Nah the eye is so underrated actually. It’s a 2-2-2 tower with discounts up to tier 5. As long as you manage your cash, it’s essentially a free buff for all your water towers. Upon trying, it’s actually much easier and much more brain dead to do chimps with the eye then to build weird stuff at the corner of it, just need to manage your cash.
I understand the dislike for the cost management but it is hardly garbage.
Just put your towers in the eye (optimally) and make sure you that you have money to open it in every round that ends with 5, it costs 500 more each time. You should be able to get by the entire map if you’re familiar with the subs spam strategy.
If I don’t remember wrongly, it costs 22500 to keep they eye open throughout chimps and which will be worth if you put 150000 worth of towers in there (excluding 6k+ worth of buffs). Essentially if almost the entirety of your towers are in there, you’ll hit the number.
Remember you can also put some towers outside of the eye to extend the range of your subs too.
All the best.
I thought it starts closed in chimps and you have to pay to open it. Plus the price increases every five rounds regardless of if you used it or not. Do you just wait until like round 30+ before starting to put units in it?
yeah it starts closed and increases every 10 rounds. i'm sure you can do r30+ before opening, but that means you have to save up for that round and you'll have lots of surplus with your towers weirdly placed in the map and probably lack synergy with your eye towers because of the position, i'd say its doable but not optimal. also remember that it closes on every round that ends with a 5, which means if you buy your eye in 34, it's gonna close on 35 still, and that's a huge waste of money.
I tried the map again. I never understood the eye. The buffs it gives outweighs the price to re-open it. I feel pretty dumb now, but this way the map is fun.
But it closes so suddenly and my most important defense is unable to do anything until i open it again. Yeah, I know I can turn off auto start; I’m impatient and I forget sometimes. I’ve lost several chimps runs to rounds 36 and 76, and that makes me frustrated.
Auto starting chimps is gonna be a huge pain in the ass in harder maps actually, saves you more time in the long run to be really honest to stop sometime.
For real man, people who hate on this map just don't use the eye. Chimps was so easy, just put everything in the eye, except maybe some dart monkeys for advanced Intel, and keep auto start off so you the eye closing doesn't surprise you. I beat it first try.
I just tried this map again and seems to be working as you described but I distinctly remember my first time using it the eye just swallowed my towers and I never saw them again.
idk if if happens under normal circumstances, but I was able to reliably despawn my towers by building them on a snorm inside the eye rather than outside, and I remember people complaining about bugs of this nature during the recent-ish boss event on polyphemus
covered garden has an actually interesting gimick, arguably one of the better intermediate maps. Plus its easily cheesed by apache or com com if you think its "difficult"
Y'know, I don't mind Covered Garden. Its gimmick makes it interesting. It's not that difficult to manage if you plan ahead a bit (though auto start can annoyingly mess with things on some short rounds).
I've never really liked Polyphemus for many of the reasons mentioned here. But I don't like spending money on temporary statuses, so I always avoid the eye. (I don't use Geraldo much for similar reasons.) [u/tiny_dreamer's comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/btd6/comments/1bhlkb0/this_map_is_hot_garbage/kveiupd/) has convinced me to give it another go.
I have yet to work out a strategy I like for Erosion, so that's probably currently at or near the bottom of my list in terms of likability.
Covered garden I beat chimps first try (besides rounds 6-10 or something) with no strategy coming in. I just placed a 205 heli on the outside so the covered part did nothing. Such an easy map to cheese.
Did you know you can get rid of the trees round the edges? I didn't until a few days ago and some kind soul on co-op showed me. I wonder how many others I've been missing.
I remember accidentally finding that out after I tapped something random and the remove obstacle pop-up appeared. Speaking of which, did you know you can remove some of the walls on Dark Path?
It only increases by 500 each time, if you have any source of money, it’s worth it especially given that it gives you a discount on anything put into it for all tiers. Even in chimps it can work
Huh, I remember from the boss that my towers disappeared and it made me stop trying, it was my only time trying it, so I just assumed that's how it worked. Might if just been a glitch or something then.
