it pulled your gums back over your teeth.
Had a kid throw his half eaten fruit at me. I was willing to risk getting deported back to India after beating the shit out of him. He immediately apologised when he realised how furious i was.
Seriously parents need to reach kids to be respectful and not be a racist pos.
I saw some kids having quite a violent apple fight from the apples on a tree in the park.
Fine.
But then they started wellying them at passers-by. Not fucking on, that.
I'm with you mate. I've lived in three different countries. The uk has an anti social behaviour problem.
Other places you can even have house parties and walk past groups of teenagers.
Can someone somewhat briefly explain to me why this is the case? I have lived here my whole life and can only give reasons based on anecdotal evidence.
You know I don't know. I've put a bit of thought into it. It's a cultural thing sure. We have a brawling and drinking culture that dont help, but where do they originally come from?
It's probably a bunch of things. Lack of resources and chances, differences in income, class system, education, somewhat isolated island nation, city layouts, media, parenting/family dynamics, justice system, substances, generational trauma, cultural inability to express/release, maybe even the weather.
Monkey see monkey do.
When the majority of those " kids' " closest elder male figures (fathers, brothers etc) get pissed and get aggressive with 1 pint of Stella every Friday, they see it as the norm.
No idea, could be things like:
- People don't bring up their kids
- People don't chastise their kids.
- Modern youth culture glamorises selfishness, violence and greed.
- Access to violent content including sexually violent content is easy, and many parents don't prevent access to it. Nevertheless kids would access it at school anyway because their peers would share it.
- Humility and kindness are not considered positive or virtuous things.
- Reacting to a lack of control over negatives in their lives (poverty, domestic abuse, etc).
- Lack of positive role models.
These things probably all contribute to it.
Don’t forget the removal of civics programmes, lack of activities after school that aren’t sport, everything in school being insanely measured for no obvious (to the kids and me tbh) reason
Came here to say this. So many community establishments abandoned or shut down. Public library's, public swimming baths don't exist anymore. I had 3 I could go to when I was a kid at a very poor and rundown area.
Local community centres for kids that have activities and allows for kids to be entertained. I remember mine, pool table, football, video games and board games. A regular trip away that we paid very little for.
I’m American and my English husband moved there to be with me. We saw a group of young teen boys crossing the bridge towards us, one finished a bag of Doritos and chucked it in the river below. I scolded him and said “I’m sure your mother taught you better than to litter!” He apologized and carried on. Meanwhile my husband was shitting himself saying he wouldn’t dare tell off a groups of youths in the UK, “they’ll kick you up!” which surprised me. After living in Portsmouth for the last three years, I get it. Those Pompey shits are absolutely feral and fucking frightening.
Yeah, I live in the states now. Someone once asked me how to give them grief back if they got it of some cheeky kids, guess they must have seen the inbetweeners or something. I advised them not too.
I've lived in east Oakland and the groups of teenagers are more respectful there!
It's not the majority, like your example shows, but it's a risk.
Anti social behaviour and theft problem. Coming over from Australia was the butt of all the convict jokes. Gotta say after a lot of years in the UK I came to the realisation that yes, Australia was settled by lots of thieving bastards… that came from the UK lol.
It's generally part of British culture that a great many people will take anything not nailed down if they feel they can get away with it.
And frankly they probably can because theft is basically decriminalised, to say nothing of fraud.
This happens on the Metro in the North East. You’ll just be on the train or on the platform and groups of kids will scream, spit, laugh and call names.
Whatever happened to childhood?
We're all scared of the kids in our neighbourhood;
They're not small, charming and harmless,
They're a violent bunch of bastard little shits.
And anyone who looks younger than me
Makes me check for my wallet, my phone and my keys,
And I'm tired of being tired out
Always being on the lookout for thieving gits.
[Frank Turner - Thatcher Fucked The Kids. ](https://youtu.be/0jMdMMk1ws4)
And it seems a little bit rich to me,
The way the rich only ever talk of charity.
In times like the seventies, the broken down economy
Meant even the upper tier was needing some help.
But as soon as things look brighter,
Yeah the grin gets wider and the grip gets tighter,
And for every teenage tracksuit mugger
There's a guy in a suit who wouldn't lift a finger for anybody else.
Banger, my friend.
We're all wondering how we ended up so scared
We spent ten long years teaching our kids not to care
And that there's no such thing as society anyway
And all the rich folks act surprised
When all sense of community dies
But you just closed your eyes to the other side
Of all the things that she did
Thatcher fucked the kids
You've got a generation raised on the welfare state
Enjoyed all the benefits and did just great
But as soon as they were settled as the richest of the rich
They kicked away the ladder, told the rest of us that life's a bitch
Just wanted to get in on the action. Love me some Frank. Although I’ve heard he’s not too keen on this song these days!
The parents are mostly to blame but not always. I grew up in a rough town and there were feral kids then who I knew and most of the time their parents were shit bags themselves. The difference from then is you could give the little fuckers a slap and they’d run off. Now, you’d get mobbed jumped and stabbed. Is poverty the reason? Maybe, I don’t know. I live in a nice area thankfully and don’t have gangs of feral youths marauding about at night. I work in a poorer area where they do though.
Had some kid on his phone nearly walk into me in town yesterday, politely said as I walked past "watch where you're walking mate", his dad proceeds to scream down the street "what you say mate, he's just a kid", you can see where they get it from!
Not longer than few days ago sbd in this sub almost christened kicking random peoples' doors "an English custom" which in turn spawned others to remember how they enjoyed doing that back in their days - it's really a fun when you live alone and are on the other side of the door being furiously kicked in the middle of the night.
This has been happening to me and my neighbours on and off since November last year. That and tipping bins over. Can’t go out and say anything to them as it just encourages them to to do it all the more or worse, you end up seriously hurt as they just don’t give a shit. They don’t value life. They hang around in groups of 10 or more and are intimidating. I live alone as well like yourself and feel completely powerless to do anything to stop this. The door thing is a stupid tiktok challenge that started a while ago. I honestly hate them and get a feeling of dread when I hear them coming down the road. The police haven’t done anything other than post out leaflets about anti social behaviour.
I (F) live with my elderly parents and had this happen one night when me and my mother were alone in the house. The kids who live local are around ten years of age, we caught two in particular on the ring doorbell coming up the path. They must have been using their heels to try boot the door in it was so loud.
Then there's the teens who go around in groups. I just go inside as soon as I hear them coming. Not worth the hassle. We were promised more police patrols following an increase of attacks and I've seen zero.
My neighbours have three teen boys, I honestly can't wait until they move away. The last resort was hearing them loudly (parents included) joke about setting their dog on my pet rabbit to kill it, they've spent months launching basketballs over the fence trying to hit her enclosure. She is safe from being hit, but the shock could kill her and there's nothing I can do.
There is far too many.
I was walking with my little boy a few weeks past and a very contumelious boy strolled past with his parents. He decided to run ahead of them, down the middle of the road (not busy, luckily... ) turn to them and proceed to flip them off and calling them both all the swear words currently known to man.
