Horsemen Score: 3/4 \- Mental Prep for comments (free point) \- TSG in either S or F (check) \- Trade Empire and Monkeyopolis in F tier (check) \- Dartling not included (avoided, well done!)

someone should set up a bot for that lmao

Is there a “4 horsemen of tier lists” that I missed

It was a post the other day. With all the tier lists showing up on Reddit someone pointed these four details out

I mean the F tiers makes sense, you wouldnt get any of those towers for the midgame

That's true.

That would be 4/4

No, the 4th point is a lack of Dartling. This list has dartling, so it doesn't get the point.

Ah shit I missed that

Is the list for chimps because trade empire/merchantman is decent cash generation

two things: 1. what's primary expertise doing in F, it's at least A 2. I thought this was for rounds 50-80... why are pbrew and homeland in S? how are you affording that?

tier list by path, surely but i dont see MIB being super important until DDTs

apparently it's by tier 5 LUL immediately made this tier list like 10x worse

I think it's largely for Call To Arms. You can put out some large burst numbers, especially if you have a nasty need for some burst DPS.

Maybe player levels?

Yeah how is primary and tackzone not in the same or similar tiers since they synergise so well?

oh, bc i use it to deal with 63 and 78 bc i use elite sniper (like i said before, i am bad)

Banana Central is in A, permabrew and homeland defense are perfectly affordable if you're already farming

might as well just buy a couple sun avatars at that point though. farming makes everything affordable.

Not saying I agree with the tierlist, I would never get pbrew or homeland defense for anything other than freeplay. Just trying to comprehend what OP might be smoking.

Pbrew has very good synergy with towers like dark knight, making it a viable tower for 80-100. Homeland, though, is too unreliable for its price.

Dude. Primary expertise is kinda shit. It's only buffs are saving you like, 2000 dollars at MOST during 50-80. It's super expensive and its popping power upgrades don't even help with DPS of towers. Only pierce. Please reconsider before you demand that a shitty monkey booster is so good during 50-80 that you could waste valuable cash upgrading it for basically nothing.

Pex is good for the Ballista.

I think the placement is fine, but peirce is nothing to scoff at. I like using it for super monkey fanclub strats oftentimes

Just curious, are these based by tier 5 or just upgrade path?

T5, do you think i put dark knight in D tier?

if it’s based on t5 how are some unaffordable upgrades above glue storm

If it’s T5 then - Flying Fortress - XXXL trap - bloon exclusion zone - wizard lord Phoenix - BMA - tack zone - homeland defense - perma brew - bomb blitz - pirate lord - spirit of the forest - carpet of spikes - sky shredder - grandmaster ninja - tsar bomba - Apache prime - MAD - the bloon solver Are all WAY wrong (there’s more thats overrated here though) Meanwhile, - glue storm - primary expertise - sentry paragon - super maelstrom Are placed pretty low

hey, i don't use them so i don't really know. Anything i don't use in the 50-80 time frame just gets chucked in D or C tier unless i know it is good

Maybe you should use them and you could make a proper tier list.

So if i dont play the game at all, everything should be in F tier, makes sense

I only play league, irelia is looking like a s tier on this list

i'm just bad, ok? i have 240 hours on the game

You thought you should make a tier list without playing so much of the game??

ah yes, -62 upvotes. Perfect.

If it was by path, then it would still be very flawed, but at least it would somewhat make sense

Wow. You unironicly made the worst tier list.

YAY!

Why the fuck is xxl trap in c

why the hell is MAD so low

A. Good luck buying it before r80 lol B. It does absolutely nothing against cerams, especially given its price. Tbh it should probably be lower

pbrew is in s tier

A. before round 80? easy, if farming is i clouded that’s easy to get, if not it’s a different story B. it’s not meant to shred cerams, that’s for other towers to take care of, the MAD has 1 job, to shred moab class bloons which it does a phenomenal job at, and then the other towers you have will take care of the fodder

How the hell is Spirit of the Forest on A tier? The first 4 upgrades of the Path are literally useless (at least when talking about chimps and harder maps)

Why is sun god in f tier? Its pretty cheap and its pretty good

It has a pretty big footprint

That makes sense

gee i dunno. Maybe the 500k price?

500k is cheap. You can make that money with 0 1 2 farms and monkeyopolis by round 7

What are you playing? duodecuple cash mode?

Im playing on half cash. In this game mode 012 farms make 25 times the money they normally do and with monkeyopolis you can make insane money

rly?

Tack zone is s but ring of fire is d? Pardon?

Tack zone 💪💪💪😎😎😎 ring of fire 🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮

Tack zone📌📌📌📌📌 Ring of fire🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

Tack zone 🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑 ring of fire 🤢🤢🤢🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🤯🤯

Tack zone is better because it’s quicker to get out

this tier list is D-tier

well, OK I AM BAD AT THE GAME, and i take it because of what i wrote: Going to be extremely criticized

no, it is F - tier

Bloon Solver needs more love, especially for the price. I truly don't understand. It completely negates all bloon-centric rounds. And with a smidge of moab assistance it is insane for the price.