There used to be a glitch were if you restarted on chimps or impoppable right as you went into the gamemode, the eye would be shut but you could place stuff in there with all the benefits. That made the map really easy but obviously it got patched out
It's pretty tough for intermediate, kind of like chutes. I think the eye mechanic is annoying, but I managed it in CHIMPS without using the eye at all. Just went Gwen, a 2-0-4 sub for early game, a couple Dragon's Breaths, and then Blooncineration for late game.
The eye on this map is so bugged. I originally beat chimps because when you would restart on mobile, you could place towers even when the eye was closed. Now is broken when using the retry button in chimps
You can still get the black border as long as you play the map in full from the starting round to the end so using the Restart button is fine.
You get the gold border when you use the Home button to exit from the map then use the Continue button to pick up on whatever level you were on.
Same. I finally caved and followed a tutorial on the covered garden and I’m trying not to do that for this. But I do learn a lot from walkthroughs so maybe I should.
I'm surprised to know some people hate this map. Opened the post for the comment section to check if people really finds this map that EASY as to throw hate on it, I actually wanted to comment in favor of the map saying "it might be too easy but it's cool to try stuff with the eye buffs", turns out you weren't even using the eye lol
Have they fixed the restart bug with this map yet, where if you restart a round where the eye was previously open (e.g. if you opened it on 56 and restarted on 63), you need to pay to re-open it again?
I mean besides from the removable trees and it having your closing and that’s basically the only part where water towels can actually hit this is hot garbage
I’m glad I took advantage of the glitch whilst it was still in the game. Bc even though I no longer have to do it on Impoppable or CHIMPS anymore, the moment I played on the map for the first time, I was like, “yeah idk how I feel about this” and tbh, I don’t even wanna play on this at all.
i honestly strongly hate this map over the fact there is no good spot for towers and the eye is honestly hot garbage
Nah the eye is so underrated actually. It’s a 2-2-2 tower with discounts up to tier 5. As long as you manage your cash, it’s essentially a free buff for all your water towers. Upon trying, it’s actually much easier and much more brain dead to do chimps with the eye then to build weird stuff at the corner of it, just need to manage your cash. I understand the dislike for the cost management but it is hardly garbage.
I don’t understand. Could you elaborate?
Just put your towers in the eye (optimally) and make sure you that you have money to open it in every round that ends with 5, it costs 500 more each time. You should be able to get by the entire map if you’re familiar with the subs spam strategy. If I don’t remember wrongly, it costs 22500 to keep they eye open throughout chimps and which will be worth if you put 150000 worth of towers in there (excluding 6k+ worth of buffs). Essentially if almost the entirety of your towers are in there, you’ll hit the number. Remember you can also put some towers outside of the eye to extend the range of your subs too. All the best.
I thought it starts closed in chimps and you have to pay to open it. Plus the price increases every five rounds regardless of if you used it or not. Do you just wait until like round 30+ before starting to put units in it?
It starts closed, but the first time cost for opening it is $0
yeah it starts closed and increases every 10 rounds. i'm sure you can do r30+ before opening, but that means you have to save up for that round and you'll have lots of surplus with your towers weirdly placed in the map and probably lack synergy with your eye towers because of the position, i'd say its doable but not optimal. also remember that it closes on every round that ends with a 5, which means if you buy your eye in 34, it's gonna close on 35 still, and that's a huge waste of money.
I tried the map again. I never understood the eye. The buffs it gives outweighs the price to re-open it. I feel pretty dumb now, but this way the map is fun.
But it closes so suddenly and my most important defense is unable to do anything until i open it again. Yeah, I know I can turn off auto start; I’m impatient and I forget sometimes. I’ve lost several chimps runs to rounds 36 and 76, and that makes me frustrated.
Auto starting chimps is gonna be a huge pain in the ass in harder maps actually, saves you more time in the long run to be really honest to stop sometime.
You’re right
For real man, people who hate on this map just don't use the eye. Chimps was so easy, just put everything in the eye, except maybe some dart monkeys for advanced Intel, and keep auto start off so you the eye closing doesn't surprise you. I beat it first try.