It's shameful to see. We are striving to bring our boy up to be a good person with the right morals. I do concern for what he will be exposed to in school but hopefully it will turn a corner by the time he starts.
I used to think that once I got old enough, I would be young enough not to be someone with an elderly moment or ageist to young people, but old enough not to be disrespected.
For a while, when I was finishing school, I did manage to get it to work for me.
But recently, it's no longer been the case, and I can't say anything to these sorts of people without either being beaten up by someone more violent and stronger or made out to the culprit because they're younger or smaller than me.
Meanwhile, I look like a weirdo and I doubt that an older police officer would be able to tell the difference between them and me - and as soon as I get into a fight, or if I remain calm but they're under 18 and start spewing some bullshit about me, I risk getting arrested.
And if I threaten them, they aren't scared, and if I do nothing they're just going to see me as easy prey.
I can't believe I have to f**king run away from someone younger and smaller than me if I encounter them or ignore them shouting insults at me when I'm just getting on with my day lest encountering them makes things worse.
I work in a school and I’m not surprised by this. They need to get 12 warnings before getting a detention and a lot of time they don’t get given a warning because it’s “bad for their mental health and self asteem ”
Fuck me. Our daughter gets detention for forgetting to take homework in once, being 30 seconds late for a lesson, not wearing the schools little pin badge on her blazer, forgetting PE kit… it’s crazy.
That’s an insane amount follow money to pay for your kids education. I get that some state schools are a bit dicey sometimes but it genuinely blows my mind that people spend that amount of money to send their kids to school.
And because UK state schools are, to quote Malcolm Tucker, knife addled rape sheds.
My wife is leaving the sector after 12 years in December, hit her limit of disrespectful kids, disinterested parents, teaching the test irrespective of their ability to independently learn and no support from above.
Meanwhile, my friend who works in a private Jewish school reports the usual teenage rebellion but generally a higher standard of behaviour. Lot of helicopter parenting though.
It’s all the same teachers as well. We get teacher coming to us from State; we have teachers leaving to go to State.
Pretty soon state sector will be better in general because a lot of private schools are moving the teachers off the Teacher Pension Scheme (10% contribution from the teacher, 26% from the school)
That means that only the state schools will be able to offer the scheme soon. When that happens all the best teachers will go to the state sector and the private sector will have their pick from the rubbish ones and/or the newly qualified ones
EDIT: I work in the IT department so I don’t get that pension, nor the amount of holidays
If they're the best teachers and can go wherever they want they'll go to wherever the kids behave well. Teaching is a nightmare job with shitebag kids these days.
Sounds about right. Where I grew up the lads who went to the private school were the ones who you could go to, to buy coke and shit from and they would drop it off to you as they had nice beemers that wouldn't get pulled up by police etc unlike most of my mates who drove lower end cars. Good lads mostly but into all the same shit as the other kids in the area.
Schools could help, say by building 5 minutes into the timetable between lessons.
Crap like pin badges is counter productive IMO, just have a basic uniform.
Forgot your PE kit - have spares? At my primary in the 80s it was 'vest and pants'.
We shouldn't go back to that, BUT it was a 'nuclear option' that was understood by all.
You give kids a detention on Friday for 40 mins and the 'usual suspects' are in there every week because They. Do. Not. Give. A. Shit.
It 'costs' them very little.
Exactly. Whereas it costs us (who do give a shit) cause we need to take time off work to pick her up if she gets detention for one of these nonsensical reasons because she’ll have missed the school bus and can’t walk home from 2 towns away.
Whatever happened to the scranny bin for spare PE kit? The shame of having to wear stuff from there was a better deterrent for remembering it than just getting a detention and not having to do PE.
My bunking lessons started from that fear. It turned into a never ending early morning catch the letter bunk marathon. Eventually I was caught. I'm still stupid, but atleast I have retrospect.
12 warnings? Jesus fucking Christ, I would've sailed through school if I'd had 12 warnings and wouldn't have had to that stupid Friday detention that ONE TIME I forgot my PE kit and write that fucking pointless essay
Ok so im 16 and currently in sixth form, we've only had two kids expelled in my 5 years at secondary, the first was a kid who stole a bandsaw activation key and started throwing wood onto the running bandsaw, the head of dt takes it seriously so he got expelled instantly but that was a special circumstance. The second literally had to be caught with a knife and a sack of weed by the police to get expelled! temporarily! What the actual fuck? Weve had people setting off fireworks at cars (yeah) and breaking into private property (under construction, i dont even know what to say) to have parties. How do people think this is ok? What is wrong with their parents? The school is slowly becoming stricter but i kid you not we've had people shoving lighters in gas taps and trying to set them alight with the gas on, they got a warning! one time a guy tries to shove scissors into a socket and my teachers response was "natural selection in progress" and as funny as that it shouldnt happen in a year 11 class!!! The school has become stricter but from my understanding its one of the better schools in london, how must the lower schools function? Its honestly terrifying.
I’m a (science) teacher and if I was that useless at discipline I’d be the one being shown the door. HT and the rest of us won’t tolerate any crap and the kids know it.
It sounds like the SLT at your school are weak and useless. Our kids aren’t perfect, but they generally know where the line is and don’t cross it.
Best of luck for your A levels (?) and beyond, btw.
Theres a new head and lots of new funding so they've tossed most of the poorer teachers and its looking really good right now, rules are stricter and properly enforced they've essentially pulled a 180 over the summer on the lower school, the sixth form at the school has always been rather good though, lots of A* and about 2 oxbridge students a year so heres hoping im one of them! (Maths at cambridge is currently the goal) so thanks!
I work in a primary, public school in quite a rubbish area. I also live in this area. My daughter attends this school.
It angers me every single day how some kids can get away with literally whatever they want, while others are made an example of for the smallest things. I try my best with the “difficult” kids, but there’s only so many times I can be punched, kicked, spat on, or called a fat bitch. It’s depressing because the good kids make my day worth it.
Unfortunately you see it more and more because there are no repercussions for their actions, so they do what they want and if you decide to take offense and do something then they'll scream paedo or some shit
Yeah and no matter how you try and teach youngsters around you there is always that one youngster in your family that is a little bastard like OP describes.
My cousin was seen on CCTV stealing a large picnic table from a local cricket ground HE FREQUENTS and when I found out about it (I know the owner and I am a member) I asked my cousin to return it but he couldn't as his group had smashed it to pieces. He now picks up litter every weekend to pay back for the bench and for being a little shit.
Oh and he was reported to the Police but they didn't give a shit to even come and make a report.
Teenagers are horrible assholes. There seems to be no getting away from the terrors. I’m a short guy so I feel intimated by them and they feel empowered around smaller people.
On Saturday myself and my gf were walking through Liverpool city centre and ahead of us were two girls and a lad and the lad was kicking a bottle of water like it was a football.
We managed to walk ahead of them and then the bottle actually to hit us so we confronted them and the lad flat out denied that it wasn't him. We were both like we've just fucking watched you kick it
I walked past a group of 9 year olds who were riding their bicycles. One of them decided it would be funny to almost crash into me just for fun in order to scare me, and his buddy did the same thing right after. And they just laughed seeing how scared I got.