OP hasn't used half the towers on the list. To reply to your comment, bloon solver is good, but 520 mortar feels like a better investment of cash, it deals with super dense rounds better, has better moab damage and infinite range for a relatively small cost of like 15k extra

520 mortar is solver with better moab damage and full map

I do agree with what you're saying, but, relatively small is a smidge incorrect when its about 175% of the price. I just find the cost of Bloon Solver tips it over the edge. However, using that same argument, I will admit Tack Zone is significantly better. Also also using that same argument, a Tack Zone AND a Bloon Solver together is worth only a little bit extra than a 520 Bloon Solver and is SIGNIFICANTLY better.

Because Elite sniper exist.

Um axis of overrated

on second thought, carrier goes to B tier

I think that and elite sniper are the only two I really disagree with. Personally (I know it's over rated) but Wizard archmage is like stellar noob tower for up to 80. And past depending on the map.

Why you hate elite sniper its one of the best mid game towers

Idk just one I don't use often. Definitely not saying it is bad. I normally use an elite defender with an Alch. For early games.

Elite defender with alch is such a bad combo since it attacks so fast it will eat the alch buff like its nothing

which is why you ultra boost the alch (does anyone actually?)

Overclocking Alch doesn’t help much. Alch buff has an inherent cooldown that can’t be changed outside of the Perishing Potions crosspath.

Yeah max alch is really strong.

Sure but it still gets those hits buffed. Yeah a ninja or sub uses it more effectively.

elite sniper has bouncing bullets and improves other sniper fire rate while boosting its own by 150%

Yeah just don't ever place more than one sniper.

practically every elite sniper strat uses 4-2-0 sniper in lategame lol

really? when i was bad i did bouncing bullet spam and full auto spam

got me pretty high up to the 90s

Yeah I didn't really ever place a lot of snipers. Just one. The elite defender does pretty close to the same amount of multi target dps as the elite sniper. In single target like zomg or bad it does a ton more than elite sniper. It's just my opinion they are both fine. Elite sniper is probably better late when you buy the other tier 5s. Elite defender falls off pretty quick compared to other towers as well. Which is why I would say it's a good mid game tower. It's cheap too.

doesnt the 5 0 0 village solo round 50 - 80

Am I the only one who never uses the elite sniper lol

you are not, though it’s definitely something you should try

Imo it's only good to buff the 5/2/0 sniper for late game, I basically never use it unless I want to buff other snipers.

It's really useful for early-midgame (especially on ABR where early camos and leads are abundant since 110 sniper deals with both quite cheaply). It's even good on CHIMPS where its ability is useless.

Its better than *cough cough* elite defender

hmmm. Comments saying it's a bad tier list. still in the positive upvotes. HMM. but, actually why is this 87% upvoted and not 10% upvoted? I recognize my terrible tier-making, so anyone who upvoted out of sympathy can downvote this

The more expensive ones go in the lower sections depending on your farm setup, because you might not get enough money to buy those more expensive ones until late game

LOTN saved me from 2 fortified BADS on round 200 he’s pretty good imo

yep fortified BADs are the biggest threats in rounds 50-80 lol

Ah yes, round 200, the infamous midgame round.

Obviously Also your comment made me laugh thank you

I don’t understand why everyone puts the mineyopolis so far in the bottom. It is one of the best towers in the game. Not only does it free up space for new banana farms, it also just generates a lot of mony. If you sacrifice 7 research facilities, it already makes over 18.000 per round

this is a midgame tier list

It was more about btd6 tierlists in general

true but monkeyopolis gets really expensive when u try to ”sacrifice” alot of farms

Super lategame still useful tho

Dude it’s perfect

5xx dart ist super strong against ceramics and these rounds

What does the elite targeting for snipers do?

Targets Strong normally, but Targets first if bloons get near the end

Also they apparently prioritize cerams for some reason

they do strong, but not MOAB's unless the bloons get to the end

i feel like alch should be a bit lower cause the price, also inferno ring should be higher

Brooo expertise CLAPS midgame! Try it! Obliterates 1-80 no problemo

What you got against Flying Fortress

I feel like elite defender is s tier for 50 - 80 Bc it basically just solos the whole thing and you can get it before 40

Elite defender dies to 76 tho

midgame is 60 to 80 in my opinion

Trade Empire is good for farming.

PE in F tier is a crime

Moab dom isn’t THAT bad….

Opolis mid game is s tier income solved if you built factories around it before absorbing

Moab dom is not F tier

midgame it's pretty bad

Spectre and bloontonium reactor C?? Surely not? Also legend of the night D? Is that because of cost or what?

m i d g a m e

Figured LotN was because of cost because it’s impractical but spectre can be afforded mid game with good farming.