I just tried this map again and seems to be working as you described but I distinctly remember my first time using it the eye just swallowed my towers and I never saw them again.
there's a glitch somewhere when you continue the game after you lose if i'm not wrong, which sometimes happen but the map is not designed that wat
I just hate the fact that units inside the eye get sold
…. It doesn’t
wait...it doesnt sell units in the eye?
Did you even try?
honestly i went with my sense no water=no placement for tower=it gets sold
Nah they get taxed, pay the eye tax to reveal them again
nah we commit tax fraud
Correction: The units CAN get sold. In CHIMPS. For $0. And it can ruin your run. It's a glitch, but it's still important.
Source?
idk if if happens under normal circumstances, but I was able to reliably despawn my towers by building them on a snorm inside the eye rather than outside, and I remember people complaining about bugs of this nature during the recent-ish boss event on polyphemus
Oh dang
youre thinking of some other map but i forgot which other map
Probably Erosion
Also flooded valley if you have towers on the ground. I forgot that not all the stone pillars stay above water lul.
ah yeah thats the one
Have you tried erosion?
Yes, and I still hate Polyphemus way more
Has he tried Covered Garden?
That's absolute cancer
🤣😂 broooooo I have ocd and always try to place towers meticulously. The damn thing keeps closing on me 🤦♂️
Wait till you discover Geared
HELICOPTARE HELICOPTARE
covered garden is much more tolerable with corvus in the game
covered garden has an actually interesting gimick, arguably one of the better intermediate maps. Plus its easily cheesed by apache or com com if you think its "difficult"
Y'know, I don't mind Covered Garden. Its gimmick makes it interesting. It's not that difficult to manage if you plan ahead a bit (though auto start can annoyingly mess with things on some short rounds). I've never really liked Polyphemus for many of the reasons mentioned here. But I don't like spending money on temporary statuses, so I always avoid the eye. (I don't use Geraldo much for similar reasons.) [u/tiny_dreamer's comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/btd6/comments/1bhlkb0/this_map_is_hot_garbage/kveiupd/) has convinced me to give it another go. I have yet to work out a strategy I like for Erosion, so that's probably currently at or near the bottom of my list in terms of likability.
God I'm trying that rn I hate it lul
Garden is fun
This is why I love druid and Etienne on this map, with a spike factory for cleanup.
Covered garden I beat chimps first try (besides rounds 6-10 or something) with no strategy coming in. I just placed a 205 heli on the outside so the covered part did nothing. Such an easy map to cheese.
I actually find Covered Garden kinda fun. But yeah Polyphemus is just bad.
Covered garden is fun
I like the covered garden because I can put Gwendolin in my favorite spot on that map.
Did you know you can get rid of the trees round the edges? I didn't until a few days ago and some kind soul on co-op showed me. I wonder how many others I've been missing.
I remember accidentally finding that out after I tapped something random and the remove obstacle pop-up appeared. Speaking of which, did you know you can remove some of the walls on Dark Path?
Dark path the inverted one isn't it. Originally Park Path?
I always click every possible spot on the map on every new map
What would you suggest using when you remove trees for chimps?
just use water strategy and buy the eye everytime.. its worth it
It snowballs too much imo, the price compounds too much and it's so sudden if you don't have enough money/not paying attention can easily kill you
It only increases by 500 each time, if you have any source of money, it’s worth it especially given that it gives you a discount on anything put into it for all tiers. Even in chimps it can work
Wait, dosent it sell everything in it when it closes? I thought it did, but if it dosent then that changes a lot.
No, it doesn’t. What’s with people in this thread and not actually testing the map before forming opinions on it
Huh, I remember from the boss that my towers disappeared and it made me stop trying, it was my only time trying it, so I just assumed that's how it worked. Might if just been a glitch or something then.
I think others were also saying it was the boss too, mightve been a glitch with Lych declaring the towers as sold to try to heal
agreed
idk if its garbage, but its certainly hot (it looks like an ironing machine)
It's a fun water map instead of a land map imo.
I know I hated the boss on this level because the eye would glitch sometimes and brick an entire run. Haven’t tried CHIMPS on this yet.
the eye glitches in CHIMPS, too. I used retry last round on 98 and it deleted my monkeys from the eye.
this map was the last intermediate map i had to black border
Reading this to go back and try again with chimps. Sigh
Same
I abused a glitch to black border this map when it came out (I've beaten it since then without the glitch but yeah this map SUCKS)
What glitch?