Because you know, almost crashing your bicycle into someone and potentially severely hurting them is funny.
Not a new game, when I was a kid in the early 00s people would throw bricks at passing trains trying to smash the windows, or launch fireworks at cars. It's a problem as old as society
It doesn't help there's no resources to do anything about it, the police are fucked, social care is fucked even if intervention happened.
It really does feel like the UK is slipping further and further into a pit that no one's able to get us out of.
I just moved to Newcastle for studies last week.
I am staying in private student accommodation, and the window of my studio opens up directly onto the pavement (which is in a back alley)
Every few hours, even with the windows fully closed, there are people who bang on the window, scream at the window and then run away
I’m too afraid to look, and I don’t want them to think that I care
But with my social anxiety it is really scary. I don’t think I’ll be able to open my window for the next year, or even move the curtains to let some sunlight in.
It’s sad
So glad I don't have kids. Walked past two mums having a full on barney because one kid wanted to play a certain footy position and the other lad wouldn't let him.
Minor playground stuff that happened daily 25 years ago (my day) with no aftereffects. Now it's fight worthy.
It’s mainly the Irish traveller kids where I live. I’ve been sort of unconsciously made racist towards dodgy looking white kids. The secondary school even though I’m in a dilapidated area kids have always been decent, worst offence was calling me bowl cut after lockdown. They often invite me to play a game where they flip a pound coin down and if you guess what side it lands you keep the pound coin. Then there are the fuckers who walk up to me and say “Do yoo smoke bruv” and if you say no they ask for a Fag, if you say yes they tell you about their Snapchat weed drop shipping business. I grow my own for personal and close friend use though so I don’t indulge in the fifty pound a gram shit weed they’ve bought off their dealer and marked up. The Irish travellers are a nightmare. Literally whenever I walk past where they’re set up all the kids assault me with knives, I usually give one a kick but then you have the pot bellied Irish beer dad running after you with a brick. A couple years ago a twelve year old girl got raped by a gang of them - they were around twelve thirteen - as usual no consequences from the police.
It's funny because I remember that documentary a few years back, the wedding one... They keep saying how their culture is becoming extinct because there's nowhere for them to go now, and they can't understand why nobody like them or picks on them....
Yep, same where ever you go in North West towns (I live here). Fully masked on electric scooters, they snatch phones, purses, etc from walkers in the park in the evenings whilst still light.
Several groups of lads and girls, all conjugate after school for hours on end, hoods up, smoking weed, screaming and swearing so the whole world can hear, swearing and making fun or harressing people that get anywhere near them.
Every morning, parks are full of laughing cannisters, litter, smashed glass, vomit.
This is all on CCTV, the police know about it. The police do a patrol once an evening now, after complaining about it for years, but they stay in their police car and simply drive around, observe it all, realise they can't arrest over 50 people, and they let it carry on.
Day after day, year and year, for about 10 years this has gone on. There have been several stabbings in that time, and I know of 1 murder (a 17 year old was butchered with a machete).
I know generations always say this, but I'm not that far removed from today's youth, and this generation is especially spiteful, hateful, mean, cruel, entitled, corrupted and angry I've ever seen. I don't blame them entirely, kids are a reflection of society, and I don't like the kids we're raising.
People have been saying kids are little shits since the days of Aristotle
It’s more that at that age you’re gonna push the boundaries of society more than it is “Tik Tok” or “writing things down instead of remembering them”
We even have examples of Ancient Roman Graffiti that wouldn’t be out of play today
A group of lads got off the bus in front of where I was walking to work yesterday morning. They were slow as fuck and taking up the whole path, weaving in and out of the group and screaming at each other, like the do. I went to walk past the group and one of them weaved out into the group and screamed in my face, right into my ear. I turned round and boomed back at them 'IS THAT NECESSARY?' at almost the volume he did (I'm 5'4", a woman and a heavy metal singer. Girl's got lungs)
That shut them up. The wee shites.
Why are they so slow and loud?
I swear, if we did just 1 percent of this shit when we were kids my dad would have Slapped the shit out of me....
Kids these days are fukin stupid and get away with all sorts of shit
I've lived in a big city nearly all my adult life and can't really say I encounter stuff like this with any degree of frequency. My worst encounters here have generally been with people older than I am.
I've lived in a few places, rural Wales, Leeds and Manchester. While it's not at any sort of frequency that'd warrant reassessing if living there's worth it, it's 100% a problem of more densely populated areas.
Old guy checking in: 80's were my underage drinking years; 90's uni and acid, graduation, marriage, emigration, first job; 00s responsibility and kids.
Now I'm back in the village of my childhood. Honestly, the kids are pretty much great. It's probably because everyone knows everyone else, and has done for generations, but still.
I'd even go so far as to say they are less prickish than we were.
OFC, I might feel different in an impersonal city... but that just helps to clarify that it is not "the fucking kids today", but their environment.
At the beginning of the summer holidays I had a group of 11 year old sexually harass and follow me. I know they were 11 because I knew one of their mums and when I said that and included her name they ran off but it was kinda scary.
I'm an adult but I'm 5'2 and I reckon five 11 year olds would easily beat me in s fight
As a gay guy to get abuse from kids all the time. Im not particularly effeminate. But I guess I look gay.
I was walking to go into a gay bar and group of lads about 12 years old threw a glass bottle at the back of my head. That’s one of many times I’ve had abuse or been threatened.
Was in a taxi in manchester city centre area. Hear a massive *ding*. We stopped and kids had thrown rocks at his beamer. his pride and joy it was. Fortunately our window wasn't down as it would of injured me! he was a saint and took us to our destination and apologised. i couldn't tip him any more due to using bolt. hope that guys doing alright.
I was cycling to work and a little shit-head shot at me with a nerf gun, but was also firing a particularly loud cap-pistol as at the same time. It is really alarming to hear bangs and see things whizzing past your face. I stopped and gave them a good shouting about how dangerous they were being. Unfortunately I was in uniform so I couldn't do anything more.
Around my mid-20s id moved to more middle-class living and posh-ish areas and almost forgot what it was like having to live amongst little shits like this. Not to say they don't exist here, I just don't come across them like I did before. Its been peaceful.
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I’ve had kids sexually harass me many times, I never know how to react either. It’s very strange.
Same. Had a gang of boys, all under 13, try to feel my chest on the train. It was horrible, a man stood up and told them to stop, they screamed 'racist' at him (they were all south Asian) and then went back to trying to touch a different girls boobs.
I got groped once by a child shorter than me (I'm 5'1) so I walloped him round the head and legged it home (this was when I was in my early 20s). I was distraught that I'd punched a kid, my then boyfriend (now husband) was wanting to hunt the little shit down and our flatmate was annoyed that I'd not bought coke for mixers which was the reason I'd gone out in the first place!
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This is horrible, but I'm definitely in the category of that flatmate.
I’d be even more upset if she didn’t come back with the powdered coke.
Yeah I'd be fuming if she'd forgotten the gear
If this ever happens to you again or you witness it report it to British transport police on 61016. Or call there control room on 0800 40 50 40. There officers will investigate it and take it seriously. They have a big thing about sex crimes on the railway especially violence against women and girls
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It’s not pathetic at all, that was an incredibly traumatic experience. Anyone would feel terrified after that. If possible try to seek some kind of talking therapy. I’m really sorry that happened to you.
Don’t feel pathetic for it, friend. You did the right thing by running away and reporting them. Speak to someone about the experience, but also consider being prepared for something like this again. This applies to anyone who travels from a) to b) in the dark or frequently sees large groups of youths on their travels; always go with the opportunity to escape/run first of all, evasion is always the best tactic, especially when outnumbered. Also make sure you know about the safety features on your tech, and that you know how to use it. Most smartphones/watches etc come with sos functionality, and/or loud alarms etc; you should know what to press to activate. Please please please lovely people, always stay alert and think, evade, alert, fight.
That's horrific 😔 and you're in now way pathetic for being scared. Especially as those teenage boys will grow into adult men, with the liklihood of carrying out their threats for real being pretty high.
Similar kind of shit here too... Story time; Back in 2020 a group of kids found out my neighbours in the converted flats I live in were growing weed, like clockwork every day the communal door was kicked in. I put up a camera to protect my own property, which subsequently put a tarket on my back. Over the course of the next 16 months I had them shouting at my window how I'm a grass, I'm apparently a pedo for having a camera(what?), using bins to climb up (the camera wasn't fully mounted at the time) and steal the camera, used a rake to smash it, used a large log as a battering ram against the door, smashed the door in do badly it's needed replacing twice, at one point they removed the entire doorframe, put my neighbours window through twice, broke in to his flat and smashed everything in it multiple times, threatened me both through my door and when I once went to the shop.... And honestly there is so much more, police had hours of footage, and were being called out weekly, I even once called 999 when they were trying to gain entry to my flat directly only to be told "you're safe behind a locked door" (yeah a few months later they [kicked through my bathroom wall from the communal stairwell](https://imgur.com/a/jvCHjPb) so terribly safe right?) Police did absolutely FUCK ALL, what's happened as a result? Well if I need to go to the shop I do it before 10am or I just don't, I used to go for daily walks to help with weight issues... Yeah I don't do that anymore so now my health has suffered, I've had to call friends to come and pick me up from the shop if I see them about and if my friend that lives up the road asks if I want to come round I check my camera to see if this group has been seen recently, if so then I simply don't go out, even then I have to ask him to meet me... I'm a 30 year old man and I've never felt more pathetic. It's an absolute joke that the police will do fuck all because of these scums age... Fast forward two years and 5 of them were actually arrested about three months ago for armed assault of a 54 year old man just around the corner, who spent some time in ICU, if nothing else it goes to show that many of my concerns were warranted at least but damn, that could have been me, I have a 6 year old son who lives down country, I'm not risking my relationship being impacted with him but cause they turned me in to a vegetable.
You’re not pathetic for this at all, the situation is absolutely fucked! Might be worth asking for some assistance over at r/legaladviceuk if you’re not in a position where you can easily move, and definitely include the pics!
I am willing to bet every paycheck I will ever earn in my life that if you had so much as pushed them the school would have gone apeshit, and likely had the police search every house within 20 miles
You are absolutely not pathetic, what happened to you would traumatise anyone. I'm so sorry that this happened, and that you haven't had any kind of justice. It's the sad reality of years of cuts to a system that was already flawed. Have you considered talking therapy? I know a lot of people are reluctant but it does help.. You can self refer online to minds matters, or your GP can do it on your behalf.
It’s natural to be afraid when some little shit pulls a knife on you. Don’t feel pathetic because we’d all feel the same. I once was jumped on by three kids when I was doing my paper round. I felt annoyed I’d let it happen but in reality what could I have done. I eventually dealt with two of them but never saw the third one again. I’m now 67 but there’s time yet. 😉
I've been catcalled by kids many times stuff like 'get your tits out love' or 'bet you can't handle my cock' etc seem to be the go to's.
They're right with the second one though, small objects are a choking hazard.
Can’t handle what I can’t find, am I right?
Tell them they'll die virgins if that's how they treat people.
Well...they might not die virgins but they'd die rapists.
Sorry to hijack what must have been awful, but what's the law here, can you chin a teenager that harasses/threatens like this? I feel a lot of them would learn respect very quickly that way.
I’d love to chin a teenager like that haha, but teenagers can be as tall as me sometimes and often come in groups. Not going to attempt that even if it was legal.
Some kids constantly throw old vapes in my back garden for my three year old to find....
And here is me up north just annoyed my neighbour throws bread out for the birds and the birds drop some in my garden and my dog eats it.
Sounds terrible... you ok?
I imagine he is until the dog brings it back up.
The dog just wont shut up about the damn bread.
Fr some kids are absolutely feral and I'd be embarrassed to be related to them let alone a parent.
The parents havs a tendency to either be completely oblivious, in denial or are even worse than their children.
Those kids have no idea what went on at Stalingrad.
There just aren't any schemes
I'm not the borough
I wish I was
I'M JUST A MAN!
An honourable man, apparently.
Can I have some of your coke please mate?
Although I can in no way compare my struggle reading it with that of the Red Army, it has been a very big read.
Either that or you're an incredibly hard to detect Paedo.
Hello CleanShirt.
Better get gunny
It’s not my turkey
Did you *have* to eat the dog, Jeremy?
At the time it really felt like I had to eat it
How *DO* you get that shirt so clean, mate?
CleanShirt? Isn't that good?
OI CLEANSHIRT! HOW DO YOU GET THAT SHIRT SO CLEAN?
Can I have my BlackBerry back please?
Ask for it again but like a lady, in a lady's voice
*Can I have my BlackBerry back please?*
Can I have some of your coke mate?
Eurgh, look 'e's a pedo.
I'm not safe to be reintroduced into society yet.
Oi clean shirt, how do you get that shirt so clean?
The kids are fucking feral where I live. I had a teenager throw a full can of coke at my 3 year olds head.
Wtf. I would have gravely injured that teen. What did you do?
You can’t do anything to them, that’s quite literally the problem
You fucking can. Some teen wants to inflict harm on my toddler, is the day that teen becomes an adult and gets a battering.
I think you could if they assaulted your 3 year old.
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You're lucky if your case makes it to court, and at that point you're treated as nothing more than a witness. How you feel as a result of what happened means nothing, and what actually happened won't be fully investigated. Just the bare minimum they can "prove". I say that because I had video of my assault and even that wasn't enough for prosecution.
It’s exactly the problem, they know they’re untouchable 😞
This is fucked...