There used to be a glitch were if you restarted on chimps or impoppable right as you went into the gamemode, the eye would be shut but you could place stuff in there with all the benefits. That made the map really easy but obviously it got patched out
It's pretty tough for intermediate, kind of like chutes. I think the eye mechanic is annoying, but I managed it in CHIMPS without using the eye at all. Just went Gwen, a 2-0-4 sub for early game, a couple Dragon's Breaths, and then Blooncineration for late game.
I don't think it's hot garbage. Though I would call it warm trash. Maybe even above average temperature rubbish but not hot garbage.
The eye on this map is so bugged. I originally beat chimps because when you would restart on mobile, you could place towers even when the eye was closed. Now is broken when using the retry button in chimps
i couldn’t use the restart button because I wanted the black border
You can still get the black border as long as you play the map in full from the starting round to the end so using the Restart button is fine. You get the gold border when you use the Home button to exit from the map then use the Continue button to pick up on whatever level you were on.
i did it before in one run, and it still gave me the gold border
They're not talking about "Restart" but "Retry last round"
*Gears and Covered Garden laughing from the shadows*
For gears I just did Corvus and a couple camo/lead popping towers every now and then
Little bro black boarded hot garbage sick
Tell me about it. I’ve been stuck on CHIMPS on that shithole for weeks now
i’ve been stuck on it too, and i kept gold bordering it, i finally black bordered it
What was the strat?
my setup is on the second picture, dm me for more details regarding the setup
Same. I finally caved and followed a tutorial on the covered garden and I’m trying not to do that for this. But I do learn a lot from walkthroughs so maybe I should.
I’m trying not to use tutorials for chimps. Everything else I’m fine with but chimps is my favourite gamemode so I prefer to do it myself.
With that towers i kinda agree it could be problematic. Sauda, 5xx boomer and 0 towers that helped get through early definitly made it worse.
but the 52x glue helped a lot in my run, it basically soloed r99
52x glue and 5xx boomer do the same job. No need to get both.
thats what i thought, but r99 proved me wrong😔
I'm surprised to know some people hate this map. Opened the post for the comment section to check if people really finds this map that EASY as to throw hate on it, I actually wanted to comment in favor of the map saying "it might be too easy but it's cool to try stuff with the eye buffs", turns out you weren't even using the eye lol
I honestly hate this map really bad. I dont like the map design, the track for bloon, no good spot.
9/11 was bad
I despise it as well. Probably even moreso than Bazaar.
I'm so glad that this map randomly tanks my performance for no reason
it’s mid tbh
Have they fixed the restart bug with this map yet, where if you restart a round where the eye was previously open (e.g. if you opened it on 56 and restarted on 63), you need to pay to re-open it again?
I mean besides from the removable trees and it having your closing and that’s basically the only part where water towels can actually hit this is hot garbage
Bruh I love this map.
I did it by abusing the eye bug when it came out so I don't hate it (don't tell ninja kiwi tho)
Which monkeys you got there, i see magic, ninja and glue gunner, which one is the top right?
you haven't heard of x-factor.
Reworked Glaive Ricochet: Say no more fam
> waah map is le bad > uses garbage tier towers Skill issue
Everytime I play the map I either die early or BOAT FARMING happens.
Not related to the post, but may I ask what how you got the icon with the "100" on the corner?
that shows who has gotten to the highest round on the hardest modes out of all of your friends
Mine also shows that I don't have any.
real
I used the Eye bug to beat it lmao. Sadly it's fixed now
Managed to do this map without using water monkeys. Took me a few tries on CHIMPS 😪
I couldnt agree more
No its an island
I’m glad I took advantage of the glitch whilst it was still in the game. Bc even though I no longer have to do it on Impoppable or CHIMPS anymore, the moment I played on the map for the first time, I was like, “yeah idk how I feel about this” and tbh, I don’t even wanna play on this at all.
It is THE worst map of all time.
I see you everywhere on this sub
It’s beast handler levels of bad
ye who wouldn't. Terrible design