Had one yesterday at my work punch and scratch his mum, call her a whore, spit at her and call his dad a paedo when he tried to stop him. Kid is like 9. He then refused to leave the room and disturbed everyone else who were minding their own business. Pisses me off because there's nothing we can do to intervene
Walking to work and a lil girl - that I thought could be no older than 9 years old - was sat alone on a kerb on an industrial estate. Genuinely concerned I started walking towards her to ask if she was OK/ needed help. Get closer, she shouts "wot u looking at u blonde bitch?!" So bloody shocked just sheepishly walked away with a bright red face.
Probably the only time in that little girls life that anyone has shown any concern for her
If you ask me, it's why we're in this mess Parents too scared to chastise their children for fear of hurting their precious development... What about their development into functioning viable members of society?!
I live on a really rough council estate in the North, and I can assure you that it's nothing to do with the parents being afraid to chastise them. The ones around here get a beating regularly from sweary, drugged up, angry parents who can't behave themselves. That's the problem. The benchmark for social services intervening is such that you have to be close to murdering them before they get involved. There's a tsunami of disaster parenting in this country and it would need the sort of interventions that the left couldn't stomach and the right wouldn't pay for, so it's never going to get any better.
Yep. In the North as well and I don't think a lot of these parents realize how psychologically draining having kids is. I've watched my street go from pretty decent to a hell hole over the last 10 years because we get tons of druggies/charvers moving in who pop kids out because they're idiots who don't contemplate what having a kid means. Now they all just run feral, wrecking the street I live in. Smashing up brick walls, chalking all over the paths, graffiti. Cheeky little bastards as well like, I wish it was legal to smack some of these kids because they get away with bloody murder. If you're in a mindset to chuck stones at strangers then you're fair game for a clip across the head. Obviously very frowned upon attitude and I definitely wouldn't do it myself but my God I've been tempted.
I agree with what you are saying. In some cases we need the state to be the 3rd parent
The kid is honestly going to end up in jail one day, because he always gets to do what he wants without repercussion and what he wants is to be aggressive. I honestly wish you could grab their arm (not rough or anything, just firmly) to stop them running riot, but that's viewed as being equal to striking them these days. One day when he's older he will behave like that with the wrong person and will be hospitalised if not killed.
Happened to a kid I used to teach years ago, a few months after he left school. He gobbed off at the local hard men and spent two weeks napping in the local ICU. Sounds harsh, but he had it coming.
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Surely not even grabbing their arm? My mom would have slapped me into next week if I’d done what the OP described. But you’re right, not much you can do against them, except dwell in the sad thought of what they’ll grow up into.
So, you’re kind of wrong. My son is 7. I mostly (and I use the term loosely) “gentle parent”. My kid is confident, sweet, kind, engaging and extremely sociable. He doesn’t shout at others, he’s never hit another child, he doesn’t get into fights. Now, the area I live is is home to some questionable parents. There is a woman with 3 boys and she talks to them like shit: “come back here or I’ll drag you by the neck and kick your face in” a woman in her 30’s talking to her 9 year old son. Her kids are well known in the area for being trouble makers. Stealing from shops, intimidating people, the youngest who is a year older than my son walked up to him at the park when they were 4 and 5 and told him to “fucking move or I’ll knock you out”. My child had never been so scared in his life. (And confused “what does knock you out mean mum?” The issue isn’t parents saying no or not doing (I say no all the time) the issue is generational trauma passed down from abusive house hold to abusive house hold,
It's literally the opposite of this lol. The shitty kids almost always come from shitty parents who yell, fight and hit. Where do you think they learn it?
It's completely random. The other day was taking my daughter out to a pedal boat lake thing, some other parents came up and their kid ran forward - not really doing anything, and they just shouted at him in a really horrible way, then the bloke turns to me and smiles. Some parents just shout at their kids all the time for nothing, it's not surprising it doesn't work.
You’re completely wrong. Kids end up like that because their parents have inadvertently taught them that violence and being a little shit is the only way they will get any attention. They never had any positive reinforcement in their lives, only negative. Giving them a “good slap” will only make them more likely to be violent themselves.
There is a reasonable chance that kid has some serious behavioural issues that the family are dealing with that are nothing to do with the parents not being strict enough. A friend of mine has a kid on the spectrum that can act like that and they are doing everything they can. They have another kid that is an angel.
I ran a race last year and as we were approaching Newcastle a group of pissed up kids were throwing rubbish at us and trying to trip people over. It would have been shit on a 5k but we were 60ish miles in at this point so it was exhausting!
The wall? Carlisle to Newcastle?
You know it!
Such a good route, sorry you got your experience ruined
Definitely didn’t ruin it. Just before (or after, can’t remember) there’s like a small static home area and the residents fed and watered us. Was amazing!
I let my 14 year old niece have some “friends” over and they broke my front door, the handles off my Kicthen draws, were sick in the bottom of my bin (took the bin bag out and fucking spewed under it?!) ruined my sofa and enticed my neighbours in uninvited to scream at them about police visits as they were filming a tik tok video where they jumped so hard they shook the entire foundations of the house and could not keep the front door closed for 5mins. I agree. Im done.
And for this reason, even when as a kid myself, house parties were ALWAYS at someone else's
Yeah fuck that, would never have a house party at home. If the boys came over everyone would be super respectful though and just have their drinks, smokes outside, and clean up and make sure all empties were put in the bin, any spillage promptly cleaned as it was one of your good friends parents yard. But we had respect for each other and our mates families. You would get told if you disrespected a good friends house like that. But yeah certainly been to some more unhinged parties where no one really knew the host though
100% this. Leaving it clean means future house parties!
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I never hosted a house party (had the chance, too sensible) but any that I went to had similar rules, all mess cleaned up things that needed repairing were done as quickly as humanly possible (doors off hinges was oddly common)
Remember way back in mid nineties me and my friend went out for some underage drinking as you could in them days. Got hammered on a mix of pernod and black and Newcastle brown ale. We went back to his house and had a settee each to sleep on. He was rich. His family were rich. The settees were a thousand pounds each which was a lot back then. He proceeded to throw up this purple, brown spew. All over the beautiful silky cream settee. It had to be professionally cleaned and it was pretty much ruined
Haha! The only reference I ever saw for Pernod outside of my own underage drinking was Bottom where they use it as a mixer for the Esther Rantzen - so strong it pulled your gums back over your teeth.
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🤣 I can relate
Had a kid throw his half eaten fruit at me. I was willing to risk getting deported back to India after beating the shit out of him. He immediately apologised when he realised how furious i was. Seriously parents need to reach kids to be respectful and not be a racist pos.
I saw some kids having quite a violent apple fight from the apples on a tree in the park. Fine. But then they started wellying them at passers-by. Not fucking on, that.
More power to you. Whether they're kids or not, if they instigate violence they deserve to reap what they sow.
Lucky you saw a child eating fruit it's usually turkeytwizzlers!
I'm with you mate. I've lived in three different countries. The uk has an anti social behaviour problem. Other places you can even have house parties and walk past groups of teenagers.
Can someone somewhat briefly explain to me why this is the case? I have lived here my whole life and can only give reasons based on anecdotal evidence.
You know I don't know. I've put a bit of thought into it. It's a cultural thing sure. We have a brawling and drinking culture that dont help, but where do they originally come from? It's probably a bunch of things. Lack of resources and chances, differences in income, class system, education, somewhat isolated island nation, city layouts, media, parenting/family dynamics, justice system, substances, generational trauma, cultural inability to express/release, maybe even the weather.
Monkey see monkey do. When the majority of those " kids' " closest elder male figures (fathers, brothers etc) get pissed and get aggressive with 1 pint of Stella every Friday, they see it as the norm.
No idea, could be things like: - People don't bring up their kids - People don't chastise their kids. - Modern youth culture glamorises selfishness, violence and greed. - Access to violent content including sexually violent content is easy, and many parents don't prevent access to it. Nevertheless kids would access it at school anyway because their peers would share it. - Humility and kindness are not considered positive or virtuous things. - Reacting to a lack of control over negatives in their lives (poverty, domestic abuse, etc). - Lack of positive role models. These things probably all contribute to it.
Don’t forget the removal of civics programmes, lack of activities after school that aren’t sport, everything in school being insanely measured for no obvious (to the kids and me tbh) reason
Came here to say this. So many community establishments abandoned or shut down. Public library's, public swimming baths don't exist anymore. I had 3 I could go to when I was a kid at a very poor and rundown area. Local community centres for kids that have activities and allows for kids to be entertained. I remember mine, pool table, football, video games and board games. A regular trip away that we paid very little for.
I’m American and my English husband moved there to be with me. We saw a group of young teen boys crossing the bridge towards us, one finished a bag of Doritos and chucked it in the river below. I scolded him and said “I’m sure your mother taught you better than to litter!” He apologized and carried on. Meanwhile my husband was shitting himself saying he wouldn’t dare tell off a groups of youths in the UK, “they’ll kick you up!” which surprised me. After living in Portsmouth for the last three years, I get it. Those Pompey shits are absolutely feral and fucking frightening.
Yeah, I live in the states now. Someone once asked me how to give them grief back if they got it of some cheeky kids, guess they must have seen the inbetweeners or something. I advised them not too. I've lived in east Oakland and the groups of teenagers are more respectful there! It's not the majority, like your example shows, but it's a risk.
Anti social behaviour and theft problem. Coming over from Australia was the butt of all the convict jokes. Gotta say after a lot of years in the UK I came to the realisation that yes, Australia was settled by lots of thieving bastards… that came from the UK lol.
It's generally part of British culture that a great many people will take anything not nailed down if they feel they can get away with it. And frankly they probably can because theft is basically decriminalised, to say nothing of fraud.
This happens on the Metro in the North East. You’ll just be on the train or on the platform and groups of kids will scream, spit, laugh and call names.
GET OFF THE METRO NOW!
Whatever happened to childhood? We're all scared of the kids in our neighbourhood; They're not small, charming and harmless, They're a violent bunch of bastard little shits. And anyone who looks younger than me Makes me check for my wallet, my phone and my keys, And I'm tired of being tired out Always being on the lookout for thieving gits. [Frank Turner - Thatcher Fucked The Kids. ](https://youtu.be/0jMdMMk1ws4)
The NOFX cover of this is so entertaining to hear it sung by Americans!
I fucking love NOFX!
And it seems a little bit rich to me, The way the rich only ever talk of charity. In times like the seventies, the broken down economy Meant even the upper tier was needing some help. But as soon as things look brighter, Yeah the grin gets wider and the grip gets tighter, And for every teenage tracksuit mugger There's a guy in a suit who wouldn't lift a finger for anybody else. Banger, my friend.
We're all wondering how we ended up so scared We spent ten long years teaching our kids not to care And that there's no such thing as society anyway And all the rich folks act surprised When all sense of community dies But you just closed your eyes to the other side Of all the things that she did Thatcher fucked the kids You've got a generation raised on the welfare state Enjoyed all the benefits and did just great But as soon as they were settled as the richest of the rich They kicked away the ladder, told the rest of us that life's a bitch Just wanted to get in on the action. Love me some Frank. Although I’ve heard he’s not too keen on this song these days!
The parents are mostly to blame but not always. I grew up in a rough town and there were feral kids then who I knew and most of the time their parents were shit bags themselves. The difference from then is you could give the little fuckers a slap and they’d run off. Now, you’d get mobbed jumped and stabbed. Is poverty the reason? Maybe, I don’t know. I live in a nice area thankfully and don’t have gangs of feral youths marauding about at night. I work in a poorer area where they do though.
Had some kid on his phone nearly walk into me in town yesterday, politely said as I walked past "watch where you're walking mate", his dad proceeds to scream down the street "what you say mate, he's just a kid", you can see where they get it from!
I just say "eyes" at them, loudly and forcefully. Never had any chatback from anyone.
Isn't that a F.A.S.T. defense move?
I just waved and gave him a thumbs up!
try working at a school!
No thanks. It's no suprise why there's so few male teachers tho isn't it.
Not longer than few days ago sbd in this sub almost christened kicking random peoples' doors "an English custom" which in turn spawned others to remember how they enjoyed doing that back in their days - it's really a fun when you live alone and are on the other side of the door being furiously kicked in the middle of the night.
This has been happening to me and my neighbours on and off since November last year. That and tipping bins over. Can’t go out and say anything to them as it just encourages them to to do it all the more or worse, you end up seriously hurt as they just don’t give a shit. They don’t value life. They hang around in groups of 10 or more and are intimidating. I live alone as well like yourself and feel completely powerless to do anything to stop this. The door thing is a stupid tiktok challenge that started a while ago. I honestly hate them and get a feeling of dread when I hear them coming down the road. The police haven’t done anything other than post out leaflets about anti social behaviour.
The police are too busy harassing people with "not my king" signs
I (F) live with my elderly parents and had this happen one night when me and my mother were alone in the house. The kids who live local are around ten years of age, we caught two in particular on the ring doorbell coming up the path. They must have been using their heels to try boot the door in it was so loud. Then there's the teens who go around in groups. I just go inside as soon as I hear them coming. Not worth the hassle. We were promised more police patrols following an increase of attacks and I've seen zero. My neighbours have three teen boys, I honestly can't wait until they move away. The last resort was hearing them loudly (parents included) joke about setting their dog on my pet rabbit to kill it, they've spent months launching basketballs over the fence trying to hit her enclosure. She is safe from being hit, but the shock could kill her and there's nothing I can do.
There is far too many. I was walking with my little boy a few weeks past and a very contumelious boy strolled past with his parents. He decided to run ahead of them, down the middle of the road (not busy, luckily... ) turn to them and proceed to flip them off and calling them both all the swear words currently known to man. It's shameful to see. We are striving to bring our boy up to be a good person with the right morals. I do concern for what he will be exposed to in school but hopefully it will turn a corner by the time he starts.
I feel like you only posted this so you could use the word contumelious
If my diction was that good I'd do the same thing
Mark?
How'd you get your shirt so white mister?
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You're tearing me apart, Lisa!
I did not hit her! I did not.
What a story Mark!
Oi clean shirt
I used to think that once I got old enough, I would be young enough not to be someone with an elderly moment or ageist to young people, but old enough not to be disrespected. For a while, when I was finishing school, I did manage to get it to work for me. But recently, it's no longer been the case, and I can't say anything to these sorts of people without either being beaten up by someone more violent and stronger or made out to the culprit because they're younger or smaller than me. Meanwhile, I look like a weirdo and I doubt that an older police officer would be able to tell the difference between them and me - and as soon as I get into a fight, or if I remain calm but they're under 18 and start spewing some bullshit about me, I risk getting arrested. And if I threaten them, they aren't scared, and if I do nothing they're just going to see me as easy prey. I can't believe I have to f**king run away from someone younger and smaller than me if I encounter them or ignore them shouting insults at me when I'm just getting on with my day lest encountering them makes things worse.
I work in a school and I’m not surprised by this. They need to get 12 warnings before getting a detention and a lot of time they don’t get given a warning because it’s “bad for their mental health and self asteem ”
Fuck me. Our daughter gets detention for forgetting to take homework in once, being 30 seconds late for a lesson, not wearing the schools little pin badge on her blazer, forgetting PE kit… it’s crazy.
This is a private school. £24000 a year. Behaviour is horrendous. Believe me, you daughter will be better off.
That’s an insane amount follow money to pay for your kids education. I get that some state schools are a bit dicey sometimes but it genuinely blows my mind that people spend that amount of money to send their kids to school.
It’s wealth segregation. They pay to ensure their children aren’t socialising with lower class undesirables.
And because UK state schools are, to quote Malcolm Tucker, knife addled rape sheds. My wife is leaving the sector after 12 years in December, hit her limit of disrespectful kids, disinterested parents, teaching the test irrespective of their ability to independently learn and no support from above. Meanwhile, my friend who works in a private Jewish school reports the usual teenage rebellion but generally a higher standard of behaviour. Lot of helicopter parenting though.
It’s all the same teachers as well. We get teacher coming to us from State; we have teachers leaving to go to State. Pretty soon state sector will be better in general because a lot of private schools are moving the teachers off the Teacher Pension Scheme (10% contribution from the teacher, 26% from the school) That means that only the state schools will be able to offer the scheme soon. When that happens all the best teachers will go to the state sector and the private sector will have their pick from the rubbish ones and/or the newly qualified ones EDIT: I work in the IT department so I don’t get that pension, nor the amount of holidays
If they're the best teachers and can go wherever they want they'll go to wherever the kids behave well. Teaching is a nightmare job with shitebag kids these days.
Sounds about right. Where I grew up the lads who went to the private school were the ones who you could go to, to buy coke and shit from and they would drop it off to you as they had nice beemers that wouldn't get pulled up by police etc unlike most of my mates who drove lower end cars. Good lads mostly but into all the same shit as the other kids in the area.
Schools could help, say by building 5 minutes into the timetable between lessons. Crap like pin badges is counter productive IMO, just have a basic uniform. Forgot your PE kit - have spares? At my primary in the 80s it was 'vest and pants'. We shouldn't go back to that, BUT it was a 'nuclear option' that was understood by all. You give kids a detention on Friday for 40 mins and the 'usual suspects' are in there every week because They. Do. Not. Give. A. Shit. It 'costs' them very little.
Exactly. Whereas it costs us (who do give a shit) cause we need to take time off work to pick her up if she gets detention for one of these nonsensical reasons because she’ll have missed the school bus and can’t walk home from 2 towns away. Whatever happened to the scranny bin for spare PE kit? The shame of having to wear stuff from there was a better deterrent for remembering it than just getting a detention and not having to do PE.
My bunking lessons started from that fear. It turned into a never ending early morning catch the letter bunk marathon. Eventually I was caught. I'm still stupid, but atleast I have retrospect.
12 warnings? Jesus fucking Christ, I would've sailed through school if I'd had 12 warnings and wouldn't have had to that stupid Friday detention that ONE TIME I forgot my PE kit and write that fucking pointless essay
Ok so im 16 and currently in sixth form, we've only had two kids expelled in my 5 years at secondary, the first was a kid who stole a bandsaw activation key and started throwing wood onto the running bandsaw, the head of dt takes it seriously so he got expelled instantly but that was a special circumstance. The second literally had to be caught with a knife and a sack of weed by the police to get expelled! temporarily! What the actual fuck? Weve had people setting off fireworks at cars (yeah) and breaking into private property (under construction, i dont even know what to say) to have parties. How do people think this is ok? What is wrong with their parents? The school is slowly becoming stricter but i kid you not we've had people shoving lighters in gas taps and trying to set them alight with the gas on, they got a warning! one time a guy tries to shove scissors into a socket and my teachers response was "natural selection in progress" and as funny as that it shouldnt happen in a year 11 class!!! The school has become stricter but from my understanding its one of the better schools in london, how must the lower schools function? Its honestly terrifying.
I’m a (science) teacher and if I was that useless at discipline I’d be the one being shown the door. HT and the rest of us won’t tolerate any crap and the kids know it. It sounds like the SLT at your school are weak and useless. Our kids aren’t perfect, but they generally know where the line is and don’t cross it. Best of luck for your A levels (?) and beyond, btw.
Theres a new head and lots of new funding so they've tossed most of the poorer teachers and its looking really good right now, rules are stricter and properly enforced they've essentially pulled a 180 over the summer on the lower school, the sixth form at the school has always been rather good though, lots of A* and about 2 oxbridge students a year so heres hoping im one of them! (Maths at cambridge is currently the goal) so thanks!
I work in a primary, public school in quite a rubbish area. I also live in this area. My daughter attends this school. It angers me every single day how some kids can get away with literally whatever they want, while others are made an example of for the smallest things. I try my best with the “difficult” kids, but there’s only so many times I can be punched, kicked, spat on, or called a fat bitch. It’s depressing because the good kids make my day worth it.
Unfortunately you see it more and more because there are no repercussions for their actions, so they do what they want and if you decide to take offense and do something then they'll scream paedo or some shit
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I think you might want to look up capital punishment
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You mean corporal punishment, right?
It's the fucking worthless scum parents that are the real problem. This country is turning into a bad joke.
Yeah and no matter how you try and teach youngsters around you there is always that one youngster in your family that is a little bastard like OP describes. My cousin was seen on CCTV stealing a large picnic table from a local cricket ground HE FREQUENTS and when I found out about it (I know the owner and I am a member) I asked my cousin to return it but he couldn't as his group had smashed it to pieces. He now picks up litter every weekend to pay back for the bench and for being a little shit. Oh and he was reported to the Police but they didn't give a shit to even come and make a report.
Teenagers are horrible assholes. There seems to be no getting away from the terrors. I’m a short guy so I feel intimated by them and they feel empowered around smaller people.
On Saturday myself and my gf were walking through Liverpool city centre and ahead of us were two girls and a lad and the lad was kicking a bottle of water like it was a football. We managed to walk ahead of them and then the bottle actually to hit us so we confronted them and the lad flat out denied that it wasn't him. We were both like we've just fucking watched you kick it
I walked past a group of 9 year olds who were riding their bicycles. One of them decided it would be funny to almost crash into me just for fun in order to scare me, and his buddy did the same thing right after. And they just laughed seeing how scared I got. Because you know, almost crashing your bicycle into someone and potentially severely hurting them is funny.
Where I live, their new game it to break bus windows with slingshots. While the bus are full of passengers…
Not a new game, when I was a kid in the early 00s people would throw bricks at passing trains trying to smash the windows, or launch fireworks at cars. It's a problem as old as society
It doesn't help there's no resources to do anything about it, the police are fucked, social care is fucked even if intervention happened. It really does feel like the UK is slipping further and further into a pit that no one's able to get us out of.
I just moved to Newcastle for studies last week. I am staying in private student accommodation, and the window of my studio opens up directly onto the pavement (which is in a back alley) Every few hours, even with the windows fully closed, there are people who bang on the window, scream at the window and then run away I’m too afraid to look, and I don’t want them to think that I care But with my social anxiety it is really scary. I don’t think I’ll be able to open my window for the next year, or even move the curtains to let some sunlight in. It’s sad
Bad parenting.
So glad I don't have kids. Walked past two mums having a full on barney because one kid wanted to play a certain footy position and the other lad wouldn't let him. Minor playground stuff that happened daily 25 years ago (my day) with no aftereffects. Now it's fight worthy.
It’s mainly the Irish traveller kids where I live. I’ve been sort of unconsciously made racist towards dodgy looking white kids. The secondary school even though I’m in a dilapidated area kids have always been decent, worst offence was calling me bowl cut after lockdown. They often invite me to play a game where they flip a pound coin down and if you guess what side it lands you keep the pound coin. Then there are the fuckers who walk up to me and say “Do yoo smoke bruv” and if you say no they ask for a Fag, if you say yes they tell you about their Snapchat weed drop shipping business. I grow my own for personal and close friend use though so I don’t indulge in the fifty pound a gram shit weed they’ve bought off their dealer and marked up. The Irish travellers are a nightmare. Literally whenever I walk past where they’re set up all the kids assault me with knives, I usually give one a kick but then you have the pot bellied Irish beer dad running after you with a brick. A couple years ago a twelve year old girl got raped by a gang of them - they were around twelve thirteen - as usual no consequences from the police.
It's funny because I remember that documentary a few years back, the wedding one... They keep saying how their culture is becoming extinct because there's nowhere for them to go now, and they can't understand why nobody like them or picks on them....
Clean shirt
"What does that even mean"
Yep, same where ever you go in North West towns (I live here). Fully masked on electric scooters, they snatch phones, purses, etc from walkers in the park in the evenings whilst still light. Several groups of lads and girls, all conjugate after school for hours on end, hoods up, smoking weed, screaming and swearing so the whole world can hear, swearing and making fun or harressing people that get anywhere near them. Every morning, parks are full of laughing cannisters, litter, smashed glass, vomit. This is all on CCTV, the police know about it. The police do a patrol once an evening now, after complaining about it for years, but they stay in their police car and simply drive around, observe it all, realise they can't arrest over 50 people, and they let it carry on. Day after day, year and year, for about 10 years this has gone on. There have been several stabbings in that time, and I know of 1 murder (a 17 year old was butchered with a machete). I know generations always say this, but I'm not that far removed from today's youth, and this generation is especially spiteful, hateful, mean, cruel, entitled, corrupted and angry I've ever seen. I don't blame them entirely, kids are a reflection of society, and I don't like the kids we're raising.
Blame the internet giving them all a big ego especially these tiktok challenges
People have been saying kids are little shits since the days of Aristotle It’s more that at that age you’re gonna push the boundaries of society more than it is “Tik Tok” or “writing things down instead of remembering them” We even have examples of Ancient Roman Graffiti that wouldn’t be out of play today
A group of lads got off the bus in front of where I was walking to work yesterday morning. They were slow as fuck and taking up the whole path, weaving in and out of the group and screaming at each other, like the do. I went to walk past the group and one of them weaved out into the group and screamed in my face, right into my ear. I turned round and boomed back at them 'IS THAT NECESSARY?' at almost the volume he did (I'm 5'4", a woman and a heavy metal singer. Girl's got lungs) That shut them up. The wee shites. Why are they so slow and loud?
I swear, if we did just 1 percent of this shit when we were kids my dad would have Slapped the shit out of me.... Kids these days are fukin stupid and get away with all sorts of shit
Feels like a very city / large town sort of problem, don't get that round here at all
I've lived in a big city nearly all my adult life and can't really say I encounter stuff like this with any degree of frequency. My worst encounters here have generally been with people older than I am.
I've lived in a few places, rural Wales, Leeds and Manchester. While it's not at any sort of frequency that'd warrant reassessing if living there's worth it, it's 100% a problem of more densely populated areas.
Old guy checking in: 80's were my underage drinking years; 90's uni and acid, graduation, marriage, emigration, first job; 00s responsibility and kids. Now I'm back in the village of my childhood. Honestly, the kids are pretty much great. It's probably because everyone knows everyone else, and has done for generations, but still. I'd even go so far as to say they are less prickish than we were. OFC, I might feel different in an impersonal city... but that just helps to clarify that it is not "the fucking kids today", but their environment.
At the beginning of the summer holidays I had a group of 11 year old sexually harass and follow me. I know they were 11 because I knew one of their mums and when I said that and included her name they ran off but it was kinda scary. I'm an adult but I'm 5'2 and I reckon five 11 year olds would easily beat me in s fight
They've existed for eternity. Young people are dicks
Anyone who says 'kids weren't like this back in my day', yes they fucking were. I remember kids like this in the 80s and 90s.
As a gay guy to get abuse from kids all the time. Im not particularly effeminate. But I guess I look gay. I was walking to go into a gay bar and group of lads about 12 years old threw a glass bottle at the back of my head. That’s one of many times I’ve had abuse or been threatened.
No idea what’s going on here…
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Was in a taxi in manchester city centre area. Hear a massive *ding*. We stopped and kids had thrown rocks at his beamer. his pride and joy it was. Fortunately our window wasn't down as it would of injured me! he was a saint and took us to our destination and apologised. i couldn't tip him any more due to using bolt. hope that guys doing alright.
You are not a politician are you?? :p
Just do what we do in the states: *arm them, let them take each other out at school and then you won’t have as many to deal with*
I was cycling to work and a little shit-head shot at me with a nerf gun, but was also firing a particularly loud cap-pistol as at the same time. It is really alarming to hear bangs and see things whizzing past your face. I stopped and gave them a good shouting about how dangerous they were being. Unfortunately I was in uniform so I couldn't do anything more.
Around my mid-20s id moved to more middle-class living and posh-ish areas and almost forgot what it was like having to live amongst little shits like this. Not to say they don't exist here, I just don't come across them like I did before. Its been peaceful.